"Your Fraudulency:" The 1876 election

[@TheHistoryGuyChannel]

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[@Markver1]

“The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.” -Ecclesiastes 1:9 KJV, King Solomon

[@northdakotaham1752]

Dishonesty, collusion and distrust are poor medicine for a nation that needs healing.

[@clintward3532]

I believe 2020 has surpassed this election as the most corrupt. Just my opinion though.

[@sherylcascadden4988]

Unfortunately, some history topics will cause people to snipe at each other. When I start going in that direction I try to step back and remember "just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right.". If I have offended, I apologize.

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

I think this is a case where the phrase," those who forget history are doomed to repeat it." Seems to apply.🙄

[@nathanielheilmann7351]

"Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it. Yet those who do study history are doomed to stand by helplessly while everyone else repeats it"

[@DougFLTRX]

🤣 So very true

[@ZER0ZER0SE7EN]

"You can ignore History, but History won't ignore you."

[@archingelus]

Thats democracy bro

[@karenryder6317]

Politics has ever been and ever will be tribal. G. Washington was wise in not wanting political parties in the newborn republic. Too bad more people didn't listen to him.

[@john_smith_john]

@@karenryder6317 Naive attitude. They were inevitable with the system and survived every attempt to avoid them.

[@rob-v1y]

Saw a cartoon that reminded me of you: "Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it. Those who do study history are doomed to watch helplessly as those who don't ...repeat it."

[@HM2SGT]

"For it is the Doom of men that they forget!" Merlin

[@ethanbailey7426]

People will learn about all the corrupt and unethical things the government has done in the past and say "Wow, glad that doesn't happen anymore!"

[@septembersurprise5178]

And we (those who don't) are working hard to supply future content for The History Guy, cheers!

[@WHix-om4yo]

LOL! Thanks for your refreshing cynicism. In light of recent events, this episode makes me sort of...uneasy. Cheers!

[@TranscendianIntendor]

What we think of as warnings they think of as instructions.

[@stevepettersen3283]

Whoever thought up the old saying about "Cheaters never win" must not have been a politician.

[@JeffDeWitt]

Or he might have been, and he said that as misdirection. After all, if "cheaters never win" and he won that's "proof" he didn't cheat, right?

[@dsnodgrass4843]

Nor a capitalist.

[@kfrerix9777]

The point is that to cheat and win is to lose, morally.

[@bokesnmokes]

It’s “cheaters never prosper”.

[@barrybarlowe5640]

Even cheaters must face their maker, eventually.

[@russwoodward8251]

People who say “that’s never before happened in history” just need to watch more History Guy. Thanks again!

[@raydunakin]

Too bad our modern day journalists don't learn this kind of history. They always seem to think any controversy regarding elections is "unprecedented".

[@skeetrix5577]

The media in this country is largely fraudulent

[@rachelk4805]

@@skeetrix5577 In what sense? A lot of the people who are considered "talking heads" by journalism grads are still well qualified to at least report the news, and usually the underlying investigative work is done by journalism graduates who have both a special mention in the Constitution and professional code of ethics. They are still human, but they often report when they have made errors. With the exception of those who argue in court that their shows are for entertainment purposes only, despite having the word "news" plastered over it (or those who just decided to start an opinion podcast on the internet), most are exactly what they claim to be. So, in what way is news "largely" fraudulent, or do you mean that you dislike what they report?

[@GUNNER67akaKelt]

@@rachelk4805 What they mean is the news is often patently false. A combination of blatantly biased, just plain dishonest, and lazily incompetent reporting, has left a great many people with absolutely no trust in the media. The only people who believe the media any more are those who DO like what they report. Of course, if you like what you hear, why would you bother the check the facts. I've caught the media in so many blatant lies I can't take anything they say seriously anymore. Well, maybe the weather.

[@neilkurzman4907]

@@GUNNER67akaKelt A lot of people don’t care what the truth is. They find someone who tells them what they want to hear and then calls that the news. Half of the 24 hour news stations have commentary not news. Often blatant opinion having nothing to do with fact.

[@37center]

@@rachelk4805 what we mean is YOU BROADCAST FAKE NEWS! izakly as stated mo ron. Get This: The People Don't Trust You anymore, however much they ever did. And y'all did it to yourselves, eat it.

[@OldVermontGuy]

This illustrates the old adage "The more things change the more they stay the same". It is unfortunate that we ignore our history an keep repeating so many of the most distasteful aspects of human nature and politics.

[@mlconley]

Those who choose to erase history will find themselves repeating it.

[@hlmoore8042]

I just said the same.

[@d.e.b.b5788]

Gee, it's almost as if the politicians in charge, intentionally want to keep the electorate as ignorant as possible.

[@dukecraig2402]

1876, Ballot box stuffing. 2020, Universal mail in voting.

[@allen_p]

Great episode. 7:05 "...newspapers across the country were declaring winners, stoking controversy, selling papers...." I'm sure glad that doesn't happen today 🤣

[@sherylcascadden4988]

Snicker.

[@stephenphillip5656]

🤨....man, so do I. It *couldn't* happen nowadays, could it? 🙄

[@justme_gb]

LOL! No one is really selling papers anymore - so there's that.

[@ZER0ZER0SE7EN]

DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN

[@procinctu1]

@@stephenphillip5656 that would be crazy. People would NEVER exploit a “once in a generation” event to alter an election…

[@markross2124]

I did teach my class about that election at Arnold Middle school in Arnold PA, many years, ago while working for that district as a substitute teacher.

[@cvkline]

A cautionary tale from the past, as usual expertly reported, and so clearly relevant for the current situation in the USA. I cannot make up my mind whether learning that "all of this has happened before" should be a source of comfort or not.

[@mlconley]

Election of his fraudulency led to a Great populist revolt.

[@karenryder6317]

It isn't to me. It makes me fear we will never be able to overcome tribalism.

[@ostrich67]

@@mlconley you lost.

[@jackrice2770]

Yeah, I'm feeling the same way, since we're talking about the period immediately after the Civil War...get that? A Civil War! Although this does at least tell us that nothing's changed throughout history, there are always people willing to do anything for power over others. The whole point of democracy is that the majority of the people who are going to affected by this power decide who will have it...and will take it away if it's abused! That last part is important.

[@inconnu4961]

@@karenryder6317 The 'easiest' way to overcome tribalism is for EVERYONE to be good & honest. Once we can make that happen, tribalism has not a leg to stand on. Thats it; thats all we have to do! LOL

[@eliscanfield3913]

"I won this state by 103% of the vote!" Oh yeah, sounds like a legit election.

[@HeyIFoundACamera]

Mayor Daly somehow got away with it...twice!

[@moss8448]

what was the line in the movie Gangs of New York? it's not how many votes are cast but who's counting them....or something to that effect.

[@dukecraig2402]

@@moss8448 Miller's Crossing (1990 Movie) Leo; "Hey Tom, you know the Mayor don't you?" Tom; "I should, I voted for him 6 times in the last election." The Mayor; "The worst thing is that's not the record."

[@Louis_Davout]

"...2020???"

[@jballaviator]

Sounds like Phoenix, Detroit, and Atlanta.

[@jayrowe6473]

Great video. It's sad how some people today believe that "politics only became dirty and corrupt in recent years"... but human nature has never changed.

[@kfrerix9777]

Nope. We ARE in an unusual situation. Our last president was a useful idiot for a major adversary. Also, 30 criminal charges. It is NOT "sad" to notice.

[@stevenlitvintchouk3131]

There were plenty of other examples of 19th century corruption: Teapot Dome scandal, Credit Mobilier scandal, etc.

[@wandabanks6756]

It was just more obvious now

[@danherold2730]

What a timely report. History does repeat itself in large strokes.

[@joanhoffman3702]

Indeed it does.

[@timothykeith1367]

“History Doesn't Repeat Itself, but It Often Rhymes” - Mark Twain.

[@athelwulfgalland]

@@timothykeith1367 I'm a little late to the party but you said exactly what I was planning to say before I saw your response. ;)

[@dukecraig2402]

Strokes being the key word there.

[@neilkurzman4907]

Except back then both sides were actually trying to steal the election. No one was pretending.

[@danieltolson5341]

You really can always depend on history repeating itself.

[@andrewyoung2796]

Maybe rhyming too

[@Colonel_Overkill]

Those who dont learn from history are doomed to repeat it their senior year... But yea, thats not a familiar story to current times in the slightest...

[@r3dp9]

For better or worse, the cycle of history is a source of hope.

[@Colonel_Overkill]

@@r3dp9 yes, it is. It just saddens me the amount of blood required to buy that hope is measured in such large quantities.

[@toniadugger3954]

Damn

[@alancranford3398]

I remember studying this way back in high school. That's why the 2000 and 2020 elections were no shock for me.

[@erinmcdonald7781]

Good on your history teachers. We didn't get much of this type of detail in highschool.

[@bryonwatkins1432]

Your joking about 2020, right? The 2000, that was easily proven! The 2020, election, Trump lost because he underestimated the NEW voting block that are predominantly liberals!!!! All one has to do is study them!!!! The continuous downfall of the GOP, now after 2020, the abortion!!!! The GOP should have left abortion alone because it opened Pandora’s Box. People, you all need to turn off that stupid MSNBC, Fox News, and CNN!!!! Open up books, study analytics, trends, and demographics (EXTREMELY important)!!!! BEFORE the 2020 election, i made a Facebook livestream telling people Trump would lose, WHY, states he would lose, and the Electoral College!!!! Can’t damn close!!!! Trump’s OTHER downfall was his idiocy administration!!!! They were just dumb!!!! Had no knowledge of history which is VERY important as well!!!! Trump yelling massive voter fraud against Obama, H. Clinton, Ted Cruz, and Brian Kemp, NOOOOO evidence whatsoever!!!! Funny that more and more voter fraud from conservatives are being uncovered!!!! The wide investigations by conservatives, STILL haven’t found massive voter fraud!!!! OOOOOOH, see the link from conservatives themselves!!!! i read it!!!! The conservatives better direct their attention to the younger voters and how to make them happy!!!! This massive voter fraud and abortion crap, just pissing them off more!!!! See the recent elections lately? More indicators!!!! Hell, even 36% of conservative women support abortion!!!! You all better wake the FCUK up and leave you emotions out of this!!!! Then there are the PLETHORA of indictments within the Trump administration 🤦🏾‍♂️!!!! That ALONE is insane!!!! lostnotstolen.org//wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Lost-Not-Stolen-The-Conservative-Case-that-Trump-Lost-and-Biden-Won-the-2020-Presidential-Election-July-2022.pdf

[@frankbandera6591]

2016 shouldn't have been shock either *Russia says USAID ousted for meddling in elections* ~LA Times, 9/20/12

[@joanhoffman3702]

It just goes to show that politics is still a dirty business and a confused mess.

[@gymshoe8862]

Political corruption seems to come in waves--we happen to be riding the crest of a wave right now.

[@FlyinRaptorJesus]

If our schools actually taught history maybe we wouldn't be repeating it so often.

[@Sabrasmkk]

@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket So, you want to use the actions of a long dead person to color the reputation of their currently living descendants? How about we start with your family? How about every time one of your ancestors broke a law that you are punished for it? And what if one of your ancestors once murdered someone? Shall we toss you in prison for a crime you never committed or possibly even knew about it? Yes, slavery and racism are abhorrent. But why in the world would you punish someone now for something that they and their living family members had no part in? That whole idea is ridiculous, stupid, and very woke. It's about as stupid as the idea of reparations for those whose ancestors were slaves. Those who have been slaves are the only ones owed reparations and only those who own/owned slaves should be punished. You do not punish the son for the sins of the father. Ted Bundy's family was not executed alongside him because they had nothing to do with his murders. The same for Adolf Hitler's family, the BTK killer's family, or even the family of the Son of Sam. As for what you said about killing off people in the south, that kind of attitude is no different then what Joseph Mengle and his "associates" did.

[@firefalcon100]

@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket that would be absolutely no good. You replace slave owners with angry grieving people who had relatives die because of your purge. It would have further ingrained the hatred for former slaves.

[@jliller]

@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket "The thing is anyone that gets offended by that statement is saying they think slave owners should be alive" 1. Most people are rather picky about who they are willing to kill. Nowadays a lot of people are adverse to killing ANYONE, even serial killers and child molesters who are convicted with overwhelming evidence. 2. How are you defining "slave owners"? There were 393,975 slave owners on the 1860 census. But that doesn't include people who rented slaves, traded slaves, were overseers of slaves, spouses and other family members of slave owners who didn't own slaves in the strict legal sense but did own them in a practical sense, etc. 3. "Kill every racist" is even more problematic. The vast majority of Americans who opposed slavery in the 1860s were still racist, including many who fought in the Union Army and Southern Unionists who opposed the Confederacy. 4. Regardless of who you can make a compelling argument deserved to be executed, carrying out such executions wasn't remotely practical.

[@draneym2003]

Hey come on, they do teach history in red states. They just teach the parts that make them look good and definitely not storming the Capitol types.

[@phaedrussmith1949]

I got so distracted reading this insane comment thread I had to restart the video.

[@brentiers]

Liars, cheaters and thieves are the bane of our existence.

[@ScoutSniper3124]

(aka. Career Politicians)

[@filanfyretracker]

And yet they are always in power, Politicians and Wall Street.

[@thurin84]

"The struggle’s no longer just who gets to vote. It’s about who gets to count the vote." joe biden

[@moss8448]

they just wanna be in charge of the tax money is all

[@skeetrix5577]

Man you ain't lyin lol

[@MrArcher7]

Wow. After watching the series 'The American West' I thought the History guy should really do an episode on the election of 1876 and here it is. I didn't even need to send an email. History guy is just taking suggestion telepathically.

[@larryd9068]

Hey, I like THG's 'Lost in Space' robot on the shelf. That brings back a lot of memories from my childhood. Looks like I'm becoming an antique!

[@VintageCarHistory]

Funny thing is, Wheeler was actually nominated as Haye's running mate as a joke. The convention was looking for a running mate and no one wanted it. Someone on the floor shouted, 'Let's give it to Wheeler!' It was late and everyone wanted to just get it over with and the nomination went to the floor and was approved. Many of the delegates comment, 'Who is Wheeler?'

[@jimbob3332]

"Wheeler? I hardly know her!"

[@slypear]

@@jimbob3332 😂

[@rascallyrabbit717]

Vice president that's who

[@melchiorscousin2504]

​@@jimbob3332 You liquor

[@ventura70007]

You are Amazing!! History Guy... I now know that America has always been a fustercluck. I now have hope for the future that we will continue to survive even as we chew each other to pieces. God... Please bless America...

[@vincegiaccone4411]

We have seen some dark days in America, days we are not proud of. May God have mercy on us All.

[@markprenger1979]

Kinda of funny that Florida was involved in the 1876 and 2000 election mess.

[@mckenzymarbury195]

😂

[@stevedietrich8936]

Your video mentioned Dan Sickles. I imagine this is the same Dan Sickles that was a Civil War General, famous (or infamous) for his actions at Gettysburg, and also famous for shooting his wife's lover, a government Attorney, in broad daylight outside the White House. Sickles was acquitted, the first time that a successful plea of "Temporary Insanity" was used.

[@markprenger1979]

I think it is also Sickles was a Medal of Honor receiptian for his actions at Gettysburg

[@TheHistoryGuyChannel]

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[@stevedietrich8936]

@@TheHistoryGuyChannel LOL. I forgot where I learned it from. In my defense (not using temporary insanity though) you have produced around 600 videos.

[@sherylcascadden4988]

@@TheHistoryGuyChannel thanks. I thought you did that.....

[@HM2SGT]

Infamous & notorious

[@josephstevens9888]

The Hayes home in Freemont, Ohio is worth the visit if you're ever in north-central Ohio. The President and Mrs. Hayes are buried in a family plot out in the yard, flanked by the graves two of Hayes' Civil War horses.

[@richardcleveland8549]

I'm glad the horses were civil; so many are NOT!

[@MikeBrown-ii3pt]

Fremont is in Northwest Ohio, not North Central. It's approximately 30 miles East of Toledo on U.S. 20 and I've lived in the area my entire 53 years. Other than that, you're right, the Hayes House and Museum are definitely worth visiting. They're actually having sleigh rides on the grounds this weekend.

[@josephstevens9888]

I stand correct... I meant to say "Civil War horses"!

[@josephstevens9888]

@@richardcleveland8549 I stand correct... I meant to say "Civil War horses"!

[@josephstevens9888]

@@MikeBrown-ii3pt Sound great... thanks for the info Mike!

[@ianwilkinson5069]

Mr. History you are truly a gentleman and a scholar.

[@buddyg1408]

And there are few of us left

[@DavidSmith-fw6uj]

Love from DeKalb Mississippi USA 🇺🇸 Home of the bloody 43rd Ms

[@theCAPOSHOW]

The camel regiment!

[@edwardheida2919]

“A record of 81% of eligible voters voted” (twice, or even three times) 😁. Great history lesson. Just proves how powerful the vote is

[@zenolachance1181]

Yes... I find it fascinating how few people take voting seriously today. And how many people know nothing of the issues, other than what they hear on Broadcast News or social media

[@sherylcascadden4988]

As opposed to 2016 when 2/3 of the eligible voters stayed home in protest. I wonder if Trump or Hillary could have won if those people had chosen any third party.

[@Eric_Hutton.1980]

Remember. Vote early and vote often.

[@HM2SGT]

I'm reminded of the voting chapter of the film Gangs of New York

[@sino8r499]

@@HM2SGT yeah, that was great! Get a shave and vote again lol

[@Reaperman4711]

I notice the USPS LLV in the background. The wife just came back from a DC work trip and picked me up a seemingly identical one from the Postal Museum. I'm hard to buy tourist things for, but she knows I'm a fan of those vehicles.

[@jrunn93]

To add to the chaos of that day/ week, tomb robbers attempted to steal Abraham Lincoln's body.

[@davidmehling4310]

Living in Fremont Ohio most of my life, I am familiar with this story as that is the location of Hayes home Spiegel Grove. Thank you for bringing it to a wide audience in your matter of fact manner. Spiegel Grove is owned by the state of Ohio, open to the public with the house maintained c1880 appearance, museum, research library, and shady grounds with walking trails

[@dugroz]

Best retelling I've ever heard. Anything I'd ever read on this before makes it sound like the back-room deal was a "for sure" thing, and failed to mention that Hayes was in favor of South home rule before the controversy.

[@moss8448]

oh did we leave that part out? that's one thing the South didn't forget but they did bring it on themselves in a lot of ways..spoken as a Southerner

[@sunshinecoolwater9528]

History often repeats...you, you know the thing.

[@mlconley]

Are you referring to "His Fraudulency the Second"?

[@slowturtle6745]

@@mlconley Thanks, I'm stealing that....just like the election.

[@ThZuao]

The 1876 election is the second most safe and secure election ever. There was no evidence of widespread fraud. Stop spreading misinformation. Or we'll have to charge you for sedition.

[@timmmahhhh]

@@slowturtle6745 🤣

[@shawnr771]

It might not repeat but it sure does rhyme.

[@thomasrennirt5458]

History worth remembering indeed

[@artsmith1347]

But not history that should be re-lived and should be a cautionary tale. The election of 1876 didn't install a communist whose corruption permeated the entire executive branch.

[@empracingau]

Thanks

[@TheHistoryGuyChannel]

Thank you

[@lambastepirate]

I wondered why Bull Dozer was in as news paper before they could have been invented Interesting one for you to do History Guy According to "Bulldozers" written by Sam Sargent and Michael Alves: "Around 1880, the common usage of 'bull-dose' in the United States meant administering a large and efficient dose of any sort of medicine or punishment. If you 'bull-dosed' someone, you gave him a severe whipping or coerced or intimidated him in some other way, such as by holding a gun to his head. In 1886, with a slight variation in spelling, a 'bulldozer' had come to mean both a large-caliber pistol and the person who wielded it. By the late 1800s, 'bulldozing' came to mean using brawny force to push over, or through, any obstacle."

[@evensgrey]

Ah, so when the heavy tracked pushing machine was invented, it was a natural name to apply to it. I'd like to know the real origin of the phrase, "That's a doozy!" It sounds like it should refer to the Duesenberg luxury and racing cars, but it predates their creation by at least 4 years. (It's possible that these cars, many of which are still roadworthy today, popularized the phrase, but it couldn't have inspired it.)

[@kenycharles8600]

@@evensgrey you might be interested in watching an episode of Jay Leno's garage about a Duesenberg that he owns. He touches on the "doozy" phraseology a little before the video ends.

[@filanfyretracker]

And here I thought bulldozer was a name connected to a large strong bovine.

[@JeffDeWitt]

@@filanfyretracker That may have been where the term actually came from. After all if you get run into by one of those critters you are literally bulldozed!

[@dennisud]

I taught this over my 35 years of teaching History & Civics. I did cover the presidential elections of 1824, 1876, 1888, 2000, and 2016, It really hit home to my classes when I covered the Elections of Bush V. Gore, & Trump V. Clinton!

[@madsaadsa7647]

Nice fresh jigsaw vignette at the beginning. Love your work to bits.

[@rawyin]

First, this is really well timed content. Second, this may be your best content that I have seen to date. People argue about statues and confederate leaders and they don't understand that it took a century for many of the resolutions to this conflict to settle. Now we've forgotten and we act like we are bringing up something new.

[@justme_gb]

There are monuments that were erected immediately following the Civil War (e.g. Manassas Battlefield) and those erected in the Jim Crow Era (e.g. R.E. Lee in Charlottesville). The latter was actually unanamously approved by an entirely Democrat city council. The history of each, individual monument is certainly forgotten today.

[@MrIluvbutts]

@@justme_gb before repubs switched to the south and pivoted to racism

[@thetruth-hl7ct]

@@MrIluvbutts Another media/Dem lie.

[@northdakotaham1752]

@@MrIluvbutts really? When did that happen?

[@john_smith_john]

@@northdakotaham1752 between the 30's-60's

[@evensgrey]

"The Long Depression" is almost entirely mythical. It is the result of later historians not understanding economics and so simply assuming that a lengthy period of steadily lowering prices must mean there was an economic disaster in progress. People at the time, however, didn't mention anything of the sort going on. What was really happening was the supply of money couldn't quite keep up with economic growth, which forced the value of money up and prices down.

[@evensgrey]

@working_country ___Hardly. We have records of currency being devalued and the resulting price inflation going back to at least Classical Rome. It also happened when Spain looted all that gold and silver from Aztec and Inca empires. It happened periodically in England when the Crown would debase the metal the coinage was minted from (and was largely undone when Elizabeth I systematically undebased all the coinage and issued high-purity coins again). Inflation wasn't all THAT bad in the US until the US went fully fiat currency in the 1970's. I was a kid, but even I noticed that there was an order of magnitude increase in prices between when I started primary school in 1975 and ended middle school in 1984.

[@vulpsturm]

Much like how "The Dark Ages" was and is still viewed as a period of time where nothing was going on.

[@evensgrey]

@@vulpsturm Which is an easy mistake to make if you only look at documents, which are relatively scarce in the period we call the Middle Ages. If you look at what actually happened, there was a LOT going on in Europe in the period. Huge migrations, massive wars, great (if incredibly dirty and smelly) cities were built, and by the later half of the period you've got the construction of massive cathedrals and castles that still exist all over Europe. (Fun fact: France spent a larger proportion of it's total productivity building cathedrals than the US did to go to the moon in the 1960's. The results were some of the largest indoor spaces created before the 20th century.)

[@rogerscottcathey]

Interesting.

[@natowaveenjoyer9862]

@working_country ___ "which is why inflation (devaluing currency) was invented." Please tell me you're joking. Inflation as a economic concept dates back to the Romans.

[@lawrencehudson9939]

Good presentation. I learned a lot today and also was reminded of my high school history teacher who went on about Hayes back in 1968. It's good to refresh one's memory and gain new perspectives on current events. Thank you.

[@terrycaseyphd4608]

Thank you for providing this objective historical perspective. It is a true public service.

[@LoganJohnson-lm2bh]

As one who loves learning new things all my life I was and am a great reader , in school i loved reading about our U.S. history when learning about this early election i could not help but think of this election nothing less than a second civil war .the one thing i found most interesting was that in those days it took so long to tally all the votes it could take months before a winner was declared and announced .

[@kenaikuskokwim9694]

This is nice timing. I just finished Justice Rehnquist's book on this, which is very even-handed. His epilogue goes through almost every instance of Justices doing odd jobs like this: sitting on commissions, negotiating treaties, trying war criminals, etc.

[@hmmmiseeisee]

Thanks!

[@glenmartin2437]

In all the U.S. history courses I took, this fiasco was never mentioned. That includes the 8th grade U.S. Constitution course and exam I took in California to graduate from the 8th grade, the Civics course and exam in the Commonwealth of Virginia, the US Constitution course at Iowa State University, the U.S. Constitution course at Barstow Community College in California and the U.S. Constitution and Nevada History course at the University of Nevada at Reno. Interesting!

[@garymickus6412]

@Glen Martin, Maybe it was not mentioned due to corruption of this election. No point in “airing dirty linen in public.”

[@flashwashington2735]

Thanks.

[@ukrainiipyat]

Vote early and vote often.

[@richardcleveland8549]

That was Lincoln's advice to the Whigs, when he was one.

[@stephenalexander6721]

There is nothing new under the sun.

[@easycamperdandog]

History is merely a magnifying glass we can use to see ourselves, a mirror in which our own reflection stares back.

[@bertwesler1181]

Wow~! This surely puts the present in a different light.

[@justicedunham4088]

People think politics is so crazy today, but never stopped to realize it’s always been this crazy, we’re just paying more attention now. If anything, it’s calmed down a little.

[@infoscholar5221]

Wonderful explication on the Worst Year in Electoral History. I was reminded of this by recent antics during the last presidential election, I recommend to anyone Gore Vidal's epic novel, "!876," That deals with that fallen election through the eyes of a young man visiting Washington at the time. Great Channel.

[@davefrey5998]

What goes around,comes around!!

[@fazbell]

Outstanding synopsis of an amazing election year.

[@elcastorgrande]

"If there is one fact we really can prove, from the history that we really do know, it is that despotism can be a development, often a late development and very often indeed the end of societies that have been highly democratic. A despotism may almost be defined as a tired democracy. As fatigue falls on a community, the citizens are less inclined for that eternal vigilance which has truly been called the price of liberty; and they prefer to arm only one single sentinel to watch the city while they sleep." G. K. Chesterton, The Everlasting Man, Ch. III (1922)

[@ricksanchez3176]

And that was written before TV and these little sxrying screens grew our complacency further. Great quote. Ofcourse if a politician was to say to the people that maintaining a government of the people was the responsibility of the people, Nancy Pelosi would drag them up infront of the J6 commission on grounds of inciting the Great American Walkthrough of 21'.

[@daviddamascus9657]

​@@ricksanchez3176 Ya, but fortunately J6 wasn't in 21 and happened in 20 instead which was an actual insurrection and not a walk through. But I get it. You aren't talking about that or even making a vague reference to it, so...

[@ricksanchez3176]

@@daviddamascus9657 don't eat paint chips

[@daviddamascus9657]

@@ricksanchez3176 Don't drink bleach. It won't help with COVID.

[@ricksanchez3176]

@@daviddamascus9657 keep that mask on tight

[@bobm549]

Had to watch this one over a few times . Thank you for the history , we need it.

[@wolfstar_productions]

We DID NOT learn THIS in our Education in the State of California. Love this, yet...

[@nunyabussiness4054]

The more things change, the more things stay the same.

[@moss8448]

they were talking about 'Progressives' at the turn of the century and it was for simple things like workers rights and silly stuff like that...the big boys always holler about too much government because for one thing they don't want anyone looking over their shoulders...how dare the common man have a say so..by god we own this place or something to that effect...yeah right until it's their ass on the line then it's a different story and they become 'super' patriots.

[@rnedlo9909]

'The more things change, the more they stay the same'

[@charlesclager6808]

Excellent video and very instructive. The video recalling history and recent events are two reasons why the electoral collage must be eliminated and the popular vote decides who the winner should be.

[@awesomeferret]

Please look into what the electoral college actually is, and why advocating for its removal is actually to be anti-democracy.

[@WhydoIsuddenlyhaveahandle]

Direct democracy is a disaster, mob rule, and crushes the minority. Those living amd working in the country making all the food would never have a voice.

[@BlueBaron3339]

Rather than venture into difficult territory, I will simply point out that I think is the finest work on this - Gore Vidal's *_1876_* released during the bicentennial.

[@davidloomis9282]

You can tour the David Davis Mansion in Bloomington IL When he was a circuit judge in his earlier days he rode the same circuit with a lawyer named Abe Lincoln and came to know him well

[@theCAPOSHOW]

I live in that area, I will have to check that out. Thanks. Lincoln has an old office in metamora Illinois worth checking out.

[@dwcheshire]

I always think that things just couldn't get any worse, then I look at history.

[@marionmarcetic7287]

Thanks History Guy, You Really Rocked It Brother!!! I'm So Happy That I've Found Your Great Channel.❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🇨🇦🇮🇱♾️🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🗽🦅‼️

[@orbyfan]

Boy, politics was great back in those days! That was the first of six straight close presidential elections during the Gilded Age. A book about this election is "The Stolen Election" by Lloyd Robinson, published in 1968.

[@sterfry8502]

Very interesting video! Thanks for another great episode

[@stischer47]

Interestingly, a visit by Hayes in San Antonio created the Battle of Flowers, which has become a parade in Fiesta over 100 years later.

[@3lullabies]

I thought it was a dedication to the Alamo defenders.

[@witwicky735]

Best episode ever. Thank you!

[@grantmcdowell5639]

I wonder how many years it took before they called it ACTUAL fraud.

[@bc2578]

Long after it was too late, as usual. It's like the fake election was actually made in a lab.

[@moss8448]

missing chads

[@krysti2]

Great information! Thankyou...🎉🎉🎉

[@constipatedinsincity4424]

Back in the Saddle Again

[@sharkytool]

all this has happened before and all of this will happen again & again & again. history may not always repeat but often it rimes.

[@dennisud]

I remember Walter Cronkite's "You are There" series did an episode on this election. Even back then they emphasized the Corruption and Cronyism of it!

[@Redmenace96]

We see the the U.S. as a bastion of enlightenment. During the first 100 years, the U.S. govt. was no better than the Congo or Cambodia, or any other tiny country with a strong man leader. Corruption and Cronyism were just called, "government".

[@bruce-burns]

Very timely, makes me feel like politics today are not as nearly bad as in our not so distant past history of the country. There is hope!

[@jameskuyper]

I'm surprised that you didn't make the connection between the election of 1876 and the Electoral Count Act of 1887, which was passed to deal with the problems revealed by the 1876 election. That Act had a key role to play in the 2020 election.

[@PolymerLad]

How much things change, how much they stay the same

[@monkeygraborange]

You brought up the name of Roscoe Conkling, which would make a fascinating segment. He was a friend and confidant of Grant, and apparently he played Grant like a fiddle (like so many others did) for personal profit.

[@sendachimptospace]

Your openings are always top quality!

[@ryanalopez3078]

And how do we allow anything similar to this level of corruption in 🇺🇲? Transparency and our elected officials should be held to a higher level of accountability and put in prison double a "regular" citizen if they do anything illegal.

[@johnlehmeyer8793]

Wow some things never change

[@john_in_phoenix]

This sounds so familiar.

[@northdakotaham1752]

It's a really deja vu sort of thing.

[@revade6698]

Agreed. So little has changed.

[@groovedwareman]

"Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose..."

[@ivane5110]

I don't know if it's happened enough or others would be interested enough in it, but it'd be great to see a video on headlines that never came true. The famous Dewey Defeats Truman paper comes instantly to mind.

[@HM2SGT]

Indeed! I had a similar thought, trying to remind people that everything they're so wrapped around the axle about is nothing new. 1948 definitely came to mind!

[@filanfyretracker]

makes me wonder at times how many headlines the papers have had ready in history, That thankfully did not come true or unfortunately came true. Like I would not be surprised if there was a rocket explodes headline ready for every Apollo and Shuttle mission(which sadly they got to use in 1984 for Challenger). In less serious things I know that things like the Superbowl tend to have two headlines already to go to the presses.

[@armus550b]

Great episode. And we think we have it bad. I remember 20 years ago when a court election in alabama had to be redone because the number of votes recorded was 120% of the county population. It's gotten much better.

[@HM2SGT]

Everything old is new again; history repeats itself. 😩🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️🙁

[@johnjunge6989]

@Robert Black, so true!!!! Another great THG video 📹 👏

[@hazevthewolf178]

"History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes." ~ Mark Twain

[@bruceporter8978]

Thank you for your work it’s enjoyable

[@bryantsemenza9703]

Another Great job, I love how history repeats itself. Looking at this election and today. Wow, tactics and fraudulent are almost the same. Again great job History Guy.

[@tooaskew2558]

2020: “Here, hold my beer.”

[@charlescomly1]

The more things change the more they stay the same.

[@R.C.425]

Thank you

[@chainsawsubtlety9828]

The fact that it has happened before does not make me feel any better about the future of our country.

[@natowaveenjoyer9862]

ok doomer

[@northdakotaham1752]

Give it a year, things will change dramatically.

[@karenryder6317]

@@northdakotaham1752 I can't understand why you think that we will be any less polarized a year from now.

[@northdakotaham1752]

@@karenryder6317 I believe it will improve bc frankly, between Biden, Harris and the left wing Dems in Congress, they suck! Their poll numbers tell the whole story. For that reason I believe Republicans will win both houses this fall, begin a new, more rational congress in January 23 and one of their first tasks will be to address big tech censorship. We are living through an information war(24/7 propaganda).

[@dsnodgrass4843]

@@northdakotaham1752 Biden and the Dems ain't "left wing"; bc Trump supporters ain't the "center". If anything, they've run so far right that even Reagan wouldn't recognize them. There's a real "left" in America now, but you won't find it in the "Blue" party. And it's only getting bigger. See ya soon.

[@wmrayburn7620]

WOW, I am truly sorry that you felt this was a history lesson that deserves to be remembered; and I'm even more sorry that you were correct. I marched with King in Chicago in 1966. And participated in many peaceful demonstrations against the war thereafter. I still believe that " we shall overcome", but I've also come to embrace the notion that evil can never be triumphed over, except for a brief periods Before it rises like a Phoenix. Perhaps each generation, each individual person must grapple with the evil within ourselves. I ABSOLUTELY agree with you that these 'lessons' of history deserve to be remembered. But I think that the most important lesson is that this is in the past. It had its own conflicts and their own catastrophic mistakes in dealing with them. But but the "Trail of Tears "'internment of Japanese Americans, Slavery, and countless other wrongs of the past belong to the Past (& IN the past)! Wisdom dictates that we repudiate these evils in our life and move on.

[@johnrice1943]

Those who do not remember are doomed to repeat history. King was a Communist and a terrible person.

[@jimgoff1170]

@@johnrice1943 I think it’s not about “forgetting “, but it’s that we don’t teach the next generation about what happened and how to avoid repeating it. As for King, you are entitled to your personal opinion, but I completely disagree.

[@scottabc72]

@@johnrice1943 Did you know The G Santayana who coined the phrase you used was a well known atheist and humanist? Probably not because you obviously dont know history only what you want to believe.

[@northdakotaham1752]

These mistakes of the past, including the recent election, do not need to reoccur. There are laws and will be more laws enacted over the next few months which will reduce the ability to steal the rights of others by canceling their legal vote with one which is illegal. This November will be the first test.

[@scottabc72]

@@northdakotaham1752 Spoken like true fascist. No judge, including those appointed by Trump himself, accepted any evidence that the most recent election was in any way fraudulent. Trumps lies and greed are driving down a very dark path.

[@donboehner6005]

excellent lesson

[@steveclark5357]

looks like it is deja vu all over again

[@eliXerxes]

Hmmm, it's quite evidently that this did not begin 2020.

[@dsnodgrass4843]

Or 2016. Or 2000.

[@jeremy28135]

Man those old Political cartoons were brutal 😂