Diy Tesla Powerwall ep50 Its Alive!!! Sorta :)

[@katkatthecat]

Also love the Right Meow! Cat approved!

[@tyharding3329]

Looking great! Awesome to see it running. I'm using a server rack also. I had Anderson plugs on mine , it was difficult to pull apart and I kept breaking the glass axial fuses. Gone back to the lugs with a nut and bolt. Looking forward to the next episode. Keep up the great work and entertaining videos!!! Have a great weekend

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks it a great feeling!!! Yeah Im afraid to puul to much for that same reason but I think I figured out a trick to pull them apart. More vids coming!

[@mrhypno1984]

I love the server rack idea!! Real clean and slick! I have a laptop charging station cart that i will be putting my powerwall in.

[@AveRage_Joe]

+mrhypno1984 Thanks! Yeah that laptop cart should work out great!

[@Colaaah]

Nice work! I thought you seemed tired, and then you showed the time and it all made sense 😴🤯😪

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks Man! Yeah I do most of the tinkering after work and thats usually around 1-4am lol😜💥

[@tonyb.4824]

Great job Joe! Hope you get some cooler weather and some help getting those panels set up.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks!!! Yeah Ill have to see what this weekend brings and at least get up there to make a plan!

[@Oneupthesleevecustoms]

Looks cool with all the blue led volt meters

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yeah it does. Just need to put them all on one side now lol

[@jmonsted]

You've got the fan noise backwards. 120mm fans make less noise, generally, because they don't have to spin as fast to move the same amount of air.

[@AveRage_Joe]

You may be right on that now that I think about it 👍

[@AndyShell]

I had the oposite issue. Hyperterminal worked but powerchute didnt. I need to figure out how to disable the beeping using hyperterminal

[@AveRage_Joe]

I wanna say knurlgnar in one of his videos showed how to do that but its been a while since Ive watched them! Ill have to try hyperterminal again, someone told me a while back that I couldnt have the network card installed at the same time when trying to use the serial port. That was my problem back then but havent tried since I got powerchut to work.

[@josephgkrestan3044]

Love your comments during the video. Joe

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thank You!!!😃👍

[@bigsmile542]

I like your setup

[@AveRage_Joe]

+bigsmile542 Thank You!!!

[@davidbland5885]

Looks very impressive

[@AveRage_Joe]

Im trying 😃

[@rohanwilschefski2549]

Nice to see it up and running Joe. Looks like you need to get your arse on the roof.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Its a good feeling and YES I need to get up there!!!

[@MarkCairnsGuru]

Looks amazing! Get some sleep Joe :)

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks!! I know right!!!

[@imchris1978]

You should of ordered the serial cable its more compatible with the other software, Looking good nice and tidy build

[@AveRage_Joe]

Im gonna try to get in there with a lan cable and if that doenst help much maybe Ill try building one.

[@imchris1978]

I made my own cable its easy I just used google picture search I had the usb but for some reason I had way more options with the serial cable. Also just realised yours is the 3000 I had the 5000 it had 3x120mm fans that were 24v if you add more fans make sure yours aren't 24v to as 12v ones dont really like 24v

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yep, these fans are 24v also. Ill try a wack at the serial cable because I want more options!

[@Furiends]

Using serial won't give you more options in PowerChute as the interface is exactly the same. All the network interface is doing is also sending commands over the serial except it provides a web interface. On the USB bus its announced as UPS device so OSs will see it as one. Other than that its just sending the same serial data to it that it would over a serial cable. As for compatibility that hasn't been my experience. I guess it depends on what software you wanna use.

[@johnstouchpad6437]

Put the network card in the XL UPS from the other UPS.

[@AveRage_Joe]

I took it out cause when it was installed I couldnt log in with the usb cable. Is that normal?

[@Furiends]

Yes. Like I said in another comment it takes over the serial input and replaces it.

[@AveRage_Joe]

+penguins forall Oh lol, musta missed that part 😉

[@KelseyBlack]

SNMP management over the card should be better than the web GUI... but it is an APC, so it could be rendered proprietary.

[@offgriddreaming5403]

Lookin schweet man..seemed to take care of the beepies 😎

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks, It sure did!

[@frimaneric]

Very nice and clean 👌😁

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks Man!!! Guess what I got in the MAIL!!!!! SSSHHHHHHH

[@frimaneric]

AveRage Joe thats awesome :)

[@dieseldanhockey2303]

don't know if you have used linux or not, there is program called apcupsd. Its a debian/ubuntu program that works with most modern apc ups'.

[@AveRage_Joe]

+Dan Hockey Ive only messed around on linux mint. If I can get into it easier and change more Ill do that?

[@dieseldanhockey2303]

Open up the software manager and search for "apc", Apcupsd and Apcupsd-cgi will show up as the top two picks. Apcupsd-cgi is the web based front end.

[@HBPowerwall]

Right... every video wasn't a lie!

[@AveRage_Joe]

Left...I dont have a reason to lie 🙃

[@korishan]

AveRage Joe Sure you do. When you get tired, you lie down :-P

[@bostjantrancar9605]

Awesome... 👍 Is alive...... Igor.....is alive... 👍

[@AveRage_Joe]

LOL Yes Sirrrr!!!

[@kirkb4989]

So is your watt meter battery backed up? I think those normally lose the data when the power shuts off (and the UPS WILL shut-off when the battery level gets low.)

[@AveRage_Joe]

No it doesnt have a battery so it will loose its data. I wonder if I could change some of the battery info in the ups for extra run time?

[@shadowmoon7763]

Hi Joe, love your video's and all the work you have done.. I have just aquired the exact same APC 3000 unit you are using here, and will be using Evo 280 Amp cells for my power supply. I need a little help with powerchute, i downloaded the 32bit version and cannot get it to see the ups. which cable did you use? USB to rj45 or serial??

[@AveRage_Joe]

Nice!!!! Yeah I ordered some Lishen 272ah in Jan! Not hear yet tho. Eeek its been a while since I messed with all that lol. I was an ordeal. I do remember that I ended up using the usb to rj and I wanna say I found a "free" version or a trail of the pro version and thats how I was able to do it. I think I showed what all I did in one of these videos around the time of making this video.

[@james10739]

You know what would be cool you can get some little voltage and amp meters that also display watts get one that is for ac and one for dc and install them in the front to keep see what the difference is and just to know

[@AveRage_Joe]

+James Holbrook Im thinking of getting something to do that once I get some cash.

[@james10739]

ya they are fairly cheap like $8ish to like $15 but i bought one for ac current think i was going to make a cheap kill-a-watt meter and by time i bought a box and plugs and a cord locally i was in it like $35 and i know you can get a kill-a-watt meter for like 20 or 25 but mine has a 6ft cord that is 12 awg and 2 plugs so whatever

[@jdeadman]

Something I noticed with my 1500 VA smart ups. It draws 1.15A at zero load. But this is on 24v version. Have you tested your zero load current from your batteries?

[@AveRage_Joe]

+Jason Deadman Interesting, I found my digital amp meter so Ill throw it on and find out.

[@jamest.5001]

right meow! fix that beep. I have a 1500 by APC. I want to do something with. my house is off grid. and 24v I use my generator with the inverter charger to charge until my solar is up. is there a way to get more wattage from these? great video

[@AveRage_Joe]

Beep Fixed!!! 😃 More wattage from the APC 1500? If so then YES! You have to tear it down and add some transistors and resistors then change some settings. knurlgnar24's has some videos about it here kzbin.info/aero/PLdImEedbzeWSpxQpQpqnFEKa5NKYXXe-V

[@kja9893]

How did you get past the runtime? It shuts down even when the batteries are fully charged via MPPT and solar. It's a IBM UPS1500THV and fixed the beep with the powerchute but still trying to figure out how to do it via the terminal to add more packs?

[@AveRage_Joe]

You may need to do a calibration test. That will reset the runtime to your batteries!

[@AveRage_Joe]

I also changed the external battery pack setting to 99 packs.

[@sarulraj]

@@AveRage_Joe Hi Joe! Here is my update. I managed to hook it up with the serial cable and added the Battery packs with the command '>' to 099 and keeping my fingers cross. Anything I else I need to do? Thanks!

[@mobilesigngeek1693]

What do your in-laws think about your collection of fine parts

[@AveRage_Joe]

They think im NUTZ🤣🤘

[@Chickey]

Looking good, getting there! As a side thing what do you use for editing your videos?

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks!!! One step at a time. I yam using Sony Vegas to edit.

[@katkatthecat]

A pair of pliers permanently silenced that horrible beeping in my APCs!

[@phizicks]

oh we're getting serious now. usb cable was standard for mine. I wonder if you do your capacity test with the UPS, maybe it'll think you've extended the batteries and show it's full Li-ion capacity.. If you let it run all night and the capacity is more than what the UPS thinks it has time left, it'll shutdown even before the battery has run out of power. Watch out, he's going to use a SWAT meter.!!

[@AveRage_Joe]

Sheit is getting REAL!!! LOL Ill probly try connecting through the lan so I can keep an eyeball or 2 on it from other PC's. Ill do a real capacity test once I get the solar hooked up so Ill have a way to recharge it. Its still running right...MEOW 😝

[@Furiends]

From the manual there is a setting for capacity. Just looking at the video I believe this is interpreted by the "Connected battery packs" setting which will just be a multiplier of that UPSs battery pack size.

[@pianoboyroger]

That black rack is bad ass. You can call it "Rack Attack"

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks!!! and I like that name!!!

[@johnstouchpad6437]

The powerchute personal edition does not work for the Smart UPS series. f.y.i.

[@AveRage_Joe]

I figured as much!

[@Furiends]

Which is basically all of them. Even my $50 APC is in the SmartUPS series. Powerchute is great software.

[@TomTheDutchy]

Hey Man, huge fan! I've got the same UPS as you do from a recycler and when i hook my lab power supply to it to mimic a battery it turns on(sort of). Now i want to load test it with my powersupply but i cannot get it to really start up and provide power to a lightbulb for example. Do you have any tips? Also the usb is a network cable, do you plug it straight into the computer and download the software? Love you channel, big fan!

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks for watching! Nice! How many volts are you supplying to it. It should work from about 42 to 58v and it would have to supply about 3-4 amps. Yeah I used the usb network cable thingy and downloaded the bis edition of powerchut to get into the ups to turn off the beeper and changed the external battery pack setting to the highest it would go and that was 99packs.

[@TomTheDutchy]

@@AveRage_Joe thanks for the reply! I want one of your tshirts, how much do i have to donate with patreon?(im a poor student but i really want that shirt :D, are you planning on making a right....mweoh shirt :D?) i ran it at 55 volts and it took about 0.3 amps running stationary, but without being connected to the net. There is no voltage on the output so i wonder if i have to connect it to the net or change some settings....

[@AveRage_Joe]

For Patreon you would need to choose the $25 dollar option to get a shirt but I also have the t-shirts on amazon with a link in description box if you wanted to go that route also. My ups takes 2 amps at idle so im thinking yours isnt turning on all the way. Are you holding the on button long enough. I hold the on button until it starts to beeeeeep then let go cause if you just hold the button down for a second or two its not fully on. Let me know

[@yakapo999]

AveRage Joe New subscriber here. 2 amps! It’s pulling 100 watts at idle? If that’s right, I’m not going this route. There are 3,000 watt 48v inverters that pull .3 amps at idle.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yes it has a high idle draw for sure and YES a real inverter will have a much lower idle draw! I used the ups because it was free!

[@Furiends]

For this UPS the time remaining is based on a battery capacity setting which you can change. Edit: which appears to be controlled with the "Connected battery packs" setting in powerchute. P.S. I think you should put the UPS above the batters and put a laptop rack holder up top so you can have a slide out laptop. :>

[@AveRage_Joe]

+penguins forall Ok ya I just figured out that part. Thats not a bad Idea, slide out lapy topy. Hey did you day it would be easier with linux mint or possible beable to edit more in the ups? If so im switching over!!!

[@Furiends]

Well since I love Linux I'd always advocate using it. However you should certainly be able to get NUT to work on windows.

[@Furiends]

Since you're here could try to get it working

[@Furiends]

Also if i understand correctly PowerShute just runs on Linux on the "SmartSlot" using the serial internally which means it could in theory be your monitoring computer if you wanted to hack it and put your own Linux on it instead of using a laptop. That'd be kinda badass but probably should do that later.

[@AveRage_Joe]

+penguins forall it kept saying to install like "upslib" or something. So I dl it and it was like a text file or a bunch text files and then I was lost lol

[@danielwilson2109]

So curious about your project. I had a apc smart 2200 and never used it. Thought it was too big for my needs but now use the apc 1500 24v for camping. I can do about 900w-950w depending on the load type. I'm buying a van to convert into a camper and would want to boil a kettle and toast broad, etc... so was thinking of now upgrading to this MONSTER 3000 RM XL you've got. I recon with the extra transistors it will handle more than 3000 (at a educated guess). Soo cool! Keep up the entertaining videos!

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks for watching! Ive become some what of a hoarder lately for parts I might use for projects lol. Dont throw much away right Meow! Yeah Thats what I was thinking about the transistors too

[@barrasin1]

cool i wont one like that

[@AveRage_Joe]

They work pretty good so far!

[@DiyintheGhetto]

ahhhhhh cat hair in your mouth nice one :)

[@AveRage_Joe]

Wouldnt be the first. Its almost like a condiment around here LOL

[@levik1832]

So how much power does this UPS use just to operate versus a regular inverter? Free is free when you got these but I'm just curious. Also, is the UPS software 'hard coded' with a specific battery tech in mind (for example, traditional lead acid batteries), so regardless of what you hook up to it, its numbers and charge cut-offs will always be off? Great vid, once again. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYScdn6BmJWojMU

[@AveRage_Joe]

LOL its Wooooorking!!!! Those are good questions and I try to find out 😃 Yeah free is awesome. Ill give it a go and see what happens. I think they are hard coded cause I cant change much especially the battery stuff! Thanks Man!!!