Your Bladed Spokes are Creaking, Dude

[@beardbewithyou2068]

Thank you! Finding the noise was driving me nuts!

[@RetroMasters1977]

hours of trying to find a video on my bike noise now this video just says it all thanks dude

[@unsaved_]

I do have one of the cheaper DT Swiss Spline wheelsets on my bike and this issue started to show early. Having tried multiple things I eventually spotted the rubbing of the spokes and how, if I moved them as shown in the video, they made the same noise I heard while riding. Glad to have found this confirmation of my suspicion by a professional. Though not the answer I wanted to hear, this sure is the answer I needed.

[@BBInfinite]

If it makes you feel better, this happens to $3k Enve wheels, Zipps, etc. It's interesting that you'll never see this happen on Mavic wheels with bladed spokes because they engineer gaps in the lacing profile so that the spokes never touch even when they cross.

[@simonrajh]

I second this. My DT Swiss CR1600 are doing the same. Fucking bladed spokes. Took me few months to figure it out. Paid nice money for it and in the end I get creaking like I ride a fucking 50 year old bike. Terrible.

[@kristofdb7139]

Yeah same here on my ER1600 wheelset. All was good in summer, until i did one autumn ride in pouring rain. Low and behold, the next time i went out, my spokes creaked when braking. I immediately thought it must be the spokes, because of the nature of the sound. However, it is pretty sad to be confronted with this when buying wheels you thought would last you years.

[@nickmuaythaiandfitness]

My bike is new, it just started so it was so annoying until I found out what it was!! Lol thank you

[@RandyASilva]

Thank you! Newer Zipp 303 FC starting to creak on bladed spokes, especially when getting out of the saddle. Funny thing is my 10 year old Mavic Cosmic SLRs with bladed spokes never creaked like this.

[@BBInfinite]

The bladed spokes do not touch when they cross over one another in Mavic-built wheel sets.

[@VolkanTaninmis]

man you are great! Because of this noise I have changed my hub bearings, hub rod then I found your video. Many thanks!

[@Trashbindance]

You're totally right, the same thing with bladed spokes on my DT Swiss CX-Wheelset...

[@skyepeyton5085]

Thank you!!! Omg it’s been driving me nuts and thought it was a hub.

[@naren2087]

I even experienced it for round spokes as well , got two cycles with round spokes btwin riverside 120

[@BBInfinite]

If they're round the solution is a simple tie and solder. Problem solved, and the wheel will be stiffer.

[@naren2087]

@@BBInfinite Thank you for your remedie😀

[@elcid_1324]

For my DTSwiss folks, I saw another KZbin video last season where they were recommending oiling the blade spokes every few hundred miles. I guess that’s the cost of the 0.25w efficiency gain😂. I can’t recall what the oil was but I do remember thinking that was an odd lubricant to use on the spoke.

[@BBInfinite]

We find that grease stays longer. We simply spread the spokes apart, dab a bit of Motorex in between, and let em go. Wipe off excess. It's about all you can do.

[@SebastianHernandez-rx8gz]

Thank you . Thank you.

[@stuartdryer1352]

Great explanation.

[@shingi_]

aw man.... I had bought some used Mavic wheels with Dura Ace track hubs and bladed spokes just a few months ago! half the reason I bought them was the spokes ☹️ guess I'm going vanilla again lol

[@OviGabriel2439]

So what if the rotund spokes do that sound??

[@DonAndres5]

Can i just tighten the spokes? or that wont do anything?

[@demri123]

Yea same question. This is related to the tension or not??

[@paroxymal7688]

Mine is just 6 month old decathlon mtb started doing these sound , its round spokes. I took a spoke wrench and tighten them , isnt that what you are supposed do ?

[@BBInfinite]

Often, new wheels need to be re-tensioned once they've been ridden some. If you did this in a truing stand and were careful not to pull the wheel out of true, then yes, that's what you are supposed to do.

[@krishnansrinivasan830]

Awesome & Thanks :)

[@Tourdiligaw]

recommend rather than tie or solder idont know how to use solder😢 mine is rounded

[@Azeazezar]

If the problem is the contact area, does it make sense to replace half the spokes? Round on flat has little surface area. Amd you still get half the aero.

[@BBInfinite]

Interesting comment. Has anyone done this?

[@Azeazezar]

@@BBInfinite Not to my knowledge. But i'm not knowledgable in this field.

[@Azeazezar]

@@BBInfinite Alternatively rotate them all 180 degrees. Give them a new surface to reset the proces?

[@BBInfinite]

@@Azeazezar If that's possible, why not, but we can't think of any wheels that would work on. It'd have to be straight pull, no j bends or any other anti-rotation features.

[@Azeazezar]

@@BBInfinite Thats probably why it came to my mind. Currently strugling getting a spoke undone on this straight pull wheel. Its round and has no anti rotation features. Rotating the nipple just rotates the spoke. Gues im gonna have to cut it or put it in a vice.

[@YALLA3758]

The ones that are so loose that making sound or tight ones?

[@BBInfinite]

The spokes are properly tensioned. Bladed spokes creak over time when they are are in contact with one another. Notice how many companies, like Mavic, use bladed spokes but never have this problem because they design the hubs so that the spokes never touch where they cross over one another.

[@aleydrus8067]

Is there anything structurally wrong with the spoke or is it just an annoyance issue?

[@BBInfinite]

Nothing is wrong with the materials. It's simply a result of the application. Bladed spokes that cross with contact will eventually creak at the contact points. It takes awhile, but it's basically inevitable. Changing the offending spokes fixes it.

[@ZonkedPlyz]

is it still safe to use a creaking wheel??

[@BBInfinite]

Depends on why it's creaking. If it just creaking because the bladed spokes overlapping as shown in the video, the wheel is perfectly functional, just annoying.

[@damo5219]

Just installed my new DT swiss wheelset. After a short ride in wet weather...and creak, creak, creak.... 😭😭

[@BBInfinite]

Oh, no!

[@zanguro6200]

Same. Mine is Spline Er 1600. Smooth ride, then after few days tiny clicks progressed to many. Really annoying

[@damo5219]

@@zanguro6200 after 3 months, theyre still there. If the bike is stationary, and you press down on the bike, you can hear the spokes creak. I suspect its the flat bladed spokes rubbing against each other.

[@braniro1524]

same here on dt swiss er 1400 ... driving me CRAZY!!!

[@zonianambient]

Ughhh, I have a set of DTSwiss G1800 wheels, this is the fourth season on them and the creeking is madening and embaressing! Who wants to be "that guy!" I have gone through every bolt on my bike, i'm on my second bottom bracket and this video has to be the reason. It only creeks when I stand on the pedals so all that loading on the rear has to be it. I hope, anyways! Thanks for posting this video.

[@elcid_1324]

Also have DTSwiss, I only get the creak from the front wheel. I assume it’s how the weight is distributed on the TRI bike. What’s odd for me is it only starts after about 60-70 miles into a ride. It’s completely silent when I first start.

[@esshoul]

This is why only straightpull hubs make sense

[@ArdianSutarjan]

just tighten it dude

[@BBInfinite]

If they had been loose we would have. The issue in this video is not due to improper spoke tension.

[@erichvonmanstein6876]

No your not putting tention on the spokes by sitting on it, the hub is supporting your weight by being bolted to the frame fool

[@BBInfinite]

That's like saying a tree is being held up by its branches. I think you are joking, certainly, but for those who may not understand, a wheel is joined to the hub by spokes, and these spokes work by suspending the hub in the wheel. When you get on a bike, your bodyweight pulls down on the spokes that are above the hub.

[@erichvonmanstein6876]

@@BBInfinite what the phuk are you talking about? A tree being held up by it's branches? That makes no sense and is irrelevant to what the topic is about

[@erichvonmanstein6876]

@@BBInfinite and wrong, he said you're "loading the hubs downward" your not because the hub sets on the frame and even if you were right (which you're not) you would be putting pressure not tention🙄

[@erichvonmanstein6876]

@@BBInfinite NO spokes work by "suspending the hub in the wheel, the frame holds the hub and the hub suspends the spokes.

[@erichvonmanstein6876]

@@BBInfinite everything starts from the center hence the name HUB🙄