Your First Engine Job - Honing For Crosshatch And Choosing The Right Stones For Your Rings

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The cylinder walls in our 4.0 Jeep engine are straight and clean enough to keep them standard bore, but they still need to be honed in preparation for the new pistons and rings
Here's a rundown on the different ring types and the best grit stones to use on them.
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@UncleTonysGarage
@UncleTonysGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Yup! At 14.40 I installed the hone with one of the stones flipped. It happens. Lesson here is don't allow yourself to be distracted (By doing things like making video....) while you should be focusing on your work.
@erikstrawn3885
@erikstrawn3885 2 жыл бұрын
I had to rewind to make sure I saw that right, and then I couldn't stop twitching.
@lilmike2710
@lilmike2710 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody's perfect Tony. We're all the same. Human, fallible and flawed.
@chuckaustin3832
@chuckaustin3832 2 жыл бұрын
I saw that! thanks Could that mess anything up?
@aussiebloke609
@aussiebloke609 2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking you really dodged a bullet there - because for some reason, it didn't seem to mess up the bore finish as far as the camera shows. Sometimes, it's better to be lucky than good - but it's always best to be both. Cheers, Tony. 👍
@CharlesVanNoland
@CharlesVanNoland 2 жыл бұрын
At least you caught it! Imagine uploading that and having everyone tell you your mistake. They probably will anyway. :P I doubt that aluminum hone (I imagine it's aluminum) was able to overpowered the steel sleeves in there. If anything you just ground the hone down a bit with your crosshatch, lol.
@jodaddysdodgegarage3533
@jodaddysdodgegarage3533 11 ай бұрын
Scratches through the dark spots to determine “low spot” or “rust discoloration”-that by itself makes this video valuable. Nice. 😎
@CharlesVanNoland
@CharlesVanNoland 2 жыл бұрын
I remember in the mid-90s when my dad rebuilt the 3-cyl on his Geo Metro that he'd been commuting in. I don't remember how many miles it had on it but he made it a point to move crap out of the garage and make room to back that thing in there, and I watched as he took it all down and honed it out and got it running again. Then he sold it. That was the first time I saw an engine get honed, as an 8-9yo kid. EDIT: I also remember one time he picked up the back of that car with just his hands, maybe 2-3 years before the engine rebuild, and I was amazed! My dad was Superman! RIP dad, I wish your two granddaughters could've known you the way I do.
@WestcoastBattleRap
@WestcoastBattleRap Жыл бұрын
Rip bro
@saintjhon4294
@saintjhon4294 10 ай бұрын
I feel you there I wish my dad got to meet my sons
@mr.hanger
@mr.hanger Жыл бұрын
I've assembled multiple ( about 80 or so) SB and BB Chevys. Honing can make or break a rebuild. This is about the most simple and straightforward explanation of technique and goal for the desired end result I've seen on the "tube". It's probably pretty hard to get an accurate image of what you're looking for on camera, but if you're a newbie this is an excellent video to get you where you need to be. There's a thousand ways to do it wrong. Trust me. P.S. my grandad always used kerosene as lube. Don't know why, but he said it works better on larger bore engines such as tractors I trust that because Grandpa told me so. I just know the man could keep anything running. Ain't too bad at it myself. Still got his Ford Jubilee and use it about 8 months out of the year for various reasons. Thanks for the lesson, Tony!
@captainsergeant
@captainsergeant 2 жыл бұрын
I rebuilt the 4.0 in my 1991 XJ just shy of three years ago. Got a complete engine off of Craigslist out of a 1998 for 50.00 to rebuild. Supposedly it just needed a new head gasket, HA! Tore it apart and piston #3 had a sunroof. The cylinder was scuffed, but I only had to take it 30 over. I went with sealed power hypereutectic pistons, a Cloyes timing set and melling cam and lifters. Ordered a 10 under crank from Rock Auto for way less than what it would have cost to have it ground. For the rockers you cannot beat Scorpion roller adjustable units. I also spent the extra 250.00 and had the rotating assembly balanced. I did the assembly myself, and its been a great running engine. The only issue I had was a couple of the pipe plugs in the head had not been tightened correctly at the machine shop and were weeping coolant. Simple fix to diagnose and repair.
@keith697
@keith697 Ай бұрын
I know this video is a year old but it never gets old to watch Uncle Tony do his thing!!! Keep up the educational videos!!!!!
@whysoserious7014
@whysoserious7014 Ай бұрын
I agree, rebuilt a few myself and know most of it but still enjoy UTG. It's like sitting through a refresher course each time and possibly pick up on something I don't know or new information. I pass on informative videos to my son that is in neck deep with two project cars.
@shoominati23
@shoominati23 2 жыл бұрын
The video{s} that Lake Speed JR did about advanced thin rings and honing techniques is really so insightful. We've really come a long way since the old days of the gas station mechanic dingleberry deglaze and new ring job. The bore surface finish could be worth up to 50hp or more as it relates to ring seal. In the old days everyone thought it was the camshaft that made all the power, and then the gasflow concept came in and we devoted more attention to cylinder heads and porting, now there are so many aspects of the engine that can make and break power that we really have to look at things in a holistic way and not lose sight of how things work in the grand scheme.
@hydeparkist
@hydeparkist Жыл бұрын
Having an holistic view on things in general is so rare, but important these days.
@furyfantoo
@furyfantoo Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Piston rings are the greatest friction source in an engine. Reducing friction, or increasing cylinder sealing at the same friction, is free HP and efficiency. Well, not free - sometimes it costs a lot of money for such precision.
@anteneupitra
@anteneupitra 7 ай бұрын
NICE BOAT ENGINE
@rogermoeller7350
@rogermoeller7350 Жыл бұрын
I used to work at a GM engine plant and can assure you there were no torque plates used in boring or honing cylinders.
@sfcd4757
@sfcd4757 Жыл бұрын
I have learned more watching 2 of these videos today than any others in my 46 years on this earth. Simple, clear and easy to understand.
@Grumpy-sy7wr
@Grumpy-sy7wr 2 жыл бұрын
Always used cast rings in everything I've built, and finished off with 120 stones. Worked for me. I used kerosene, very slightly oilier than gas, and doesn't evaporate as quickly. All past tense now, my days are behind me. Yet another great instalment in the series Tony. Great work as usual. 👌👍
@georgegouvas27
@georgegouvas27 Жыл бұрын
i like water because it is easier to flush out, kero has a slight problem with hanging around, my opinion
@Sabe53
@Sabe53 11 ай бұрын
I use cast rings on the iffy bores, not perfect but not that bad. 300 grit and brake em in like I'm gonna run it. Run it up pretty hard and back all the way off throttle. do that a few times then just drive it. Never had a problem with rings setting.
@ANTHONYSANTIAGODJFTLM
@ANTHONYSANTIAGODJFTLM 3 ай бұрын
Crazy how I got to this video from just looking up how to paint engine videos.😅 Boy am i glad i ran into that journey cuz these videos are what i was really after 👏
@lordphullautosear
@lordphullautosear 2 жыл бұрын
So true! Back when I was having a '71 340 block remachined, I noticed a signficantly finer finish on the bores than I was used to seeing. The machinist explained to me that, since we were going with Moly rings, a finer finish was required for it all to work well together. Bore finish is one of those important details that can make or break a build...
@stephensaasen8589
@stephensaasen8589 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning that a freshly honed engine with cast rings will rotate with some resistance when assembled. It's been 30 years since I had a fresh rebuilt short block old school V8, but one thing I remember was there being a fair amount of resistance if I rotated the crank assembly. On some of these recent videos that people have put out there have indicated the engine should rotate easily. Kinda thought that wasn't quite right from what I remember back in the day. But I know now that's not right if I hone an old school engine and install cast rings it'll need to feel tight. Thanks for the tips.
@michaelmichaelson8452
@michaelmichaelson8452 2 жыл бұрын
Tony we are roughly the same age took different paths in life but as I watch your videos I am reminded of my youth and all the engine building tech we had back then kids today need your channel if they are going make it in to our old school garage home hot rodding builds. Keep up the teaching its great!
@burneddrz
@burneddrz 2 жыл бұрын
Ole "Flipped Stone" Tony! Keep at it Tony. You remind me alot of my old man. Love your content. It's like a good meal at a greasy spoon.
@kramnull8962
@kramnull8962 2 жыл бұрын
The rings will adapt to the thread pattern and screw right into place...
@TheDan0131
@TheDan0131 2 жыл бұрын
Love you Tony. Thank you for sharing all of your knowledge with us when you don't have to. You're getting me through my rebuild as we speak 🙂 Screw anyone who gives you crap about the 14:40 thing - that moment does not define you. You clearly know your shit. I will continue watching and have already subscribed.
@charlestok
@charlestok 2 жыл бұрын
Tony these videos have been great. Even if this is a little basic tech-wise. You still drop those little magic tidbits of wisdom in every video. Keeps me coming back. That and the hone booboo....I was clenched right up. Lol.
@deankay4434
@deankay4434 Жыл бұрын
My Flex Stone hone, frequently called "Diggel-Berry" was use with solvent. A line of tape is used to mark the entire depth, so the cylinder sleeve bottoms and main caps are not hit. I still have a Sterret cylinder bore gauge but also their 8" length of feeler blades that would measure taper and out of round from 0.0006"-0.0015" on a ring and paper thin! DK, Omaha.
@waynecera4422
@waynecera4422 2 жыл бұрын
the ring pack is the source of most of the friction in an older style engine. .Getting the rings friendly with the bore is the most important thing in a engine. The first 20 minutes of its life is the most important part..
@moss8448
@moss8448 2 жыл бұрын
great post UTG can remember a time when you'd get an engine back they never explainded WHAT they did they would just say, use a certain type of earl er oil
@dongeorge4037
@dongeorge4037 2 жыл бұрын
Oh Unk, as you were assembling the hone, my first thought was "double check that the stones are the grit the package says". Wish I hadn't learned to think that way.
@ChrisSantini
@ChrisSantini Жыл бұрын
so much great information in this video, Thank you!! As someone just embarking on their DiY mechanic journey, this was extremely useful.
@honda350racer6
@honda350racer6 2 жыл бұрын
I will follow these instructions and the other motor building tips to get the 305 boat motor I got apart to running shape.
@captainnemo5379
@captainnemo5379 2 ай бұрын
I'm rebuilding my first engine and just finished the cylinder hone. I was doubting the finished cylinder thinking I just destroyed my engine until I watched this video. Thanks for the content.
@enriquemendoza8650
@enriquemendoza8650 Жыл бұрын
I love this channel.....always straight forward. I also appreciate your personal opinions and insight. Absolutely great tee shirts.
@Portuguese-linguica
@Portuguese-linguica 2 жыл бұрын
First time I did a Honda engine ( F22A1 ) . I for the love of leave it to beaver couldn't figure out why the rings would go bad so quickly. Only engines I had rebuilt before that was all pre 1975 . Man that was a expensive learning curve.
@timmiller260
@timmiller260 2 жыл бұрын
My 40.jeep motor was warp head block was little bit so i sanded it with a slab of grannet whit sandpaper sprayed glued and it showed me what i was seeing whit filler gages and cleaned up top of block
@spankyham9607
@spankyham9607 2 жыл бұрын
Old school drills like this are nice because a lot had a stop for the trigger speed. This drill looks heavy. Definitely getting a work out!
@MikeBrown-ii3pt
@MikeBrown-ii3pt 2 жыл бұрын
Old school? Corded drills are still sold every day lol! One BIG advantage that they have over cordless is run time...unless the power goes out!
@maikelnait1051
@maikelnait1051 2 жыл бұрын
A 6 Ah battery will last forever with this kind of light application though.
@WestcoastBattleRap
@WestcoastBattleRap Жыл бұрын
@@maikelnait1051fax
@creativerecycling
@creativerecycling Жыл бұрын
Cast iron, the perfect material for lots of stuff. I’ve never had a torque-plate. Honed many engines, not necessary to get every bit of glaze out. They will run well!
@vanhap
@vanhap Жыл бұрын
I sure love and appreciate honest and applicable help for 99% of people here🎯 Since my question is paint prep related ill ask on another one of your videos
@brokentoolgarage
@brokentoolgarage 2 жыл бұрын
Good job! I have had the "new" hotrod builders say that if the engine is hard to turn over, it is not built right.
@edc6333
@edc6333 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Uncle Tony, at about 14:47 the one stone was flipped backwards, play on slow motion you can see it when inserted into the bore.
@chriskelley2249
@chriskelley2249 2 жыл бұрын
I seen it
@gsteele2612
@gsteele2612 2 жыл бұрын
Was gonna' say the exact same thing, I was yelling at my screen for Tony to stop! Lol, I was shocked when he said he was happy with the hone on that cylinder, lol "Tony!! Nooooo!"
@thomasthompson2899
@thomasthompson2899 2 жыл бұрын
That'll give the cylinder wall patina!
@michaelgarrow3239
@michaelgarrow3239 2 жыл бұрын
They go a certain way? 😳
@CharlesVanNoland
@CharlesVanNoland 2 жыл бұрын
He pinned a comment about it now. I caught it too. He says "I can do this" and then didn't do it. I doubt the aluminum stone holder on the hone could cut, let alone wear down, the steel cylinder sleeve. It'll be fine.
@dougshukers4658
@dougshukers4658 Жыл бұрын
Good looking cross hatch! Going old school brings back memories
@bullbutter9699
@bullbutter9699 2 жыл бұрын
Ashamed to admit I've never honed any engine I've rebuilt ,1000 grit sand paper to remove varnish and send it. only three engines though and all turned out good. All Newish stuff 2000's up
@irieman442
@irieman442 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing the kids how we did it back in the day. However, my local machine shop in NC is very good. I don't play this game anymore. I talk with them about my engine goals and piston ring and cam package. They do the Magnaflux, line bore, hone, balancing (most important), and bottom end assembly. It's not that I can't do it, but they have an incredible hot tank and all the new machinery to make it right. In reality, what they charge is nothing compared to the work you get. I don't know how they do it for what they charge. Maybe I am just lucky because of my area. For 2 or 3 hundred bucks to get a fully machined and assembled long block... I'm your huckleberry.
@ImAfraidBruce
@ImAfraidBruce 2 жыл бұрын
At that price I'd love the name of that machine shop. Worth the 3-4 hour drive into NC if they're good as you say.
@irieman442
@irieman442 2 жыл бұрын
@@ImAfraidBruce In the Charlotte, Greensboro, Raleigh area they are everywhere. The key is to be open about your project and pay cash. There are a ton of engine guys down here that can rip out a street engine in a couple of days, especially if you bring them all the parts.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, if you need it done right! If I'm gonna have it bored, the machine shop does all of it, including the top end. I believe this helps them, too. I'll bring the parts if they want but when they provide parts they get some mark-up so I ask which way they prefer to go.
@gatesj777
@gatesj777 2 жыл бұрын
The little bit of Evercraft stuff I've bought has all been great, surprisingly well for a house brand.
@bradleyyounger8499
@bradleyyounger8499 Ай бұрын
The first 15 to 20 minutes after a fresh start on a rebuild makes you pucker. Run it up to 2k to break in the new cam and cross your fingers as it sputters and smokes. Have never wiped a cam but have heard horror stories. From what i hear it is more common nowadays with cheap camshaft heat treatments.
@anthonylavallee4362
@anthonylavallee4362 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding! All my questions were answered! Where have you seen that before!
@jonezy6056
@jonezy6056 4 ай бұрын
The amount of microscopic details involved in ICE makes it feel like a miracle every time it starts up
@ct1762
@ct1762 3 ай бұрын
and yet extremely reliable. if you understand how they work, you wouldnt get that feeling. as a mechanic, i certainly dont. all you are doing is sealing a tube really.
@volkov956
@volkov956 9 күн бұрын
Thank you for the info i'm on my second engine rebuild this time i actually need to hone and im having hard time finding actuall good info or proper stones
@eddie_8317
@eddie_8317 2 жыл бұрын
14:45 😣 hopefully it didn't scratch it up too bad. Honestly it looked ok but I did say "oh no" when I saw that.
@pkuudsk9927
@pkuudsk9927 Жыл бұрын
LOL 8 months later and only you and 1 other person caught that slip up at 14:44. The soft steel the shoe plates are made of won't have done anything. I wanted to show this to some kids who are learning, and it was a great video of how to and what not to do LOL
@GeordyLad67
@GeordyLad67 Жыл бұрын
Tony! I can’t believe yiu put one of the hone stones back to front!
@672egalaxie6
@672egalaxie6 2 жыл бұрын
This is certainly an appropriate video for Valentine's Day. ;)
@texasmopar5557
@texasmopar5557 2 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail of this guy is priceless. Sketchy old man.
@MrMorrisonAF
@MrMorrisonAF Жыл бұрын
The guys a legend in my book
@fabiochavez6732
@fabiochavez6732 Жыл бұрын
On 14:49 one of the fins was inserted backwards, with the stone facing the center of the tool instead of the cylinder bore wall. That probably had scraped the wall heavily.
@ercost60
@ercost60 Жыл бұрын
2:27 Very interesting, I'll be starting up my Corvair engine soon with new cast iron rings. Will watch for the fireworks!
@CodyShell
@CodyShell 2 ай бұрын
just me mentally preparing myself for my first engine rebuild im doing next year. 3.5 V6 for my isuzu trooper!
@jonjones-v5d
@jonjones-v5d Ай бұрын
Good technique by the crosshatch pattern!
@ruifaias8258
@ruifaias8258 11 ай бұрын
Thanks man. Learned a lot in so few minutes. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
@ssauto9357
@ssauto9357 Жыл бұрын
Great video! What do you use to lubricate the cylinder while honing?
@E-Motive
@E-Motive Жыл бұрын
Gasoline
@MikeBrown-ii3pt
@MikeBrown-ii3pt 2 жыл бұрын
I'm fortunate to have 2 local, independent auto parts stores that actually stock various grits of Lisle stones for my ancient Lisle cylinder hone. They're not expensive either. On the other hand, any time I take a block to a machine shop, it's definitely getting bored and, I always take the rings (still in the sealed box) that I've chosen to the shop along with the block. That way, if there's any questions about bore finish, the machine shop can contact the manufacturer to make sure what the requirements are.
@sebastianbangheri6311
@sebastianbangheri6311 Жыл бұрын
Very good video your the Boss Tony! Did the same on my 351 and it’s worked perfectly.
@jimbo8617
@jimbo8617 Жыл бұрын
Great vids as usual, just got done doing a 1974 Ford 351Windsor 0.030 over ,bearings .10 under just a quick cleaned up and cross hatched all cylinders with medium grit.Worked out great.I used medium grit, now imma thinking redoing with the coarser grit just to get them cross hatches ALITTLE coarser,Advisable or not would you think.
@darylarthur4305
@darylarthur4305 2 жыл бұрын
That's for extra cross hatch. Old man's trick
@TheAv0lution
@TheAv0lution 3 ай бұрын
Can you explain
@rescuedandrestoredgarage
@rescuedandrestoredgarage 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, brother. Very good information about doing a good job on this stuff. Thank you, man.
@rustyengineer5060
@rustyengineer5060 Жыл бұрын
This is an awesome series of videos. I have a 1998 Jeep 4.0 L to rebuild as a daily driver. So many other videos are focussed on the high performance aspects of rebuilding. Tony does a great job reviewing the fundamentals and practical choices needed for an everyday rebuild! Thanks Tony!! How do you determine if the cam shaft is reusable? Is it based solely on examining the lifters?
@AtZero138
@AtZero138 2 жыл бұрын
And from Under the Bridge they come... Hahaha Whatever... We watch, we learn, we live the true Daily driver Classic Cars and trucks.. We are UTG @∅
@brettmcintyre4956
@brettmcintyre4956 2 жыл бұрын
I said "oh crap" at 14:47 when you put a flipped stone in the bore and went to town! Looks like none for the wear tho.
@copperaudio9664
@copperaudio9664 Жыл бұрын
In 'n out speed :) I counted 1 one thousand. 2 one thousand. 3 one thousand. You got rhythm Tony!
@edge2sword186
@edge2sword186 2 жыл бұрын
I like a Sunnin or Ammco Adjustable Hone as opposed to a regular Glaze Breaker .
@cyrus987987
@cyrus987987 2 жыл бұрын
First engine I ever did was a model T. Was so tight we had to tow it behind a truck for an hour just to get it to turn over, and it got hotter than heck once we got it going. Almost 2 decades later now I know why.
@thewholls7176
@thewholls7176 2 жыл бұрын
Good on ya uncle Tony I saw a video here in Melbourne for a performance engine builder and I know your channel as for the DIYer but just as a point of interest he uses this gauge that is about an inch wide and 5 inches long and once you finish honing, you put the gauge along the cylinder wall. It throws light into the crosshatch and gives measurements as to the depth of the scratch how many scratches they are, and the angle and they keep re-honing until they get the numbers they need for the application very interesting.
@44hawk28
@44hawk28 2 ай бұрын
The third time you put those stones in there you had one of them backwards. But it wasn't going to cause damage because the soft metal will not damage the interior of that cylinder but the other two stones won't be exactly concentric
@12plowman
@12plowman Жыл бұрын
I got the confidence to use the stone hone after i seen you do it wrong and it be fine
@wearegame777
@wearegame777 2 жыл бұрын
Uncle T, Have you ever tried kerosene for honing? It seems like it would be a great mix of cleaning and lubrication.
@chrissanders2562
@chrissanders2562 2 жыл бұрын
I ised kerosene to flush a gummed up 302 before. Worked better than Diesel. I also tried filling it to the top of the valve cover with gasoline once and fired it up. Lucky i didn't have a problem. Also water. Kerosene worked good.
@kramnull8962
@kramnull8962 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, Dad used to use a small bucket of it to dip the hones in. It has a lubricating attribute as well as a flushing action of the stones.
@dadalebreton184
@dadalebreton184 2 жыл бұрын
I learned again something important cause i was sure the honning had to be shinny and like the newer rings type. Almost like a baby bum touch with a little brush almost glazed look. I will be more attentive when i do my next engine. Probably my 76 360-6 Winibago engine with 85 miles on it. If i keep the same rings after a quick clean up, il will know what rock to use according to the rings application. If i keep or change from wear over the mesured gap. Thanks Uncle Tony. Nice content again.
@DerringtonLatour
@DerringtonLatour Жыл бұрын
When he said your trying to do the work of a machine here i instantly thought of surfs up "let the wave do the work not the board" "you cant fight these big waves Co" "you gotta go with the grain" 😂
@wagsman9999
@wagsman9999 Жыл бұрын
Always wanted to build up an engine. A lot to know.
@erics3101
@erics3101 3 ай бұрын
Love this episode this has boggled my mind but how do we determine the bore because have HIPO 289 Shelby blocks that I need to sell but how do I let people know the condition/bore?🙃
@jerrybunting4529
@jerrybunting4529 6 ай бұрын
Hello Tony, I'm thinking of putting an older engine into a newer model truck or car. The part I'm not quite sure of, is what I need to do to keep the old and new running running properly. Like getting rid of the computer, and being able to run all of the electrics in the new truck and every wire to run the old engine. I'm sorry it's not about this video, but I know it's a easy question for you
@briholt100
@briholt100 Жыл бұрын
when you say keep it wet. are using just water during the actual hone? What's the liquid. Cheers, and thanks for the education
@martinw9425
@martinw9425 Ай бұрын
gazoline or other oil like wd40.
@toejam503
@toejam503 2 жыл бұрын
Quite a workout! Never used a torque plate, thought they were only used on race engines. If a guy is uncomfortable using gas as a honing lube, what do you recommend?
@aussiebloke609
@aussiebloke609 2 жыл бұрын
WD40 is probably the most readily available. It's mostly to flush out the grit and bits of cylinder wall that come off, so the stones stay clean and leave a good finish.
@sometimesleela5947
@sometimesleela5947 2 жыл бұрын
Kerosene or diesel work well and give you a little lubrication as well.
@sailincat2822
@sailincat2822 2 жыл бұрын
Wherever Uncle Tony uses gasoline as a shop chemical (not as engine fuel), I would suggest mineral spirits (lubricant/solvent), or acetone (better solvent, but more flammable). The other suggestions of WD40, kerosene, or diesel fuel are good too. There aren't many of Uncle Tony's shop practices I disagree with, but splashing gas around like water is one of them.
@lb9gta307
@lb9gta307 2 жыл бұрын
I've only seen torque plates use on a bore machine, not for just honing.
@robertallen6848
@robertallen6848 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Tony for your time awesome brother
@patmays7344
@patmays7344 Ай бұрын
Wow. That’s a big cylinder barrel, what Cc is that? The honing left rough enough to slightly wear the rings into a Perfect fit. That’s the historical method.
@Marandal
@Marandal Жыл бұрын
Tony thank you for making these videos!
@kimschultz7105
@kimschultz7105 Жыл бұрын
Mate when honing what lubricant are you using?
@17stevedrew
@17stevedrew 11 ай бұрын
I want to hone standard bore in my 46 ford v8. Do I need to use a ridge reamer or just hone? Thanks Tony! Your vides have been huge for me.
@kevinjtoner
@kevinjtoner 2 жыл бұрын
Great series!!! Love this!!!……. Thank you Tony!!! 👍🔧
@rodneybyrd9516
@rodneybyrd9516 2 жыл бұрын
Another trick is to wrap a dingle-ball hone with some sandpaper (fine grit) and rubber bands and use Purple Power or Simple Green, etc. and take the high spots down. I use this on import engines or performance rebuilds with narrow/metric rings and moly (fragile) rings. Chrome rings or ductile iron will work fine with your method, I agree!
@benitodelgado8739
@benitodelgado8739 5 ай бұрын
The second time around on the third cylinder one of the stones was backwards.... or I'm seeing things... anyone else catch that? yikes... I suddenly have more confidence in doing this myself LOL. nothing but love Uncle Tony LOL
@oldsgamer72cutlass19
@oldsgamer72cutlass19 Жыл бұрын
I want to learn how to do this. Would you recommend practicing on a shot trash block before getting into a good one?
@chevroletbelair1
@chevroletbelair1 Жыл бұрын
Hi tony is see alot of you're vids. I live in Belgium and we only drive 3-6 cilinder cars. So Belgium's engine builder shops don't do alot V8 engines. I have bought a 331 stroker kit with mahle pistons and moly rings. I didn't tell my engine builder what to hone with because i thought he would know. But 2 months after i emailed him to ask what grid he used and first he told me 380 gritt. The next day he emailed me back that it was wrong and Sayed it was 180 gritt stones honed. What can I do know? Just file fit my rings. Thanks for you're vids
@tomupchurch4911
@tomupchurch4911 7 ай бұрын
Tony's pistol grip boring bar ! Just kidding...Good video man.
@adamboychuk8221
@adamboychuk8221 Ай бұрын
What type of liquid is in the bottle that you are using to lubricate to cylinders Is it a cutting oil
@martinw9425
@martinw9425 Ай бұрын
gazoline , but you can use wd40 or other oil.
@nurburgringdreaming2221
@nurburgringdreaming2221 2 жыл бұрын
Crosshatch looks good
@moss8448
@moss8448 2 жыл бұрын
talk about crawling into the carb and coming out of the exhaust pipe
@keremustunkaya9650
@keremustunkaya9650 Жыл бұрын
Hello Sir. Would it be nice to use Flexhone same grit ( or finer grit ) after the stone honing to break the peaks for easier rings bedding in ? Regards
@johnroberts3824
@johnroberts3824 3 күн бұрын
What specific stone grits would you recommend for cast iron rings vs steel rings?
@sdfilmfolks
@sdfilmfolks Жыл бұрын
Thanks again
@TheFretlessmaster
@TheFretlessmaster Жыл бұрын
thank you Tony
@BoomerDH81
@BoomerDH81 Жыл бұрын
Can I hone my block before sending it to the machine shop for a deep clean?
@Scrappy7238
@Scrappy7238 Жыл бұрын
Hi Tony Good video man ! Could please specify what you are squirting down the boars whilst you were honing. I want to hone a small small 4 cylinder GM block, 1,6 liter. Its from 2003 , and its cast iron. Is the middle grit of 180 ok for the zylinder honing ?. Thankyou
@mattiakers20
@mattiakers20 9 ай бұрын
I cant find any videos on using this type of stone hone on atv and dirtbike cylinders. Im reading not to use them because the spring loading action can catch the ports inside those type of cylinders. That a flex hone is the best because of the ports. Any input?
@DataToTheZero
@DataToTheZero 9 ай бұрын
Here is a tip for all you creative types out there. When it comes to rebuilding engines, one thing you absolutely DON'T want to do is chamfer the cylinder tops. Let me tell you why. Recently, I had a customer bring in what was supposed to be a recently rebuilt engine from a full-service junkyard. However, upon inspection, it became clear that although the engine had been rebuilt, it wasn't done properly. The use of water and absence of a thermostat hinted at trouble, but it was when I dismantled it that I found the real issues. Rust stains in the cylinders and evidence of multiple head gasket failures indicated serious problems. Despite the low mileage and new pistons, the tops of the bores were chamfered, likely for easier piston installation. This seemingly innocent modification had dire consequences. The head gasket wasn't adequately shielded from the combustion flame, leading to overheating and premature failure. While a general rule of thumb is to maintain approximately 1mm or 0.04 of clearance between the head gasket and both the cylinder bore and the combustion chamber, it's essential to verify this clearance according to the specifications of your specific engine. Engine designs can vary, so always refer to the manufacturer's guidelines for precise measurements. Proper clearance is crucial to prevent overheating and premature failure of the head gasket. In this case it was likely hanging inside the bore. If you're working on an engine without alignment dowels (common in older 4-cylinder engines), don't worry. You can use a thin layer of glue, like contact glue or silicone, to secure the head gasket in place. Just apply it sparingly on the outer corners outside of the bolts, and ensure there's no excess. Remember, proper engine rebuilding is all about attention to detail and following best practices. Don't let shortcuts like chamfering the cylinder tops lead to costly repairs down the line or worse still an engine that you can never figure out what's going wrong! Happy wrenching!
@DataToTheZero
@DataToTheZero 9 ай бұрын
I've seen cometic recommend at least 0.01 clearance.
@Bigislandguy
@Bigislandguy 5 ай бұрын
Me 😂I’m that guy who always works on modern vehicles. I’m amazed how easy these older engines are
@snreverything3008
@snreverything3008 Ай бұрын
Good work thanks for the knowledge.
@jTamayo34
@jTamayo34 7 ай бұрын
I have a motor that was machined years ago and it has been stored away in my garage ever since it was machined. It has developed surface rust even though I sprayed it with WD40 gel spray after it was machined and washed. Was wondering if you had any tips on what to use to remove the surface rust. I'd hate to score the block deck and bores by using the wrong tools/materials. Thanks in advance.
@DavidGeorge-wp1kz
@DavidGeorge-wp1kz 9 ай бұрын
What would you consider a medium or fine grit hone ? Thanks for the lesson in all things engine
@jodypierson3137
@jodypierson3137 2 жыл бұрын
I used to drive to every part store to find what I was looking for , now I call them.
@eliharley5876
@eliharley5876 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all these helpful videos. What grit Stone would you use for a slant six standard home with cast rings? For occasional daily driver type use
@UncleTonysGarage
@UncleTonysGarage Жыл бұрын
You'd want to use coarse for that engine
@eliharley5876
@eliharley5876 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply
@eliharley5876
@eliharley5876 Жыл бұрын
I've never done it before, do I just want to look for coarse Grit? Or is there a number to also look for kind of like sandpaper has numbers?
@UncleTonysGarage
@UncleTonysGarage Жыл бұрын
It's pretty straightforward. Stones are generally listed as Fine, Medium and Coarse
@eliharley5876
@eliharley5876 Жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you very much, I really appreciate your time
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