Steel Framing - Did You Know?

[@peterclancy3653]

I built a house for myself with this and it came as a kit (120 square metres) in 2002. It took about seven weeks from pouring the slab to having inside and outside cladding installed including water, electricity and gas fixtures installed and operational. Brilliant to work with and the building was cyclone rated.

[@kaydog890]

Cool story, bro.

[@KA-vs7nl]

@@kaydog890 and you have less than 10k in the bank lol

[@balloney2175]

I wish you posted on KZbin your DIY so we can learn from your experience.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

@@KA-vs7nl I think you'll have way less than that buying a raggedy old house. Condo? Oh. You mean when you get 0 say on maintenance and it falls over? And you only own AIR?

[@nm3547]

@@KA-vs7nl steel studs ran cheaper than wood over the pandemic. I think they're similar or equivalent now.

[@knuckleheadmcgee]

i was a commercial (primarily) painter in the early 2000s and i had always been wondering when steel studs were gonna be used in residential construction. I would absolutely love to build a house that is made up of recycled steel framework. i'm glad this concept is finally getting traction outside the commercial application aspect.

[@immelting9834]

I built my home out of steel 24 years ago, just like this. It's was manufacturered by tristeel. It's the red iron style and the home plan is called cumberland , if they still make that one idk, but I love it.

[@eitkoml]

Are there any problems with heating, cooling and condensation? I can see the steel studs conducting a lot of heat through the walls.

[@eitkoml]

@bigmike obama And there is the problem of the steel creating thermal bridging. Basically creating channels through which heat can flow in or out of a building easily. In most houses insulation is placed between the studs, with wood also providing a less effective insulation. If the insulation will be placed between the frame and exterior then there is the problem of how to mount it, and what the siding and vapor barrier will attach to. If more steel is used then the thermal bridging problem is not solved. Steel can also easily lead to condensation, which leads to mold growth and rust.

[@nm3547]

@@eitkoml most of the time, it's a blanket of uninterrupted insulation, outside the studs (or however is designed for your environment). There are other ways to minimize thermal bridging as well.

[@baronlowe9579]

Was this video originally filmed in the late 90’s/early 2000’s and then reposted this year because of high lumber costs???

[@offgridhomesteaders863]

OMFG. Was think the SAME exact thing!!! And the lumber costs are going to get worse!

[@paulmunro3175]

Any home that relies on wood for support does not get my vote. Think huff and puff. There is nothing wrong with steel support, it is superior. But the labor industry would naturally disagree. I saw a row of townhouses here which consisted of nothing but a concrete base, wood framing and brick outer layer. The cost to buyer was insane.

[@SirD1]

hahahahahahaha

[@jasongrinnell1986]

That place has been there for a long time. You can part and walk over to look it all over. I stopped by there in 2004.

[@flashbangkennya5498]

I was expecting when I looked at the video date for it to be 2005 at the latest. Did anyone else notice the guys on the chop saw had no hearing protection? Talk about going deaf!

[@gmckenzie175]

As a former demolition worker I did see rusted steel on lower support steel when water was near by. Such as commercial restaurants, dishwashing areas, bathrooms, and sitting water. Just a fact. Otherwise great alternative. Clean up any water disasters around the base framing and keep dry. I would almost suggest engineering drain holes near those type areas. If your going to make a claim talk to people who see it all the way through its life back to the recycling bin.

[@eag8999]

You can paint the lower structure. Paint over galvanization is about as good as it gets for steel rust protection

[@imcalledmoses]

Concrete and steel is per any construction person I have met, told me. I have been thinking about a method for fasteners. I also saw casted concrete wall erections, So if a complete wall steel frame can be manufactured then a dwelling can be manufactured assembled in one day. Clever staging and maneuvering of materials...12 ft sectional panels...!?

[@Harlanmote]

I was using metal studs in office buildings back in the early 80’s. Easier to work with than wood.

[@ianclare1320]

I framed my addition in 16 gauge 6" studs. Roof and walls. Love working with steel.

[@shayneelynnlopez3668]

Wow.. So cool inside of steel house.

[@WillieStubbs]

When I built my 8X12 shed I used the steel 2x4's from Lowe's. The front wall was 8' tall so no cutting for height. The rear wall was 7' so water would drain off nicely and I did all my cuts with tin snips. I cut the two front parts of the "U" shape and bent the 4" back and straightened it over and over until it broke apart. It was quick, simple and quiet. I screwed 4x8 lap siding boards to it and the only issue I had was the 2x4 pushing away from the screw if I was too far from the center near the unsupported end of the "U" shape. I caulked the screw heads and painted it and it came out fine for a shed. If I had it to do over, I'd cut about a 4" wood 2x4 and put every 2' so I'd be able to pull the board in nice and tight.

[@thinkingoutloud6741]

So, all we need now is a video that covers all the stuff they DIDN’T talk about in this one. I vote for the first topic to be insulating outside walls.

[@elhoward7440]

Seems to me you have to insulate outside the beams, not between them, but what do I know.

[@thinkingoutloud6741]

@@elhoward7440 exactly

[@cvcoco]

Hold on....galvanized ok, but when you cut it, is the edge still galvanized? Wouldnt you need to re-galvanize every edge and drill hole? Seems you need to cut every piece and then dip the parts the way they do car bodies? Otherwise isnt every part rusting and corroding the moment you cut it? Or, should you erect the whole structure and then spray it with some kind of coating to seal up everything?

[@garywheeler7039]

No. It not like pressure treated wood. The zinc coating on wet galvanized steel acts sort of like a battery to prevent corrosion at cut portions. The zinc is degraded slightly to help protect the unprotected steel creating what they call white rust on the zinc. And removing some of the zinc metal. One surprising thing I learned however is that in damp environments you might not want the steel sitting directly on wet concrete. Like in a commercial shower room or bathroom. I heard the practice is to put a pressure treated sill below the steel bottom track of a stud wall, although that was years ago, they might have better technology today.

[@jaquigreenlees]

@@garywheeler7039 Sill gasket, a strip of rubbery plastic frequently used even with wood framing to separate wet/cold concrete from the framing.

[@garywheeler7039]

@@jaquigreenlees : Yes, a type of sill sealer.

[@billnunya858]

LOL, the galv. studs are not exposed to moisture, my homes are rated in the 2500 yr range.

[@erikprice3271]

They make Galv spray . We use it in the Fabrication industry. It lasts a long time.

[@caiobabe]

I love the comment, "we use an industrial steel chop saw with a 14" blade". He makes it sound so professional use only, heavy duty, factory grade when in fact it is a basic steel chop saw, made by DeWalt, sold at Home Depot.

[@ralphdavis9670]

Yes, I thought the same.

[@billnunya858]

Wrong, the metal chop saw has much slower RPM.

[@joshuasoileau1836]

True I been doing this for 15 years that’s all we use

[@kaufmanat1]

@@billnunya858 yes, it's a basic tool you can buy at home depot. They're not that expensive.

[@hard2getitrightagain314]

Sell the SIZZLE not the saw

[@thetishbite5582]

Love the video. I had an idea for steel framed houses in the 70's but not the money to make it happen. A tip for the guy making the pieces; OSHA will flip out watching this video i.e., No hand protection, no safety glasses, workers exposed to a shifting load (loading the truck), no hard hats, no hearing protection. Get your worker's safe and go for it!

[@MetalMachineryTechnology]

Nice video of steel framing house. We are manufacturer of Light gauge steel framing machine and cold roll forming machines. Its easy to build house by steel and mostly to avoid forest destroy.

[@paulbains9152]

I built a big , all steel and concrete block shop out of wideflange beam cuttings , joining then all together to make beams and rafters . And I got the steel cheap , because it was cuttings . It also has 2 built in overhead cranes . lots of big high free span areas . 32 years later , it looks like brand new . At the same time , I remodeled my house , its wood . 32 years later , theres rot breaking out all over the place , from ants , and joint leaks , even though it got a new heavy gauge steel roof . If I were to do it again , Id build the house like the shop , then its done , as long as Ill be here .

[@beansoup6056]

what about price comparisons

[@carpintero01]

Material cost may be a bit higher but I’ve seen guys frame 200-300 linear feet of walls in a day. Production costs can be significantly cheaper than wood framing. Another thing to consider is there are no special connections, hangers, etc (Simpson strong tie connections for example). All steel to steel, wood, or brick connections are made with screws. All steel to concrete connections are made with simple shot-on concrete pins

[@hard2getitrightagain314]

@@carpintero01 or embedded j-bolts, if you're really wired tight.

[@heathersmith2201]

What about loosing heat of the house? Are they colder?

[@Wastinglotsoftime]

Another great benefit is straight walls like engineered studs drywall finish will gave far less waves and bows. Our house is now 4 years old not a single crack on the drywall, not to mention a single creek or pop. House is dead silent in the wind and rain. Only weakness now is our shitty U.S standard double pane windows. Many European homes use triple thick pane windows with a very high r value and even sound dampening.

[@neilhounshell2892]

what happens when lighting strikes

[@Jarmezrocks]

It's earthed so will likely have no effect?

[@carlosg3799]

Your a smart guy

[@neilhounshell2892]

@@Jarmezrocks what does likely mean?

[@Jarmezrocks]

@@neilhounshell2892 well when lightning strikes any anything it will travel the shortest route to Earth. Being that the house is on the ground and therefore the frame in contact with the ground that there's almost no chance of being hurt by lightning strike. The metal is far more conductive compared to a person and the house is above your head so will get struck first. I personally wouldn't want to be up inside the roof of the house during an electrical storm. All of the wiring holes that go through the frame are above ground height also so all the things plugged in are probably at risk of being electrocuted and kill all your appliances though? I can't imagine all those rubber grommets being rated at multi millions of volts? And the fact that your house could get struck on 1 side of the house could mean everything in contact with the metallic frame ALSO can be buzzed because the whole lot is conductive! That being said if you are inside the house then the house will likely act as a giant Faraday cage? But I wouldn't like to be the one to test that theory.... The fact that steel frames are noisy and conductive is enough for me not to want live in a house with steel frame.

[@neilhounshell2892]

@@Jarmezrocks thanks

[@spockmcoyissmart961]

keep in mind, there are weight bearing and non-bearing gauge of steel studs. Always the same dimension, always straight. Rain isn't going to hurt them stacked on the job site. I use them in basement build outs below grade. If the foundation ever leaks, you don't have to worry about rot. As far as screws to hold the studs in place, many guys don't put screws in the studs/floor/header plates. When you set the studs every 16" or 24", the screws through the drywall into the studs will hold the studs in place. When steel studs first came out, you could drill and rivet each stud into place. OR there was a tool that punched/crimped the studs onto the floor/header plates.

[@marks6663]

if the foundation leaks, they will rust like crazy.

[@spockmcoyissmart961]

@@marks6663 In time yes, it will rust. Wood will mold rapidly and also begin to rot.

[@wellingtonsingh1501]

My question with a steel home in a cold climate like 30 or 40 degree below would the steel frame warp or buckled?

[@billnunya858]

no

[@hailexiao2770]

Not if it's insulated properly, on the outside only.

[@johnmoyer5515]

Being a carpenter for 48 yrs now have worked with wood & metal they both have there place i prefer wood myself everything in building has changed materials, procedures

[@12vLife]

does anybody know if there is a house wrap membrane product that can stick onto metal framing in a house with no sheathing?

[@dentalnovember]

How much is the cost difference in a percentage as compared to a wood frame home?

[@DL-ry3qg]

@@lawsfreelancemalice1380 wow

[@yalezhang8831]

I'm worried how strong is screwing thin sheet metal. Are the holes reinforced somehow so that the screw has more to hold on to than just the sheet metal?

[@YoYo-rr5jz]

You are correct. The screws do not bite like they do into wood. When you bang on the wall it doesn't feel or sound as solid as wood. I live in a steel framed house and it has its benefits but there are some drawbacks. It is just as structurally sound as a wood framed house but it is different.

[@yalezhang8831]

​@@YoYo-rr5jz Interesting and makes sense. That reminds me of the early days of planes when wood was actually superior - metal would buckle due to being so thin and the rivets used to join them increased drag unless they were counter sunk. But due to the ideology that metal is progress, hardly anyone bothered to improve wood planes :( I still very much like steel framing for termites. In my condo in the SF bay area, I saw dry wood termite damage in the framing, especially in the attic and lots of fecal pellets behind wall plates. But I think this was from a long time ago (2000s?)

[@Wazupu]

@@YoYo-rr5jz Drawbacks?

[@captainhargrove113]

Ouch!!! We are looking for GC's now for a new hone build. ALL OF THEM came back with a FOURTY PERCENT increase over stick build even at current lumber prices. Our 288k home went to 404k on average estimate using steel framing. That is too dam bad too because if the cost was even closr, I would go steel over lumber on the spot.

[@silvererain]

The problem with steel frames is that it changes temperature more rapidly than timber frame, meaning more condensation. That's why in NZ commercial buildings we use timber for exterior walls and steel walls for interior walls. Benefit of using steel frame is just because you can span wider

[@mmercier0921]

Last few I did they used spray foam insulation (very expensive)... interior vapor barrier, and breathable fiber (densglass..?) sheathing. All construction is based on regional climate considerations. If you build a traditional New England house in Lousiana it will rot away in a decade. Vice versa... you will freeze to death in a winter. We did a lot of steel to wood to steel joinery, mostly schools and hospitals.

[@hailexiao2770]

That's why with steel you're supposed to do exterior insulation only, so if you condition the interior the frame stays at the same temperature year round. Of course some builders cheap out and try to build it like wood, with fiberglass between the studs.

[@silvererain]

@@hailexiao2770 sounds right

[@gregboam8474]

How do I mount my tv to the studs if they’re steel?

[@UniqueChannel654654]

Screws?

[@midas7934]

@@UniqueChannel654654 bingo

[@accuratealloys]

Same as wood. Just use self tapping screws.

[@F-J.]

Add wood studs ??

[@llnam12]

do they rust and are they lighting proof?

[@Creator_Veeto_PAEACP]

Is this cheaper than wood framing? I’m more concerned with saving because i plan on insulting with hempcrete. Thanks 🙏🏼

[@KushDragon420]

No. Not even close.

[@Creator_Veeto_PAEACP]

@@KushDragon420 thanks

[@KushDragon420]

@@Creator_Veeto_PAEACP ya np, wood is going up, but steel at least where i live, is at least 2x more

[@miragetime2241]

HempCrete, what is that?

[@KushDragon420]

@@miragetime2241 comcrete made from hemp fibers and mortar mix. Hemp can be used for literally 1000s of tjings. Anything oil makes. Hemp makes better. Faster. Cheaper. And cleaner. Concrete can also be made with hemp fibers but i do not know if its stronger than normal cincrete as ive mot made or use any before.

[@ralphdavis9670]

How many grinders do you need on a job to adjust for imperfect footing?

[@bjornegan6421]

7.24

[@gonzalogomez6735]

What is the typical sheating that you use when you build with steel framing???

[@spockmcoyissmart961]

I work with steel and the guy cutting with no hearing protection must say 'WHAT?" a lot.........

[@yonseienglish]

That job should have been automated a decade ago. Lol.

[@court2379]

@@yonseienglish This video was made more than a decade ago.

[@court2379]

I noticed the same thing. Those things are so loud. I cannot imagine not wearing anything.

[@matthewl2453]

Not to mention cutting galvanized steel with a plasma cutter with no respiratory protection. I bet he goes home feeling feverish almost daily.

[@court2379]

@@matthewl2453 It would have little or no effect IMO. There isn't enough of it, and there is enough air flow/space that unless you were right down breathing it, you won't get sick. I have done much worse while welding and not become sick. Welding you can see the fumes come off.

[@jerrykinnin7941]

I like steel to frame homes. Run the electric and tech wiring thru concretewrap inside ansd out. . Brick faced. Steel roof. Sprayfoam insulated.

[@bigredracer7848]

I often wondered what they did with them old Fords

[@sandrataylor8765]

Steel is true an flat great for. Drywall

[@mothman-jz8ug]

Old Fords are used to push Obamamobiles off the road.

[@lancesay]

crazy, now i want to build my own home!

[@scottallen517]

They this galvanized coat steel will not rust, which I agree with. However, they received the galvanized steel from the manufacturer, mill it to plan specs, do they reapply the coating to the cut ends and surfaces before delivery?

[@paultreviska9417]

Time 1:50. Ref the corrosion resistance what about internal galvanic corrosion - you mentioned you use recycled steel from cars. Car steel to begin with is not so pure so recycled what is the guaranteed and the expected life of the component parts ?

[@victorguevara3029]

Steel homes can also have plenum returns for HVAC which means every room can have its own return as they won't need to be ducted back to the AC unit.

[@joepschmobly]

How would you super insulate a residence while using this system and deal with condensation? Planning on walls of R 50 amd roof of R 90.

[@kphillips7922]

You should hear my steel shed crack and pop as the sun warms it up.

[@offgridhomesteaders863]

Same thing with my knee's and joints too. Ouch

[@stevejdunne2787]

Do you have vinyl siding on that shed

[@Jarmezrocks]

@Karl doesn't matter steel houses are so loud as fuck you will wake up every single fucking night to the sounds of clunking, banging, thudding as the steel cools and contracts. Timber framed houses do it too, but nowhere near the sound volume and echo chamber of steel frames! The sound travels throughout the entire frame of the house meaning no room is ever spared from the sound!

[@fallingbomb3992]

Steel moves following the heat of the sun,moving from one side to another every day . (Expansion & Contraction)

[@sergiomendesvt]

lol

[@janephillips3627]

Now, how much more will it COST? (Always have Love the ideal for a house).

[@heatherstickland5284]

There's one place that I saw actual pricing depending on square foot ratio and just over 2000 ft was under $30,000 but that's just the frame you also got to pay for insulation, walls, plumbing, wiring, and I guess gas if you want it; and last but certainly not least utilities and furnishing. I'm having a hard time finding a place that kind of does it all and especially a more modular prefabricated sort of deal even for a custom build. I would love it if they actually had kids with pre-drilled for marked areas where you have to drill and make it easier for assembling for two or more people cutting labor cost

[@johnbishop1360]

More? It's like $20 for an 8 ft 2x4 right now. Lol

[@packratswhatif.3990]

Try building a typical style home here in Ontario of steel and see just what the price tag would be now ...... prices of homes here are just insane now and I am so glad I purchased mine back 2010 ....... at least I have a home.

[@FloridaMan69.]

I have three homes, you jelly?

[@craigslistrro709]

@@FloridaMan69. one upper huh?.. how nice.

[@djgrows7962]

Doing it currently lower cost per sqft and only gotten worse the last few years

[@wrdennig]

I imagine that drywall is attached with the normal bugle-head screws, but how do you attach the baseboard?

[@oWASTINGTIMEo]

Glue

[@johnware6272]

Velcro

[@lyndonwhitson2269]

That would be a trim screw (square drive, small head)

[@mmercier0921]

Steel framing is much easier than wood. Did both for 20 years. Don't miss crowning 20' hemlock 2x10's. Most light commercial has been steel studs for decades. Nothing like a 50' batch of exterior wall studs to get things going.

[@clintonjones955]

...one thing that I noticed was STATIC (enough to raise hair ) in each room ...A grounding mechanism (through the bottom plate) might work to set up 12 volt systems (SOLAR) separate from 3 phase AC systems ...with the price of lumber going up concrete and metal are economical and portable systems to develop think 3d printers (Plastic, Biological) and cameras on process ...recycle plastic into studs?

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

Isn't that a dry air problem?

[@miller2529]

What is the cost difference from word to steel?

[@billnunya858]

Steel is cheaper

[@bolivianprince7326]

I'm thinking to build my house in steel framing but is it ok to go without OSB? If so how would I put the Tyvek membrane directly to the studs?

[@dennis-qu7bs]

I would love to have a steel-frame house!

[@malcolmpaull9324]

What if you wanted to mount like a punching bag what should you have to use?

[@malcolmpaull9324]

@zoki kostadinov thank you so much!

[@786otto]

Go to the gym :)

[@64maxpower]

You'd have to add wood blocking. I might screw 3/4 plywood to the wall and mount your equipment to that

[@czarekaj1098]

Not one word about cost comparing to wood frame

[@davidjohnston7512]

It’s on par with timber.Here in Australia about half of all new homes built are steel framed.Primarily people choose steel because it is termite proof.

[@midas7934]

@@davidjohnston7512 considering 96% of Australias population is near the shoreline, isnt rust an issue there? I mean i know termites suck but the humid salty air is just as bad on steel isnt it?

[@gorgig9136]

Yes , that's #1 Question

[@czarekaj1098]

@@gags730 Point taken, LOL/ Don't cheat on your wife

[@lonniewenger5000]

@@gags730 lol 🤣

[@jadesluv]

Why isn’t there a link to Tri-Steel, don’t they have a web site?

[@iseetheglory4593]

Does steel framing in a humid climate sweat inside the wall

[@kazuza9]

Nothing like steel and concrete homes. Forget that wood house

[@fanta12345]

Forget getting a cell signal.

[@tooge47]

Built my home inside a 30 X 100 Butler American Classic building, hurricane Katrina's winds ripped shingles off my neighbor's home, my standing seam roof didn't flinch

[@midas7934]

Idt concrete would do well with earthquakes, rebar or none, the concrete around it still can crack. And steel wouldnt be great near shorlines, theyd likely rust, especially closer you get to the shore

[@mountainmanprojects]

what about thermal expansion and contraction

[@amilkarnogales2869]

Where can I learn to build with this system in Canada?

[@paulbains9152]

I had an advantage , I took Mechanical Engineering . But I have to design alot of frame works for mill machinery etc . Wouldnt think of using wood , between vibration and rot and salt air , steels better . I guess you could take some night school courses to learn about it . Im use to working in an office where the whole bunch of us are a team , and add input .

[@amilkarnogales2869]

@@paulbains9152 I'm form Bolivian. I am an architect, I am unemployed, I would like to travel to Canada to learn steel frame and work there as an laborer. Do you know of any school where I can learn? .. I'm looking on the internet and I can't find anything at a technical level.

[@ericbarnes3829]

What is the cost of construction including materials when compared with wood? Is the drywall screwed to the steel studs or glued?

[@natej6671]

Everything is screwed. Sheathing, decking and drywall.

[@ericbarnes3829]

@@natej6671 I have built several houses over the years, all wood, but I do like the steel framing you show. Has anyone ever tried spot welding rather than bolts?

[@natej6671]

@@ericbarnes3829 This isn’t my video but to answer your question, welding is seldom used because all connections are provided by the stud supplier. Welding is only used in special conditions if the gauge of the studs can support it and if the steel stud designer approves it so as to not violate any warranties. Bringing a welder to the site introduces another trade and drives up cost so contractors tend to avoid that.

[@seazestyt]

A lot of things not covered in this video. Cost compared to traditional framing, warranty, R value,..... I know it is not the ideal option for areas with cold winter due to condensation problem since metal is a good conductor.

[@davidlaeson5608]

The way they are made the insulation goes inside the stud.

[@rxonmymind8362]

@@davidlaeson5608 Which is a negative. Want to wrap the insulation outside.

[@Gargamoth]

How are these steel parts during a lighting storm? Do they need any prepping?

[@billnunya858]

Ufer ground under the slab and a ground at the panel.

[@duxmop]

Where can i get these as i am planning to build my home around 3700 sq fts

[@bradroon5467]

I've done almost every sort of remodel and form of residential construction on everything from tiny homes to million$$$ homes 3 times the size of this thumbnail. I built one steel house at the foot of the rockies for the man who was on the board of an organization for light industrial, commercial, and residential construction of steel homes. We kept hearing about perfect plumb, and dead on level and some walls and systems were good. It was cold and soulless, and there is cold conducted from thinner exterior insulation through the framing right up t the drywall or occasionally thin interior insulation under the inteerior finish.

[@jasmith1867]

Is this metal cheaper than used upset tubing from oil wells? Pole barn wants to know.

[@emilyrose9854]

I tried finding the company tri-steel structures inc, but they don't seem to exist anymore. Did they get rebranded?

[@keeyalion9147]

Is Any Problem During Lightning ?

[@786otto]

Not really but if hit by lightning would be lot better than wood construction.

[@keeyalion9147]

@@786otto Thanks

[@keeyalion9147]

@@davidjacobs8558 Okay

[@scorpio6587]

Lighting-proof. The safest place to be during lighting is inside of a faraday cage. Same with a car.

[@pfschuyler]

Did you know? That it thermally short-circuits the building envelope, effectively destroying energy efficiency? It requires a completely different thermal insulation solution, and acoustical approach...to work.

[@vincelombardi2669]

Please explain more detail. What time of insulation would you need to do etc?

[@pfschuyler]

@@vincelombardi2669 Studs of any sort in a typical wall (or other building element) create "thermal bridging." This is when one material (the studs) conduct heat much more efficiently than the surrounding assemblies. It's an issue with wood also, but wood is a much better insulator than steel. Steel conducts heat ultra-efficiently, so even the thinnest cross section transfers heat through the wall efficiently. Typical wall assemblies have a grid of studs and plates. If you merely swap wood for steel in a conventional wall assembly, the steel massively short-circuits (thermally) the entire assembly. So even if you have a thick wall packed with insulation the effectiveness of the whole wall will be a tiny fraction of what's expected. Build this way and you will have a very energy-inefficient building. Of course I'm talking about a regular stud wall. Steel itself is a great material, but not in this way. There are lots of ways to build a wall. For steel, continuous insulation on the outside is the way to go, but it's a whole different way to build. Check out a source like www.buildingscience.com where they test all sorts of different assemblies and materials.

[@billnunya858]

My walls are R-35, roof, R-50, home skinned with 1/2" 2 lb. foam panels for thermal break

[@brettmoore3194]

Can you show a timber style home in steel? I would be very interested

[@theschoolofthoughts5274]

Can we get more specifications of the steel used like thickness size for columns and beams. Also how high or many stories can be built in this way

[@mansardmanor3869]

How does Metal precut compare to Glue Lamb precut for home use Not just for beams anymore

[@johnhoude1340]

How does WiFi travel through the house? Anything special regarding electrical work. Can the whole house be grounded? What about expansion and contraction?

[@albertatundra]

What's the difference in cost?

[@richwinslow587]

I’ve seen galvanized steel rust! I live in Florida where it’s always wet. And how about those self tapping screws…are they stainless steel…or galvanized? If not, they’ll rust within a month! I’d love a low carbon stainless steel home. What’s the quote on a 2500sq. ft. home using all high quality stainless?

[@Gerrysjamz]

So if I want to hang something on my wall where I would’ve drilled into a wooden stud how do I do it in a steel home?

[@T410ce]

Self-drilling/tapping screw bro’ same as what they show them using to assemble the home...

[@calvoh9715]

is concrete buildings expensive in usa?

[@786otto]

So why using plywood for sheathing? Do it all fire rated.

[@fanta12345]

Because Andrew Camarata used up all the steel sheets.

[@catmando4914]

Steel does not burn, it weakens in a fire and bends, distorts. Wood will char, and hold ridged much longer before collapsing. You can grow trees, but once all the steel ore is gone, you must recycle as long as there is steel to recycle is available. Wood is easier to work with for the DIYer. Both materials have their pluses and minuses.

[@aavista8562]

How does this hold up in a lighting storm?

[@cliffkachina3355]

Where can I get a 4 story steel home builder here in Dallas Texas?

[@ev1558]

You should still pretreat for termites. There is still plenty of cellulose (what termites actually eat), in the finished construction.

[@vdpeer]

You don't make any mention of thermal bridging.

[@anthonydyer3939]

l only recently discovered steel framing was being used in domestic property construction. However the construction methods I observed in the video were somewhat similar to timber framing - very labour intensive. Everything manually cut with a chop saw and then screwed together with drill drivers. I guess the methods wouldn't look too unfamiliar to most carpenters. I'm not a steel expert, but I've worked in modern shipyards, and the construction techniques employed there involve building steel modules robotically using CNC cutters and welders. They seemingly come straight out of an autocad drawing. These modules are then assembled lego brick style to form a ship using cranes and are finally welded together by humans. They do seem to have a far more labour efficient template that could be applied to the domestic construction industry. Is there any reason why this style hasn't been applied?

[@jaquigreenlees]

costs. robot welders ( after humans tack weld the bits in place ) cost to buy, not very portable. cnc cutting tables of any sort, not portable and very expensive. cranes have a huge cost to operate and needing them to shift modules around to weld together would also drive costs up. The shipyards don't have the problems of moving the expensive equipment, and can use rail cranes in the yard to shift modules, impossible to do on a house lot.

[@ZuZaarr]

Also shipyards are dealing with much bigger projects with thicker steel. Cant compare a $200k-1mil project to the shipyard $20m+ military contracts.

[@nm3547]

It's much more efficient now, with roll formers.

[@rogeri5743]

not labour intensive，there are some light steel frame cnc machine，that is designed by software, and then cut and drill by machine. however, this machine is not advanced compared to robot arm. because the frame is only one dimensional.

[@williamtemple4331]

My only question is how is the screw heads dealt with when applying dry wall or sheathing?

[@handytbutler7380]

They sink into the drywall, i have never had an issue with that problem...

[@ianmoone2359]

Agree with everything said. With that out the way - Aussie wildfires are showing steel framed houses gutted and collapsed. The “problem” being the engineers are relying on the folding into C & U purlins to add rigidity to reach the required structural strength to support across spans. In a fire where timber or fibre based cladding (sheet rock for eg), when they burn they are hot enough to distort the thin section folded purlins and they distort and sag, meaning they lose their structural integrity. You cannot just re clad a standing burnt steel house frame, it’s a write off? It’s the engineers fault, trying to save costs by employing steel in gauge too thin to self support in a fire situation. Steel frame is not all its cracked up to be! If the engineering were better it COULD be!

[@jodyj0]

Can cinderblock & steel homes be combined? Between cinderblock & steel which of the two is better? The advantage I notice is that steel can be many stories they use them in skyscrapers after all,but cinderblock can only be one story & any additional stories has to be wood frame.Price wise is steel the most expensive of the two? between steel & cinderblock that is.

[@dawnblackwood8919]

Can you have a steal frame and brick house?

[@rgcwow]

Ok, so what is the cost compared to using lumber? Both steel and lumber have gone way up.

[@keithrodgers1030]

About time !!, quicker to construct , it's stronger, a lot more efficient to manufacture at the factory and assemble at site.

[@billnunya858]

Correct and is exactly what I do

[@avquest3197]

Why can’t I find this company on the web?

[@bryanphelps7371]

Where are you located now?

[@todow48]

Does it make noise heating up in the summer or cooling in the winter.

[@erikhopkins9488]

Costs?

[@charlescook844]

How do you deal with the hex head screws sticking out of the studs for sheetrock or siding where you need a flush surface?

[@javierfernandezjr]

Its minimal protrusion....pan head screws are also available.

[@billnunya858]

U don't use hex head, they are a small round head similar to a sheet rock screw.

[@DerrickParent]

please post the link to the company, i can't find it

[@tristanpatterson3843]

They'll be out of business now if they use an abrasive chop saw.

[@786otto]

You dont need any company just have it drown in metal and order your metal at local drywall company

[@cryptostar7258]

@@786otto can I order light steer framing from local drywall company?? Are you sure??? Will they build all thirds frames??

[@cryptostar7258]

@@786otto what is local drywall company? Google offers me installers only

[@786otto]

@@cryptostar7258 Store/warehouse that sales drywall and metal studs

[@johnnyweld9672]

metal and concrete words of strength in Florida

[@arturdoghramajyan2029]

do you have a web site?

[@danechols6337]

Could you get any closer?

[@davidrogers181]

I heard that Tri-Steel went out of business years ago. Cannot find a listing for them anywhere

[@dennyoviedo4884]

Nice 👍 but how much it will be cost ?

[@SirD1]

are they more expensive than traditional homes?

[@billnunya858]

no

[@Surprise_Me]

There are previous customer complaints online about Tri-Steel Structures in Denton TX. Is this the same or a different company?

[@johnt3556]

I researched and advocated for TriSteel product and home kits. This research included an owner builder in Mohave desert area who received his kit. So I invested savings. TriSteel took my money and we got no kit in return. Instead an attorney told me by phone principals were heading to jail. No remedy to this day for my money. Nothing. Still waiting over a decade later.

[@currypac]

What about electrical shorts and lightning ⚡️storms ?