Your Club's WORST CB Who'd Start For Liverpool

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@nathaniel7744
@nathaniel7744 3 жыл бұрын
Just a reminder lads that the Irish guy said he would eat horse vomit live on camera if mark noble plays a minute of ucl football
@calblack4156
@calblack4156 3 жыл бұрын
Set your calendar
@bruhmoment10
@bruhmoment10 3 жыл бұрын
I bet half a quid, West Ham will never reach the UCL
@bernhardsonn8996
@bernhardsonn8996 3 жыл бұрын
🤮
@rcrow33
@rcrow33 3 жыл бұрын
Noble is retiring anyways
@ShezzasVideos
@ShezzasVideos 3 жыл бұрын
@@bruhmoment10 well if you're going a half a quid you're not really willing to put your money on it
@TawanMomo
@TawanMomo 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone would start at Liverpool at this point, and will most likely get injured in the first 5 minutes
@liltone9614
@liltone9614 3 жыл бұрын
It’s just those two positions like it is cursed
@jonumney537
@jonumney537 3 жыл бұрын
888866uu6uuu u
@je1104
@je1104 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonumney537 weirdo
@-_-2144
@-_-2144 3 жыл бұрын
Pickford would have a field day
@hdr_diamondz
@hdr_diamondz 3 жыл бұрын
Liverpool have a poor training schedule, that's why their defenders are injured.
@ayaankamalkhan2972
@ayaankamalkhan2972 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Alisson's father. Thoughts to his family.
@chrismascarenhas1059
@chrismascarenhas1059 3 жыл бұрын
Also RIP to Ronaldinhos mother. Thoughts to his family.
@asarbrankovic2916
@asarbrankovic2916 3 жыл бұрын
RIP
@MattYeet
@MattYeet 3 жыл бұрын
@@asarbrankovic2916 u steal my pfp
@barry7959
@barry7959 3 жыл бұрын
rip to granny val too, phillip's grandma what a legend
@bradcarling8836
@bradcarling8836 3 жыл бұрын
Ngl looks like a crave for attention
@Cloudy-dr8dg
@Cloudy-dr8dg 3 жыл бұрын
Feel bad for alisson, hes had some shockingly bad games recently, has no defense infront of him, and now his dads been found dead, got to feel bad for the lad
@dylanconquest4843
@dylanconquest4843 3 жыл бұрын
Mari has been class this season and it was holding who Sterling scored the header against 🥱🥱
@shaankyy4492
@shaankyy4492 3 жыл бұрын
Yea I thought he did ok against city. Holding and hector were at fault. Typical Irish winging
@dylanconquest4843
@dylanconquest4843 3 жыл бұрын
@@shaankyy4492 holding was good for the rest of the game aswell imo
@dannyausteen8115
@dannyausteen8115 3 жыл бұрын
irish guy, if klopp had mari, who kept salah quiet when he was at flamengo during the club world cup, he would be top of the league, and that didn't look like mari in the picture he put, that was rob holding
@stevebot2129
@stevebot2129 3 жыл бұрын
@@dannyausteen8115 did u just say that pablo mari would win the league for liverpool
@stevebot2129
@stevebot2129 3 жыл бұрын
@@dannyausteen8115 hahahhahahahahahahahahhahahaha
@aarnavv6677
@aarnavv6677 3 жыл бұрын
Alternate Title: *Nathaniel Phillips is DONE.*
@craiglawrence2169
@craiglawrence2169 3 жыл бұрын
How though? Based on what?
@jedii6x252
@jedii6x252 3 жыл бұрын
nathaniel phillips is our best fit center back
@aarnavv6677
@aarnavv6677 3 жыл бұрын
@@jedii6x252 yes he is but not according to the Irish Guy
@jedii6x252
@jedii6x252 3 жыл бұрын
@@aarnavv6677 i know sometimes i wonder how he survived birth with his brains
@jsdbhssbdbsjsj
@jsdbhssbdbsjsj 3 жыл бұрын
@@jedii6x252 Then why jurgen klopp picks Henderson in front of him as a CB?
@zugie4114
@zugie4114 3 жыл бұрын
I even think Alfie from HITC Sevens could get game time for Liverpool
@K3-MM3
@K3-MM3 3 жыл бұрын
Ahem. We don't talk about him here...
@bri1085
@bri1085 3 жыл бұрын
He'd get injured very quickly so no more content
@lalitthapa101
@lalitthapa101 3 жыл бұрын
@@K3-MM3 fabio Silva plays in wolves.How will he suddenly get game time for Liverpool🤦
@K3-MM3
@K3-MM3 3 жыл бұрын
@@lalitthapa101 Lmao. I never said anything about Fabio Silva or Wolves
@Kezza02
@Kezza02 3 жыл бұрын
@@K3-MM3 lmao what is he chatting about Fabio silva 😂
@surotoreshal4387
@surotoreshal4387 3 жыл бұрын
Even paul mcshane would potentially walk into current liverpool starting xi
@josephikossile5236
@josephikossile5236 3 жыл бұрын
The existence of this video destroys my morale as a Liverpool fan
@brianbates212
@brianbates212 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I just sat back, relaxed, and enjoyed it. There comes a time when you just have to throw your hands up and say some higher power really has it in for your club. All 3 senior CBs out for the year plus the two DMs that can slot in fairly well injured is that time. That said it wouldn't be a huge challenge to get top 4 if the refs and VAR weren't robbing points from them on the regular on top of the injuries...
@RajMGandhi
@RajMGandhi 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianbates212 But top 4 mate...TOP 4! You have to worry a little if we don't get UCL football!
@edssss9384
@edssss9384 3 жыл бұрын
@@RajMGandhi ucl would be a miracle for liverpool this season extremely unfortunate with the injuries
@kkmac7247
@kkmac7247 3 жыл бұрын
@@RajMGandhi They are more likely to win the cl then to get top 4 lol
@brianbates212
@brianbates212 3 жыл бұрын
@@RajMGandhi Nah, I really don't. This season is a bizarre fiasco that is entirely unlikely to repeat between the lack of fans, continuous games every 3/4 days for months, and blatant poor officiating issues across the league. And, of course, the injuries (primarily caused by the aforementioned continuous stream of games every 3/4 days). Enjoy the performances when you can (that Bobby assist!) but at the end of the game go back to real life and don't let it make you crazy...
@ic7saysglazersout176
@ic7saysglazersout176 3 жыл бұрын
Shout out to the guy who recommended this idea I literally remember seeing his comment recommend this lmao
@humkadumka
@humkadumka 3 жыл бұрын
That bastard really did it.
@shahzainalisharif4125
@shahzainalisharif4125 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@thebigquack6945
@thebigquack6945 3 жыл бұрын
As do I good on that dude
@nothanks5220
@nothanks5220 3 жыл бұрын
Same 🤣🤣🤣
@tomgoodwin7234
@tomgoodwin7234 3 жыл бұрын
No one: Irish Guy: “Joel Mateeep”
@jamesmichaels4979
@jamesmichaels4979 3 жыл бұрын
As a Liverpool fan i love the topic of this video. Fantastic! Haha
@imo098765
@imo098765 3 жыл бұрын
The scariest part is Phil Jones would actually be a step-up. sure he will have a clanger every month or 2 but he will be solid for the rest of it
@Ben-zg4vg
@Ben-zg4vg 3 жыл бұрын
Day 3: The worst player from every Premier League winning squad
@ved0697
@ved0697 3 жыл бұрын
I suddenly need to see Phil Jones defending a goal along with Alison
@GD-xk2gr
@GD-xk2gr 3 жыл бұрын
That was Holding who got outjumped by Sterling
@prometheustv6436
@prometheustv6436 3 жыл бұрын
I know a certain French CB playing at Barcelona that would certainly start for Liverpool.
@arkasur2825
@arkasur2825 3 жыл бұрын
Lenglet or Lord Umtiti??
@prometheustv6436
@prometheustv6436 3 жыл бұрын
@@arkasur2825 Lenglet obviously Umtiti has been bad but not as bad as Lenglet
@thebigquack6945
@thebigquack6945 3 жыл бұрын
@@prometheustv6436 after that Sevilla game....umtiti proved to be worse
@gabsnandes7818
@gabsnandes7818 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebigquack6945 somehow i think lenglet is still worse, like I personally think that even a relegation battle on spain is above his level, how the fuck he managed to be a barcelona player is beyond me
@PodcArne
@PodcArne 3 жыл бұрын
Justice for jean claire todibo
@ahmadzahraniAAZ
@ahmadzahraniAAZ 3 жыл бұрын
Is this hitc sevens? Cause I wouldn't have thought he would listen to a comment.
@aryanpatil506
@aryanpatil506 3 жыл бұрын
Paul Mcshane would start for Liverpool
@shurz01
@shurz01 3 жыл бұрын
By the next week, Irish guy and HITC James will also be get into our defense
@leo_woodstock
@leo_woodstock 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the fact that this video is 9:56 and clearly doesnt care about the extra revenue, cuz it can be easily stretched 4 seconds
@humkadumka
@humkadumka 3 жыл бұрын
Irish guy makes a video about worst defender/transfer for each team: Nathan Ake sweats nervously
@arz5530
@arz5530 3 жыл бұрын
Video idea: make the best team made up of only players born from a certain month e.g. January XI. This could either be present players or past and present players, including either a current or past and present manager. You could make this a mini series and maybe even put them in a little cup competition at the end and predict which team would come out on top
@khizarplaysandwins1307
@khizarplaysandwins1307 3 жыл бұрын
I'm betting klopps failed clone is going to be in defense next lol. He'll be amazing since He'll be MANAGING the defense😅🤣😂
@mohamedjaballa6811
@mohamedjaballa6811 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea will see if kloop can get the funds for it
@khizarplaysandwins1307
@khizarplaysandwins1307 3 жыл бұрын
@@mohamedjaballa6811 yep
@yaseensalam750
@yaseensalam750 3 жыл бұрын
I an a Liverpool fan this is hilarious as well as painful to watch
@xrnclan8457
@xrnclan8457 3 жыл бұрын
Bednarack has been rlly good this season (not counting games after 9-0)
@amnapalijo2988
@amnapalijo2988 3 жыл бұрын
Mari wasn't out jumped by sterling, it was holding. As you can see at 1:24.
@prometheustv6436
@prometheustv6436 3 жыл бұрын
I would have picked Holding instead of Mari.
@amnapalijo2988
@amnapalijo2988 3 жыл бұрын
@@prometheustv6436 yeah, I'm an arsenal fan and I agree. I've seen both play and mari is miles ahead of holding.
@xz_darwish
@xz_darwish 3 жыл бұрын
Soyuncu is nowhere near bad
@mr.venom_5400
@mr.venom_5400 3 жыл бұрын
Well he’s not better than evans and fofana is he?
@swbrl2843
@swbrl2843 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.venom_5400 evans sucks. every single game he seems to make a bad mistake.
@Mark_Master1
@Mark_Master1 3 жыл бұрын
@@swbrl2843 no
@swbrl2843
@swbrl2843 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mark_Master1 the pundits and youtubers telling you he's a good defender doesn't make it so
@swbrl2843
@swbrl2843 3 жыл бұрын
@Ben Lane buddy you slow?
@englenn806
@englenn806 3 жыл бұрын
Joe Rodon? He isn’t even that bad unlike Davinson Sanchez and Eric Dier and Ben Davies
@rcrow33
@rcrow33 3 жыл бұрын
Rodon is better than Sanchez easily
@morgantodd8445
@morgantodd8445 3 жыл бұрын
@@rcrow33 yeah definitely
@thebigquack6945
@thebigquack6945 3 жыл бұрын
0:39 imagine that, I don’t blame him for turning it down. Tho I’d defo take a shot at a scholarship
@Systematic_Age_PES
@Systematic_Age_PES 3 жыл бұрын
It's strange that Kilman could be eligible for my country (UA)
@will81566
@will81566 3 жыл бұрын
video idea: worst current player who would start at a diffrent era at there club, current premier league clubs
@vinnyjefferson2085
@vinnyjefferson2085 3 жыл бұрын
Think something like that has been done before
@will81566
@will81566 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinnyjefferson2085 yep but it was the other way round so worst past player who would currently start
@davidlunda9660
@davidlunda9660 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the guy who suggested this yesterday
@bouaklinemahdi
@bouaklinemahdi 3 жыл бұрын
Saw this comment about a week ago on a previous video, Irish guy is moving fast
@accountuser5588
@accountuser5588 3 жыл бұрын
Titus Bramble if we’re talking about players from the past 😂
@filipposzoukas9782
@filipposzoukas9782 3 жыл бұрын
In the title it say's WORST cb of every club. Why is soyoncui there
@ChamMSB
@ChamMSB 3 жыл бұрын
Evans and Fofana both better. Morgan not good enough
@Fifa-di4wk
@Fifa-di4wk 3 жыл бұрын
It means worst defender that is still good Enough not just the worst because soyuncu is Great
@notoriousmigz2427
@notoriousmigz2427 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChamMSB I think Morgan would make Liverpool's team
@b_wright05
@b_wright05 3 жыл бұрын
@@notoriousmigz2427 no
@notoriousmigz2427
@notoriousmigz2427 3 жыл бұрын
@@b_wright05 over Ben Davies and ozcan kaback? I think so
@r.e.dbeefs6855
@r.e.dbeefs6855 3 жыл бұрын
Remember when Irish guy said that dias would be Manchester city's lindelof😂
@mthabisintuli6481
@mthabisintuli6481 3 жыл бұрын
Lol well he was wrong 😂
@harbhajansinghania
@harbhajansinghania 3 жыл бұрын
Which video ?
@t54x30
@t54x30 3 жыл бұрын
We're loving it
@theburnleylad3532
@theburnleylad3532 3 жыл бұрын
Love you’re vids Irish guy but Tarkowski is by far Burnley’s best defender. Apart from a few teams he could start for practically any team in the prem. I get he plays for Burnley which isn’t notoriously known worldwide but he is class and definitely deserves more recognition.
@marcusbabb5427
@marcusbabb5427 3 жыл бұрын
No one would be talking about the defence if we actually scored a goal once in a while.
@alexbyrne3263
@alexbyrne3263 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't rate hause at all last year but seeing him this season, he's improved massively
@tactics4devils218
@tactics4devils218 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing Jones in here made my day
@danielnoah7719
@danielnoah7719 3 жыл бұрын
Lord Jones is the best defender in the list ☑️ 🔥🤣
@richardsarcheryreviews
@richardsarcheryreviews 3 жыл бұрын
As a wolves fan kilman has been a solid player for us this season there are other defenders that are worse at thd moment like dendonker he's have a shocking season
@slavyan734
@slavyan734 3 жыл бұрын
dude Pablo Mari is actually been doing well when he starts except that city game
@BeastBoy69631
@BeastBoy69631 3 жыл бұрын
He was decent that city game didn't really make mistakes
@anthonybarnes706
@anthonybarnes706 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha I saw someone suggested this video idea in the last video 😂
@thekinghing
@thekinghing 3 жыл бұрын
No one: Absolutely no one: Irish Guy: prrrwwwoopppbably
@ryanphilander7636
@ryanphilander7636 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the Jack grealish tribute week
@92siobhanc
@92siobhanc 3 жыл бұрын
Max Kilman is class tbf, he's played a good amount of games this season and probably one of our most consistent CBs. He'll be Wolves starting LCB before long.
@jamesmcalinden8718
@jamesmcalinden8718 3 жыл бұрын
Captain America would walk off the pitch w a pulled hamstring after 15 minutes playing for liverpool in defence
@CrimsonRiots
@CrimsonRiots 3 жыл бұрын
Video idea: your BEST player who’s on YOUR bench
@damelillardfan
@damelillardfan 3 жыл бұрын
this guy did it in one take with his new channel's video
@DaRealND19
@DaRealND19 3 жыл бұрын
Its fun hearing Irish guy read Nigerian names
@fawzansayem9987
@fawzansayem9987 3 жыл бұрын
As a Liverpool fan, I would be more than glad to have the man, the myth, the legend Phil Jones in our squad. But it is quite sad he can fit.
@stevemorison3787
@stevemorison3787 3 жыл бұрын
Adarabioyo’s full name Uvwevweonyethevweugwemubwemossas: “I know that feel bro”
@asb4538
@asb4538 3 жыл бұрын
Pablo Mari has been brilliant this season and wasn’t at fault for the Sterling goal
@tobyradwell1522
@tobyradwell1522 3 жыл бұрын
Ik right it was holding that was out jumped
@asb4538
@asb4538 3 жыл бұрын
@@tobyradwell1522 yeah it was Holding and Heccy who were at fault. Tbh it’s quite clear that he didn’t watch the game, so why comment on it if you never saw it
@ATS1031
@ATS1031 3 жыл бұрын
mari wasnt at fault for sterlings goal it was holding and bellarin mari was pretty good nd has been good this season
@RobbieWatson-ud2dz
@RobbieWatson-ud2dz 3 жыл бұрын
Phil Jones walks in to any team itw 🐐🐐
@uszkera
@uszkera 3 жыл бұрын
They should have signed Ezequiel Garay on a deal to the end of the season he is 34 but still a class defender would definitely help
@kevbarnes8459
@kevbarnes8459 3 жыл бұрын
I laughed at the Sheffield one west brom going down as well
@Chelsea1991FC
@Chelsea1991FC 3 жыл бұрын
2 Chelsea players and former players on the list I like it 😀 you should do one for Attacking options for Chelsea 😀
@jegvethvordubor8348
@jegvethvordubor8348 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh i would say that our biggest problem is attack so i suggest a video of the worst attacker from every club that would start for liverpool.
@jeremiahnsube372
@jeremiahnsube372 3 жыл бұрын
Video idea: Your worst number 9 who was still more clinical than Chelsea strikers 😐
@manyatruegamer6351
@manyatruegamer6351 3 жыл бұрын
no one
@prometheustv6436
@prometheustv6436 3 жыл бұрын
Man United - Anthony Martial
@racingpro2224
@racingpro2224 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry I don't know what strickers are but I like your idea
@jeremiahnsube372
@jeremiahnsube372 3 жыл бұрын
@@racingpro2224 I meant strikers😓
@jahawa.
@jahawa. 3 жыл бұрын
Even Bolton wanderers defence would probably make it into liverpool
@canarycatchup
@canarycatchup 3 жыл бұрын
Davies is injured + you forgot to mention Joe Gomez
@michaelplaysbass
@michaelplaysbass 3 жыл бұрын
OMG this was so funny. All I could do was laugh (while crying inside)
@Tvhurdghit4fhi6rr
@Tvhurdghit4fhi6rr 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine showing this video to a liverpool fan in July
@ben1766
@ben1766 3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys I know this is off topic but I want to have a Football Q&A on my channel so please ask me some questions on this comment
@ben1766
@ben1766 3 жыл бұрын
Please ask
@dawsonansley469
@dawsonansley469 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on the greatest Irishmen ever from each prem club
@anneoconnor1085
@anneoconnor1085 3 жыл бұрын
This is the weirdest concept but so funny
@mcalpha3
@mcalpha3 3 жыл бұрын
None of their current defenders are great now but in maybe a year or so they'll get better (Davies I believe still has potential).
@ushmiaster
@ushmiaster 3 жыл бұрын
"being ignored, more than a chunky alter boy" 😂😂😂😂
@akshitdasgupta7079
@akshitdasgupta7079 3 жыл бұрын
he did it. i saw some guy asking for this vid for like 3 weeks or something
@joshuaobayan2752
@joshuaobayan2752 3 жыл бұрын
props to irish guy for pronouncing Adarabioyo's full name.
@ripdippy6964
@ripdippy6964 3 жыл бұрын
Now this is a video concept
@kurt5079
@kurt5079 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Kabak "piggyback" was more Allison charging needlessly into the back of Ozan like a lunatic when there was no need to come out. Giving away a goal. Can't really blame Kabak for that one.
@ayo4048
@ayo4048 3 жыл бұрын
I find it funny how you were calling for them to sign Coady but saying Kilman would barely squeeze in despite Liverpool playing a back 4... when we've played a back 4 this season Coady has easily been our worst centre back whereas Kilman is yet to put a foot wrong
@g2cobra
@g2cobra 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Liverpool fan and i wish you would have posted this before the window shut. Maybe someone important would have seen it and we could have signed one of this lot
@shahidwillie967
@shahidwillie967 3 жыл бұрын
kilman is a good shout
@slippingawaytv7499
@slippingawaytv7499 3 жыл бұрын
Please scarf make a video on every manager who dodged a bullet (player/s)
@a.arnold1413
@a.arnold1413 3 жыл бұрын
I almost feel bad for them. Almost
@202Chris
@202Chris 3 жыл бұрын
😭😭
@ic7saysglazersout176
@ic7saysglazersout176 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂👌👌
@challengeaccepted4065
@challengeaccepted4065 3 жыл бұрын
The reason cuyuncu is a good defender is that every time someone looks at him they are gonna have nightmares so they dont wanna displease him
@lauandrew273
@lauandrew273 3 жыл бұрын
finally some unbiased respect for Phil Jones, his career will always be seen as a bit of a joke, a meme, bet's be real he did have good potential in him. Let's not forget he played a massive role in Man Utd's 1213 title-winning season, even seen as a potential united captain.
@Shamblez001
@Shamblez001 3 жыл бұрын
Woooooow the shade
@setokaiba6249
@setokaiba6249 3 жыл бұрын
Starting 11 squad of the 21st century, with 7 subs and a manager
@jsmarty1
@jsmarty1 3 жыл бұрын
That title has me cackling as a Liverpool fan. It’s mental how we’ve been ruined at the back
@moreblack
@moreblack 3 жыл бұрын
Liverpool's current defense leaking goals left right and centre Keane: that's their job
@beatsbyadmiralz5915
@beatsbyadmiralz5915 3 жыл бұрын
As a Liverpool fan that regularly watches the Bundesliga highlights witch his dad, I was against Liverpool signing Kabak from the start. He has been that terrible for the past year
@Bentleyspeed81
@Bentleyspeed81 3 жыл бұрын
It would be really interesting who puck for spurs! My bet is eric dier or rodon
@jptyrannosaurus29gaming73
@jptyrannosaurus29gaming73 3 жыл бұрын
Day 1: 7 Best players who managers ruined chicharito joe hart etc
@1personiam
@1personiam 3 жыл бұрын
Not only was Ben Davies a Preston CB but he got hurt right away too
@JKTritt
@JKTritt 3 жыл бұрын
As a Liverpool fan - I’m feeling that I could throw a dart and hit someone that could start at CB for the team right now. But then ........... they’d be starting off on the injured list. So, there you go.
@benpeters-brown5317
@benpeters-brown5317 3 жыл бұрын
Reminder of Irish guys chelsea vs althletico prediction
@aryaman7907
@aryaman7907 3 жыл бұрын
He forgot Joe gomez but ok
@dannyausteen8115
@dannyausteen8115 3 жыл бұрын
irish guy calls pablo mari a bad defender, but he is actually great, arsenal signed him because of what he did in the club world cup.
@tactlesstactician
@tactlesstactician 3 жыл бұрын
You're not wrong... literally in december I was literally thinking about how much Jurgen Klopp would pay for to have Phil Jones in our team.
@ajmckee8112
@ajmckee8112 3 жыл бұрын
Just a reminder you didn’t mention Joe Gomez being injured as well😂😂
@charliefiore5371
@charliefiore5371 3 жыл бұрын
kortney hause looked class before his injury
@golazo_editz7812
@golazo_editz7812 3 жыл бұрын
Well...sterling goal wasn't mari's fault....it was holding and bellerins fault
@DKYEGON
@DKYEGON 3 жыл бұрын
How can you not like this channel.🤣🤣🤣
@forestaregoingdown7717
@forestaregoingdown7717 3 жыл бұрын
Mari - agree Hause - disagree Burn - agree Tarkowski - agree Chritenson - agree Cahil - agree Holgate - agree Tosin - agree Llorente - disagree Soyuncu - agree Ake _ agree Jones - disagree Clark - agree Apaudu - disagree Bendareck - agree Rodon - disagree Oshea - disagree Dawson - agree Kilman - disagree
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