Are JFK Tower controllers on specific instructions to be as annoying as possible? Yeah, the pilots weren't saying everything they're supposed to, but why just "hello?" Do they really think that pilots, on regularly expected schedules, are just checking in to say hi? Come on people.
@kaptkewl13 минут бұрын
Typical NY assholes! 35yr airline capt...
@johndonald3566Сағат бұрын
Controllers at JFK need to come down to earth(literally) and remember why they are there.
@Ndub10363 сағат бұрын
Hey ATC standby
@jeluna4 сағат бұрын
The Nippon Cargo really struggled 😢
@pjotrtje0NL5 сағат бұрын
The AIP and NOTAM for JFK do not indicate “when contacting JFK TWR, say JFK TWR <callsign> only” and as such, ATC’s right. However: effing childish as well.
@miguelr17845 сағат бұрын
1) The answer is not Hello, is Go Ahead. That's what the BA was waiting to hear. In Europe in busy airports normally you say your callsign only to keep the frequency available and let the controller organise the queue. Anyways, very unprofessional way to handle the radios by ATC
@oguzhangoktas1305 сағат бұрын
THANKS FOR IT
@MrSamueljcat10 сағат бұрын
What a rude dim creature that person trying to impersonate an ATC. She should be manning the honeycarts.
@mikemicksun646910 сағат бұрын
Sorry but if you’re a approach controller and a plane is turned over to your frequency you know they want to land and their intentions. I understand its New York and its they way people are. Vistited my aunt in New York City may times they are all rough around the edges. The idea should not be adversary but to help one and other. The passengers are more important then playing games.
@KasraKasra-wu3ol11 сағат бұрын
Some NY controller don’t deserve to work in an international environment, it feels like you are at DMV queue
@sebastianfloyd37211 сағат бұрын
A320NEOs are much better for Alaska Airlines and they’re be a good replacement for the 737 max 9s. That’s why 737 MAXs must be retired scrapped and never fly again. Scrap those 737 max 9s and replace them with A320NEOs
@ffrf.org-4514 сағат бұрын
Now you know how Stormy Daniel's felt
@apple5434514 сағат бұрын
I'm going to be honest, this seems like more of a VSA video. You are known for better. You ARE better. please don't stupe.
@pagophilus15 сағат бұрын
The tower was a bit rude, but I'd expect better from British Airways. A DEI hire? She should have responded earlier, shouldn't have taken so much prompting.
@trolleydollystustu2815 сағат бұрын
Why are they so rude?
@justinchung775315 сағат бұрын
Here’s my take: JFK only knows JFK, whereas these pilots fly to several airports worldwide, and not all airports do it the same. Many airports have a final approach controller or director. On that frequency, you only check in with your call sign. However, this is the tower frequency, and you’re supposed to state the approach you’ve been cleared for and for which runway. Even on good days, you’re going to get a little bit of attitude from JFK. Par for the course.
@jeffsmith778917 сағат бұрын
This controller needs to be shown the door. His wife won’t like it to much
@robav8or17 сағат бұрын
Didn’t realize JFK tower controllers were a bunch of unprofessional passive aggressive Karens!
@jaboozie968517 сағат бұрын
Controllers at fault 100%. While here in the states we say the approach it isn’t standard everywhere cut the games and be productive.
@rmp5s18 сағат бұрын
2:55 - Hey!...they flew almost directly over my house!
@alanbiancardi253116 сағат бұрын
NW of our house.
@paulcantrell0145119 сағат бұрын
Snarky ATC should get a little red mark in their folder for crap like this...
@Gomendio20 сағат бұрын
Pass your message is the proper response from any station involved. Saying hello’ it’s just low end middle class suburban us piss poor chatter. Period.
@TheRalf999921 сағат бұрын
Standard operating procedures❤
@WhiskeyGulf7122 сағат бұрын
What you are not hearing is director or approach control are handing off the aircraft to change frequency to tower & check in with call sign only.
@marspp23 сағат бұрын
They should have replied with, “Kennedy Tower, HELLO . Speedbird, which is the callsign for British Airways, wun fife keeelo heavy, two tousand feet on QNH - or altimeter as you call it - 1332, showing 10 nautical miles to run to the threshold of zero fower right. We are anticipating landing on that runway, fully expect you know that too. What would you like us to do next ma’am or sir?”
@SR-bh5jd23 сағат бұрын
For common curtsey I give the approach and distance from FAF.
@mrelpaКүн бұрын
Coordination is THE most basic thing a controller - especially at an airport this large and this important - has to master, what do you expect the traffic calling you to do? Don't you know what the incoming traffic will be doing or don't you see it on your radar screen? I seriously don't understand how American aviation regulations can be this bad, they say the phrase "cleared to land" without any meaning, no coordination whatsoever, unnecessarily huge ego, trading "efficiency" over safety...
@SenseigainzКүн бұрын
1000ft separation below RVSM airspace? Thats a violation in itself.
@PeeBofour418 сағат бұрын
Wrong
@Senseigainz3 сағат бұрын
@ really, im wrong. Care to explain why I am wrong.
@fredfred2363Күн бұрын
Flight plans are all fully submitted for routing. So when an AC checks in, they're already squawking data, ADS-B data also available along with the flight plan- and all this info SHOULD be on screen with the controller. Technically, all they need to say is "hello" with a call sign so the ATC knows that they are on their frequency. Unless it's a grass field controller with just a radio and perhaps flight tracker 24!? If ATC don't know who that blip is on screen they should call the national guard and launch an intercept. ATC being lazy. Come on guys.
@aMegaMaxProductionsКүн бұрын
Main thing wrong here is the FAA is behind the rest of the ICAO world where checking in on tower frequency is usually dictated as callsign only. It’s not 1950s anymore, most towers have a RADAR and know exactly where the arrival is, so the position information is superfluous.
@Omaritheaviator14 сағат бұрын
Well, while that may be true, the need to state your type of approach and distance sometimes comes down to airport layout. If you have an aircraft executing an ILS approach, then anyone needing to depart from the same runway (taking distance into consideration) will have to hold outside of of the scope of the glideslope beam, and needs to be instructed accordingly.
@aMegaMaxProductions14 сағат бұрын
@ that’s on the SMC/TWR to implement not pilots unless it was a CTAF
@robt2724Күн бұрын
What an absolutely pathetic and puerile response by JFK tower. Since when did they think they are the arbiters on aviation RT standards.
@glenn1713Күн бұрын
"Hello" "Go around"
@chaitanyak4455Күн бұрын
It's the ICAO vs FAA difference, outside the states it's normal to check in with the call sign only however it's not worth making a big deal out of nothing with those 2 guys who probably have been flying for maybe the last 11 hours crossing multiple time zones. Afa, Nippon cargo, they did the right thing. 748 and 380 are severely restricted on many taxiways and probably if in doubt it's better to ask than to assume and end up in soup. Good job Nippon cargo crew.
@JD_SoarZКүн бұрын
I checked the charts for JFK and at this moment, there’s nothing restricting those taxiways for B748 aircraft but a NOTAM could have changed that. ATC is usually aware of those restrictions however and he did state that he had a plan but culture and language barriers make that difficult to convey
@chaitanyak445517 сағат бұрын
@JD_SoarZ Indeed, but companies have additional restrictions at a certain airports and are usually more restrictive than notams, I fly for a ME Major and we see it all the time.
@tuhinsengupta3496Күн бұрын
In India and Middle East both we need to say runway and approach type with callsign
@TheFirstConcordeКүн бұрын
Do JFK have an aversion to hiring professional controllers?
@apple5434514 сағат бұрын
NY has an aversion to hiring professional anything.
@mstewie9718Күн бұрын
JFK can drop the attitude anytime they like now. It was Funny with Kennedy Steve 10 years ago, and now its just unprofessional. The FAA needs to get a grip. Flight Safety comes first. Don't like the response by an arriving aircraft from another country, file a report, give them a number, but over the radio? It reeks of unprofessional conduct.
@thenowhere4882Күн бұрын
The real american pastime is annoying the british. Bravo
@davidlawrence3230Күн бұрын
ATC need to go find different jobs.. lose the attitude.
@jcl410Күн бұрын
How many times has a plane been cleared to 4R, then tried landing on 4L? The has to have been some instructions from the ATC supervisors to require complete info...
@ManualFlyingКүн бұрын
That's just the tower being high on their ego. Pilots: Kennedy Tower, hello, Speedbird 15K. <Despite this not being a request, the proper ATC response would be> ATC: Speedbird 15K, Kennedy Tower, hello. Say intention (or Speedbird 15K, Kennedy Tower, Hello, go ahead")
@KuostAКүн бұрын
lmao this is so troll from the tower but for once I actually like what they're doing by teaching pilots a lesson for something they're actually doing wrong by the book.
@TheoneandonlyEETFUKКүн бұрын
Charmin soft pilot.
@TheoneandonlyEETFUKКүн бұрын
is what the controller might be thinking.
@twobins2060Күн бұрын
JFK controllers are experts in rudeness.
@kmccamisКүн бұрын
I usually slag the NY controllers, but good on them to crackdown this foreign bs.
@carlosmachado4160Күн бұрын
The ATC wants to fly the airplane idk how u guys from the US lead with this type of controller
@PetrolHeadBrasilКүн бұрын
The first video already made me mad... the arrogance of most of the controllers at JFK is unbearable... I really HATE flying there...
@UHF43Күн бұрын
It's a miracle these controllers haven't caused an accident yet. So much time wasted being a**holes.
@rizzodefrankКүн бұрын
Wake has caused hull loses it is not something to be taken lightly. Its taught in every written exam for ratings. Ive experienced it myself behind non heavy aircraft.