YouTube Copyright Fraud (Eek!)

[@Jacadamia]

If you'd like to support me and my channel, buying a t-shirt is a huge help! I do all of this on my own 💚 www.jacadamia.com Thanks for watching and hopefully this video can move the needle ever so slightly more in our favor over our corporate overlords'.

[@vogelboys74]

@@Jacadamia I don’t need it.

[@a-posingroach]

@@vogelboys74yeah you right

[@thedotgiver2820]

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[@vogelboys74]

@@thedotgiver2820 These dots are probably considered spam.

[@vogelboys74]

@Frank-un2rp Can I haz chezburger please?

[@planetclue]

youtube not only prefers the claimant in user-to-user copyright disputes, but they hand out "golden hammer" privileges to big companies for them to abuse, such as the ability to file takedowns without having to define what copyrighted material was being used, and taking down tons and tons of videos in one big sweep, making it exceptionally tedious to dispute. i used to make mods for Nintendo games, and Nintendo themselves abused their golden hammer to illegally take down my innocuous mod videos. it was not a copyright dispute, they just didn't want people to mod their Switch, so they abused the copyright takedown system to censor and silence me as they saw fit. this was back in december 2020, and i have not talked about modern Nintendo games on my channel since then out of protest. also hi i love your character, i found your channel from jon take me with you, and this is the second vid i've seen from you. keep making cool stuff man

[@mozzeralleh]

gotta love the easy to abuse copyright system that also forces you to give all your personal info to the claimer

[@Pikaeggs]

holy crap what i was not expecting you to be here

[@ElianRandomWorks]

Trust on this dude, I can confirm what he says bc I kinda used to watch his channel in the distance and I remember he just stopped doing the mods. I never wanted to follow him during those times tho bc he was mainly doing ACNH mods and I hadn't a switch so I wanted to avoid anything related to the game in order to be totally "fresh" when I play it (Spoiler it wasn't worth it bc the game is boring LOL)

[@datey_in_a_1st_taxi]

Wait ITS CLUE YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY

[@vogelboys74]

Did not expect you here.

[@ZaFakeFoilo]

The Claim (eek!)

[@filipemartinho1753]

Why are ending your sentences with Eek! (Eek!)

[@boppy423]

because we can (Eek!)

[@iamlosingmysanityrapidly]

That sounds fun! (Eek!)

[@That1One-Guy]

Yeah I find this really fun (Eek!)

[@jourdin.]

haha same (Eek!)

[@Zinshin]

why is copyright such a s*** show

[@KikoBean]

It's basically only KZbin

[@Nachotaco101]

Its done that way so that only companies (and dumbasses exploiting the system) can benefit

[@shinyrayquaza9]

Disney

[@Moltar_Railfan]

Copyright Lobbying

[@acepick4745]

this litterly is starting to remind me of roblox moderation

[@CrownePrince]

Oh yeah, get used to this. Happens a couple times a year. Happens to videos that are 8 years old. *anoints you in oil*

[@Jacadamia]

hearting this because it's you, but also *oh no*

[@homework8969]

truely a oily moment :3

[@GabrielOrSmth]

@@Jacadamia*Oh no!* Joseph Joestar: The boat didn’t work!!!! Frenchman: JOTARO’S IN THE WATER!!!!

[@vogelboys74]

@@GabrielOrSmthSpy is French. I am not ze spy.

[@GabrielOrSmth]

@@vogelboys74 Polareff. Not you. Wait SPY!!! *Guns you down*

[@MumboJumboZXC]

Another dumb thing is you when you appeal you have to hand over pretty much all your personal information to the claimant.

[@DarkestAzure]

what.

[@Piggytheman234]

Some dumbass abused that system to dox ppl :/

[@parzivalwolfram7084]

​@@DarkestAzureYup! This is because the only next step if the appeal is denied is to go to a real ass court.

[@DarkestAzure]

@@parzivalwolfram7084 oh if it’s just going to a real court then that would be way easier too win and definitely prove

[@larkohiya]

Claim the video yourself. Because it's your content. you made. What are they going to do? Claim the video? It's ALREADY claimed... By YOU. Hahahahahaha. Just use the system yourself. What's stopping you? What was stopping them? Just do it yourself.

[@Strudlll]

Hundreds of people have been talking about this, and NOTHING! NOTHING HAS CHANGED

[@SlinxTheFox]

somebody need to set up a class action or something against youtube. viacomm them in the other direction

[@dtm2741]

​@@SlinxTheFox Amazing how they are able to outright illegally fraud people without any repercussions. We're truly living in a nightmare dystopia.

[@IBZogTheGreat]

I’ve always liked the idea of boycotting KZbin until all our answers are met but it would be nigh impossible as there are just so many children constantly giving KZbin ad revenue and a doubt the brainrot channels and companies that benefit off of this would be willing to join so unless I could start a yt channel that got me beast levels of popularity (unlikely) I don’t think much will change for now

[@lockerbuddy2039]

​@@IBZogTheGreatI think it's always worth acknowledging... what is the alternative to YT? Not only do most creators use YT (for fair reason, it pays fine even if most of that money is gone due to 'copyright' and demonitization bs). Why would they switch to a diff site and get paid waaaaay less? Why would I go to a different site if all the people I watch are here? It's just a frustrating example of why we NEED competition. As much as I hate Kick, the existence of it put a bit of a fire under Twitch since it actually gained traction. Similar to YT streaming for a while. Competition forces companies to actually improve. YT has no competition, thus there's no rush to fix their dogshit copyright, bot comments and demonetization issues. Issues that even their biggest earners deal with daily. It's why they spent a good while tryna make an adblock disabler yet somehow have no solution for spam comments that say the most vile shit under nearly every video.

[@akatsukilevi]

@@lockerbuddy2039 EDIT: Not a rant, just giving my overall point of view and educated pointers due to my experience as a software developer. It may sound negative, but nothing says it is impossible, just... incredibly difficult to pull it off The issue is making a competitor. The major hurdle with this kind of services is storage and bandwidth. KZbin has A. LOT. of data. A. LOT. of videos per day, which demands a astronomical amount of server power to even handle, let alone stream to users at a reasonable time frame. This, costs money. A lot of money. And then, to make this money, you have three options: 1. Monetize the entire thing with ads, which... congratulations, you're back to KZbin 2. Make the entire platform paid(look at FloatPlane, Nebula and others. Works but... it wont get to the same level as KZbin while being paywalled) 3. Set-up donations and HOPE you can ever make enough through donations to even keep the servers running, let alone cover development and maintenance costs And on top of that, you fall on the same cycle as being a competitor in most spaces nowadays. You need content. You need to attract people to make content in your platform, but people who make content won't come to your platform because there is no users, but users won't come to your platform because there is no content. It becomes a Chicken & Egg situation, and it is extremely hard to break out from it. Not to mention that, to bring the proper content creators, they'll need some sort of revenue to be able to keep doing their things, so not only do you have the costs of the servers, but you also need to figure out a way to come up with some sort of system that allows for content creators to receive some sort of revenue. And whenever 'earning revenue' becomes a thing, there comes the opportunists and literal scammers, making obvious low effort farming content to try and extract as much revenue as possible. Which, in turns, becomes a whole cat and mouse thing to figure out whenever someone is one of those opportunists trying to break the system, or someone who's just starting out (false negatives are bad, but false positives are way worse). Not to mention that, from the moment money is involved in any way, copyright laws applies, and the copyright system is broken. KZbin has it worse because, well, we're almost daily interacting with it, so it becomes extremely obvious. Even if KZbin tried to set their foot down and try to 'fix the copyright claim system', they are forced to abide by this system. The only 'somewhat viable' system that I saw that could be a proper competitor is PeerTube(joinpeertube.org/), a peer-to-peer distributed video sharing software built on top of ActivityPub. Yet, it has major issues. Compared to KZbin: - The decentralized nature of it makes it more difficult; - It is less accessible overall; - Due to the decentralized and distributed nature of it... you end up having not-so-appropriate content on the platform; - Once again, the chicken and the egg problem: Lack of content makes adoption difficult;

[@RylanLego]

Goodness gracious this system is rough 😅 It sucks that you had to go through all of this, and I'm glad someone's making awareness about it. I hope they can fix this copyright fraud stuff in the future :/

[@UltraGamerAustin]

The man of my childhood is here

[@noahmiranda4325]

Yes! I have NEVER heard from you in a WHILE! Rylan. I used to watch your stuff!

[@Marshynite]

My literal childhood commenting in 2024 in front of my eyes

[@friscothesheriff1994]

You of all people?

[@Jace-qp8ej]

If they did the world would explode

[@FishyBoi1337]

I love how the LITERAL LAWS surrounding fair use are completely ignored for small creators but god forbid you smell a big company's IP from down the road and they claim your entire universe

[@jackpijjin4088]

Nintendo.

[@cubechan1938]

​@@jackpijjin4088I just wish *one* person would straight up ignore copyright from Nintendo just to make it a big scene to get more people's attention to that than to rub it off like it's no big deal

[@MikePainstill]

Well, what else to expect from the corporate dystopia?

[@TSF-NexusVoid]

​@@cubechan1938Bet.

[@JoonyTv]

Craziest experience i ever had was an entire vod not monetizable thanks to 30 seconds of breathing between sentences. Apparently we used some weird bollywood indian movie to sample our silence from.

[@NerdRaptor_27]

Do you know which one?

[@juststoppingby9259]

Ain't no way they're copyrighting literal breathing

[@JoonyTv]

@@NerdRaptor_27 [Video is using this songs melody: "Bongo - KATHAL KHAN KATTHUEY Dialogues only"] by "SourceAudio Holdings (music publishing) "

[@asimplekoala6687]

@@juststoppingby9259 Anything can be copyrighted if you legal loophole/bribe for it enough. Eye colours, breathing, wearing specific shirts that another character may have worn...

[@juststoppingby9259]

@@asimplekoala6687 with that logic, I might as well copyright every single big movie studio for having hair. I have hair, it's my hair, but they have hair without my permission!? 🤣

[@theforgottenkirby1614]

So, this confirms my theory that KZbin is being run by AI, right? I don’t believe a single human being can moderate copyright claims this horribly…

[@shinyrayquaza9]

Its been robots for a long time

[@Jace-qp8ej]

If it run by humans the world would explode

[@sovietdoge.7369]

Obviously, it's robots. They don't want to deal with people.

[@Thedipsh_t]

The only way a human would ever do this type of shit is if they were a bonafide dipshit

[@-Yuimie-]

2/3 of my animation videos r copy right and it’s so annoying 😢

[@luckyinky7849]

Not even private playlists are safe, I got my very first playlist deleted for some reason because there was "content inappropriate to children???". I couldn't check the playlist to delete the potentially bad stuff in the playlist. I had the bad idea to ask them to give me back my playlist before the end of the 30 days delay and they just removed my playlist completely

[@EMLtheViewer]

If only KZbin had a dedicated app specifically for children

[@luckyinky7849]

@@EMLtheViewer if only the app dedicated to children wasn't full of inappropriate content

[@flazzorb]

​@@luckyinky7849What do you mean pregnant cartoon characters playing drinking games isn't appropriate for kids?

[@juststoppingby9259]

KZbin: we deleted your stuff because we found a problem. What's that? You want to see what's the problem so that you can fix it and get our stuff back? TOO BAD

[@plshalpmeh7941]

@@flazzorb So you don't want overly sexy cartoon characters in thumbnails? A-ok with me! Here's some more literal torture and sexual tension instead! This is what the kids want, right?

[@WaddleBlock]

Glad that surasshu was able to somewhat resolve this! This actually happened to Hyper Potions since he didn’t have a claim either 😢 it took him a while to reclaim his copyright free songs 🙃

[@Tubeytime]

I think more websites should get in the habit of letting you pick a license to go with your work, like how github asks you to choose a license when creating a repo. That way, there's always a record of usage rights.

[@3xasfast811]

I love how the KZbin Twitter account said that they kick out companies and bad actors that abuse the copyright system. So why is UMG and WMG still allowed on the site, they've been abusing demonetization tools FOR YEARS. God it's so frustrating they've been doing this for ages and they're such weak people for not taking a stance and protecting their creators.

[@theedgydoormat1283]

Money, the answer is money

[@3xasfast811]

@@theedgydoormat1283 The problem is it's straight up illegal for UMG and WMG to do this and KZbin allows them to do it. There really needs to be something done because fair use is there for a reason. They say they can't mediate yet they give the corporations all the power to strike down and take revenue. There's no tools for creators to use, KZbin could do a lot that wouldn't even hurt their bottom line. A lot of it is complacency, they should be protecting their most important stakeholders that make them free content.

[@fallongarens6734]

@@3xasfast811 You don't seem to understand: Money. The answer is money.

[@lockerbuddy2039]

The fact that you have to say "KZbin Twitter account" shows a vital flaw in YT as a whole. Why in the fuck does YT not just have a messaging thing for appeals n such? Why don't they have some kind of tab involving updates, changes, rules, all laid out neatly and uodated consistently? Why do people need to literally beg YT for help on Twitter anytime they have an issue?? Meanwhile they blew a pretty penny on those Rewinds. And on that adblock disabler. What a joke of a company.

[@iluomo]

@@lockerbuddy2039 it's extremely cringe both the fact you need to talk to them on twitter and the actual responses they send out, which always sound terribly unprofessional besides not being of any use

[@ExitSignBrokeOnce]

Copyright on KZbin is honestly ass, idiots just steal songs and call it their own, someone copyrighted the Mario paint music at one point even though they don't own it whatsoever and its JUST the Mario paint music with NOTHING else added to it.

[@officiallylazlo]

They did add something to it. they added some other random song they either made or stole for like about 2 minutes or something and then they relooped the mario paint song

[@ExitSignBrokeOnce]

@@officiallylazlo Yeah but that is still stealing the song, they had it with nothing added at the end.

[@Gamertrey12]

​@@officiallylazlo nothing from it is theirs, loczip stole audio from a animation called cats or something like that and the animation used Mario paint song then added a cat rap in the anim and loczip stole it

[@Mattssz]

He never stood a chance against you Jacadamia!

[@Mattssz]

Fraudulent people like that are so ANNOYING!!

[@gabetheoof]

frrrr ​@@Mattssz

[@SparkieChu]

HE’S TOO POWERFUL!!!

[@iamewp]

You sound like an NPC bro

[@Themondaythatleftyoubroken]

@@iamewpcope

[@Kinsect101]

If I remember correctly even the video game Company Bungie had trouble with youtube's copyright system when they had it's own situation.

[@fezman7927]

Yep, someone was impersonating them and trying to hide as one of the people being struck. Ironically he kept sharing his plans to the group. I can’t exactly remember if Bungie either encouraged KZbin to change its system or tried suing KZbin on it, on top of suing the guy abusing it.

[@killerwolf9409]

@@fezman7927Bungie was fully willing to take it to court because KZbin wasn’t cooperating

[@SonicHaXD]

This honestly feels like a "tale as old as time". I've seen around a dozen people talk about the same topic. And KZbin STILL doesn't change smh~ P.S : Love your goofy little character XD

[@AbdAlHakamJunaid]

Hi!

[@gabrielaltshuler227]

Why is this type video becoming an entire new genre on youtube

[@Jacadamia]

There's a whole army of Getimis out there...

[@mixingcat5213]

Getimi Monee Goblins

[@LexYeen]

...New? Oh, you sweet summer child...

[@ovn_tamil]

...have you been in coma for the past 10 years?! 😭 Storytime animations have always been a key thing that shaped the internet

[@sofaking8646]

​@@ovn_tamilmodern internet maybe

[@CooperDooper38]

Considering people make their livelihood off this site, there should be more than enough cause to sue KZbin over wrongful misallocation of payment funds or whatever. There has to be some kind of basis for which to force KZbin to rework this system considering how easy it is for people who don't even own a song to take away your revenue even if you're following fair use for the song in the first place. Like, the level of gross negligence at play is astounding, and it makes me mad every time I see a creator I love watching has to deal with it. If you're not a KZbin creator, you can't even contact KZbin at all anymore, either. I tried to reach out about a comment of mine being wrongfully reported, and they've just removed all options to call in or chat with any support members. The site really is in a pathetic state.

[@lonelybookworm]

Yep. They need to get sued no matter what their TOS says.

[@LexYeen]

​​@@lonelybookwormif nothing else, their negligence is likely breaking their end of the agreement in the TOS, and it'd be real nice for the courts to look into it in an official capacity.

[@scrapykatofficial]

Copyright: A very big problem for people who's rely on the income and is annoying as all hell to deal with. Glad you made it through it, Jacadamia

[@Fishystyxx]

15 years!? I only heard the song like 6 months ago

[@Jacadamia]

we must honor our internet forefathers

[@BluMndy]

HOW MANY MONTHS

[@CracAintWack]

THE VOICES IN MY HEAD ARE GETTING LOUDER

[@teemteem]

i cant feel my arms

[@TZDkrystal]

You like kissing boys dont you

[@Darnsoda]

The copyright system is complete trash. I used to make animated music videos but I stopped because the videos kept getting copyrighted and blocked.

[@Bond01_]

did you ever ask the copyright holders for permission to use their music doe? Cause you legally speaking should, literally every lawyer will tell you that

[@LexYeen]

​@@Bond01_if you aren't trying to make money, and it's an animation _you made_ instead of just a clip show of someone else's work, wouldn't that be transformative work and thus fair use?

[@TheDoomBlueShell]

@@Bond01_ Let's be sincere most people only learn about music when they heard it being used in a meme or in a series, rarely people nowadays go out of their way looking for new songs, so this is literally the stepping over dimes to pick pennies mentality

[@Bond01_]

@@LexYeen No? Whether you make any money off of it or not does not matter, you are not allowed to do whatever you want with someone else's original work. If simply not making any money off of it was a determining factor at all here piracy would be perfectly legal. Fair use is primarily for purposes of commentary, that's why reaction videos can be a thing, but using someone else's work in your own is a different story entirely. You are not allowed to use copyrighted material because that would mean copying the material and redistributing it while you don't hold any rights to do so

[@Bond01_]

@@TheDoomBlueShell It is the copyright holder's right to choose to take legal action against those who infringe on their copyright. It doesn't matter if you think it's not nice or if that's a poor decision, that's your opinion. The fact of the matter is that the copyright holder has every right to decide what happens to their copyrighted work and so should be asked permission first, otherwise you're risking situations like this. Until you have explicit permission to use someone else's copyrighted material you do not have permission to use it period

[@archive94]

just a reminder that tracked music posted/downloaded from the mod archive is permitted for remix, transformations, and other things. you can't copyright a track that's on the mod archive, otherwise it'd go against their terms and they can take it off of the site. this whole shbang is just greediness on one side, and i bet 'Getimi' never even researched where the song originated from, or what it was made on, since the speed up is low quality and not even done using tracker software.

[@ParametricGold]

Tracked music uploaded to The Mod Archive can actually have copyright protection, however it can be redistributed and played freely if I remember correctly. Usually the artist, if registered, states which license (Creative Commons) applies to the song. Sadly, the two Eek! song files in The Mod Archive seem to be re-uploaded or ripped from somewhere on the Internet. This still requires that whoever wants to use it in some ways (like in a game soundtrack or commercial things) get in contact with the author to ask for permission to use. It's still just horrible to copyright claim a song you don't own nor didn't add something to make it distinct enough without permission.

[@Caymans1333]

"Human dill pickle" 💀

[@vogelboys74]

Dill Pickle Chips

[@plshalpmeh7941]

i'm hungry now

[@Skelephone69]

Goated chip flavor

[@Goobert77]

The dill pickle (human)

[@CalWhimsical]

i really liked that animation so it was a shock to hear it was hell to get it uploeaded. sorry to both you and surasshu

[@jammer1248]

Fun fact; KZbin has a selection of YT-owned channels. That means that, in theory, someone could falsely Copyright Claim KZbin's own content in an effort to show KZbin how stupid and broken this system is.

[@andrew_the_artist]

Might work, I'm not sure.

[@YuriGen2423]

​@@andrew_the_artistThey would probably get their account terminated for using that directly on a youtube video.

[@LexYeen]

​@@YuriGen2423The bot-wranglers have proven that getting new accounts isn't hard.

[@Noah-A1634]

Time to do a little Trolling

[@nyanya2757]

That one guy with a spare alt account signed into a different country with no videos: It's my time TO SHINE!

[@Katypus8]

Wow, another great video from a cool animator, talking about some big genuine issues with youtu- IS THAT PSEUDOREGALIA MUSIC!?!?

[@DAVID-ANDERSON]

Its sucks now. Content creators want to use real music in their videos and KZbin throws the copyright claim saying the music they're using are copyrighted, so people have to resort to free music for their videos, but nearly every video I see on KZbin uses the same free music that KZbin provides because its the only way to not get their video have a copyright claim and the worse annoying part is that KZbin free music now uses AI generated music.

[@InklingFan77Mettaton1936]

What A World We Sadly live In Now. This Is Why I Miss KZbin In The Early 2010's And Even Before That. Back When Life Was More Simpler And Everything Was Fine. Nowadays Though. It is Not.

[@CrowCrojoINTJ]

KZbin's Copyright System is like a joke that is just distasteful and harmful towards a targeted person

[@biggyigg]

Most of the time it’s not even used for copyright, it’s used for either people trying to submit false claims to take down videos that hurt their feelings, even though it’s under fair use, or just people that want to make money, no in between.

[@deltalunaris]

@@biggyigg Or, worse yet, to get their personal information, which forces the affected user to either (A) lawyer up and have them legally represent (extremely costly and time-consuming), (B) do nothing and have a claim/strike on their channel (costly & time-consuming for all the work put in prior), or (C) give up said information and get doxxed/swatted.

[@breni1518]

I swear. Everyone fucked up by KZbin copyright should come together and sue KZbin to oblivion

[@jackpijjin4088]

They should and they definitely could.

[@ZizZap4]

Seriously. The number of these KZbin Copyright BS videos provides ample explanation and evidence of the situation, surely that counts for something.

[@cubechan1938]

That's what I've been saying for years man

[@Prootgen]

Doubtful it’d even work, KZbin, Disney, and Nintendo they control what copyright ownership really even is.

[@salvador_piw]

I ACTUALLY found you trough the nut (Eek!) and have since speedran your channel and all your lore, thanks for making it happen!

[@Zedrinbot]

Usually with disputes like this, leeches don't ever respond and let them expire because they know if THEY escalate the situation, they can potentially be found out by youtube itself. 30 days is still way too long to allow for that, especially when users have like 7 days to respond to takedown requests. Malicious actors however will wait til 2 days remain in a dispute, then remove the claim and re-issue it, starting a completely new cycle cause it's a new claim.

[@Jacadamia]

pure evillll

[@bambimario]

When this happened with pizza tower. almost everyone in the community knew something was off since materia publishing handles the music like undertale, but no this was not a underale yellow situation, in fact the song that got took your revenue was called endless summer it was just the lap 2 song and it keeps getting repuloaded.

[@Davtwan]

To start changing the system in our favor, it’ll take some major overhauls. Regardless, it’s work that has to be at least discussed. Safe Harbor, multimedia law, automatic copyright bots, and system abuse are some of things that _need_ to be more well-known. regardless of how things look, good luck with the future you lil’ water dog you and thanks for sharing 👍

[@ZanyCat]

I once had my twitch stream muted because of a remix someone did of an Animal Crossing track, but I wasn't playing the remix. I was playing the original, but it got claimed as if it were the remix.

[@orangotheorange]

i heard the same thing happened to aria math from Minecraft, some guy made a weird remix of it and copyright claimed any videos using any little bit of the ORIGINAL song

[@tntgames-yf4ne]

Yeah, it sucks, another example of things like this was when a guy literally just stole the song "monkeys" from Mario Paint and claimed as his own

[@timmy2670]

@@tntgames-yf4ne Did that get fixed? Since it's from a big company

[@tntgames-yf4ne]

@@timmy2670 Apparently yes

[@timmy2670]

@@tntgames-yf4ne Huh neat

[@Nowheres_Channel]

People using the loophole of "Sites can't see other sites" is bullsh*t. They're still involved, therefore still just as responsible.

[@andyranimations]

Any time I stream with the Minecraft OST playing in the background, I get claimed (multiple times) by a random person like "Latin Author Perf", someone who CLEARLY does not own the rights to the Minecraft soundtrack. Doesn't stop KZbin from just handing all of the ad revenue I would have made off to some scammer who doesn't even own the tracks. The copyright system is so rife with abuse and fraud any time anyone gets a copyright claim people rightfully immediately assume it's fraudulent, and most of the time they are. Getting the video back up means you have to send your personal information to some random guy that just SAYS they own something in your video they clearly do not. To have KZbin come in and fix anything means you have to either go to court or make a huge fuss on twitter until they are forced to respond. This system is bad for both KZbin and its creators largely because of their inability to support the community and recognize obviously frivolous copyright claims

[@ManyArmedMooseDei]

Precisely the problem with the concept of an absolute “free market” system; if anyone can make any claim or do anything they wish involving monetised matter, literally anyone could get away with anything involving monetised matter, including falsely claiming trademark, creating a monopoly, etc. Without a foundation, a building would come collapse. Such is the case in other matters as well, t’would seem. I am glad the matter fadged in thine favour.

[@feature.of.jarjar24]

Trademarks would very likely cease to exist under an "absolute 'free market' system". IP law exists principally to restrict competition in favor of a select few rights holders. A lack of IP law would probably topple down giants like Disney and Comcast due to their heavy reliance on exclusive rights to creations. Out of the ashes would likely just be smaller creators. In this case, the protectionist system of KZbin backfired and the content creator failed to get the protection. If anything, our current system is the counterproductive one.

[@BarrenAcc]

Well, looking on the bright side, you got 16 extra minutes of content because of this nightmare!

[@xThisThingHerex]

creators need to band together and sue youtube. LITERALLY EVERYONE WHO HAS HAD THEIR INCOME DISTURBED should file a LAWSUIT

[@piesclips]

This was my first introduction to this channel, watching this entire video, the animation, how fluently you speak. It deserves a sub!

[@Lincoln_iscool]

Sumone buy me a “ paused my jacadamia to be here “ shirt pliss

[@Normal_Murderer]

sure, where do you live

[@zyzdzy]

@@Lincoln_iscool do not listen to the murderer. they see through you, they want a body without organs.

[@jn567]

"​@@Normal_Murderer" lol

[@Normal_Murderer]

@@jn567 They can trust me (:

[@WillowTuft]

Someone like this so I remember to come back to this reply section oml XD

[@kratangg-arang]

*Broken copyright system (Eek!)* But fr the way it completely lifts the burden of proof off of any random fraud who files a false claim, and makes challenging it Sisyphean. Seeing it affect so many creators I love over the years is so infuriating. Congrats on the W, we take those!

[@RotBrainOP]

god i absolutely hate youtube's copyright system. they really need to get human reviewers to even look at this stuff cus you were only on the tip of the iceberg. a year ago I have had all of my videos, streams etc. FALSELY taken down off of youtube through their copyright system and had my channel terminated about 3 times. everything was my own content and it should have been under the protection of fair use, but it happened anyways. when I went to go for a dispute I had no idea that they would send MY HOME ADDRESS, FULL LEGAL NAME, AND PHONE NUMBER TO THE CLAIMENT (found that shit out the hard way when all of my information was put onto twitter for a certain amount of time and was receiving spam calls from both the claiment and whoever else agreed to blow up my phone) and whats worse is that they immediately denied the disputes and it was a back and forth battle between having my channel or not. six years of work man... straight down the drain in 2 seconds to the vile piece of trash that took it upon themselves to fuck with me. youtube for the love of god PLEASE ACTUALLY FIX YOUR COPYRIGHT SYSTEM

[@user-ye8ig3eu7d]

So I had the dancing cat video in my meme back ally for a while and was always one of my favorite memes. Knowing the creator of the song is such a chill guy makes it just so much better.

[@Arctic_Storm]

I don't know what made the algorithm to put this on my homepage and why this video...but hell I already love the quality of your video(s)! :D By the way if you see this Jacadamia whats your lil avatar supposed to be because they are adorable!

[@Jacadamia]

thank you! I actually have a video about that already, lol.

[@Arctic_Storm]

@@JacadamiaYeah I actually ended up seeing it not long after watching this, but regardless I’m excited to have a channel to check out! Plus another subscriber for you lol

[@Nickikisu]

yea the same thing happened to the BFDI creators like 3 or 4 years ago, to the point even BFDI got copyrighted because of having ORIGINAL MUSIC

[@tailslefoxlol]

Tbf it was from another guy but still, THEY CANT BE COPYRIGHTING A NCS (non copyrighted song if u were wondering)

[@billybobjoe8549]

"KZbins copyright system isn't broken, the worlds is" - Tom Scott

[@jackpijjin4088]

The fact that we can get banned for copyright infringement but companies and fraudsters get ZERO REPERCUSSIONS for false claims, that's the biggest problem.

[@ConvincingPeople]

This is entirely non-apropos but your voice fits your character and is very cute. More apropos, I am deeply sorry that all this happened to you (and Surasshu and everyone else getting hit with this, for that matter). This platform is a mess, and copyright law as a system is a nightmare.

[@Jacadamia]

aw thank you!

[@-RedroseTheoneandonly-]

I want KZbin to name ten people that they have claimed that have actually tried to steal songs.

[@chetapace79]

Thank you Disney! Copyright would not be the same without you!

[@sh00t1ngst4rzz]

Same to Nintendo! You two "lovely" companies along with youtube would be a "perfect" trio to abuse the copyright system law!! 😸💢

[@JNSStudios2]

I still remember that I made a video essay about Super Mario 64, and my usage of Dire Dire Docks got claimed by somebody who made a COVER of Dire Dire Docks, with the claim saying that “video uses the songs melody.” I disputed the claim and said that cover songs shouldn’t be able to claim ownership of the original, and that if I HAD to have a claim on this video that it at least should be from the original copyright holders. The claim went away after nobody responded to the dispute.

[@malkarththebear]

I have only just recently started to take KZbin seriously, and I've already had to take down 13 videos due to fraudulent copyright claims on them (from songs that have been in the public domain for dozens of years or songs creators have publicly stated are free to use). It really feels like if KZbin doesn't do anything about this, then the system is just going to cannibalize itself to death. This isn't sustainable for creators to try and make a living on, and it's super discouraging to try and make content for it.

[@freddiefishton]

“hey youtube, i think there’s a problem with your-“ “death sentence” *channel gets deleted*

[@oliefan3722]

I once got copyright claimed for “performing random pop song.” It was a national anthem a cappella 😅

[@skycreeper0173]

I’m genuinely sorry you had to deal with all of that, just for an awesome animation video you put hours into. I’m glad things went super well in the end for you (hopefully things also go well for the song artist), and I really hope this platform starts to change their copyright claim system for the better.

[@Saucememes]

I love the the nut eek because I was a dark time with my father, so I’m sad that it got copyright so keep moving

[@KimuCola]

hi i literally JUST found your channel from the streetpass video, i love your animations!!!1 and then i saw this copyright struggle.. wow youtube isn't getting any better with copyWRONG :(

[@Everythingisjustcool]

Me: MAKING AN EDIT KZbin: COPYRIGHT! COPYRIGHT! COPYRIGHT! COPYRIGHT!

[@pumpkingyt]

Everytime I opened KZbin I always saw you counting your days away from this copyright 😭🙏

[@HonorJanas]

The system will not win!

[@AiChatSummary]

my personal beliefe is. if we all stop using youtube one of two things will happen 1 (the good ending) youtube fixes EVERYTHING people have complained about, annotations, dislikes, spam comments, 66666666, etc. 2 youtube deletes itself

[@nyanya2757]

The system will keep winning until it realizes it needs people to post actual content to work after they end up banning everyone eventually.

[@VVVVV99611]

They've been winning for years bruh

[@spoofsrocks13]

I have seen creators have their own original works copyright struck because someone else made a "cover" of it. Remember when Family Guy just took some video game footage from KZbin, then later sent the channels they stole from copyright notices? Not to mention companies taking videos down just so they can be at the top of searches. Like Microsoft taking down an 11 year old Minecraft fanfilm.

[@SpoopyChicken]

It:s been like this for the past 6-8 years. I remember false copyright abuse happening since I first started using the platform.

[@anxia-tea5846]

i remember danny gonzalez having a similar issue and he had to threaten legal action to get out of it

[@coolepic519]

This is the second time ive been hearing of how awful youtube copyright system is, and this one is a different pov. The first one, was about some dude getting doxxed because you have go hand over a ton of legal information, and the guy claiming him didnt even have anything to try copyrighting him for. And now, this video, shows how poorly the entire system is set up from an entirely different POV. Imagine having to hand over confidential information for something that doesnt make any sense and then you still have to wait a grueling amount of time just to see if they respond or not, hopefully youtube can recognize and fix this. Im glad you were able to get everything sorted out though.

[@MothmanTheFurry09]

Btw I saw a KZbinr by the name of Northflowo if I remember correctly, but anyways she had one of her videos get copyright claimed by someone with the name Christopher Larin which if anyone knows they were impersonating Christopher Larkin the creator of Hollow knights OST, but yeah KZbin copyright system is broken af.

[@rustyshackleford1910]

The crazy thing is that you can actually take public domain media and copyright it for yourself then copyright strike other people that use it. You can even sue the original person that created the media and made it free to use

[@pantantuna]

I got a copyright strike (with no impact) that said someone owned the music to green hill zone It was some Brazilian group

[@dextertek9536]

I GOT THAT LLAMA'S WITH HATS REFERENCE STABBED 37 TIMES IN THE CHEST

[@finalhazard247]

That “Bunk-ass” really got me lmaoo

[@Bobabomb]

I have literally had TWO of my accounts removed due to copyright, I really wish KZbin had systems in place to help creators rather than fighting against us. ALSO heard nothing back about both of my disputes, genuinely so disappointing and discouraging.

[@Jace-qp8ej]

If they do did the world will explode

[@cubechan1938]

Can we invent internal VPNs? To prevent KZbin from doing literally anything _to_ us?

[@ScarfKat]

I know it's not really related to the copyright stuff, but you are an AMAZING artist and animator! Also your voice fits the little goober very well, it's adorable lol. But yeah I just found your channel through that Eek animation actually, great stuff.

[@ThefourThFrOgonfoggyLane]

I got a community guidelines violation with 0 videos on my channel, not even a playlist they didn't even tell me what I did wrong

[@TheForgottenWolf]

Last I heard, People stop this abuse by making their own song, then if someone tries to copystrike a video, you also copystrike it. If a video has multiple claims? Nobody gets paid. That does include you, but if you really wanna be petty until its figured out, I heard that's how you do it.

[@mumblety]

"human dill pickle" is an insult I'll have to start using lol

[@its_stultus]

fun fact about Surasshu, he is one half of the duo Aivi & Surasshu, who did the OST of Steven Universe!!! So this song is connected to Steven Universe

[@Da_real_ton618]

All copyright claim stuff aside, this is my first time watching your animations and your animation style is REAL unique. I love it like- IT'S SO CUTE 😭

[@cherenkov_blue]

The opps (KZbin) forced him (Jacadamia) to do a cruel dance (dispute BS copyright claim)

[@calebstewart8821]

We need to start referring to this as fraud

[@jackpijjin4088]

It's the correct term!

[@CatShapedDonut]

surasshu donating the money is such a based move i wish him luck

[@corrumpted_ink69]

Man, over 1 month, for one video. I feel like those false claims are gonna bomb.

[@conservativeliberal]

animation should be protected so much especially more than the music industry

[@VexnoKomentuje]

I am making music myself, and my biggest fear is that someone steals my music. Making something creative for potentially months even, just for it to get stolen by some nerd so he could profit off it like a parasite is the most frightening thought to me. Its funny how companies like KZbin, will basically allow such kind of theft to happen. But if someone asks directly about it, they always say "oh no no its not our issue and we cant do anything about it." Bro you literally gave a green light to this guy who stole someones work smh From one side, it would be cool to achieve popularity, and be recognized. But when theres so many content thieves out there, ready to parasite from your work, i would rather want to have my own niche with few active engaged fans. Just so i can stay away from these thieves sight for longer.

[@randomperson4915]

Honestly, same- I'm not even that good, but the mere thought of someone being able to shut me down out of petty spite or greed is super discouraging for those considering content creation

[@VexnoKomentuje]

@@randomperson4915 yeah, that too. Recently someone has been copyright claiming minecraft youtubers, some company claims thst C418's songs belong to them and youtube just doesnt care

[@VexnoKomentuje]

@@randomperson4915 Also, have you posted anything yet? I would be curious ti hear

[@Brenilla]

If i had a quarter for everytime KZbin copyright system was messed up i would be able to retire and live confortably intil i die and give inheritance.

[@HyenaSuperiority]

I appreciate the already lovely animation you've done for The Nut (Eek!) even more, now, hearing about how stressful it was even just getting it posted In summary, eff the copyright system, and bless the precious fluffernutter

[@theforkedman3030]

Not surprising KZbin doesn't do background checks on people false claiming videos.

[@Kinntens]

This is the 2nd time I’ve watched content creators dreading over the system and it’s honestly enjoying to listen to their adventure (even if it’s having to wait 30 fluffing days which anyone can say is unreasonable) on how they took down some idiot who had no evidence to claiming something yet they say they do anyway

[@trainlover123trainsrock]

Am I the only one who doesn’t panic when a video gets copyright claimed? I only panic if a video gets a copyright STRIKE

[@FewixOfficial]

reasons like this is why copyright needs to have specific legal precautions set on websites so stuff like this wont be an issue

[@gamingon4547]

I have made 2 UCN videos, and I ALWAYS get a claim from some japanese band. They keep claiming to own THE DARN GRANDFATHER CLOCK.

[@TheFailPoductionz]

I love the use of Ciela’s theme at the beginning. Surprisingly fitting

[@ShooterPat]

When I started streaming again, and then subsequently stopped streaming, I had a ton of my vods copyright claimed, one of which was from a ffxiv stream where I was just doing a dungeon. Apparently, they copyright claimed the dungeon soundtrack, saying it was some remix of a song. Every single dispute timed out.

[@triktunia]

one of the things you didn't mention but I think is really bad are ai-generated topic channels. they usually have a name that's just "___ beats" with the blank part filled in with a random word and ai generated pfps and thumbnails. the songs on the channel are just stolen. people like femtanyl and milkinthemicrowave have been copyright claimed over their own song and that's just the ones I know about. there is probably an underrated artist getting their art claimed by a "honey beats" right now and that's honestly sad and pretty telling about youtube

[@hanifarroisimukhlis5989]

I kinda forgot if it's UMG or WMG (or someone else idk), but they _purposefully_ waited 29 days to reject, just to inflict extra pain.

[@csiguszfoxoup]

unrelated to this horrible mess, I could honestly just listen to you talk for days straight. so calming. made this entire stressy mess way less stressy. I am sorry you had to go through this bullshittery.

[@ArchivedFox]

the fraud claims commonly ignore the reply till the last day as there is nothing preventing from stuff. What is disgusting is that youtube requires you use their copyright system and adhere to their TOS for them to acknowledge your copyright. You shouldn't have to agree to youtube's TOS to have the legal rights aforded to you by the government's copyright system. This allows youtube to grant your copyright (in their mind) to anyone you claims ownership as long as they agree to the youtube's tos and says they own the song. I'm surprized no one hasn't sued youtube for copyright infringement for falsely attributing the song to a third party and granting them a portion of the revenue.

[@trianglesarecool]

This EXACT same this happened to me before, and when it happened I has livid.