Your Harley-Davidson's WEAKEST Part (We Broke It)

[@BlockheadMoto]

NOT bad for 16k miles and the constant abuse we put Goldzilla through! Looking forward what we can break on er' next! 😅

[@Wreckingcrew909]

🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@SmOoThYwOoDy]

I could come down and give it a durability test...lol

[@Kelz1136]

Chris is the best with the explanations!

[@Pyro1776]

I put 65k miles on my 2015 Ultra Limited… all I ever did was keep the tank full, 3 hole flush every 5k and get new rubber… I was always waiting for the comp or something to go on her, but she never quit.

[@dormantmenace]

My 2015 fdxl comp failed at 33,000. With just a stage 1. It just wore out and started clanking around badly. It was all still tightened to spec. Sounded terrible.

[@Pyro1776]

@@dormantmenace isn’t it weird how the same motor gives dramatically different results to people? I wasn’t exactly easy on her…

[@dormantmenace]

​@Pyro1776 I break everything.. my father was a mechanic. I turned wrench as a choir. Keep my bikes in clean mechanical condition. But am not nice to them.

[@Pyro1776]

@@dormantmenace same buddy… I am very surprised that I wasted so much time researching comp’s, tensioners, oil pumps, etc… and never had to replace anything. Not even a belt. LOL.

[@aaron1015]

Great job! SCIENCE! Loved Justin's questions and answers.

[@Xandirtt]

the biggest issue with the man of war comp is that there's no play in it, with the star racing comp, theres a little bit of play so when the torque hits in the comp it protects your drivetrain. the man of war will put alot of stress on your engine case and eventually cracks it. it helps darkhorse sell their cases lol

[@sickwideglide]

Not quite a completely accurate statement. The darkhorse crank has poly bushings in it to absorb the shockload w/o the needed “play” that you referenced and the star comp is a stock remake just made of billet/forged steel instead of cast

[@expandingourhorizons9455]

I have a darkhorse manowar on my 2015 ultra limited 103. I went with the dark horse due to my comp was worn out and the darkhorse can be rebuilt and you dont even have to take it off the bike to do it. I figured if you have to fix it once, you might as well put best in it. I have almost 50k on my bike and have no plans on getting rid of it.

[@BlockheadMoto]

"if you have to fix it once, you might as well put best in it." Agreed! But also, that's a slippery and potentially expensive slope 😄

[@dormantmenace]

My 2015 fxdl comp wore out around 33,000 sounded like marbles in a can of spray paint.

[@expandingourhorizons9455]

@@BlockheadMoto that's very true!

[@allanespiritu3]

I’m honestly surprised the comp lasted even this long at the kind of power Godzilla makes and with the way everyone has ridden this bike. The stock transmission holding up this long is also shocking. Keep up the horsepower science 👊🏽

[@BlockheadMoto]

Agreed! We expected to break major components way sooner tbh. Bit of a testament to Harley-Davidson 🤘

[@2kanchoo]

@@BlockheadMotoI’d say more luck than a testament. Considering the many many many many people that have had a comp go stock or just with intake exhaust and cam.

[@robertlumsden942]

Really nice to hear your comments on the stock compensator. you are so right - if you bike is stock it should be fine. and it just testifies how well it is based on your bike and the power that it has. good job guys.

[@lesmurad8467]

Doesn’t the Man O War remove the cushion you get with the stock or Star compensator?

[@ryanm8456]

Chris, thanks for explaining all the differences. It helps to have a better understanding of what it does and what happens.

[@N6J6R6]

SIC! Gettig the Star. Do still recommend the stock ratcheting tensioner over anything else?? I don't think the Baker option works on the later model Softails..

[@jmmebine]

That was actually a really good way to explain AC-DC. THX.

[@Beertjebas81]

I would like to know if there are some decent mechanics in my neck of the world (netherlands) I really appreciate the way you communicate about product quality on youtube and still don't knock on wich brand one should choose. You only speak on you're experience with it and that's why i want to praise you guys. Kudos!!

[@tcb8295]

Definitely not bad at all for a stock comp with that much power. Thanks for the video.

[@BlockheadMoto]

For sure, we were surprised as well!

[@importedjohn400]

Broke mine at 15.8k a few weeks ago with my 114 roadglide making 120hp 130tq. wasn’t even beating on it when it let go just crusing in 6th about 65

[@dustinalexander1829]

Good questions justin. Very much appreciate them.

[@Wolfpack6D]

Thanks to Josh for wearing that Galway from Boston Scally, I wear mine almost every day. It is my favorite one.

[@emeryhvac1023]

What are you roughly looking at price wise for an upgraded comp job?

[@shaneconwayyy]

I had to have my springs replaced in my comp not too long ago. A long with my clutch baring and the labor from that (cause the parts were like 50$ was 650. So I would assume it'd be similar to that plus the cost of the compensator. So maybe like 1200..

[@IronManMoto]

comp ramp is around 400

[@trentmoto]

I broke the comp in my 2020 Lowrider S last year. Luckily the warranty company covered it. Acted like it was in neutral in any gear, then wouldn’t start again after shut off.

[@woode310]

This is awesome, been waiting for more science and education. Like Justin was talking about I had been planning on asking these questions the next time I could improve my bike.

[@jaredkish8716]

Goldzilla is an OG 🤘🙌

[@justinsutherland7214]

Great video guys. My wife's compensator went out on her stock 2022 Lowrider S. Locked up just like yours did. Crazy though yours handled all that power for so long. She only had 7k on her bike. Luckily Harley took care of all of it under warranty.

[@seabass_m]

Blockhead, crew and other fans I am in need of knowledge. My 2008 Roadking 96ci stock motor with 35,xxx miles has begun to make a grinding noise on startup, now when it’s a cold fresh start it will start with no hesitation and no grinding. Let’s say i start it up fresh cold start and go to gas it up, or even going to the gym for two hours, the time it’s off and warm it will give me the grinding noise and the starter and motor will continue to turn over until it either starts or i pull in the clutch to take away some of the stress on start up, i have read that the compensator and starter should probably both be replaced at the same time but im not entirely sure if its the starter or the clutch basket where the starter gear is working with the clutch basket gear. please correct me if im wrong, and any advice would be appreciated. thank you in advance!

[@dormantmenace]

My stock comp on my 2015 fxdl failed at about 33,000. With just a stage one and tuner. I had stock auto tensioner still in there and tend to roll off hard from high rpm in San diego twistys. So it probably just overtightened the chain. They will eat up slack under hard engine braking. It didn't shatter. I just wore out. Was still tightened to spec. But was clanking around badly like marbles in a can of spray paint.

[@toomey2wheels247]

What do you recommend on the twin cam?

[@rogerkennedy8849]

Put a baker comp in mine works great

[@ianrobertson9968]

Very useful info, thanks ! . Love the Saltire backdrop .

[@finnsgarageLLC]

You ever try the cycle ram comps? Those are great quality as well

[@9secfxr]

FYI- I broke the Man O War but it was the older version. Sent it back and they said yup it’s no good, and they were really cool and sent me a brand new one-newest version. Went with the Star comp and new Man O War is on the shelf. Star working great with Biggy HP-

[@kylepaquette7533]

Have you guys ever used the PSR CHAIN tensioners ? And if you have how do you like them

[@Dyna_NL]

Dope shirt Justin! What kind of bar&shield shirt is that? Look like a bigger logo and a better quality cotton?

[@JCunningham21]

I have a Man-O-War with a Hayden tensioner. i dont notice any noise. 133hp 152tq 128ci stage 3. I have a 131 on order. doing a CR515 cam.

[@swarm270]

always love the content. from down under Australia

[@_el-chino1574]

I recently swapped my compensator for a BDL sprocket comp recommended by my mechanic. I don’t see much online about them. Any input on them?

[@kennethehassard5586]

I have a dark horse manowar comp installed, with in 3000 miles the main breeing failed, have a Baker transmission with taller 5th and 6th gear in it best thing I ever did for my 2018 107

[@LilSquirrelly]

Are you guys planning on doing exhaust for the XL1200 bikes?

[@CactusJack252]

They are. They mentioned it before

[@shaunruark6715]

Do they make them for twin cam?

[@jonminonno9046]

Check with Rick’s electrical for stator rebuild

[@williamferril3274]

Thanks for the tutorial Chris n Justin. More betterer lol

[@juanhuttoe4517]

Man chris loving the hats, boston scally?

[@JoeFurtado-xv5no]

I put a dark horse in my street glide doesn’t make any noises tightened up my primary 7k on it now runs great

[@Jazzmozes]

Great info, Thanks fellas.

[@gambietti]

Great video, this is one stock part I was concerned with but with 114hp/136tq and 5k miles, looks like I can leave it alone for awhile

[@BigNorv_]

So I’ve been watching your videos off and on for the past couple years. Now idk if I missed it or you answered it so I’m very sorry if this has been answered. But has anything happened with the blue elephant?

[@BlockheadMoto]

Something has happened! Filming the process, not sure how long the project will take, but we'll be sure to release the vid when it's ready 👍

[@Hagien666]

Great episode love these guys Keep goin

[@jeffsoyk6994]

After you added the stronger part, what is the next weak link ?

[@ThomasLee-ss4bv]

A 44 years master tech here. The manawar is best as a street comp. Handles loads of power but not as good as a star if you want to hammer on it. The star does take more abuse but that's not what the man o war is designed for.

[@josephcivita1450]

2 and 1 is the way to run. I run a Supertrap 2 into 1 on my built FXR and my built Road King

[@KeViNMCMXXCIX]

Lol, actually this is actually hilarious you guys. 😆 So excited that something broke. 😆

[@GJSfTec]

What about the Baker Comp?? Whats your opinion/experience??

[@naythanjones2320]

I just got one for my low rider st. It’s loud! Contrary to fxr division’s description on there website that’s it’s “quieter “ I thought some thing was messed up and took it all apart and I guess that’s how it is. Rides great

[@finnsgarageLLC]

What made you inspect the strator?

[@Ridingon3TN]

my 19 triglide had it happen at 19k and limped it to the house which was a mile down the road but didn't have anywhere to stop and leave the bike on the side of the road. Seems to be a extremely normal issue though sadly of the compensator's going out. Oh yeah ended up with a new motor under warranty because it ended up in the entire motor from what the dealership told me good thing I had a few days left on the warranty when it happened. So been crossing my fingers it won't happen again but I do know now what it sounds and feels like when it goes though..and honestly though the more I see people with this issue on the m8s I very well might upgrade it before it strands me somewhere.

[@ryanr4181]

i know everyone says stalk Harley parts are junk but there really not everyone now is about POWER lets get 200 HP YEEAAHH.. not everyone is about that we buy a Harley for what it is and 100% stalk is what it's made for my Father has a old Evo 1996 he has 134,000 miles all stalk with pipes it you leave you're bike alone and just ride it live you're life you will get many many miles.. for me i can care less about how much HP i have what does it matter i ride a 21 street glide with a 475 Cam and outlaw 2 into 1 and i have 46K running Great..and BTW i learned how to ride watching you BlockHead!!

[@ericvinciguerra6712]

Not sure how much detail you can/want to give but I was wondering what the difference is between the blockhead and stealths pipe. What did y’all change?

[@BlockheadMoto]

We work closely with Stealth on multiple different aspects of manufacturing and design. As Stealth says, we’ve helped “put our secret sauce” into it. Some of it people will see (like incoming BHM mfg heat shields,) or some of the finer details, people won't see (like wide band o2 angles for tuning.) 👍🏼

[@ericvinciguerra6712]

@@BlockheadMoto thanks! I can’t remember if blockhead said the turn out WAS longer or just if he wanted it longer?

[@SmOoThYwOoDy]

How much are your star compensator?

[@BrokenFeather78]

Add a link to the exhaust systems in the description!

[@zerophucks1563]

Do you still have the Thundermax on Goldzilla? I just got one for sportster 1200 and was wondering longevity of reliability

[@mkb3580]

With all of the horsepower that you guys build… Why do you not use a compensator eliminator?…good videos by the way…very well explained…thank you!

[@h.rroden8312]

Would the Dark Horse compensator increase torque and horsepower possibly?

[@benodie02760]

Good video, thanks.

[@adventuresofkeyfob9849]

The comp on my ST went out under 1k miles. Stock 117 .

[@hunterbartels2509]

So did you shave the inner primary or remove it? I’m bout to do mine in my 08 96”

[@BlockheadMoto]

Removed it to install the new stator / alternator, but no shaving or clearancing required since there was no damage.

[@nhzxboi]

Use plenty of rock-tight.

[@chrislehman9735]

I need a Blockhead exhaust for my 04 RK!!!

[@BlockheadMoto]

Yezzir! Incoming 🤘🏼

[@billyfinch7341]

I replaced my cap ramp with a Star racing, piece of mind, from what I understand if you beat the shit out of your bike get the Dark Horse, if you ride like a standard hooligan get the Star, the comp system from Harley is better than it ever was, check out Doc Harley wherein he explains the difference between previous years

[@FrankBonessa]

Good, now I'm not goung to worry about blowing 400 bucks on a new comp for my '23 117. I don't thrash it anyway.

[@KindredGh0st]

I have a 22rgl. The comp broke at 6k.

[@meanf1502]

The man of war is a great comp but star racing one is a great bang for your buck an I have a question did you do a videos on making gold villa run on e85 and do you have tire dressing on them avon tires or they look like avons

[@corymarable5520]

Any more touring exhaust in stock?

[@BlockheadMoto]

Coming soon! 🤘🏼

[@rebel_ltz]

My M8 just developed a weird metallic vibration from the left foot peg at engine braking. Should I open the primary, can it be the a comp?

[@BlockheadMoto]

Could be, that's the area the comp is in. Impossible to diag over comments section though, best to find a tech and diag in person 👍🏼

[@TheWingnut1999]

My stock one went out at about 45,000 miles with no modifications to the motor

[@pmdinaz]

Stator rebuilds: Rick's Motorsport Electrics. I've purchased several. One for a Honda and a few Suzukis, and they have been great.

[@johnmacias01]

Let’s get back to the build off‼️🤣

[@BlockheadMoto]

Incoming!

[@WEPACVO]

Shout out to Justin for the questions we all want to know! WEPA!🔥🔥🔥

[@farmerdude3578]

Shades ? So cool

[@MaDDRaBBiT6969]

GoldZilla is 1 SiCK fn bike!!! Thats the bike im after in ma dreamz.... On another note you guyz are super rad and would love to visit the shop for a meet greet if yall ever... and im ever wherever u guys are. I heard FL. I just bought my 1st Harley bout a week ago. 12 RoadGlide with a stage 4 😅😅😅

[@m3talc0re]

I blew up the compensator on my stock 117 motor at like 12k miles I think it was.

[@rednekchevyman]

My comp let go when I done my stage 1 lol at like 2000 miles then at 19500 my trans let go after doing a stage 2 3030 cam lol

[@TheIllustriousGroundpounder]

Custom Rewind Birmingham Alabama I don’t have their number small shop but quality work.

[@Ike_Iverson]

i had the same issue, I just keep replacing it, easy weak point to fix

[@kennethwise7108]

Just delete the dumb thing, I deleted mine over a year ago and have never been happier

[@SilverIndian]

How you delete it All the vibrations & torgue will not break other parts of transmission?

[@kennethwise7108]

@@SilverIndian mine has held up just fine. Granted, I'm only pushing 130hp/130tq but as long as you're not banging gears (shifting without a clutch) it will be fine.

[@thomasborger6548]

​@@kennethwise7108 did you go with a solid sprocket? I'll have to replace my SE comp eventually

[@kennethwise7108]

@@thomasborger6548 yep, Revolution Industries will hook you up

[@ralas72]

What happened to Pretty Vinny?

[@sickwideglide]

He went back to dealership life…where you been? Lol

[@williamsaldanah3554]

Love the Scottish flag Definitely a like and sub!!

[@geraldsilveira8369]

Stock should be fine if it's not being raced or road hard.

[@scotsman9490]

broke more stuff

[@wooddawg4868]

Anything made by man can be broken. Now if you beat a bike up like you guys do, it does not happen to a regular rider like myself.

[@Wreckingcrew909]

Kruesi on your Compensator

[@BlockheadMoto]

We broke it the day before Kruesi got here, so we had to rush to get it fixed so he could try out Goldzilla 😅

[@Wreckingcrew909]

@@BlockheadMoto Hell yeah! And he definitely did!!!

[@Evanador]

I broke my compensator about a month ago on my 21 low rider s with about 3k miles on it.

[@DanBeanner-zo3ms]

Baker comp is top of heap. No questions ask.

[@DefinitelyNotMyron]

Noti gang!

[@BlockheadMoto]

Yee!

[@Paul20661]

*howdy* 🤠

[@joeplem5329]

If that's what a stock comp. Can handle then mine will last 3 lifetimes since my 2011 dyna street bob makes only 106hp and 122tq and I don't even remotely beat on it like you do to goldzilla!!!

[@CactusJack252]

Why not just do a comp delete? I think that would be an interesting video

[@robertrodrigue8513]

you dont see that stupid part on a japanese bike there is no chain to move the clutch

[@ride1400fast]

Don't often see jap bike thumper here. 1 nobody cares. 2 if you have no understanding of the engineering be quiet. 3 I own harley and metric they are SUPPOSED to be different. 4 harley dealer network keeps riders relatively connected to a source of parts in the USA without a 7 day minimum wait. 5 be a Japanese bike elitist elsewhere. 😂

[@IronManMoto]

definitely you don't need 160 to break that :)

[@steventhouchalanh7596]

Mine lasted to about 28k on my 2021 fxlrs in June 2023 replaced it with dark horse man o war it was my daily and I beat that thing up

[@garymcgraw]

It’s because u let Ryan ride it

[@BlockheadMoto]

Broke before Ryan rode it 😘

[@brandonbass389]

My comp broke with less than 2k miles. When I took it apart the last spring plate closest to the comp was installed wrong... The type of replacement you go with is going to be determined by your riding style. If you ride slow below 2k RPMs go billet comp or Man O War. If you are always above 2k RPMs look into a comp eliminator....

[@SilverIndian]

Comp. Eliminator....do you know any brand to take a look ?

[@brandonbass389]

@Rider_on_Indian I used an Evo Industries on mine.

[@finnsgarageLLC]

You should never be below 2k rpms in any situation, you’re just lugging the engine at that point.

[@brandonbass389]

​I totally agree. People still do it though.

[@havocd]

I've been trying to call but no answer lol 😅😂

[@BlockheadMoto]

Closed on the weekends for riding, hit us up via the form on the site and we'll get back to ya once we're in office! 🤘 www.BlockheadGarage.com

[@havocd]

😂 but I called during the week lol😅

[@jaysoncruz9682]

Can we git some riding videos

[@HarleysRnarleys]

Krusi broke your bike 😂

[@BlockheadMoto]

Broke before Kruesi rode it, but he probably would have, lol

[@HarleysRnarleys]

@@BlockheadMoto oh my bad the timeline of the video was after he rode it so I was like he broke it definitely lol