Isn't this the same for a college degree or any other training certification? When has any of these ever fully qualified someone for a specific role? Degrees and certifications indicate that the individual has foundational knowledge. In my experience working with many project and program managers on multiple multimillion-dollar projects, I've observed that they often lack an understanding of basic project management and stakeholder engagement. Given this, I would rather hire a PMP rookie who is eager to learn than someone with years of experience but limited understanding.
@guilleportАй бұрын
Are you Vietnamese?
@speeddev624211 күн бұрын
@@guilleport Are you White?
@charlesrumschlag1769Ай бұрын
Great video. I always looked at the cert, not only as a proof of "journey-level" experience, but a tool to achieve the interview. Selling yourself is on you. Love this.
@PMPwithRayАй бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@TimothyAllison122 күн бұрын
I have been a PM for 30 years, serving as PM, Sr PM, Program Manager, Portfolio Manager, PMO Director, Director of Operations and CEO. I am at the pinnacle of the industry and earn a top 3% six figure income, all without a PMP certification. I just passed the PMP exam for personal knowledge. Ray is spot on, I run into PMP certified PM’s all day long that cannot manage their way out of a wet paper bag. Trust me, if you fabricate your experience and secure a PMP based on that, without years of real PM exposure, you will be found out in less than 1 minute. There is no free lunch.
@PMPwithRay20 күн бұрын
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@Hayes61112 күн бұрын
You make some valid points but the title of the video is Click Bait. Using your reasoning I can safely say that many of the people who do not have a PMP and profess to be great PMs are not. I could go on and on about how I have worked on several 100M dollar projects, and have worked in Asia and Europe on projects, and taught hundreds of aspiring PMs blah blah make good money and blah blah. No one cares. I am surprised that a CEO needs to validate himself on youtube. The CEOs and other leaders I interface with let the actions and outcomes speak for themselves. The fact that you are encountering PMP certified PMs all day means your organization's hiring practice need to be updated so you can find strong PMPs.
@vardhanvs3 ай бұрын
We need more people like you on KZbin. This is what is required for any aspirant.
@PMPwithRay3 ай бұрын
Many thanks for your comment!
@yakubpatel43894 ай бұрын
Such a great explanation on PMP Certification. In short Certification will add value in your career, if you really learnt & applied skills in your PM Job.🎉
@PMPwithRay4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@sougata415829 күн бұрын
I am preparing for my PMP exam. I haven't LED/MANAGED projects yet but have had the experience of a project coordinator. I am finding value in the PMP coursework and intend to become a project manager some day but now I am unsure if I should write the exam. A little bit of advice would help. (I meet all the criteria on PMI website).
@PMPwithRay26 күн бұрын
Hello, please go for CAPM before PMP.
@ShivaBhat-j8s3 ай бұрын
Great explanation, PMP is not worthless but unrealistic expectations should be avoided. Most people just mug up and pass, instead of practicing its concepts ....
@PMPwithRay3 ай бұрын
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@ashmic252 ай бұрын
Mr. Ray, Please tell what is the solution then to be an efficient PM
@alfonsogarcia62142 ай бұрын
That's how reality needs to be communicated! No sugarcoating!
@PMPwithRay2 ай бұрын
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@CyberHackTHEAIАй бұрын
I agree with you 1000% , I have seen the similar situation at my current Job ,people lack the experience and even when asking some very basic questions ( some of them cannot even answer those) Interviewers are smart they will know right away if you are just making up things. I saw at least 8 recent candidates who got dropped and never even made it to the second interview.
@PMPwithRayАй бұрын
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@ramonhernandez1802Ай бұрын
The number one issue I have is relevant work experience as a PM. I have years of PM experience managing complex projects in the public sector at a nonprofit, but nothing that is relatable to tech. Do you have any suggestions?
@PMPwithRayАй бұрын
You should look out for opportunities in public sector at a non-profit because that is where your opportunity will be valued the most.
@saikatchakraborty5536Ай бұрын
PMBOK is more like giving you the knowledge and Strategy of a Project Managers. But it's up to you that how you are executing the PM Skills in real life which is more important than anything else. 😊
@PMPwithRay26 күн бұрын
Very true :)
@tonygovender38054 ай бұрын
I have come across pmp certification holder who passed the exam. But have less or no project management experience. Today you can get help passing the pmp with organization who help you pass by teaching you a system how to pass. You can write the pmp with learning the pmp mind set and probably pass the exams.
@PMPwithRay3 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your viewpoint.
@FrancescaMARCIANO-j4s15 күн бұрын
Very intelligent insight and I loved that you were candid and tell it like it is communication!
@PMPwithRay10 күн бұрын
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@RiaSia-nn3kzАй бұрын
I am maintenance guy. Can I apply for PMP for job change?
@GregDalin4 ай бұрын
I agree I have interviewed project managers for my team and I can pretty much call out the ones that are book trained/ focused or actually have world world experience. The PMP tells me they have knowledge, but not the experience sometimes like I had someone who was a wedding planner to go into a IT PM role... Unfortunately I know she qualified but doesn't mean it can all transfer over
@PMPwithRay4 ай бұрын
Many thanks for sharing your pov.
@jay____l4 ай бұрын
So if someone doesn't have the real world experience, how do they get that experience if nobody wants to give them a chance? lol pretty much sums up the job market.
@GregDalin4 ай бұрын
@@jay____l you shouldn’t be able to take or sit for the PMP without proven experience. You start from the bottom, getting experience and then move into those roles that requires a certification..
@jay____l4 ай бұрын
@@GregDalinYes, but not everyone can get assigned projects at their jobs to lead these initiatives, unless they are a project manager. I've been lucky to be part of projects where I've been involved in various aspects of the process groups, but haven't led every single project. In an interview, this would probably be a red flag because I and many other aspirants haven't led from start to finish on every project like what all these hiring managers expect.
@IanVidaurre2 ай бұрын
@@jay____l I got hired as a PM for a software development company. I utilized my prior experience in Management and a coding bootcamp certification (knowledge of software development lifecycle workflows) to get my foot in the door. I learned the PM trade the hard way, but in the end persevered and delivered 4 projects in my 3+ years at my current employer. Now, with the perspective gained in my practical work experience, I am now in a position to take this certification, with my employer covering the cost to join the profession as a PMP certified Project Manager.
@alloveryetstillАй бұрын
This is an excellent breakdown of ways pmp wont change a life. Thanks
@PMPwithRayАй бұрын
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@RobertBilvado3 ай бұрын
True. Never used or ask to get. Reason... The PMP curriculum and painstaking test has NOTHING to due with day-to-day work as a project manager.
@PMPwithRay2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts :)
@nikithacpadmanab78242 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the initiative to make such a video. I am working as a Quality Analyst in a support center and indirectly a part of Project Management and i have over all experience of 7 years. Do you think PMP is beneficial ?
@fabiohscamposАй бұрын
Very good and clarifying video!
@PMPwithRayАй бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@kambizchizari85562 ай бұрын
However, PMP is mentioned as an asset in many open PM positions. I believe it is the most recognized certification related to project management when applying for jobs.
@PMPwithRayАй бұрын
Hello, yes it is!
@trilllife4433Ай бұрын
I know several people who have the PMP certification with no degree and were hired because of the basic knowledge obtained from passing the exam. Companies will give you a chance if you truly have the desire and passion to become a PM. Most experience in any industry is gained on the job! PMP certification is extremely valuable today and will be for a long time!
@PMPwithRayАй бұрын
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@RobertJ-v5z3 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting this. The big takeaway here is that there aren’t any shortcuts to a highly successful career. It takes a lot of hard work and time to make it. Be humble, have an open mind, and try to learn as much as you can. It will all be worth it if you approach your career preparation this way.
@PMPwithRay2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@panditpandit1002 ай бұрын
Can you please add on explanation about How to switch to managerial positions from Technical background having 10 years of experience into IT Industry.
@PMPwithRay2 ай бұрын
Stay tuned!
@aikiseppuku4 ай бұрын
You didn't understand the reason for certifications. It is to make the life of recruiters who don't understand the to-be-filled job easier - not to learn something. If you want to learn something, you just take a course, read a book, gain real life experience. You don't need a certification for this.
@BrightOseiBadu-yf8di4 ай бұрын
Hi I've passed my PMP exams and your videos and simulator on Udemy contributed alot to this success story. Thank you very much
@PMPwithRay3 ай бұрын
Thank you and many congratulations!
@SolarDIYTalksАй бұрын
Sir please also guide who are the potential candidates for Lean Six Sigma Green Belt ?
@MrMancus13 ай бұрын
Hi Ray, Thanks for this honest and surprisingly good video. I just clicked out of curiosity. I am a preparing for a PMP exam - well not in a hurry - and there are two reasons. #1: I am applying for a job that requires the certification as preferred. #2: It is useful to speak the same language with other PMs. I have experienced some misunderstandings in the past due to different PM "schools" and experience background of PMO members and a lot of time was spent just with clarification of terms and expressions. I want to avoid this in my new position. By the way, I find the PMBOK and the other material providing the knowledge for the exam quite useful. Congrats, this is a good video. 👏 I fully agree that a piece of paper will neither do the job for one, nor substitute the required experience.
@PMPwithRay3 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! And yes, best wishes for your exam!
@vinodhasure82563 ай бұрын
Does PMP certification help in getting entry-level project management jobs?
@raulstl28912 ай бұрын
You need to have 3 years project management experience to even apply for the test.
@howardpepper10643 ай бұрын
Ray, I think you are spot on! I sat by an employee who got past the interview phase and got hired on as a project manager in my organization. You can tell he had no practical PM skils or business accumen. We were also connected on Linkedin and I dicovered that he didn't have any PM experience in his background! It kind of makes you wonder how he was able to get his application approved so he could sit for the exam!
@pavanKumar-ie6by3 ай бұрын
For PmP certification renewal, can i claim IIM-B certification certificate...? Please guide me
@PMPwithRay3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, not.
@pavanKumar-ie6by3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your guidance
@Eliy07424 ай бұрын
Factual POV, if a person doing supporting roles in the Project, is she still eligible to sit an exam?
@PMPwithRay3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, not. You need to be in project lead/PM roles.
@terryfort8399Ай бұрын
Good information. Thank you!
@PMPwithRayАй бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@true88883 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing the insights... really helpful..
@PMPwithRay3 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@IncredibleVirajPatra3 ай бұрын
I got clarity now. Thank you for sharing this relevant piece of practical advice.
@PMPwithRay3 ай бұрын
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@rajatbhosale81882 ай бұрын
Genuine video I would say. Truth prevails
@PMPwithRay2 ай бұрын
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@mvsp120Ай бұрын
Basis commonsense prevails over any costly certification, real job requirements and intake depends on various parameters like salary, experience of candidates fit into job etc...for reference we can go through all PMP jargons...what matters how we manage
@PMPwithRayАй бұрын
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@Cyfix15Ай бұрын
I am a aspiring PMP. I have over a decade of experience (but not following the exact PMBOK). I think PMI standards are great and I look at the PMP like a college degree. Its not guaranteed to get you a job but its proof that you know the subject matter
@PMPwithRayАй бұрын
Thank you for sharing your veiwpoint :)
@rajendrank46812 ай бұрын
You are right. I accept
@PMPwithRayАй бұрын
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@namratha.g.r.68014 ай бұрын
Absolutely Candid explanation Sir. Same things happen in the interview. Any skill has value, if it is implemented rather than only seen in the certification. It will be atleast good to say truth that they do not have experience and need some project management experience and that's why they are joining that organisation
@PMPwithRay4 ай бұрын
Exactly! Thank you for watching and commenting!
@siluvainayagam98294 ай бұрын
Very true, I personally know resources who never had a day of project management experience and took the exam.
@PMPwithRay3 ай бұрын
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@zethalal0074 ай бұрын
It took me 8 months preparation to pass pmp exam in first attempt.
@PMPwithRay4 ай бұрын
Better late than ever! Keep it up!
@marlonmohammed68323 ай бұрын
Totally correct
@PMPwithRay2 ай бұрын
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@marcodesulАй бұрын
PMP certification proves you can read a few books and make a D or above on multiple choice test. What else does it prove? That you are a good project manager? No.
@PMPwithRayАй бұрын
Yes, but theoretical knowledge is necessary before doing well practically.