Your First Electronic Drumset - 6 Hidden Costs

[@danpriddey4406]

I managed to get a free throne and cable with my drum set by telling them another store offered me the same deal. If you are buying a new kit ALWAYS see if you can get discounts or free accessories.

[@65Drums]

You just gotta ask them at the store :)

[@timbarden2782]

Very practical video for anyone venturing into electronic drums for the first time. Nicely done!

[@65Drums]

Thanks Tim!

[@pantboy72]

Bought my son his first set of e-drums this week, took a fair amount of research to find what you just explained in 5 minutes, got a bundle deal in the end which came with everything needed, but the 'extras' are not of the highest quality and will probably need replacing sooner rather than later.

[@reubenk7331]

Great points! I was actually surprised when I was initially looking at the TD-07DMK, because it looked like it came with the double kick pedal, and it wasn't grayed out at all. Then reading the fine print, down below ALL of the pictures with it in them, I learned it wasn't included. I knew most of the other stuff wasn't included, but the kit pictures made it seem like it came with it. While I was watching some of your other videos, I realized the TD-17 kit didn't come with a USB cable. I haven't had a "printer style" USB cable in so long, so I actually had to buy one.

[@jezusmylord]

6:00 im using sennheiser momentum on ear with my td17. I started using them because i once bought them for cheap money, pluged them into my drumset with the mindset "that will do for now i hope, i will upgrade when i will have the money" and they sound really good with the drumset and i stayed with them.

[@xdanulicious4275]

jezusmylord i use the sennheiser 280s on my td17kvx and i love them

[@jezusmylord]

@@xdanulicious4275 I bet they block sounds better than mine tho.

[@DouglasLippi]

Possibly a drum key. I've never bought a new edrum set, so don't know for sure. I think Rolands usually come with them. Possibly cases if you're gonna do gigs. Maybe a floor mat if you don't have carpet at your home and/or venue.

[@65Drums]

I agree with the Drum Rug thing, helps your drumset stay put on hardwood floors or concrete

[@bobmizen1]

Roland does come with a key which you actually need to assemble your kit, it also fits The tensioners etc. As fo free drumsticks don’t expect anything special. My free pair actually had completely different tips to each other. Very informative video. Regards, Bob M

[@DrummerGrrrl]

I went to a new(er) Guitar Center in Seattle and got to try out a Roc 'n' Soc throne. To be honest, I thought the rave reviews were a lot of hype...until I sat my fat butt down on that drum throne. OMG!!!! Yeah, it's not overinflated hype. Roc 'n' Soc thrones RULE. Worth every penny.

[@jeanphilippelandry8295]

2years with mine.

[@lostie1]

My Alesis turbo mesh arrived yesterday came with a throne, nylon tip sticks and a pair of headphones

[@rudy1570]

Third Electronic drumset already. But thanks for always thinking ahead and helping others. very cool Justin.

[@carlossuarez9807]

I love this channel super helpful I’m not a new drummer but I appreciate what your doing for the new drummers keep up the great work 💪👍

[@The.GB.Drumming]

I play yamaha dd75. You can record great covers. The pads are on the elevations, so they reflect the real drums much more than the alesis pads. Especially if you tilt the set properly on a good snare drum stand. Foot controllers are good for home use. You can play nice things on them, but I don't think they are comfortable at a longer concert. then it is worth buying KU100 and H440. I record drum covers for home use and the set really has a lot of possibilities in my opinion - it takes up little space, which is very nice when playing in events. There is no need to carry heavy boxes. However, I would prefer them to throw in the Ku100 and Hh40 pedals and increase the price. The kit itself is great.

[@TheChnecht]

totally agree with the drum throne. i used to sit on a shitty small kitchen stool which felt like it would cave in any second and since i got my quite decent (100 bucks) drum throne i don't just have a better posture, i also feel way more comfortable with actually using my whole body to play the drums.

[@billherbert4961]

My kit hasn't arrived yet so I cannot say if it's the value I hope it is. But for all the gear that's MIA mentioned in this great posting, I hope it's as good as I'm hoping. Thomann Musichaus in Germany has house lines made in China that are good. I love my Harley Benton guitar. My drum kit bundle, in USD, is about $1100 landed to me in NZ. On it's way is my new Millenium MPS- 750x. It has bluetooth (possibly just to phone and not to headphones...I'll find out). I ordered an upgraded throne. Studio phones are SuperLux HD0681B which seem to be rated pretty well for budget studio phones and good for big ears like mine...I'll soon see. House brand maple sticks with nylon heads x3 sets. House brand 200watt amp/combo PA. I threw in their pocket mixer and a cable for a bass guitar I was given so the amp can do double duty. The kit is all mesh heads and multiple triggers on each drum or cymbal. Comes with bass drum kick pedal. I am sure it's by far the best value kit bundle going, but I shall see how the quality is. I will repost if I remember after it's set up. BTW, I am not a drummer. Perhaps my son will be. Meanwhile I hope learning basics on drums will improve my guitar playing. My chronic tennis elbow problem in both arms will likely be a dealbreaker for me as a drummer.

[@nickantoniades2328]

Very good information. Thank you. Here in the uk there is a drum set available called the Fame DD one XT Simon Phillips professional E drum set. Would roughly cost about $900 whereby you get all mesh drums which consist of a 12” snare, 4 x 10” toms , plus 12” mesh kick drum, including pedal. Last but not least, high hat with a proper mechanical stand plus 2 crash cymbals and a ride. Admittedly the module is not in the class of Roland but the 8 available drum kits were sampled by Philips himself plus room to input more sounds and create user kits. I’ve only been playing about a year and you can call me naive but that sounds a hell of a lot bang for your buck!. So I’m very very tempted to purchase this as my first upgrade from my finger killing rubber padded Carlsboro! I have looked at the Roland KV27 but at over $3000 without high hat stand and kick pedal etc seems rather excessive for a mere grade 3 player like me.... However perhaps the author of this video or anyone else in the drumming world know would like to comment on this kit because we have a saying in the UK that if something seems too good to be true then it probably is. Over to you guys.

[@johndef5075]

Great advice. For a total beginner the package deals would be a good idea. Also go Bucks!

[@100DollarHeadache]

It started with a deal on a vintage Simmons SDS9 module and pads. I figured I'd play it with my drum machine and stash the pads under my bed or something. But the allure of the iconic hexagonal pads was too much. I spent more just on the stands and am still buying pieces for it, so I can learn to play it live.

[@amitray6614]

Thanks much for making this video and sharing your thoughts. Very useful tips for a newbee like me.

[@menchlid3945]

I use shure se215 with my Yamaha dtx 502 module and it sounds sick. It handles the punch and the low end of the drums incredibly.

[@menchlid3945]

But they were 100 bucks

[@DrummerGrrrl]

Guitar Center has a GREAT used equipment inventory. AND, you can get a warranty on used stuff! Happy Holidays, Justin.

[@johndef5075]

Bass drum patch is huge bang for buck. Especially if using Roland heads.

[@adventurellama7444]

Glad I still have my rock and sock and snare stand. Roland really makes me mad when they nickel and dime you after you drop $2,000.00 on a td17. Love my kit, not the price but it is what it is.

[@crazy8sdrums]

The reason why Roland and others do not include pedals and hihat stands with kits is because pedals and hihat stands are a personal preference item. I don't want to pay $200 more for an e-kit for a pedal I don't want to play. Virtually everything on your list are personal preference items. All of your points are good for newbies to know though.

[@65Drums]

You are completely right, but you're coming at this from the perspective of a seasoned drummer. This video is for beginners, beginners by definition do not have personal preferences, and they don't necessarily know what is, and isn't included in a drumset. They just see a advertisement for a drumet online that has literally everything. But then the drumset gets to the house and it's literally unplayable. To a beginner, this is surprising.

[@jimmycroce9902]

Thank You very much. Great timing for me, as I will be buying soon. Great help!!

[@tamasweigel4445]

Yes, Alesis Crimson comes with snare stand, but it's very tiny. Great video 👏

[@65Drums]

Thanks! I thought it came with the snare stand but wasn't 100% sure. Thanks for the confirmation

[@HereIsmarcus]

My bog standard yamaha kick pedal is absolutely fine.

[@65Drums]

Yamaha hardware is always solid

[@jezusmylord]

I understand not including hihat stand, kick drum pedal and throne on the a bit more expensive drum sets. They arent targeted towards rookie players who dont care what hardware they using but for a bit more experienced players and hardware choices are really subiective and its better for people to chose what they like and not overpay for something they wont want to use.

[@jazzmattg]

Great vid. Exactly all the stuff needed!

[@tobiasrobinson220]

Informative my dear Watsonville!😅

[@aburak621]

Do you plan on doing a Millenium MPS-850 review? I think it's Thomann's in house brand, that's why they are so cheap. I would like to hear your opinion about them.

[@ZaxDrumsGolfandMore]

Lots of good info for people who are looking at getting an E-kit!!

[@65Drums]

Thanks dude!

[@stefanmandakovic5688]

Dude! a demo of you playing live with Edrums! Wanna check that sound

[@mattwaters6987]

Nice review/info. Thx.👍😃

[@wayneanderson2866]

Hey Justin thanks for the info! I have a question- have you reviewed best electronic kits to gig with? Might not be something a lot of people do but I’d be interested to get your input. I’m not a drummer (I’m guitar/vocals) but I’d like to buy an electronic set to have of my own that can be used to gig with(for a consistent electronic live sound)- I’m already interested in something like an Alesis strike pad to add to a kit, etc but wondered about your over all thoughts on gigging with an electronic set. Thanks!

[@zaxet5932]

Hi! Im thinking of buying a edrum set, and i was wondering if the "Alesis Crimson 2" is a good set for a beginner? Iv tried to look info about it online, but i couldn't find anything about it, so i wanted to ask here.

[@jonahpaz.]

6:30 Please upload a video of you playing live!

[@65Drums]

I have several, check out the 65 Drumcovers channel

[@bo-bx5hn]

I bought an alesis command over the weekend. Wasn't sure if I made the right choice compared to a Roland kit. Didn't realize Roland cheaps out on literally essential components. That's downright embarrassing. I was annoyed enough when I didn't get a drum throne!

[@habanerat]

Drums are freak,n expensive! I should have taken up the recorder! Still have one from junior high. : )

[@65Drums]

I feel that! haha!

[@jbro2767]

Good luck gettin' laid with a recorder!

[@johnpruden9270]

If you want GOOD drum sounds, you'll need software like Steven Slate Drums, Superior Drummer, etc. That's probably a minimum of $150. But WAIT, there's more! In order to hear those sounds, you'll need a way to get the midi data from your drum module into your PC, so you'll want to get an Audio Interface (to minimize latency). Maybe you can get a used one for $50, but it's easy to drop $200. And also, you'll want a Digital Audio Workstation (DAW) so you can run your software and record. Fortunately, we have Reaper, which can basically be used for free, but also has a $60 price tag. Very cheap compared to the alternatives. In my opinion, these are worth every penny, as stock module sounds mostly suck, and software samples sound incredible and make playing SO much more fun! One more thing to consider, is that if/when you decide to upgrade your kit with additional pads or cymbals, they usually don't come with any mounting hardware or cables. That can run an extra $10-$50 depending on your needs. A few other accessories- Stick bag, Drink holder :) Rug or super strong velco/adhesive to keep your pedals in place, Cable ties.....

[@zaxzaxx4561]

Fair enough, but do beginners really need to go down the software route with the additional complications it brings? They'll be preoccupied for a while just hitting the right things in the right order! Worth adding that you don't need anything as elaborate as a DAW if you just need a VST host - SAVIHost is all you need. It's tiny and free and makes any VST behave like a standalone. Highly recommended.

[@johnpruden9270]

@@zaxzaxx4561 Thanks for the tip on SAVIhost, that's good to know. You make a fair point.... drum software is NOT required. I got started with an Alesis Nitro kit for $300, a cheap PA, and a drum throne. Barely over $400 for all, and that got me by for about a year. During that time, I didn't even KNOW about drum software... no clue whatsoever. And when a friend told me about it, I kind of blew it off.... but only because I didn't know what I was missing! :) But since the end of that first year, I've been making upgrades every few months, and yes.... it burns a hole in your pocket after awhile. But drum software IS money well spent, as good samples inspire active learning and playing. However... you WILL need a way to HEAR that improved quality, via a quality amp or headphones.... soooo... down the rabbit hole we go. :)

[@y.n.45]

Thanks for this video, really informative!!

[@aarjavjogani]

To those on extremely tight budget, ATH M20X headphones work pretty well, and I got them for like $50

[@Wagoo]

I would also suggest Superlux HD-668B if you are on a budget for headphones.. I have expensive planar-magnetic headphones, but have about 3-4 pairs of those kicking around just for convenience.. they sound nearly as good as Bayer DT-770s

[@phox.2234]

I don't understand what the aux cable is for, could you explain it to me?

[@65Drums]

It's the only way to be able to play to music from your phone

[@phox.2234]

@@65Drums ohhh thank you man!

[@jedkikai6637]

Justine whats the best adhesive for rubber cymbals? Because my roland cy5 adhesive already gone the rubber is no longer glued to the plastic...thanks

[@65Drums]

I don't know unfortunately, but I have heard that they make glue for rubber products at home improvement stores

[@dangermartin69]

Contact cement.

[@kashresurrected]

Thanks for this man

[@Mr_Claps]

would a bass amp work for drums?

[@HereIsmarcus]

I recently started using a little bluetooth receiver plugged into the “aux in” socket on my kit so I can play along to music on my pc without the pain of cables. 25 bucks well spent.

[@timf7413]

It seems like a lot of this would apply to someone buying any sort of drum kit for the first time, whether electronic or acoustic.

[@fiepelo6559]

Very good Video, thats what I Need ^^ What Do you think about the millenium mps-450? Is it a good beginner e-drum Set? (sorry for my Englisch, im from Germany)

[@ZaxDrumsGolfandMore]

Ich habe es oft gesehen aber ich kenne keine wer es nutzt oder spielt aber, ich denke für der Preis ist es gut!! Wenn ich nicht falsch bin ist es eine Mesh Kit. Manchmal ist Kopfhöre, eine Sitz, und Sticks dabei!!

[@fiepelo6559]

@@ZaxDrumsGolfandMore Ja is nen mesh kit sind aber nur diese 2,20 euro sticks von millenium dabei ...

[@ZaxDrumsGolfandMore]

@@fiepelo6559 Denn kauft dir ein Paar gute Sticks dann ist alles in Ordnung. Und wenn du die Tone die aus der Module kommt nicht magst kannst du immer noch einfach an der PC anschließen und Progamme nutzen um bessere Tone zu haben!!

[@fiepelo6559]

@@ZaxDrumsGolfandMore Geht das mit drummica?

[@ZaxDrumsGolfandMore]

@@fiepelo6559 Wenn der Module Midi Ports haben oder eine USB Schnittstelle hat dann ja. Ist dass eine Programme DAW oder VST? Dann muss man schaue was für eine Systeme es braucht 32 bit oder 64 bit.

[@phox.2234]

Nice Zildjian sweater! Where did you get it?

[@65Drums]

I bought it at a drum store in Columbus

[@phox.2234]

@@65Drums thanks, you're one of the nicest and coolest drums KZbinr there is, since you're always replying and answering questions, most importantly giving a lot of attention to the Fan base! Thank you 65 Drums (I'm sorry I always forget your name)

[@65Drums]

Thanks so much dude! :)

[@phox.2234]

@@65Drums you're welcome right back at ya!

[@Innovate-pq9ci]

for AUX input, you can buy a bluetooth receiver for $10 and add bluetooth capability to your module...

[@VibeSounds]

On my Alexis DM6, my kick drum has been acting weird lately. When I play my kick drum, it has not made a sound unless I move the cable almost at the end then it works but sometimes it makes a sound but most of the time it does multiple triggers from one hit. Do you know why this is happening?

[@zaxzaxx4561]

Loose wire in one of the cable jack plugs, probably, with the multiple triggers being caused by an intermittent connection. Try using a different/spare jack cable on the pad; if that solves the problem, throw the dud one away NOW before it gets mixed up with your working ones (been there)! If that's not it, clean both jack plugs and sockets with contact cleaner. If that's still not it, you've either got a problem with the piezo or the module, which will be a proper repair job - but hopefully it's just the cable.

[@VibeSounds]

@@zaxzaxx4561 Thxs man!

[@JohnDRobinsonelectronicdrums]

essential information, Justin!

[@andrewstradley8365]

good list!

[@jhglaze]

I’ve been looking at a 300.00 electronic drum set not planning on taking it on the road. I want to learn well enough to accompany myself on other instruments. I got the impression that the 300.00 drum kit is a waste of my money. I’d like him to explain the cons of buying a 300. 00 kit. My first guitar was an acoustic held together by glue that didn’t work. I now play on a strat I paid 1100.00 for it. Which is about what I would pay for the kind of drum kit he recommends. Just saying, Just asking

[@JoshNotJohn0]

"if you have to buy a snare stand, try to go used" me, who already has a snare stand from my acoustic kit in my garage: now THIS is pod racing

[@jezusmylord]

2:50 i have that throne, mapex something. Never go that route people, its killing my butt.

[@johndef5075]

My Mapex throne works just fine.

[@adilakif0061]

Is beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO 80 Ohm okay for TD17KVX?

[@TrapCityProd]

I have two comments on sound for your drum kit. First, if you're on a budget it's pretty common to see powered PA speakers in the 10", 12", & 15" range on sale online at places like Musician's Friend or Guitar Center (and sometimes even Amazon) for a reasonable price. And if you catch them on MF's Stupid Deal of the Day, the savings can be incredible enough that you can fit a pair into your budget (50% off or more). I've put together several dirt cheap live sound and karaoke systems for a couple of smaller local clubs this way, to good effect (they were fraternal organizations that feature live bands and karaoke weekly, BTW, the VFW and the Eagles). Secondly, I think it's misleading to advise people to avoid these amps for their electronic drum kits, particularly if they are on a budget as it's worth trying out before spending the cash. If they have an older amp then yeah, they may want to get a powered PA speaker or a drum amp rather than trying to make it work. But a more recent combo amp with a MP3 input (and designed for music playback) might work out just fine for them in terms of the range the amp is capable of handling, they just need to make sure to use the clean channel and turn off any other effects in the chain. But the simple fact is these days most bass and guitar combo amps intended for practice have jacks for a MP3 player so that you can jam with your own backing tracks or other music, and so actually have a much wider frequency response to accommodate the MP3 playback and are more PA systems than instrument amps! I know that older equipment tended to be purpose built to service the type of instrument it was designed for, and suspect that pro level equipment is still that way somewhat to. But since the late '80s, a lot of the equipment is better designed with new innovations in speaker technology and components, now you can hear not just the base frequency of notes being played but several harmonics, making for a richer and fuller sound. Even some of the crappiest equipment of today would have been 'to die for' 30 or 40 years ago, rivaling that time period's studio grade (same with photography technology, BTW)!

[@DaPobreProductions]

I learned a lot from this dude!

[@65Drums]

Thanks!

[@DaPobreProductions]

I bought a millenium MPS-850 a month ago.... It's a budget friendly e-drum.... I haven't checked the modules capabilities but it works good on studio drummer VST... You could check it out in my channel if you want... 😁 Thanks again.... I really learned a lot from you

[@karanpratapsingh8245]

I am from India and want to buy a e drums. But in india I don't have a lot of options. Can you please send me the link where I can purchase from of us site and shipped it without the country costum duty. Please and which is a better and a durable brand Alessia or ronald. Please help me out couse it's me fist drums to buy. Please help me out. I need your help.

[@raps55]

Some people also need drumstick racks

[@donaldschaefer296]

Thanks!!

[@65Drums]

Glad you liked it!

[@donaldschaefer296]

@@65Drums looking forward to my first kit!!😁

[@jezusmylord]

I wonder when Roland td 60 will be out.

[@65Drums]

Roland says it will be awhile yet

[@jezusmylord]

@@65Drums I think they will try to ride (hehe) the digital ride and snare train as long as they can, and as long as other companies wont try to make stuff like this, they wont bother to upgrade flagship.

[@noelito2020]

thosent como with hi hat stand...because there roland 😂😂

[@blaisedrums]

''They don't come with a stand because they're roland''. XD ffs

[@eightupsf]

You look like you could be Mike Patton's son.

[@surferdjnj]

It's surprising that the EDrum market or websites don't allow you to build exactly what you want, piece by piece. Like building a PC. I guess that has something to do with the manufacturer supply chain in terms of availability, but adding thew exact stick, bass pedal, hi hat and snare stands doesn't seem to be rocket science in terms of website design. Baffling and frustrating.

[@brandoncrimmins6296]

I think actually a lot of these things are fore-gone because most people that are going to spend even S1,500 on an e-kit have been playing for quite a while and the already have a pedal, hihat stand and throne they already like. And as far as an amp... I would assume at least 80% of people buying an e-kit want it to practice more quietly than an acoustic. And EVERYONE has some kind of headphones. My $10 skull candy headphones sound ok. Obviously my AKG Studio phones are far superior. But any headphones will work. Plus NO other electric instruments come with an amp.

[@65Drums]

While that's true for seasoned drummers, many people buy a TD17 kit to learn how to play. And unfortunately that means they don't have piles of drum hardware lying around.

[@brandoncrimmins6296]

@@65Drums I agree that people buying for the first time won't have these things. I was lucky because my dad was a fairly successful local drummer when I was starting out so even though we were pretty broke. He did have a decent kit and a basement for me to make as much noise in as I could. But I think the majority of people will buy an Alesis nitro or surge kit to start on at 1/5th the cost of any Roland or Yamaha set. And therefore the higher price lower end kits are still aimed at the guy or gal or someone "on the fence" that has at least got a cheap acoustic set that they can source their pedal, hihat and throne from. But it's a great video Justin. I love all your videos and used a lot of them to get back into an e-kit about a year ago.

[@felldir]

@@brandoncrimmins6296 I just bought a Roland TD-17 KVX + all the stuff needed to play a couple of months ago and I have never played drums before. I've always wanted to play drums and now that I had a place to play them I wanted to buy a decent set I wouldn't have to upgrade right away.

[@brandoncrimmins6296]

@@felldir That's great! What I was getting at is most people these days don't care at all about quality. And care only about price. So kudos to you for paying the extra money and buying a quality product.

[@FarzyLoko]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@DriFD3S]

Something very significant you didn't mention is that every V-Drum kit comes AS-IS, and if you want more triggers, you have to buy that PLUS the mounting hardware. The Roland TD-50 is a pathetic drum set out of the box.

[@jclevine9266]

2:44 last name

[@the_rustydoornob1164]

for anyone who has his earbuds how is the sound protection cuz I wanna wear them to school to block out jackasses

[@menchlid3945]

I have shure se215 noise cancelling

[@CanadianTexaninLiguria]

Neil Peart played with headphones more than once.....

[@cubeincubes]

IF YOU ASK FOR STICKS THEY WILL USUALLY GIVE THEM FREE WITH THE SET. I GOT 2 PAIR

[@elbolegoya]

Bluetooth receiver adapters are cheap...

[@65Drums]

Yup

[@poejr]

nice to know

[@michaelquinn8498]

No difference to buying an acoustic kit. No cymbals no stool. No sticks. If you’re a drummer you are already aware. The beater will wear through a remo head too everything wears out eventually.

[@Innovate-pq9ci]

also get a pair of sticks :)

[@Isaac_bainesy]

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