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[@Youthman]

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[@andrewskaterrr]

HOLD UP. The setup is a TV with it's internal Tonemapping set to OFF, as that would harm the Envy's tonemapping. Then he's switching the Envy On and Off. That means he's incorrect when he says the TV is "using it's internal Tonemapping". No, that means there's NO tonemapping going on at all, and that's why the image is insanely blown out. He needs to switch the Envy's tonemapping to OFF then switch the TV's tonemapping ON for a FAIR comparison. I just tested these same scenes on my Nvidia Shield with Tonemapping ON and OFF, and with it OFF, it looks closer to what we see here. While I know MadVR is awesome and makes a difference, I believe this demo is LYING by saying it's TV Internal Tonemapping vs Envy Tonemapping. I'll upload my quick video showing these same scenes on my C1 with and without Tonemapping.

[@HomeTheaterGamer]

Unfortunately, the setting on the LG C1 is mislabeled and a bit misleading, leading to a ton of confusion. Unless you’re running in Game Optimizer and using HGiG, the LG C1 is still doing its own tone mapping even when HDR tone mapping is set to off. It’s basically a static tone map with a roll-off that changes based on the mastered luminance metadata that is being sent to the C1. Switching HDR tone mapping to on is the C1’s dynamic tone mapping system, and switching to HGiG will hard clip any luminance values above the maximum peak luminance of the display (around 700-800 nits for the C1). Objectively, HDR tone mapping set to off on the LG C1 is the most accurate both before and after calibration when it comes to HDR10 movies and shows, provided you’re in a dark enough room. I’m not sure what display or settings they were using because I wasn’t there, but if I were to make an educated guess, it does look as though they’re using HGiG or something similar to completely disable the display’s tone mapping.

[@cllemzsamvchelsea]

Yes. I totally agree with you. This is insanely unfair. The TV color was not displaying correctly. Very unfair!!

[@SqueamishPuppet]

Yep my LG projector would do very similar to the madVR with turning tone mapping off. MadVR might give me more "pop" in dark scenes but their comparison was completely bias.

[@ascendav]

I think you’re misunderstanding how this works. When Envy is doing tone mapping, the TV is set to stay in the SDR content type. This means that it never gets an HDR flag. When tone mapping is disabled on Envy, it sends an HDR flag which forces the TV to switch content types. This was designed for the specific purpose of giving fair AB comparisons. This was confirmed to be occurring, HDR engaging, and tone mapping being on during setup in the TV. Now, could something be wrong? Absolutely, but we did double check settings and confirmed, multiple times, that tone mapping was indeed on and things were behaving as they should. No one is lying or trying to pull the covers over anyones eyes. I commented on your video comparison you made asking you if you’d like to have a chat about this. MadVR, as a company, strives to be transparent in everything we do. If something is wrong, we want to fix it. If we don’t do something well, we will come out and say it. However, during this demo, the displays manufacturer reps themselves were in the room right next door and saw the demo multiple times and even went through the demo with us. These same envy’s have also been used at MWAVE in side by side comparisons showing very similar results in front of 100+ people in direct 2 projector AB comparisons - 1 projector without Envy and 1 with. Finally, the cover art for this video was actually done by a 3rd party, not affiliated with MadVR, on a different manufactures display, of their own volition without over site by us. Again, if you believe something is wrong, come talk to us. I’ve already reached out on your videos comment section. The first time it got deleted, I’m assuming due to me including an email link, and the second time to reiterate. If there is something wrong, we want to fix it, so let us know and communicate with us. We are open to dialog and chat. I promise we don’t bite. :) Feel free to email, call, or text me. [e-mail] [phone]

[@ascendav]

@@andrewskaterrr no no. I’m not worried about the video. I think it’s a perfectly acceptable rebuttal. I want to, as much as you, make sure that everything is fair which is why I think communication is so important, but, in no way, want you to feel like you need to do anything as a result of said communication. One thing to consider here is that the camera could be doing some tricky things with exposure and other settings creating a misleading visual stage. Cameras are not ideal for things like this and can lead to some unforeseen situations. Is that what happened here? I’m not sure, but it’s a possibility. I remember the horses looking bad on the TV at the show, but how bad, I can’t exactly remember. If you’d like to chat, or have a private demo of envy, feel free to contact me and we can go over things. I think knowledge and understanding are 2 of the most important things in our industry, and because of that, I’m happy to share anything I can.

[@DesmondKarani]

Youthman, with all due respect that comparison is manipulated. You can check that horse scene on TV reviews from calibrators such as HDTV Test, it's not overblown as is shown here. Something is off.

[@adamjj85]

What was the TV and source player used for the tonemapping tests? I would agree with others commenting that it seems extreme and probably the TV was not calibrated or configured with optimal settings. It would've been nice to see a fair comparison. Otherwise, no doubt MadVR has amazing features and endgame status.

[@DLPHomeCinema]

Youthman you really need to get an Envy in your theater, you will not even believe how much of a monumental upgrade it is.

[@techcode_man]

This seems overblown. I can’t believe the TVs hdr could so much way off 😃

[@nothingtoseehere93]

MadVr envy is on my list for my end game theater. People don’t realize how amazing the constant image height processing is and I would probably have NLS turned on all the time. Really great stuff. To be fair though that hdr comparison looks super sketchy. I’m sure it’s great but this seems very exaggerated.

[@FrankieKennethL]

What scene (which movie) is the Harry Potter torture test from please? I wanna check it out in my own setup

[@MasterMark5]

Yeah I have to to say that before and after with the tone mapping test doesn't seem like everything is on the up and up. I think the big 3 tv brands do a very decent job with tone mapping and the before section they showed seemed like something was wrong, if you showed the same images/scenes on a tv in filmmaker or cinema mode I think they would be more than acceptable to most people and not super blown out like they showed. Now I know madvr is a game changer for projectors if you know what you are doing, the image stretch is an interesting feature for tvs but I would be worried you would lose a good screen % of the movie just to fill the screen.

[@JoshuaBarrio]

This appears to be an exaggerated example. Meaning the TV doesn't look calibrated at all. So when they switch their madvr on looks 100% better.

[@robzilla69]

I was thinking the same thing, it looks like the contrast is cranked up on the projector/tv to exagerate the difference.

[@Youthman]

Maybe madVR could share details on that. As with every demo, they choose content that will show the greatest difference for their demos.

[@ascendav]

This comparison isn’t fake. Neither the TV nor Envy are using calibrations, but that doesn’t discredit the test. The only things that change are on 1 side the Sony TV is doing the tone mapping and on the other Envy is doing the tone mapping. When we hit the tone mapping disable button on the Envy, Envy sends the HDR flag to the display and has it enable its own tone mapping. Please remember, these Spears and Munsil scenes are very hard for displays to render. They’re 10000 nits for that specific content. I encourage you guys at home to go get the Spears and Munsil 4k HDR disc and see what this horse scene looks at home. Harry Potter is a more real world scenario, but still shows drastic differences in the handling of the mapping. If you guys have seen the MWAVE video on Stop the Fomo’s channel, you can see direct AB comparisons with multiple displays that removes the need for enablement and disablement of envy’s tone mapping. The results in that case were the same. Very stark differences in tone mapping even allowing a lesser expensive projector to crush, in picture quality, a 3x the price display.

[@ascendav]

@@DavidSusiloUnscripted I’ve had several people come to me and say they want to do envy on a 5040 Epson. People are doing it and what you’re seeing is really how that TV did tone mapping. If you want a more unbiased example I encourage you to watch the MWAVE videos.

[@JoshuaBarrio]

@@Youthman it might make sense if the image is equal or close to the results you can get from professional calibration. So instead of paying for someone to visit and spend a few hours to fix image. Just plug and play.

[@joeygreear7099]

Great demo. I’ve always wondered what benefits MADVR really brings. These are great examples of what it does. Going to have to add it to my long list of equipment to buy

[@Youthman]

Glad you found the video helpful Joey

[@12P14D22C]

Well, yeah it does show what the envy does but also it does not. The camera can and will always influence how bright something appears. A cam is not the same as an eye so the function and general thing u see is true but the percise changes will be diffrent in real life. Also with a processing before the tv/projector you have diffrent settings in the projector as well so just jumping between these scenes on the same tv/projector is not the optimal way to show the effect. It favours the external processor. How much? I dont know. maybe its very slim but the effect is an opening for error or artefact of some kind. You would need 2 tvs one calibrated without processor and one calibrated with processor and make sure they are pretty much of the same quality. Even 2 products from the same type can have quite big diffrences. So its a very difficult thing to showcase but as an explaination what the external processor does. This is a good video. On a Projector its even more effective then on a TV since TVs share the same standards then whats on the disc while projectors cannot possibly match 1000nits and more of output so they need to tonemap everything down to their level of performance. Adding more performance for the calculation on that transition helps. Alot even depending on the solution that was implemented on the projector originally.

[@Youthman]

Thank you for your feedback. Keep in mind I'm literally looking at a TV with my own eyes, describing exactly what my eyes are seeing in real time and recording the audio and video as I'm doing it. Also, we had the madVR at our MWAVE (MidWest AV Experience) on two 150" screens showing side-by-side comparisons with 90 people in attendance. madVR made lower end projectors look better than MUCH more expensive ones.

[@mikecartagena3867]

what i find weird is with the horses there was more detail in the horses with the envy off and less detail with it on . also this seems like when bose would demo their speakers for vendors and jujust play a different track that was modified or turn off a speaker when showing the difference

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

Wow impressive Michael.

[@RicardoGarcia-xz1rz]

I preffer the crop up and down on the interstellar imax scenes.

[@codystanfield9380]

This product needs a LOT of polish before release. 16/9 is just a zoom, you lose way too much of the picture and the subtitle pop in is horrible.

[@ascendav]

Envy offers the ability to crop/zoom and/or to do non-linear stretch. You can do either or do them both. While yes, we do have it set to lose a bit of the image, we do that to share the load in order to minimize stretch. Think of it this way, It’s always best to share heavy lifting load with someone else rather than do it all alone.

[@lbudt29]

Finaly somemade a black box to get rid of the bars.

[@DLPHomeCinema]

I think a lot of you are missing the point on the tone mapping comparison - you don't use tonemapping on a TV typically, you need it for a projector. I believe Richard from MadVR was pretty clear that he was trying to simulate what a projector owner would see, same as when he simulated a scope screen to show the auto aspect correction. The typical use case for a MadVR Envy would be a projector setup not a TV, he was using the TV as an example not to try and exaggerate anything.

[@ec4146]

What kind of tv was used ? Does a more expensive tv have better video processing?

[@mfkhometheater7742]

I have to admit that is cool! I have an anamorphic lens but I assume this can be set up to work with that. A friend of mine insist that I need one of these and has already connected me with Richard. I'll have to think about it, been having a lot of unexpected expenses lately that's cutting into the theater budget... at least for now.

[@Youthman]

I’m still really all new to video processors so Richard would be the best to answer any questions you have regarding it.

[@ascendav]

Envy can work with an anamorphic lens and can actually compensate for the barrel distortion that an A-lens creates. That way, you get the benefit of added light in the screen without the detriment of added distortion. Win win!

[@the_General]

This is amazing. I use the Madvr with my mpc-hc and it handles these perfectly.

[@ksmit0111]

Can't ever see paying $$$$$ for a video processor! but hey if you have that kinda budget go for it.

[@Youthman]

Yes it’s not cheap.

[@JeeteshKenobi]

If I'm getting it correctly with the envy on a scope screen we have the lens memory always set to be zoomed. That's fine for scope content but when it changes aspect ratio to 16:9 or something taller than scope, aren't we loosing resolution by having black spaces around. Adjusting the lens memory will use all the pixels and light output which is ideal

[@ascendav]

Yes, that is correct, you do lose light and the use of that part of the panel for 16:9 on a scope screen and adjusting the lens would work. However, for multi aspect media, menus, and just ease, the constant fit just works and makes peoples lives so much easier. Think about what happens when you’re watching a scope movie and it jumps to 16:9, when you get subtitles on screen that are now off the bottom due to overscan, and a multitude of other things. Envy just makes that easier.

[@MatteAwesome]

Is this guy telling us the text management is new or something? When the FAT old 16:9 tvs came they all had this feauters. And the old flat LCD/Plasma tvs have it to. Have we forgotten about that? I never use these text management just watched movies without text.

[@juandiegogonzalez4552]

I guess my tv has madVR Eny as standart becausebI can see the horse scene pretty good

[@mikeortiz2139]

Wow, so this works for a TV too? If so this is a must have. I'll definitely have to check out the free PC version.

[@ascendav]

Envy is display agnostic. It doesn’t matter what display it is, Envy will enhance it. Even in some cases where that display doesn’t natively support HDR.

[@christopherterheyden9583]

I wonder if MadVr envy would fix my problem with dark scenes? I'm really hoping after calibrating I can get it in better🤞🤞The X1 image processing is supposed to be top notch for tone mapping. Definitely going to watch the Goblet of Fire on my projector tonight. LOL

[@sjsphotog]

very very cool technology for sure. i can only imagine how much this costs.

[@LeGarsDuCoin1]

The tone maping is exagerated to death. There is no way something will look like that out of box, with HDR you want your display to do its own tonemap based on the HDR metadata ... its misleading people here, MADvR should not "correct" or lets say change the colorist intent like it is doing in this example. Because they are basicly saying HDR dosent work if you dont use our product ...its far from true. NON LINEAR stretch ... call it by its fancy name its a zoom ... it cut large part of the picture ( jeez look at the content missing in the edge) and change director intent ... its bad and should not be used. The only nice feature is the fit of 16:9 in 2:40 container to allow 2:40 scene to be in full 2:40 in a movie with multiples aspect ratio.

[@thiagodelgado3128]

They have this feature on their application MADVR?

[@durapoker]

you lose picture on the sides using nls on a 16x9 screen to only eliminate half of the black bars size.

[@Youthman]

It goes both ways. You lose real estate (black bars) on a scope screen which isn’t ideal. I would have no problem trimming off 1’ of a large projection image to fill more of the screen. Just depends on what’s most important to you

[@DLPHomeCinema]

More importantly its much more powerful than the Lumagen.

[@Youthman]

That might be why Absolute Ultimate AV switched to selling madVR with Christie projectors.

[@DLPHomeCinema]

@@Youthman I responded with some links to screenshots comparing MadVR and Lumagen but looks like they might be getting taken down. If you are interesting in digging in deeper contact me, I have an Envy and have worked extensively on comparisons.

[@Youthman]

Unfortunately I have to block links to avoid spammers, scammers and porn links from being added int eh comments. I looked on the back end but did not see your comments being “held” for review. Feel free to email me directly at [e-mail]

[@DLPHomeCinema]

@@Youthman understood, I sent you an email thanks.

[@Youthman]

Received and replied thanks!

[@lilstubthumb]

Aspect ratio switching is one of the most annoying techniques in modern movies. Wish it wasn't even a thing. Also why does it need to change aspect ratio for subtitles? It seems like it can draw them over the image so why not just do that and not randomly shift the image?

[@wendellwendellb339]

Is this something that enhances a projector or tv with HDR or without HDR?

[@justinbeamon6624]

It would be awesome to have a walkthrough for the free PC version. It's just incredible what this is capable of.

[@kraM1t]

The dynamic tonemapping is available on the free PC version, and it's very easy to setup. Non linear stretch seems to only be on the Envy though

[@Youthman]

I don’t have an HTPC to check out the PC version.

[@Gimmesoup88]

The Casual Cinephile youtube channel, said he was gonna put together a MadVR tutorial guide in the near future 👍

[@Youthman]

Nice! That would be helpful to those that have an HTPC in their setup.

[@Gimmesoup88]

@@Youthman Indeed! 🙂

[@durapoker]

when the non linear stretch is on you're losing some of the top and bottom of the picture to be able to fill the sides.

[@Youthman]

That’s obviously true. Depends on what is important to you. IMO, there isn’t any valuable information you will be cropping off to make it matter.

[@durapoker]

@@Youthman idk I guess it's like someone wanting accurate color (Sony) vs saturated pop(Samsung).... It doesn't make a difference as far as you're not missing anything or losing enjoyment, but some ppl just want what you're supposed to see according to the creator. I'm in that category. I like accurate color and no cropping.

[@Youthman]

Yeah I get it. I’m not opposed at all to a slight crop. Lot of options in the Envy to allow you to choose what and how it corrects.

[@eddietours3728]

i wonder if you a test side by side with the Sony Master Reference Monitor to see how they look .

[@Youthman]

Considering Audio Advice Live is over and I don’t own a Sony Master Reference Monitor, it probably will not happen on this channel.

[@ascendav]

If you go watch the MWAVE content on Stop the FOMOs channel you can see some side by side comparisons though it’s not with a reference monitor.

[@eddietours3728]

@@ascendav 👍🏼

[@Quetzalcoatl0]

The non-linear stretch is just zooming in the whole image, cutting away left and right of it. So you loose a bit of the image. The cinema scope screen you are cutting top and bottom, but to be honest you will be masking those anyway so you don't care if you don't get the full 16:9. Also they don't state what TV they are using. You can have a 500$ TV and a 5000$ state of the art TV. And the instant switching i'm not sure if this can work with the TV.

[@Youthman]

I would recommend using one in person

[@gabrieltechreviews8185]

That's is NOT how NLS works

[@dextermorgan1]

What kind of TV was used and how much is this thing?

[@Echo-jg8is]

What a brilliant product and demonstration... Scared to ask how much it costs 😬

[@Youthman]

PC version is free but it is quite limited in it's capabilities and only offers tone mapping. Don’t quote me but I believe the Envy Pro is around $8,000 and the Envy Extreme is around $12,000.

[@Echo-jg8is]

@@Youthman Wow you could upgrade the screen size and projector quality for that money... But still good for high-end installations, which is its intended market I suppose ...

[@Youthman]

Same could be said for an anamorphic lens, electronic masking. There are plenty of products designed to achieve take your Home Theater to the next level.

[@gmartin0312]

Whats pricing like on one of these guys?

[@texast2595]

I love the envy extremes tone mapping ability, super powerful!! Game changer if you ask me. However... I'm struggling to understand the "linear stretch" and subtitle uses? Here's my problems: Linear stretch: it essentially is just zooming the image. My TV and pretty much any tv does this. The downside is you're losing image content. But I don't understand why this is needed in the envy when i can simply push a button on my tv that says "zoom to fill" and it does the exact same thing the envy does. Projectors have the same zoom feature, but instead of losing image content, you're losing image brightness my putting the black bars off the screen. Subtitle issue: I don't understand why there's a need for a black bar, on two line texts the upper text is over the image anyways, so now you have text over the image AND text over a black bar that's covering the image completely, which arguably is more distracting then just putting all the text over the image. It's a feature I think was completely over thought and not necessary at all.

[@RalphMoon]

Ok I'm not a Harry Potter fan so which movie is this, also the horse scene so I can see how my projection system handles these scenes? I wanna know if it's this bad on most systems....

[@ascendav]

Harry Potter is from the Goblit of Fire and the Horses are from Spears and Munsil.

[@fotophotographer]

Looks really good. However, what is glossed over is the fact that when you use the "Scope Movie on 16:9" feature, it looks like it's actually zooming the picturing such that you lose content on the both the left and right side.

[@Youthman]

My understanding is there are a lot of options within the Envy to control how the No. linear stretch works.

[@fotophotographer]

@@Youthman I'm sure. I just don't think it can be done without losing content. Having said, if I'm wrong, that would be very impressive.

[@Youthman]

It’s not going to make up data. By stretch and crop, it minimizes the amount of stretching it has to do.

[@ascendav]

@@fotophotographer you can do just the stretch if you want. It’s all user configurable. The user is allowed to dial things in to test to make the image look how they want instead of having one size fits all.

[@fotophotographer]

@@Youthman thanks for that clarification

[@dantls9536]

Can you do a Sony Vpl-vw5000es vs Sony Vpl-GTZ380 vs jvc nz9 because I would like to know if the both Sony projectors can out Perform the jvc projectors. I haven’t seen a proper projector review on both Sony projectors and I am very interested to see on what there like and vs it with the jvc nz9

[@Youthman]

You would need to go to a dealer who has those units on display

[@denniso9503]

Hey Youthman , great videos , just landed an Anthem AVm 70 and having issues with arc. May i send you my readings to decipher ?

[@Youthman]

Hey Dennis congratulations on the upgrade! I have been trying to get one in for review since they announced it with no luck. Unfortunately I’m not able to offer one on one support. It would be best to share that information in the Youthman Crew Facebook group where thousands of others can offer support.

[@denniso9503]

@@Youthman cool , I'll try that ... the readings are ok but like you I am abit of a bass lover . Its almost as though I can only get the correct/ adequate bass when the gain is 0 dB. Arc brings it down to -6.5......

[@Youthman]

several years ago, I reviewed the MRX1120 and felt ARC sucked the life out of the LFE. I even sent my ARC to Anthem to tweak. It helped but at the time, I much preferred the bass management from Audyssey. Let me know what you find out:

[@SealedOrPorted]

ARC-g allows customization of the response curve. You can create a house curve, boost bass, and room tilt to adjust what ARC-g initially proposes. Personally, I do not correct bass with ARC-g, but instead use MSO with miniDSP to even out bass response across seating. It’s a bit of work, but you can easily find HT Gamer tutorial here on YT and MSO support at AVSForum - US site. I believe a guy named Jeff has a tutorial thread.

[@denniso9503]

@@SealedOrPorted much appreciated.

[@LEMON48]

So for quick how much for Pro model ????

[@DLPHomeCinema]

MSRP $7,995.00

[@LEMON48]

@@DLPHomeCinema 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪 my 83 " oled cost 5000 .

[@DLPHomeCinema]

@@LEMON48 no doubt it's expensive. Also no doubt it's worth it for projector owners.

[@erod9088]

Wildly misleading demo.

[@Youthman]

What do you feel is misleading about the demo? I will be making videos on the Envy in my own theater room in the coming months.

[@graceonfilmsnstuff]

i love this!!

[@paulcarroll627]

Fantastic demonstration of how important a MadVR is when you own a projector with a cinema ratio screen. Expensive yes but a must have. Cheers, Michael

[@Youthman]

Glad you enjoyed the video Paul

[@BornIn82]

Take my moneeeeeey!

[@dewshbag16]

@ Youthman, I’d appreciate your advice. I’m looking to purchase my first projector and I’m interested in buying one that’s 4k, produces good contrast, and detail. my room has no windows so I’m not too concerned about ambience light and I’m not gamer so, I’m not concerned about lag input. Are there any projectors that you recommend that aren’t overly expensive? Thank you for your time.

[@Youthman]

“Overly expensive” is subjective. It really comes down to how much your budget is.

[@dewshbag16]

@@Youthman $2,000

[@Youthman]

I would consider a used Epson projector. Maybe the 5040.

[@ramsayzaki]

I love your videos and I am also a HUGE fan of the MadVR... but this guy skewed the demo majorly. This is not an unbiased demo on his part. Sorry Michael but he played you here on the tone mapping part. (But their NLS truly is magic!!)

[@Youthman]

Thanks Ramsay. My knowledge mostly resides in the audio realm. Things like tone mapping, HDR, video calibration, and video processing is a whole new world for me. Maybe I can get an Envy and do my own comparisons with my NX7 to see how much difference it makes in my own home theater.

[@SaimesierP]

Is it just me or does this seem like Media Player Classic in a box 🤔

[@Youthman]

It’s just you

[@kanekane1728]

Why does this tv have screen door effect? Also, I had a Epson 2000 projector that showed more detail on the Harry Potter demo than this did with or without MadVr.

[@knwr]

there's no way this is just "tone mapping". Looks like a good scam for people with bottomless pockets.

[@Youthman]

If you are going to be at Audio Advice Live this weekend, you can see it in person and judge for yourself whether it's a scam.

[@knwr]

@@Youthman That is fair enough, I'll reserve judgement until I can look into the tech further.

[@gufiaito69able]

7k and 14 k nothing for us regular Joe's to improve our displays 🤣 everything is for high rollers.

[@Youthman]

Fortunately, you can still achieve a great image with a modern projector. madVR is for those that want to take it to the next level.

[@balakrishnan2997]

No one will agree but the truth is madvr breaks the original image and rebuilds to your liking I will never what such bs.. that tv example that they showing is not 💯 true definitely that tv can do much better job on its own. With current tv market most of high end tv can represent 1000 nits as mastered don’t even need tone mapping and with higher nits files can be tone mapped to very good representation without that stupid 12k madvr. Don’t fall for all the things the company says.

[@hamany99]

Great product, but way overpriced. There should be a soft version of it for people who already have a powerful hardware.

[@Youthman]

That would be the Envy Pro

[@hideff4982]

2:13 LOL, I never stopped watching a demo so fast. Like trying to take wealthy enthusiasts for fools.

[@Youthman]

No problem. 97% of the people watched the video liked it.

[@mercyveritas1125]

Sry man, but madvr has much worse features and tonemapping compared to mpv

[@Youthman]

If mvp is a better fit for you, nothing wrong with that.