8:24 there's no temperature differential between the sides.. the captain's side is no hotter than the co-pilot's side.. no evidence of ongoing fire under the skin
@YouCanSeeATC7 ай бұрын
Thanks. I'll pin your comment.
@thedevilinthecircuit14147 ай бұрын
THIS^^^ The crash crew scans the aircraft using an IR camera to detect hot spots on/in the jet.
@thecomedypilot58947 ай бұрын
That’s not what he said?
@LeTangKichiro7 ай бұрын
@@thecomedypilot5894 You can hear him say on freq that their is no temperature difference on the pilot's side or the co-pilot's side. It's right there in the video. That implies that there is no fire. So not sure what you mean?
@ryabow7 ай бұрын
it was probably an electrical fire. if you kill the power supply to an electrical fire, the fire will die out quickly. which i assume is what the QRH would tell them to do, if they didn't do so themselves.
@richarddaugherty85837 ай бұрын
And that, boys and girls, is how it's done! Pilots call Mayday, ATC is right there with vectors, etc. This incident ought to be used as training material. There were almost no wasted words in the exchanges and everyone was on their game, including the ground equipment. These folks made it look easy. It wasn't.
@dougaltolan30177 ай бұрын
@@ts757arsecarbohydrate / hydrocarbon... it's all the same till you barf on a fire.
@clarazegarelli58617 ай бұрын
it was just luck, they took to long. fire could spread so fast, and fill the cockpit with fumes really fast.
@johnjoseph36677 ай бұрын
I never cease to be amazed at how unfailingly polite Canadians are...even in a MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY situation.
@boudibla40117 ай бұрын
@@johnjoseph3667Canadian here. Agreed 1000%. ATC did not know where Ullpe was and she was 'ooooooook... I don't know where Ullpe is, but that fine.' lolololol!!
@RLTtizME7 ай бұрын
All inert observations with no real impact on the outcome. Keep searching for those problems where none exist. 😂
@JamesGJGSUSHI7 ай бұрын
That was the best, most clear emergency call I’ve ever heard.
@GWNorth-db8vn7 ай бұрын
Four Canadian accents, and even the guy driving the truck speaks well. The pilots even knew how to pronounce Toronto.
@matthewjclement7 ай бұрын
Yep, in addition to being a well-managed emergency and return to airport, this must be the most 'Canadian' exchange I've ever heard. Everyone helping everyone, and even a genuinely friendly 'Good morning!' on handover to approach. I know this is a normal courtesy with ATC, but it rarely fees as friendly as this, and during an emergency situation. Bravo to everyone involved.
@GWNorth-db8vn7 ай бұрын
@@matthewjclement - Just south or Pearson is Hwy 401, and nothing pleasant or polite ever happens there.
@loonylovesgood7 ай бұрын
@@GWNorth-db8vnAhahaha, that gave me a good chuckle. 😅
@roymillwood79197 ай бұрын
Very professional all around. Good job pilots and atc 👍
@jamescollier37 ай бұрын
nothing more scary than a fire in a plane.
@YouCanSeeATC7 ай бұрын
I can only imagine how it was
@dubious67187 ай бұрын
I would think that fire in a submarine is scarier.
@elevat1on7 ай бұрын
It isn't, actually. Much easier to seal it off there than in an airplane.@@dubious6718
@Evan-ed7pu7 ай бұрын
@@dubious6718not talking about subs tho, we’re talking about planes.
@Patty-qy8qh7 ай бұрын
@@Evan-ed7puokay so there can't be anything scarier because only planes allowed?
@slipperyslope39127 ай бұрын
See that's good ATC right there. Suggest plane remain close to airport in case anything else arises. So important. And she kept their options open for BOTH runways with her pattern, including a water ditching. Absolutely excellent. When I see these pilots go on long approach legs during an emergency to run checklists I get so nervous. Stockpile altitude and proximity in case the emergency flares up again and forces your hand.
@Belchmaster417 ай бұрын
they run trough the checklists while still in the air
@lyaneris7 ай бұрын
I can assure you, had the fire not gone out as fast, they'd have gone through way less checklists ;)
@jpmasters-aus7 ай бұрын
I liked the way the tower advised they would provide a wind check 2 miles out, knowing they would probably need it. In the cockpit, they were pretty busy, and it was interesting that the acknowledgment was two clicks. I don’t think I have heard that before (but I was aware it is used occasionally).
@lyaneris7 ай бұрын
I've heard it in quite a few videos. (I've also listened to a lot of JFK ground 😅) It's just when ATC doesn't require any response and you don't want to block the frequency, but feel like acknowledging- stuff like wind checks, basic information about waiting times or sequence, etc.
@florianmisof19887 ай бұрын
Interesting, in america I've never really heard that as well, but where I'm from in Europe, that is a very common thing to do.
@loonylovesgood7 ай бұрын
Pearson frequently updates with wind checks. It’s blustery in Toronto, with the lake right there.
@gerrybvr7 ай бұрын
great example of professional at work.
@pk75497 ай бұрын
I had this happen to me. The electrical components embbeded in the windshield will spark when the inner ply has a stress point. Shortly after the inner ply cracks under a given pressure diff. We had this happen in cruise. Certainly gets your attention quick.
@c1d2e7 ай бұрын
Same here, it happened on approach, sparks start coming off the bottom edge of the Captains side windscreen, it looked to be between the layers? Flipped the windshield heat off and it stopped, landed, no drama :).
@pk75497 ай бұрын
@@c1d2e We had it at cruise, QRH directs you to descend then run the pressurization manually. It wasn’t a big deal really because the screen has three layers, and since we were close to destination we just decided to continue.
@MLink9197 ай бұрын
Exactly what happened. Very jarring but got the windshield heat off quickly and all was well.
@lyleparadise27647 ай бұрын
That's about the best handling of an emergency I've heard in a long time. Everybody was on the same page for the entire event. Kudos to ATC, the crew and rescue.
@jonathankleinow20737 ай бұрын
I hadn't thought of the "radar off" request before, but I guess it makes sense so ARFF doesn't get cooked like a Vienna sausage while driving across the nose.
@Hopeless_and_Forlorn7 ай бұрын
Modern aviation weather radar has a peak power pulse of around a hundred watts and is harmless. Many have wind shear detection functions that will turn the radar on automatically for takeoff and approach. Early airborne radar sets, however, had 65 or even 70 kilowatt peak power. You definitely did not want to have them on with people or equipment nearby.
@heuhen7 ай бұрын
@@Hopeless_and_Forlorn the other reason they might have asked for the radar off, is when they are inspecting the aircraft with thermal camera, so they wan't as little heat signature up front when they are looking at the cockpit from the outside
@andyasdf20787 ай бұрын
@@Hopeless_and_Forlorn I worked on brand new King Airs and maintenance always had the aircraft turned away towards an unoccupied area of the apron before testing the weather radar
@theharper17 ай бұрын
@@Hopeless_and_Forlorn I saw a documentary years ago about early airborne radar and technicians getting cancer and other health issues after working on active belly mounted radar of WW2 bombers while the aircraft was on top of a metal pad reflecting the signal at them. They were basically working in a microwave oven.
@jemand84627 ай бұрын
Radar doesn’t cook anything, it’s not microwaves or even radioactive. It’s like a radio station antenna basically.
@gregdrmax7 ай бұрын
One of the 2 windshield heating sensors. Maintenance can swap to the other sensor (5 minute job) but shield will require replacement soon.
@robertATC607 ай бұрын
Fantastic job ATC!! Fantastic job pilots!!
@Belchmaster417 ай бұрын
it was kinda hard to hear the initial call-in after 🛫
@t288msd7 ай бұрын
We went 7 minutes before getting the unique canadian 'check' phraseology. Must be a record! :)
@gregheyheyhey7 ай бұрын
Does "check" have an official ATC meaning, or is it the Canadian controller equivalent of "I gotcha"?
@boudibla40117 ай бұрын
And how about the pilot double mic click to acknowledge last wind check by tower... Roger is my uncle ;)
@brothaman0077 ай бұрын
Gotta love Toronto ATC.
@MikePattison3 ай бұрын
That was so damn professional.
@TUUK2006Ай бұрын
Professional as all hell from all sides.
@georgesheffield15802 ай бұрын
The Toranto team sounds very competant and helpful.
@superbmediacontentcreator2 ай бұрын
Oh how nice these people are...
@daveworley7 ай бұрын
Textbook, all round. Bravo.
@norfindir7023 күн бұрын
i wish you could sumarize the video in the end rather than before.. I like to experience the situation on the video before reading about it.
@TheLoneWolfling7 ай бұрын
I'd be interested in seeing - in general - any other aircraft that were vectored around in response. I know that in some of these the ATC ends up being somewhat frantic juggling other aircraft, but this seldom shows that aspect. (I don't actually know if there were any other aircraft in this case.)
@lyaneris7 ай бұрын
I'd guess that they either stopped departures or put them on a different frequency (the second ATC might very well have been director/final or approach before the situation) In cases where the plane was with dep, it tends to be quieter, since it's a lower stress environment (due to less time pressure)
@instant_mint7 ай бұрын
5:14 Can someone explain what this whining noise may be? It doesn't sound like the typical "bad reception noise", it more like interference from something else?
@briandeschene84247 ай бұрын
Likely somebody transmitting at the same time “stepping” on the first transmission.
@instant_mint7 ай бұрын
@@briandeschene8424 Aha okay 👍
@Daniel-us1ls7 ай бұрын
I didn't know it was possible for North American pilots to use standard phraseology in emergencies. All jokes aside, the situation was handled very well by both controllers and pilots.
@raygale41987 ай бұрын
Maybe Canadian pilots? It's only across a river but different culture completely.
@shajiehussain11307 ай бұрын
@raygale4198 Endeavor Air is Delta Connection so probably American pilots
@mrplowjrezv7 ай бұрын
@@raygale4198Don't let Lake O. hear you talk about her like that.
@andij6057 ай бұрын
There was an AA pilot using mayday recently. Maybe these guys also use mayday cause they're in Canada, not in the USA?
@Mike-oz4cv7 ай бұрын
Afaik “hazardous material” is non-standard phraseology. But at least this time they didn’t say “hazmat”.
@TheButterZone7 ай бұрын
That was a cute name for a waypoint either way LOL
@marcfair3d7 ай бұрын
Man.. how professional! 🤩 Great job from the pilots and all controllers! A bit funny that he said Mayday Mayday Mayday and after that... Ah yeah.. and if you don't mind we'd like to declare an emergency.. 😅 well yeah.. a Mayday call iiiiis an emergency 🙈...
@jamesl74777 ай бұрын
When you’re heart rate is double what it normally is, stress hits you quick. That’s why pilots rely on their training. No harm for being slightly redundant in an otherwise great handling of the situation!
@twentynineteen46877 ай бұрын
I often see Canadians following exact procedure AND being polite about it. Glad this wasn't the exception.
@lyaneris7 ай бұрын
I've heard US ATC ask afterwards if they are declaring an emergency.... I bet he wanted to make sure 😅
@jhaedtler7 ай бұрын
You need to turn up the audio.
@BulanuRoz7 ай бұрын
not a problem coming from him, it's the ATC and radio itself that was quiet
@heuhen7 ай бұрын
@@BulanuRoz yes, but he can turn the volume up in the post production in the video.
@TruthProvider7 ай бұрын
Agreed, the sound needs to be amplified ... otherwise too quiet.
@RLTtizME7 ай бұрын
Crank up your ear trumpet old timer.
@wessutton45607 ай бұрын
A fire on the windshield? Like St. Elmo’s fire?
@ak90795 ай бұрын
Windshield heaters
@MarkRose13377 ай бұрын
Combusting Regional Jet
@srh23017 ай бұрын
Only once asked for souls and remaining fuel. Clear indicator they haven't been over SFO or JFK...
@clarazegarelli58617 ай бұрын
ok please dont hate me (damn ok do.. ) but the reason because everybody is saying.. wow perfect handling of the situation, how professional they were.. it is because the fire extinguish itself and nobody died. In my opinion, they took to long and were to comfortable preparing the aircraft for land. If the fire spread, and you have smoke on the cockpit you have a few minutes before you lose control. Remember a MD11 over the east coast. They have a smoke in the entertainment system. they were very professional, calm and patient, setting up everything for landing. a few minutes from the airport, the smoke was in the cockpit, they couldnt see the instruments. everybody died.
@clarazegarelli58617 ай бұрын
Swissair Flight 111 crash
@clarazegarelli58617 ай бұрын
actually was the ATC the ones that suggested to vector them close to the airport .. great idea.
@entitledblackwoman7 ай бұрын
Thank God for masculine men
@kickedinthecalfbyacow75493 ай бұрын
Masculine men have been crashing planes for 70 years
@flyguille7 ай бұрын
The worst scenario, FIRE IN THE COCKPIT!!!!
@MrPomelo5557 ай бұрын
You mean, FIRE IN THE COCKPIT ?????????!!!!!!!!!
@andrewtaylor9407 ай бұрын
Weirdly, at least this fire was one that sparked up in the pilots field of view. Which meant it was detected and reacted to immediately. But that's still got to be terrifying. Especially for the pilots.
@TheMILVET7 ай бұрын
Prolly a short in the windsheild heat.
@joycedudzinski94157 ай бұрын
Amazing how the pilot had the guts to say... ..MAYDAY.. With others, ATC has to pull teeth to get a reply.
@brianspencer63977 ай бұрын
When it blows up directly in front of your face, you tend to appreciate its seriousness pretty quickly....
@theharper17 ай бұрын
@@brianspencer6397 and a fire in the flight deck is a more immediate threat to getting on the ground safely than a fire in one engine (for example).
@RLTtizME7 ай бұрын
He was a Euro illegal alien.
@TruthProvider7 ай бұрын
Would be real useful if airplanes could put out an automated squawk code with real time data of fuel remaining and souls on board so that ATC wouldn't have to ask over and over again for this info from busy pilots of a troubled aircraft.
@A.J.16567 ай бұрын
It's a bigger problem in the comments section than it is in the air.
@idunnoanymore28707 ай бұрын
U shud patent the idea and make it happen!!!!! Great idea!!!
@bobstephenson43917 ай бұрын
I am a captain for this airline. The fuel state is supposed to be in time, not pounds or gallons, but I would’ve done the same thing though…just look at the number and report it. Let them figure out on the ground how long a 900 can fly with 9000 pounds. LOL.
@dk24287 ай бұрын
Professionals, all people involved.
@nikolasardhbryanmoningkey87437 ай бұрын
4:43 sounds like a fly
@frontcentermusician4 ай бұрын
Lot of flight sim pilots giving there 2 cents worth LOL
@Richard-iu9sf7 ай бұрын
Textbook work by all. Especially calling Mayday.
@j2simpso7 ай бұрын
Didn’t know St Elmo’s fire occurs in Toronto
@pedropaulo79227 ай бұрын
Why should the radar be out for fire trucks to approach?
@markw11237 ай бұрын
Getting too close to the radar transmitter is dangerous for personnel. Sounds like the firefighters were planning to exit the truck and walk around the aircraft.
@coreyballard83597 ай бұрын
Assload of ionizing radiation that would make the testes tingle
@Gibbins5807 ай бұрын
@@coreyballard8359hazardous radiation, yes. Ionizing, no
@WestAirAviation7 ай бұрын
@@coreyballard8359Microwaves aren't ionizing but they can cause burns in intensities emitted by a weather radar.
@oxyoverh7 ай бұрын
This is not the year for aviation…
@andrewj5917 ай бұрын
An American pilot actually declaring a mayday and not using trucker comm.. mind blown.
@GWNorth-db8vn7 ай бұрын
He pronounced "Toronto" properly, too.
@TheOReport19947 ай бұрын
@@GWNorth-db8vn How else are you supposed to pronounce it!? 🤪
@ImpendingJoker7 ай бұрын
Audio is very quiet in this video.
@chadgreen1007 ай бұрын
Excellent communication and procedure, but no Star Wars comments?