Your Next Burger Could Be Made With Microbes

Fermentation is a natural process that humans have been hacking for millennia. Now, scientists are customizing the process to revolutionize the future of food with alternative proteins.
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When you hear ‘fermentation’, you may think of the spice of bubbly kimchi, the smell of rising bread, or the tang of a good beer. These techniques have been part of human life for millenia. But today, fermentation is being hacked for the food of the future.
Those tiny microbes are helping us solve the global challenge of how to produce more and more food for more and more people…and we’re not just talking about stuff like bread. Like one of my favorite bacterial genuses, Lactobacillus, let’s break this down. When microorganisms like bacteria or fungi do fermentation, they’re breaking down some kind of sugar, like glucose, into smaller building blocks-it's how they make energy for themselves. But we‘ve been harnessing that process since the dawn of civilization, using these bacteria-and their byproducts-to make tasty stuff for ourselves, too.
When it comes to food, there are three main types of this process:
Lactic acid fermentation, which is used to make things like yogurt, pickles, and sourdough bread.
Ethanol/alcohol fermentation, which is used to make things like wine, beer, and more.
Acetic acid fermentation, which makes things like vinegars and kombucha
When we talk about fermentation for the FUTURE of food, we mean something a little different.
#food #foodscience #microbes #science #seeker #elements
Read More:
Fermentation: The New Game-Changer For Alternative Proteins?
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All proteins have genes, which are specific sequences of DNA, and all organisms can understand the same genetic code. To create an animal-free version of milk proteins, the company introduced animal genes, which they found catalogued in online scientific databases, to another organism.
Fermentation can help build a more efficient and sustainable food system - here’s how
www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/1...
But demand for food and protein is only going to grow. By 2050, projected demand for protein is set to nearly double globally as incomes rise and the population reaches an estimated 10 billion.
Biotechnology could provide an environmentally more sustainable alternative to egg white protein production
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"According to our research, this means that the fungus-produced ovalbumin reduced land use requirements by almost 90 per cent and greenhouse gases by 31-55 per cent compared to the production of its chicken-based counterpart."
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[@qqq1701]

Normally I'm completely uninterested in "meat alternatives" but this stuff sounds really cool. I would give it a try.

[@27forlife]

It would be important in country's were meat is scarce

[@lylelaney8270]

Is this correct considered GMO?

[@andyreznick]

Thanks for letting us know what these sneaky, little microbes are up to!

[@GalactusOG]

Lock Them Up!

[@gregoryallen0001]

lock that comma up 🙊

[@Konman804]

Until this stuff can be cheaply made on a massive scale, it's not gonna be the future of anything.

[@Future_Pheonix]

But animal meat will eventually start getting very expensive anyway.. I imagine that eventually it'll meet somewhere in the middle before more people buy it and then the price starts dropping. The question is when.

[@krishankyadav8486]

@@Future_Pheonix with climate change and food insecurity on the rise it's not that far into the future tbh

[@Future_Pheonix]

@@krishankyadav8486 The question is how these industries will keep up with these economic changes. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

[@IronmanV5]

Now I want a beer.

[@GalactusOG]

I was just thinking that. I'm about to grab a sixer of Sam Addams. What are going to drink?

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

I wouldn't mind trying it, I had a meatloaf made out of impossible meat, it was just like the actual thing, also a healthier diet would be nice, my family eat a lot of food with carbs.

[@megamanx466]

I agree and if it took as long to digest. Meat in the stomach or gut takes a while to break down usually. 🤔

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

@@megamanx466 another reason to eat this new type of plant based meat.

[@saulgoodman2018]

Impossible meat have more salt than real meat.

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

@@saulgoodman2018 I knew a lot of chemicals were involved, but I am surprised to hear that. Maybe we can fix that by experimenting, we already have a natural seaweed that can taste like bacon (it's called Dulse), I think the video mentioned something about making protein naturally from bacteria or some other natural plant based material, maybe we can find away to get the taste of different meats, while having it be healthy, and low in calories. Seems like we're not that far, telling from the video.

[@haroldwood1394]

The cost of my sparingly-used soy milk is already two to four times the cost of cow's milk (mainly, I think, because of subsidies to the dairy industries, though I'm happy to be corrected). If products such as meat could be lab-produced without environmental, health and ethical problems associated with animal agriculture, I'd gladly try them.

[@kenshelby7801]

Wow. I think it depends where you live… my almond and soy is less than a euro, milk 2-4 euros

[@victorcarrillo2151]

Have you tried making your own soy milk? Soy beans are pretty cheap

[@haroldwood1394]

@@victorcarrillo2151 Thanks, Victor. Yes, I've tried it. Let's say that my results were less than inspiring (godawful). My homemade oat milk was a little better. Best wishes to you.

[@freshairkaboom8171]

Oat milk from home is probably the cheapest drink besides water you can make. I love it :D

[@someguy2135]

@@freshairkaboom8171 Actually, it is free, since you can eat the oats after you "milk" them.

[@foreropa]

Talking about this kind of products, I love the beyond meat burgers but the problem I´m having with this is that it has 9 times of sodium than the normal meat, that´s a big issue (380 mg vs 75mg). But I like it more than normal meat so I try it time to time.

[@AltruisticWarrior]

I used to have an issue with swelling from sodium and water retention. I switched to keto and more importantly, fasting. When a person fasts, the body eliminates water and salt faster ironically. Needless to say, I can have a meal full of all the salt I want with no more issues, when I eat. Might be something to look into! A relative of mine has heart failure and their heart function went from 12% to 46% over a 6 month period of intermittent fasting. A team of doctors argued that it was impossible yet after running the tests multiple times, it was.

[@butterchuggins5409]

Your next burger could be a Hunsberger.

[@boombot934]

Beautiful technology! Wonderful science🔬 and engineering👨‍🔧!

[@michaelcstachiw]

If you leave it out too long it’ll only get more microbes. It’s a feature.

[@oliverallen5324]

Just watched a piece by WIOS on microplastics found in 17/22 study participants’ blood. I’m not eating lab grown food. Plain meat and eggs for me, thank you.

[@jhunt5578]

What you wrote doesn't make sense. Did the participants of the study eat lab meat? Microplastics are already in our water and food.

[@BioTechproject27]

Oh so you think the food the animals eat that lies around and collects microplastic is microplastic free or the animal meat itself as it sits out in the open and accumulates particles? Nah, if we're being realistic, and if anything, the lab grown products would be cleaner.

[@StudioSkiesAndWater]

what

[@antenorlinhares642]

I would totally try it. Great video!!

[@DeeS8]

I used to eat nato and yogurt , I’m sure we wouldn’t be struggling to eat some other fermentation products

[@Tak3aStepBack]

Yeah I have not been getting notified on your uploads for years. This channel is definitely getting suppressed

[@thewildwelsh478]

So we can now milk mushrooms?

[@noytelinu]

I read that as Mc-Robes and was confused for a second.

[@Hex-Mas]

I collect Spores, molds, and fungus.

[@klondike444]

I know that's a quote, but who from?

[@GojosBackHand]

Great idea

[@drstone7014]

How about the fibers Stemcells grow on from plant matter

[@Moepowerplant]

"Would you eat it?" Free-range/Organic > Precision fermented "lab-grown" food >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conventional industrially-farmed food

[@StudioSkiesAndWater]

there is practically no free range for consumers. Less that 1% of animal farms are not factory farming.

[@cabudagavin3896]

acetic acid fermentation produces vinegar, vinegar is used to produce pickles... but that process is lactic acid fermentation...? anybody know how that works?

[@RR-us2kp]

Acetic acid fermentation follows lactic acid fermentation in vinegar production

[@cabudagavin3896]

@@RR-us2kp oh thank you very much

[@archangelmichael1978]

So, we're going to start cloning steaks from cows?

[@GalactusOG]

They*

[@kurtmill9080]

I don't think this is cloning. It's more like isolating a sample of cells and growing it in an ideal way to produce a project. There's no genetic intervention as far as Im aware. We've already been genetically modifying meat to maximize taste, sight, shape, texture etc. All for profit.

[@hemgosalia3677]

Please make a video on the experiment which was proposed that can prove that information is the fifth state of matter....that would be so cool

[@alexgewecke9576]

This kind of stuff is cool, but I don’t think this fermentation process is going to be able to remove the negative health consequences from the products. It might reduce some of them, but the healthiest diet is and probably always will be a whole food plant based one.

[@matthewpepperl]

if humans had never started eating meat in the past we would probably still be swinging in trees all the extra protein was needed to develop brains like ours

[@alexgewecke9576]

@@matthewpepperl This is *heavily* contested. But even if it was true, it doesn’t change the fact that animal products clog our arteries.

[@GarudaLegends]

a WFPB diet is not the healthiest diet bro. lol. it is a healthy omnivore diet.

[@alexgewecke9576]

@@GarudaLegends Why, then, do the longest living populations eat little to no animal products, then?

[@brightbite]

Hey, ants do it- they make food from bacteria! We need to take cues from them! Sign me up for a McMicroburger!

[@Gold63Beast]

Is the ice cream song used in the background of this video?

[@lekiscool]

Yes.

[@skybluskyblueify]

Do any of these have the potential to replace fetal bovine serum [that must come from the fetal cow] to help grow the petri dish meat cells?

[@nikilragav]

Does fetal bovine serum need to be extracted more than once?

[@unoriginalname4321]

Precision fermentation can

[@XenXenOfficial]

For me, if it tastes like meat & cheaper I'll buy it lmao

[@fereyfazil2298]

is there a special microbe to produce for example your own body for my own home? in a senthetic manner.

[@cragadino]

The milk wouldnt cost 4x if animal agriculture wasnt subsidised and those subsidies went to meat free agriculture instead

[@plasticfantast1k]

Yep,bring it on,yummy!!!!

[@asundling360]

This was really cool, hope for the sake of the world population that this becomes an option. Me on the other hand would like to keep hunting and fishing for my meat.

[@heatseeker9573]

@@RhizometricReality you can join the fisherman class whenever you want, lol

[@mon5872]

@@heatseeker9573 as long as fish and other forms of seafood survive overfishing, shrinking amounts of water in fresh water lakes and rivers, rising water temperatures, and toxic waters~

[@asundling360]

@@mon5872 well pollution in nature is rarely due to the fisherman or the hunter as they are aware of the costs of destroying a habitat.

[@mon5872]

@@asundling360 correct as you are, that doesn't stop the 1% ultra-rich overlords and their masses to start caring or making any sort of sustainable changes. All "they" care about is $$$$$... Sales, Consumption, Waste...😔

[@asundling360]

@@RhizometricReality imo people need to leave the cities and move closer to nature and live more of and for the land.

[@simeonadonai]

Ever expanding population… “science”

[@thebarkingmouse]

Or it could be beef raised sustainably on natural grasslands.

[@jonodan1]

Doesnt solve the emissions though? ... For the record i dont actually care and i eat meat every night, im just saying...

[@thebarkingmouse]

@@jonodan1 Grassland are where bovines naturally evolved & grasslands are healthiest when there are bovine on them, and groundhogs under. And where people are planning to build solar farms, how do they plan to keep the grass down? Lawn mowers & weed eaters? Or cattle that will handle that for you. Bonus meat & leather. Personally I'd have to see a very serious analysis to convince me lab grown meat substitutes are less carbon intensive. All those buildings, equipment, chemicals, people...

[@matthewpepperl]

probably a 5x the cost too

[@BioTechproject27]

@@thebarkingmouse Sure but that method is far from being able to provide for enough people, at least if you want it to be similar to what we have now. Hopefully this tech will it make it available for more people, alongside other methods like e.g. insect farms.

[@ljre3397]

Yum cricket flour.

[@jessiferri2922]

Personally, I am enjoying almond milk much more than cow milk. I wonder, would that be something that could be cost efficient to mass produce at a competitive level to traditional cow milk?

[@Gaming_Vegan_Ape]

Oat milk is best taste wise, and uses less resources.

[@jessiferri2922]

@@Gaming_Vegan_Ape nice. I used to like rice milk too, but a little bit pricey.

[@tyd8077]

It's already been mass produced. The alternative milk section of the grocery is nearly always as big as the regular milk section from what I've seen.

[@chrisspamtest]

finally, I can try human meat without repercussion

[@andrewserna28]

Yes 👍🏽

[@h7opolo]

bacterial tetrahydrocannabinol

[@brianstarr]

I'm down. Send me some samples of the naturally congealed fiber burgers. Maybe call it something like Almost Bacon Burger. I think people will go for it if they think they are chewing a beer.

[@gr8bkset-524]

The subsidies and environmental damages of current meats and dairy products are not included in the price.

[@makeitcold6649]

I would try the meat from cow cells but long term studies would need to be done first. We are so new to this tech and even our understanding of DNA that I doubt they can get it perfect the first time

[@ohanlonj8476]

Bru f*ck your long term studies, you looking at long term studies to see if the Doritos and monster your eating/ drinking has affects on your health 😂

[@georgeorwell8575]

ok sheep

[@makeitcold6649]

@@georgeorwell8575 Mmmmm....lambchops

[@AltruisticWarrior]

I imagine it would be totally safe. Factoring in the risks from eating meat with different things like e.coli, or how much antibiotics are in the meat or contaminates in the water they consume, most likely way safer.

[@iroosevelt]

Yeah cool

[@alparslankorkmaz2964]

Nice video.

[@Bassotronics]

Could a centrifugal machine that spins the artificial meat around to simulate gravity work?

[@anywhereroam9698]

In space with no gravity it could be. Here on earth they can probably use real gravity. I think there’s more to the problem that needs more explanation to understand properly. I think it’s the structure part that’s important not the gravity part, since there’s gravity in the lab or factory.

[@Khannea]

Can I say out loud you look spectacular?

[@Nconstruct]

I will eat whatever tasts the best. If artificial meat does is I am only going to buy it from then on

[@GalactusOG]

That's not smart nor safe.

[@Sylnaya]

Has anyone else ever noticed that people like this person in the video never ever think about what are we going to do with the cows and the chickens that were raising for food if we replace them with what she’s talking about what happens to those animals how do we “dispose of them“ humanely do we just turn them loose and let them starve let them run wild and potentially become pests the way chickens can and do in places in the country where chickens roam wild and have no controls so what do we do with these Cast off animals this is something they never ever think about

[@eurusforecast1472]

What about eating them?

[@lexruptor]

When you think fermented, sure Kimchi, but when you think fermented and EDIBLE you certainly do not.

[@RR-us2kp]

If it's healthy, tasty, sustainable and cheap, I'll eat it. But it has to be all four.

[@pepitogamer9333]

of course i will, today i'm waiting to eat 3d printed meat but i'm definitely want to taste this new kind of fermented products .

[@nikilragav]

So are we always eating the microbes themselves? Or just the molecules they're producing

[@RR-us2kp]

Both

[@solarwinds-]

I will be making my own burgers from now on. They taste better anyway.

[@Mrjrich37055]

Love the idea, love the videos let them coming

[@aourzy]

Chalega!

[@plasma8321]

As long as it’s going to be more expensive than actual meat. It’s never going to kick off

[@gregorydittrich1563]

Hopefully it won't be forever

[@stevemonkey6666]

My NEXT burger? I think not....

[@PucaAtPlay]

I'd eat the shot outta this!

[@GalactusOG]

I hope this process is at least healthier than that nasty overly processed poison "Meat substitute" stuff.

[@tyd8077]

Spoiler: it's not.

[@BioTechproject27]

@@tyd8077 and you know this how, exactly?

[@tyd8077]

@@BioTechproject27 common sense. Our bodies have evolved to work with the foods we've been eating for millenia. Whole, real, minimally processed food closer to the source is almost always healthier than something that has to be highly processed or invented in a lab. It's not really up for debate

[@BioTechproject27]

@@tyd8077 Your body really doesn't give a damn about where a protein comes from. It's treated the same by enzymes. So if you genetically engineer organisms to produce stuff like collagen, you body processes it the exact same way. This engineering is already used in other processes, e.g. in how we produce insulin. Your body doesn't care. That is common sense.

[@tyd8077]

@@BioTechproject27 protein is protein, sure, what are the other byproducts created in this lab grown specimen and in what quantities would people be consuming them? Zoom out.

[@mxkxveli5616]

Im all for changing, but in my country lab grown meat is very expensive. We know the impact and the resources required for meat in my country, but it’s currently damn near impossible to progress as a country.

[@User24x]

Go Vegan.

[@simoncleret]

Don't worry, they'll just make normal meat too expensive as well and then all the poor people can be forced onto inadequate diets like they're medieval peasants again. "I do say, that tramp is far too low class to be allowed to spread *butter* on his bread!"

[@rustyshack1707]

Just get a steak. From a cow. I recommend a prime rib

[@mxkxveli5616]

@Narja in some countries, my friends live in, it is as cheap as the meat itself because their country has progressed to the point of it becoming mass produced, and the government also funds it, theyve aso cut down emissions by 70%

[@mxkxveli5616]

@@rustyshack1707 you don’t understand my point, Yes i love meat i eat it everyday, but i am open minded to new things and open for change to progress as a person and for the better of the world. Lab grown meat tastes exactly like real meat and ive tried it. But it was expensive. The meat industry contributes to like 80% of the world pollution and resources. The water, the cow fart( crazy but it is the truth) and lot more, whereas lab grown meat is more sustainable in every-way, until it becomes adopted everywhere, it wont be affordable. Im not bashing the meat industry, but that’s the reality, of the resources required for people to eat meat.chicken cow pork etc .

[@MMMM-sv1lk]

Eating microbes makes me feel like a Macrophage... 😏

[@Charles-js3ri]

Don't we already make enough to feed the globe. It's not so much a question of how much food but how to get it to people. Our problem is food waste from political and economic causes. This might help somewhat. Or hopefully, it could lessen food production pollution.

[@adamspencer3702]

well said. it would also decrease the land, water, and feed needed to make meat and other animal products. Not to mention it would disincentivize agricultural methods that abuse animals since that would be more expensive and less productive.

[@truthwatcher2096]

No we don't make enough meat to feed everyone as much as the average American consumes. In fact, the idea that anyone can have as much meat as they want is insane in practice. People need to stop being gluttonous and start getting proteins out of other sources

[@Charles-js3ri]

@@truthwatcher2096 Excuse me! When did I say anything about American proportions or meat specifically? I take umbrage with your calumnous words. It is a matter of fact that everyone could be fed an appropriate amount with what we currently have. If you want any clarifications, you're free to ask. Or do your own reading.

[@theblueone7295]

kinda late to bring up reducing pollution with this method. the damage is done. its just a matter of how humans cope with it.

[@EntrepreneurAi99]

Toughbuilt Industries TBLT STOCK to the moon soon 🔥

[@TinganHamada86]

Kita hadir lagi nonton..👍👍👍

[@BigRalphSmith]

Ultimately, as this video reiterates, the problem isn't the science or the technology, it's economics and marketing.

[@lylelaney8270]

This video might have but the issue of the safety of consumption still being raised and debated.

[@BigRalphSmith]

@@lylelaney8270 Well, there's a huge difference between "raised and debated" and "demonstrated". And, we eat these same microbes and their byproducts already. All the time in fact.

[@lylelaney8270]

@@BigRalphSmith "raised and debated" by the academics in the respective field and not by people in social media sphere who think they know better because they heard it on some KZbin videos. In order for them to instruct the microbes to synthesize specific properties, they use genetic modifications and synthetic enzymes and proteins. Demonstration of it can be done is not the same as it is safe for consumption especially for long term. There aren't many long term studies have been done on the effects of meat substitute consumption. Also, please don't be condescending. I'm not a 3rd grader.

[@BigRalphSmith]

@@lylelaney8270 Then stop expressing yourself like a third grader. I wasn't speaking of a demonstration of it's possibility, that's long past. I'm talking about a demonstration of it's viability and safety. On a side note, are you an antivaxxer? I ask because this conversation seems vaguely familiar.

[@lylelaney8270]

@@BigRalphSmith There aren't any long term studies done on consumption of any of the synthetic meat substitutes. So I have no idea where you get the "demonstration of the safety" from? Nobody in this entire world have been consuming any of those for more than 2 years on regular basis or studies done on any of them if any. As your assumptions of me being anti-vaxer, let just say I had my third dose/booster last month.

[@theninziparadox]

This made me more excited for meat alternatives. I'm all for more food diversity.

[@En_theo]

Yeah, as if they're going to test it thoroughly. Mark my word, it will take 10 or 20 years before a study proves that these food have insidious side effects. Just like sugar, cigarettes and what not, it will all be a question of money.

[@GalactusOG]

Current meat alternatives are the most overly processed poisons on the market, have you seen how that stuff is made? If you don't want to eat meat just eat vegetables and fruits and other natural foods. Stay away from processed food.

[@Future_Pheonix]

@@En_theo As if the processed meat full of hormones and diseases people buy is healthy.. Most food bought in stores and supermarkets are very processed and unhealthy and the process of transferring them also has its effects..

[@AndyS52]

@@Future_Pheonix not true

[@johnchesterfield9726]

@@AndyS52 What part of what they said wasn’t true?

[@lifeinru]

I WILL NOT EAT THE BUGS

[@rjung_ch]

I'd try it for sure.

[@ZanKraken]

I mean, vegan milks already cost 4x as much as cow milk does, do I don't see why price would be a deterrent.

[@BioTechproject27]

Because it would be better if people with lower incomes could afford it too

[@ZanKraken]

@@BioTechproject27 Of course it would be better, but that never stopped anyone from selling or producing almond milk, or soy milk, at the same pricepoint as they said for the engineered milk.

[@tectorgorch8698]

IT'S CHICKEN LITTLE!

[@soeinspast4096]

...and you will be happy

[@dnaann1867]

Where is her mic

[@emaarredondo-librarian]

If you want protein but don't want to eat meat, there's plenty of it in many vegetables, legumes, grains and nuts. If you crave the taste of meat, you can eat meat on occasion, because too much meat is bad for your health. Forcing microbes to so somersaults to pretend being meat is a waste of resources that could be used in improving the distribution of food: most of it goes to waste. Also, research on how to take advantage of what is considered waste in food production (fruit and veggie peels, organ meat, bones, etc.) would mean more food and less garbage.

[@krishankyadav8486]

Sooner or later we will need to approach this anyways. With food insecurity being higher than it has been in decades in parts of the world and climate change on the rise, it will just not be sustainable to grow meat at all. And we do not want to attempt making food which does not depend upon climate or extensive land and water when we have already run out of these things. We have been these making microbes "do somersaults" for decades now and it has been successfully giving us everything from insulin to vaccines. Even though it sounds like a great solution to just make sure more of the animal is consumable you still need to consider that to eat an animal you need to start raising it years prior to when it will be consumed. In one cow's lifetime it will eat the caloric equivalent of 10 times more than what we will recieve if we just eat the cow (because most of it goes to sustaining the cow rather than making sure it stores it all for when we want to feast on it). We have a dire need for insulin nowadays. If instead of making bacteria do somersaults we just kept on trying to squeeze more of it out of pig pancreases like we used to, there is no way the availability OR the quality would have been comparable to what we have today.

[@GaasubaMeskhenet]

Gimme gimme

[@michaelshortland8863]

As long as it was tasty i would be happy to replace all my animal based products.

[@freeamericanthinker558]

No thank you.

[@paulomorbioarmwrestling986]

Armwrestling showwww Brasil 🇧🇷

[@illadeligut]

The solution is NOT in a lab, it's in nature. Those issues you discuss are not inherent to meat and dairy, they're a result of modern processes. Regenerative agriculture is the solution, it's not the cow it's the how

[@Farreach]

there would need to be a long term study on the impact it would have on us in the long run ... not just one lifetime how it would impact us generations down the road because this could be harmful also

[@BioTechproject27]

Of course, like with anything. However I think this has the potential of being a healthier diet, as it does not require antibiotics, hormones, etc to work. I'd gladly test it.

[@Farreach]

@@BioTechproject27 I mean I am all for a future of sustainability. I just don't want us as a society to get to a point where the damage is irreversible ..our food plays a huge part on how we evolve

[@BioTechproject27]

@@Farreach That is true, however I also think that natural evolution may play an even lesser role in the future as we discover more in genetics. I think that gene editing in humans is inevitable, at one point or another someone will break even more rules (looking at you, He Jiankui).

[@TheDrummingWarrior]

My go to at McDonald’s is the vegan burger, was expecting to hate it but it’s actually pretty nice

[@grecoconduris6716]

Some one told me the other day and I have not been able to verify it, so take it with a grain of salt and it probably applies to certain areas in certain countries, not everywhere. But when the calculation for the water needed to raise beef is calculated and is used in the climate change discussion and body of evidence, the water that falls on the ground of the pasture the cows are on is used and water within the grass the cows eat is also used. Their argument was they did not think this is a honest representation of the actual water needed to raise beef. Again no idea if this is true, I had a google and could find what they were talking about. And if is true, I am not educated enough to know if its a valid method. But I found it interesting, I also think if it is true and it is being misleading than that not helpful and it gives skeptics more reason to deny made made climate change.

[@canis2020]

As a meatoholic trying to use more of these kinda of products I can't tell you for a fact they are are not as tasty. A burger made with this stuff tastes stale and feels like potato pancakes.

[@jhunt5578]

Have you actually tried lab meat, or just plant based meat?

[@lylelaney8270]

I thought GMO was bad?

[@---iv5gj]

No the biggest hurdle is accessibility price. currently it's too damn expensive or just not easily accessed. make it cheap enough and put it in supermarkets in asia and i guarantee you it's a sold out

[@dipanjanghosal1662]

I'm highly skeptical

[@drstone7014]

Can't we grow organs from Stemcells . So why not a stake . A burger is grounded up anyway

[@MatAtMac]

Spam?

[@dailydoseofmedicinee]

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[@thli8472]

Let's call it a hunsburger.

[@RinkuMobile]

Nyc

[@Psychx_]

Actually, you need lots of antibiotics for protein mass production with GMOs or via cell culture in a bioreactor.

[@BioTechproject27]

How so? I imagine one would only need to sterilize the bioreactors and machinery as you don't want anything to survive other than your microorganisms. If anything you'd only need em if you mess up the initial sterilization or contaminate it. But in that case you'd probably need to start anew anyway.

[@Psychx_]

@@BioTechproject27 ABs are needed because bioreactors contain the perfect media for cultivating microorganisms and having a 100% sterile working environment isn't possible. The hardware, procedures and techniques that are being adapted for cell culture food production have been in use for decades in the pharmaceutical field (i.e. production of insulin, antibodies, etc.) and in everyday biotech lab-work. These decades of experience have shown that omitting antibiotics just doesn't work out as it cuts significantly into yields or may lead to contaminated products. When you make a bunch of artificial meat, it doesn't have an immune system, leaving you with no other choice than using these substances.

[@Comeback180]

I'll try it one time but if it's taste horrible inside my mouth, going back to the real thing. I'm a supporter or reducing climate change but I'm a fan of eradicating meat. There's better ways to encourage people to eat less meat, try alternatives to meat or reduce they're carbon footprint in other areas of life like go after corporations themselves instead of attacking meat.

[@Vector_Ze]

I would've been an enthusiastic customer for the likes of Beyond Meat and/or Impossible Foods YEARS ago, if their products were price competitive. Sadly, they're in another ballpark.

[@thebarkingmouse]

Grassland are where bovines naturally evolved & grasslands are healthiest when there are bovine on them, and groundhogs under. And where people are planning to build solar farms, how do they plan to keep the grass down? Lawn mowers & weed eaters? Or cattle that will handle that for you. Bonus meat & leather. Personally I'd have to see a very serious analysis to convince me lab grown meat substitutes are less carbon intensive. All those buildings, equipment, chemicals, people...

[@AndyS52]

they're also garbage nutritionally and for the environment

[@Vector_Ze]

@@thebarkingmouse The fact that you're posting his is proof that you have internet access. Learn to use it. The data you request is out there. I've read it, it's been there for years. But, I'm not feeling energetic enough to spoon feed you.

[@thebarkingmouse]

@@Vector_Ze The data are estimates based on a narrow part of production. Not actual data based on full stream, full scale production. The fact you don't know this means you are an activist, not a scientist. But feel free to keep slandering me. Thanks for making my point!

[@jasonb2123]

mine sure won't be. I buy my beef from the local butcher down the street :)

[@lordofnothing.]

now i'm hungry^^ 10/10 would absolutely eat.

[@GalactusOG]

Let me know how it goes.

[@cheesefries7436]

Get a chicken coop, some chickens, and a small garden. If everyone had that we'd all be fine. Big gov't, media, and banks want you dependent on this sort of nonsense. You can grow food in dirt. You don't need all these hoops to jump through.

[@heatseeker9573]

Not mine tho. MY next burger will be made out of meat

[@dermannindermenge2541]

I still like the idea of artificial meat. However, to get the full range of nutrients out of artificial meat, you would have to recreate nearly every step of the way of production, the organs of an animal would go irl. I mean, we know that grass fed beef is very healthy and factory soy fed meat-factory meat is... let's say, not that healthy. It's a very long way to go, before we even talk about, doing it in a way that's environmentally friendly and economically feasible. So I don't get my hopes up, seeing anything like a real, healthy replacement in my lifetime. But it's still nice that people work towards such a goal. The real focus should still be focused on the microbiome of the soil, since depletion in soil quality, due to intensive crop farming, is a way bigger issue.

[@Bobsry16]

Plant formulation of nutrients and proteins are inherently better though, along with bacteria and fungi.

[@dermannindermenge2541]

@@Bobsry16 I wouldn't go too deep into that topic, since the whole "What is healthy food?"-theme is toxic af and flooded with disinformation, by all kinds of different interest groups, allot of them "experts", allot of them corrupt to the bone, but I personally, strongly disagree. I would suggest, if you are really open to another perspective, you watch some of the information put out by Prof. Dr. Robert Lustig, who is one of the main influences of my opinion on the topic.