YouTube history MADE with *THE BIG SLEEP* (1946) (rare 1945 pre-release) !!! | first time watching

[@rustincohle2135]

One of my favorite bits of movie trivia concerns this film. It goes like this: The story was so convoluted and confusing that the filmmakers couldn't figure out which character had killed the chauffeur, so they called up the author of the novel, Raymond Chandler, and asked him. Chandler was so insulted by this, saying "you guys bought the rights to the story, you're making the movie, read the book and figure it out for yourself." A couple weeks pass and Raymond Chandler called them back to apologize, saying "Hey guys, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have snapped at you. I was curious myself about who killed the chauffeur, so I browsed through my novel, and even I can't figure it out." The story is so confusing that even the author doesn't understand it. Hilarious.

[@dkhnova]

If I recall correctly, even Chandler's version of the "The Big Sleep" was cobbled together from stories that had been written as separate individual stories.

[@rustincohle2135]

@@dkhnova Huh... well, that makes a lot more sense now, doesn't it? Would explain why the storylines don't exactly mesh well into a coherent structure.

[@waterbeauty85]

Lately, many of the more prolific movie reaction channels have been reacting to the movie equivalent of McDonald's/cinematic junk food, so I'm incredibly grateful whenever you upload a new video. I guess I should be happy for quality over quantity.

[@wolandbegemotazazello]

Yeah, most of the stuff on social media isn't even popcorn.

[@danielschaeffer1294]

Precisely. Enough superheroes, sci-fi, and teenybopper slasher flicks. I DID see “Oppenheimer” in the theater, though. Great flick - it was made for literate grown-ups.

[@wolandbegemotazazello]

@@danielschaeffer1294 I haven't seen Oppenheimer yet. I did see the great BBC series, however.

[@cjmacq-vg8um]

what i've noticed is many reactors will praise any film they watch to not offend their viewers. i've heard some of the worst or most mundane movies ever made being called classics and the reactors proclaiming them their favorite movies of all time. how can anyone respect that? i keep suggesting really, REALLY great films that'll knock their sox off but they just ignore me. like they're afraid of any b&w film or any film made before 1980. its just sad and quite disheartening. i'm just tired of seeing reactions to "the godfather," "airplane" and "shawshank redemtion" and others. these aren't bad films but why do a reaction to movies that have already been reacted to 100 times?

[@wolandbegemotazazello]

@@cjmacq-vg8um Yup most social media voyuers have the common disease of commodity aesthticism, "criticism", reacting iin the name of Mammon rather than love and jouissance...

[@lcassamas]

There were things in the novel that they couldn’t be frank about in a movie in 1946. For example, in the book, when Marlowe goes into Geiger’s house, he discovers Carmen in the chair naked. Geiger was a pornographer, and he was using naked photos of Carmen to blackmail General Sternwood. Also, Lundgren was Geiger’s gay lover and was trying to set up a private funeral for the man he loved, which is why Geiger’s corpse was in the bed dressed in a Chinese costume. It is an amazing book, filled with beautiful language and nonstop action. Supposedly, they went to Chandler, who lived in La Jolla and who was working on the script for The Blue Dahlia at the time they were working on The Big Sleep, and asked him why one character had died. He said that it was because it was time for a murder and didn’t go any deeper than that.

[@SloanePaoPow]

Yes, the Hayes code really limited this movie's story telling.

[@jamesharper3933]

That's exactly right. Some people might not be aware we're dealing with pornography here. I've seen the Robert Mitchum remake which is able to reveal this. I believe it was Candy Clark that played that role. Seeing her nude sitting in that chair is something you don't get out of your mind.😃

[@billolsen4360]

Lundgren would have been real disappointed....don't think too many people would have attended services for a guy like Geiger, except maybe his blackmail victims just to make sure he's really dead.

[@festival5920]

From Marlowe's reaction, I figured it was gay pornography.

[@BALDAR222]

The screen writer for this movie was Leigh Bracket, who also wrote science fiction stories. You might better know another movie she wrote the script for; The Empire Strikes Back (Star Wars).

[@rustincohle2135]

Lawrence Kasdan is credited with the finished script of The Empire Strikes Back. Leigh Brackett wrote the initial drafts for it but almost all of it was scrapped with Kasdan's rewrites. But Lucas still wanted to honor Brackett (posthumously) for her contributions, so he gave her a screen credit for it. But in actuality, it was almost all Kasdan.

[@JayM409]

She also wrote The Big sleep, Rio Bravo, Rio Lobo, and my favourite, Hatari.

[@PlanetFeast]

Do not discredit my lady Leigh! Ha. She was dying of cancer when she took on the project. She got one draft done, the whole opening, ice scene is hers, Yoda and his world (who she called Minch), is her..and more nuggets. She turned in the first draft and sadly died within days. @@rustincohle2135

[@jeffadams7676]

I fell madly in love with Dorothy Malone because of this movie.😍

[@billolsen4360]

Dorothy made a major impression on me too, way back in my teens, in just that one scene.

[@jerrycalhounjerryleecalhou4192]

I LOVE YOUR CHOICE OF MOVIES, YOU REALLY KNOW THE CLASSICS AND ARE SO KNOWLEGIBLE.

[@ecoleman5690]

The content is very refreshing, even if the commentary runs a tad academic at times . . . Though that is, I suppose, merely one of many charms that constitute this multifaceted jewel of reaction channels. Apart, certain aspects may, at times, seem almost . . . Well, abrasive. Admittedly though taken together as a whole there manifests a certain . . . As the French say, “Je ne sais quoi” that soothes over flaws and further accentuates already exemplary qualities. Does it not, yes? No? All in all, yes! A refreshing modern take on timeless classics. A true delight. 😘🌹🎊

[@mikecaetano]

The Big Sleep definitely influenced Chinatown. Key Largo would make for a great follow up. Bogart, Bacall, Edward G. Robinson and Claire Trevor. It's one of my favorite films of all time.

[@jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344]

Perhaps, but Big Lebowski is a remake in all but name.

[@fabrisseterbrugghe8567]

I love Dark Passage for another Bogart and Bacall!

[@jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344]

My favorite Chandler movie is "Murder My Sweet." 1944. Dick Powell as Marlowe. Dick Powell is also my favorite portrayal of Marlowe on screen. I've watched the movie too many times to count.

[@btraven7536]

Also The Glass Key in this style. I like Powell better than Ladd, but William Bendix is pretty scary.

[@RetroClassic66]

30:10 The screenplay is credited to legendary author William Faulkner (himself hardly a slouch - in addition to co-writing TO HAVE AND HAVE NOT (1944) for Hawks, he won the Pulitzer Prize twice - in 1955 and 1963 - and the Nobel in 1949 for his writing), science fiction author & screenwriter Leigh Brackett (who also co-wrote RIO BRAVO (1959) for Hawks, and whose last work before her death in 1978 was an early draft of STAR WARS, Episode V: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (1980) for George Lucas), and veteran screenwriter Jules Furthman, who had an extensive list of screenwriting credits already and would later work with Hawks again, including co-writing RIO BRAVO (1959) with Brackett).

[@glennwisniewski9536]

Hey Mia, you're doing one of my all-time favorites. The convoluted plot actually makes it more intriguing to me. Each new time I see the film, I'm convinced that this will be the day I finally figure it all out. Fat chance. LOL.

[@mattx449]

Chandler wrote several novels with this character. he’s always a step behind the antagonist and often plays a punching bag for some henchmen. It’s so relatable 😂

[@longago-igo]

I think you’re going to like Gaslight. I saw it at a revival theater in Tokyo around 1987. During their Ingrid Bergman festival, I also saw her in Arch of Triumph (1948) again with Charles Boyer, as well as Charles Laughton. There’s nothing like seeing b&w films on a silver screen.

[@jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344]

5:23 The cocktail of brandy and champagne is called the Valley Forge.

[@franciscogarza2304]

Hey Mia! Since you chose Gaslight (1944) This film has the 18 year old Angela Lansbury in her film debut where she plays Nancy Oliver a young cockney maid.

[@mikecaetano]

Lansbury also really stands out in The Picture of Dorian Gray (1945).

[@BigGator5]

"She tried to sit on my lap while I was standing up." Fun Fact: Posthumously listed as one of Akira Kurosawa's 100 favorite films. Automobile Enthusiast Fact: The car that Humphrey Bogart uses in this film is the same one he used as Roy Earle in High Sierra (1940), a 1938 Plymouth DeLuxe. Written In Post Fact: In re-cutting the film, Howard Hawks removed the scene in which Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) explains the crimes. The film's success supported his growing conviction that audiences didn't care if a plot made sense as long as they had a good time. That's Hot Fact: During shooting, Howard Hawks added the strong implication that Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) and the bookstore clerk are about to make love as the scene ends. There is no such indication in the novel, but Hawks was so struck with the 19-year-old Dorothy Malone's mature sexuality that he decided to make the scene steamier. Adaptation Check Fact: The fussy persona that Marlowe adopts upon arriving in Geiger's (Theodore von Eltz) bookstore has been a subject of argument for years; Lauren Bacall said that Humphrey Bogart came up with it while Howard Hawks claimed in interviews that it was his idea. What both of them failed to notice is that it was in the original book; all Bogart did was elaborate on it.

[@jakehamilton9352]

I'll never tire of watching your super-insightful reactions. Thank you for choosing the real classics x

[@jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344]

17:40 I don't think so. Overlapping dialogue is a hallmark of Hawks. It's intentional.

[@jameswarkentin2798]

May I suggest "My Favorite Brunette" a Bob Hope movie where he steps into a case through mistaken identity. Whenever I see The Big Sleep, it reminds me of MFB. A fantastic mix of noir and comedy.

[@janetwalker5308]

You got the first version, the one rarely seen, and has a little more exposition. In the second version there's a very good scene between Marlowe and Mrs. Rutledge in a bar that's even spicier, were they talk about "horseracing". As many times as I've seen both versions, I still get confused about who did what and why. Glad you chose it though. It's great watching people see the wonderful movies from the past that I love. Thanks for your channel.

[@DanielOrme]

This film is notorious for its hard-to-follow plot. The first time I watched I was forewarned about it, so I focused extra hard and it made sense to me. That's how I know it holds together, because every time I've watched it since, I lose track of what happened. 😁According to legend, at one point in the scripting Hawks was baffled at a certain plot point, so he called Raymond Chandler himself for enlightenment and Chandler had to admit that even he didn't know. So I'm most impressed that you were able to keep it all straight all the way through.

[@wwoods66]

"Hawks was baffled at a certain plot point," Specifically, who killed the chauffeur?!

[@PlanetFeast]

Bogie went up to Leigh Brackett and said..who killed the chauffeur Im confused... and Leigh said we (her and Faulkner) dont know. So they called Chandler and he didnt know! LoL..

[@tlash544]

Great video! Leigh Brackett also adapted Chandler's The Long Goodbye for Robert Altman's 1973 film with Elliot Gould as Philip Marlowe, another great film.

[@Hayseo]

This was the first version of the movie. I saw a documentary where they said the studio made them re-shoot the scene where Lauren Bacall is wearing a veil when she’s talking to Marlo in his office. The studio president said you; “don’t cover Lauren Bacall’s face“. This is a good book, but the plot is too complicated to fit into a 90 minute movie.

[@wfoster-graham6363]

Indeed. The re-shot scene took place in a bar, and it captured the sexy banter between Bogey and Bacall in a conversation about "horse racing." Two other scenes that were re-shot included one where, after Bogey brings an inebriated Martha Vickers home, we see Bacall sashaying down the hall of the mansion in a satin robe before she questions Bogey about her sister. Another was near the end with Eddie Mars' wife.

[@billolsen4360]

Yeah! That damn veil looked like fencing mask.

[@Muirmaiden]

This is the original version of the film; a few scenes were added to capitilize on Bogart and Bacall's romance (by the time they filmed the insert scenes, they were married). The film's release was delayed while the reshoots were done and edited into the movie.

[@RetroClassic66]

9:30 The whole film was shot on soundstages on the Warner Brothers Studio lot at 4000 Warner Blvd in Burbank, CA. The rain was from rain machines, which are still used today in films (albeit newer ones are technically a bit more elaborate and sometimes larger and are frequently used outdoors as well as on soundstages).

[@josephmayo3253]

Great reaction Mia. I love that you do so many classics. One way that I've heard this movie described, is that Marlowe's case is noir, but he's not a noir character. The noir detective would get pulled into the muck. Marlowe keeps himself detached.

[@mrgclough]

I agree. He's much too orderly to be a noir character. A true noir detective would have been killed at the end or would have crawled into a bottle. True noir's don't have heroes.

[@jhonas329]

This is definitely the 1944 cut that was originally held up, although I read somewhere that it was shown to some servicemen who were on active duty while WWII was still very much in progress. Jack Warner ordered the scene of Lauren Bacall in the veil removed on the grounds that it was unflattering. He also insisted on -- as you mentioned -- the inclusion of more scenes between the two leads specifically conceived to generate more sexual tension. For reasons of length and pacing, several of the expository sequences between Bogart and Regis Toomey, along with other members of the D.A.'s office, were cut, which resulted in the final version gaining a reputation for having an even more incomprehensible plot. The scenes Between Bogart and Bacall, not present in this version, have become classics, not only for the intense "heat" and chemistry on display, but for their use of double entendres and other methods of skirting the boundaries of the Production Code. It would be well worth your time to, some day, schedule a screening of the final version of this classic.

[@leftcoaster67]

I've seen this movie many times. So I'm glad you pointed this is a different cut. Because I know I never saw the DA's office scene. And yeah I never remembered a veil on Bacall. As well as the actress that played Mona Mars is different. Pat Clark played in this one. She looked more of the part but Peggy Knudsen seemed to be less wooden.

[@paintedjaguar]

Or... there has been at least one fan edit of "The Big Sleep" that combines both official versions, so that you can view all the available scenes in one coherent narrative. I can't vouch for the quality of this particular effort, as I haven't gotten around to watching it, but often these fan productions are at least as well put together as the original cuts.

[@cliffchristie5865]

For scenes involving rain, as with the Hollywood Hills neighborhood in this film, they would typically use stage 16 at Warner Brothers. It was designed so that it could be flooded well below ground level and then drained. It's the largest stage at Warners and I worked there myself on "Poseidon" in 2005.

[@MiLikesVids]

Thanks for the great reaction! I love the bookstore where they end up opening to their tables of contents and sharing bibliographies.

[@georgemorley1029]

You’re nailing great movie after great movie - loving the Bogey streak we’re on right now, Big Sleep, Treasure of the Sierra Madre, these were staples of our family Saturday movie nights when I was growing up!

[@donkfail1]

(Re-watching the same day while writing this.) And THIS is why I wake up earlier than I need to. What a wonderful way to start the day it was; a Mia noir video and a big mug of black coffee (café noir). One of my favorite Bogart movies and one heck of a noir movie.

[@MoviesWithMia]

Your comment made my day 🥰 thanks so much for watching!

[@thomastimlin1724]

Elijah Cook Jr shows up yet again.

[@Aurora-lp9sn]

Skin glowing, hair slayed, makeup popping, commentary BODIED

[@MoviesWithMia]

YAAASSSS, THANK YOU 🥰

[@ironmaven2462]

I have never seen this version of this film before. It is definitely not the version they play on TCM. It must be the version before the rework of the additional scenes. The payoff scene with Becall in Bogarts office is completely different in the version I know. In the TCM version, it takes place in a bar with a lot of flirting and snappy dialog.

[@vincentsaia6545]

Congratulations, Mary. You are one of the VERY few people who was able to decipher the plot of this movie.

[@MoviesWithMia]

It’s Mia, and thank you 😁

[@RetroClassic66]

25:12 Mona Mars in this scene, as we see, is played by the original actress who played her, Pat Clark, not the actress who is credited with the role, Peggy Knudsen, who looks quite different (and not as blonde). Why? Because you’re not watching the final 1946 version of THE BIG SLEEP, you’re watching the 1945 pre-release version! I wondered why we hadn’t seen the famous earlier scene where Bogie & Bacall meet in a restaurant so she can hand him the check for payment and then they have a sizzling conversation about “horse racing.” Now I realize: it’s because that was the scene where Bacall meets Bogie at his office wearing a fishnet veil and hands him the check. Jack Warner didn’t like the scene as it was originally shot (what you saw, Mia), so he ordered it rewritten and reshot, and that iconic scene with its snappy and suggestive dialogue helped to make the 1946 final release of the film so successful. This is amazing! You’re the very first KZbin movie reactor to watch the 1945 pre-release version of this film! You’ve created history, Mia!

[@septemberblueuk]

Loving Mia’s Noir November 🤩 🎥 🍿

[@jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344]

26:01 That bit with the hidden gun is parodied in a Rockford Files episode with Lance White (Tom Selleck). Rockford (James Garner) actually plays a Marlowesque detective. Lance White is the perfect detective.

[@lisahumphries3898]

Gaslight is gonna be good! Love your historical reviews at the beginning.

[@minnidrake3342]

Happy holidays thank you so much for informative heartfelt reactions love rewatching these movies through your eyes ❤

[@catherinelw9365]

Terrific reaction, Mia. Your noting the similar vibe to Chinatown struck me like a lightning bolt! Very astute!

[@AnimalMagnetism1965]

"I'm just trying to follow.."..yeah, good luck with that 😂 I've only watched it once & it confused the hell out of me 😮

[@MoviesWithMia]

😂😂

[@paulpeacock1181]

Christmas movie suggestion The Bishop’s Wife starring Cary Grant or the western The Three Godfathers starring John Wayne. Also AC/DC rocks

[@bespectacledheroine7292]

Best Noirvember ever! This is an amazing film and one I actually hadn't expected to love so much because Maltese Falcon and To Have and Have Not weren't super my thing in either case but Big Sleep dodged both problems I'd had. It may be confusing still, but it has Bogart and Bacall's storied interplay. Yet unlike TH&HN, it's entirely original (I felt like that was trying to be like Casablanca too much). It's so larger than life yet so naturalistic. Kind of what you imagine your ideal detective noir to be like. Also whether you ever react to it or not Mia I highly recommend This Gun For Hire which I watched for my first time this month and fell in love with. It's cold as ice lol.

[@Hexon66]

Honest question. I'm curious, with the issues you had with the Bogie films, what is it about This Gun for Hire? I like that film as well, but for me, it has some rather difficult obstacles to overcome for suspension of disbelief.

[@bespectacledheroine7292]

@@Hexon66 It's easy to follow. I don't tend to have issues with suspension of disbelief if the movie is good.

[@edwardsighamony]

One of my favorite noirs. I saw a restoration of this many years ago in a theater. And the sound mix made it sound like the gunshots were actually happening in the theater. Everyone jumped out of their chairs whenever a gunshot happened. Even when we knew there was about to be a gunshot.

[@mildredpierce4506]

Back then the words high, tight or stiff referred to being drunk

[@gooddog2001]

I love that movie, my favorite film from Howard Hawks. I like how we only see what Marloe sees, so we have to play detective too. GREAT MOVIE!

[@erikrupp692]

I actually edited my own ultimate edition of The Big Sleep together. I took the missing DA office scene (along with the car ride scene before that) and edited it in to the 1946 version where it would have gone and the movie is better than either version as a result. It ties up loose ends and the movie actually makes more sense. And the DA office scene is pure gold, anyway. AND the running time for this ultimate edition is just a few seconds over two hours long. Perfect.

[@philowens7680]

This is not the second edited version with the extra scenes added in.

[@wfoster-graham6363]

Bogey and Bacall are on my short list of favorite screen couples, and they made four movies together. Will you be doing a reaction to their next movie together, "Dark Passage" (1947) in the future?

[@fabrisseterbrugghe8567]

Pretty Please?!?🙏☺️

[@hartspot009]

This one is best enjoyed putting the twisty un-followable plotline aside, and enjoying the ride of snappy dialogue, good acting, and an ending that SEEMS right lol.

[@vincentsaia6545]

Overlapping dialogue was a Howard Hawks trademark.

[@RetroClassic66]

9:23 Yes, that’s Geiger.

[@waldorfstatler3129]

Your observation regarding Chinatown being influenced by this film was my exact thought just before you said it.

[@ronkemperful]

One of my all-time favorites! Thanks for sharing!

[@frugalseverin2282]

You need to see "The Cheap Detective" by Neil Simon, a spoof of several Bogey films starring Peter Falk and a stellar supporting cast. Very funny. As for Christmas films try "Mixed Nuts" by Nora Ephron starring Steve Martin. It's certainly Christmasy and you'll recognize many cast members.

[@zmani4379]

Lovely reaction - this film is famous for taking us into a labyrinth of plot threads, to the point where it becomes a running gag re how disoriented we are - listening to you keeping track is like hearing the steps outlined in a geometric proof lol - Big Sleep has a series of unofficial sequels in response - and all in this series are all-time classics - we have Altman in 1973 riffing on Marlowe w Long Goodbye, and then Inherent Vice, PT Anderson's 2014 homage to Altman's film - and along the way is Big Lebowski - all these subsequent films depict Marlowe as a kind of befuddled yet somehow heroic relic of a sadly bygone era - cloaked in a shell of dazed indifference, covering the beating heart of a Romantic yet jaded idealist (essentially Bogart's persona in a nutshell) - and the films use Big Sleep as a kind of template where we journey w Marlowe thru a surreal menagerie of denizens populating this emerging new world - like a kind of sociological project - all these follow ups are like a loving lament re the fading counter-culture in the face of rising commercialism, w Marlowe standing in for the human spirit, as a witness to this (maybe a nod to what Bogie's come to represent) - on one level he's navigating smoothly, but on another he's helpless to affect this changing world - Elliot Gould gives us a boozy jazz impression of Marlowe, that Phoenix echoes in the Pynchon adap - and Bridges shows us the affinity between the 90s and the 60s in the face of a new Absurd landscape - re Howard Hawks, I feel every film he makes is a variation of Screwball Comedy, that gives all his work this breezy effervescence - in this film in particular I just noticed here that Elisha Cook letting those goons beat up Bogie is like him getting revenge for Maltese Falcon lol

[@Hexon66]

I believe this is the Pre-release version, before the attempts to spice up the romance. Most notably, the final version doesn't have the "Morris the Explainer" scene in the DA's office (where there's the perceived flub in dialogue). It's probably in part why many people have trouble following the plot, as that scene basically lays out the first half action. Also, the scene with Bacall in the netting is replaced with her in a sexier outfit with more banter. I think Eddie Mars' wife is played by another actress, as well.

[@anthonyleecollins9319]

I was about to write a similar comment. Yes, I believe this is the 1945 version. As you say, the scene in the DA's office is here, and the "horse racing" scene is missing. And Bacall wears a veil in Marlowe's office, which I believe she didn't in reshoots.

[@Hexon66]

@@anthonyleecollins9319 Yeah, I probably like the later version better, but I have to admit having that DA's office scene clears up a lot of possible confusion. And it serves as almost a perfect mid-film spine to pivot into the Mars/Regan part of the story.

[@AtomicAgePictures]

I put together a version that includes what I considered the best of the 45 and 46 versions. Including the longer edit of Marlowe searching Giger's house, and the DA scene, but leaves in the "horses" scene, and the second version of Mars' wife. Its longer, but I think it plays better with the DA scene giving the audience a chance to catch up.

[@BubbaCoop]

If you get a copy of the Blu-ray (or even the DVD) you can pick which one to watch.

[@kirpalite]

The bookstore scene is considered by many as the sexiest book store scene that ever came out of Hollywood. Dorothy Malone--- whew!

[@RetroClassic66]

9:18 You understand that they weren’t actually drinking and chatting during that interlude, right? They were…..you know. 😉😳😱😅

[@MoviesWithMia]

Oh I know 😉

[@dennismason3740]

I read the book after I saw the movie and it was just as confusing. Mia, you may be the only person to crack the story code.

[@JulioLeonFandinho]

You're right, in fact at some point Faulkner and Brackett asked Chandler about some issue that was concerning them in the story, to make it clear, and Chandler himself didn't know about it 😆😆 The way I see it, this story is all about the characters and the atmosphere and to reflect negative things in society, in a typical Raymond Chandler cynical fashion, It's not about who killed who or who made what, It's to enjoy the bitterness and melancholy of the journey

[@dennismason3740]

@@JulioLeonFandinho - I had heard that story about the writing of the film, like, 50 years ago and I thought, yes, that feels true. Thank you for the confirmation.

[@dalbhuie_youtubeaddedanumber]

When you start again, please consider Kind Hearts and Coronets for your list of movies. It's a tremedously important movie for the ground it broke and thourghly enjoyable. Rotten Tomatoes gives it a score of 100% with an audiance appreciation of 94%. IMD gives it an 8.0, while John Houston listed it as one of his favourite films.

[@bespectacledheroine7292]

This is one of the rare movies I'll call someone wrong for not appreciating. It's fairly perfect.

[@timbuktu8069]

The Big Sleep is the most complicated detective story ever written.

[@leroystea8069]

One of my most favorite movies of all time. And yes, the relationship between Bogart and Bacall was very much on fire. Not sure if the scene is in the version you saw, but their is a scene at a bar/restaurant where Bogart and Bacall's characters were sizing each other up using horse races as an analogy to sexual intimacy. It is so flirtatious. Loved everyone's comments related to the confusing plot. Loved how you were able to follow this Mia. Awesome video.

[@dennismason3740]

The screenwriter, when asked to explain the logistics of the story, said "there aren't any".

[@BobBbro]

A trademark of a Howard Hawkes film was "overlapping dialogue". It made conversation sound more like natural speech. If you see another of his films like :the Thing", where there is a lot of overlapping dialogue.

[@joshuasmith-cruz9344]

Great to see a reaction to yet another FANTASTIC Bogie and Bacall flick! Like “To Have and Have Not”, “The Big Sleep” is a really good film as I’ve seen it at least twice or three times through! As many people will agree, this one of many well-adapted noir movies ever made! There’s two more films I’d recommend watching when you get the chance, Mia which are “Dark Passage” and “Key Largo”, which I have also seen as well and because Bogie and Bacall are in those too! Lots of mystery and intrigue as well as a great story and chemistry! Definitely worth watching more than once! I hope you all had fun watching through it as I did! 😮🤩😊👍

[@fabrisseterbrugghe8567]

I love Dark Passage. Of the four films they made together, it's the one I think is underrated.

[@joshuasmith-cruz9344]

@@fabrisseterbrugghe8567 So far, I’ve seen it at least once or twice! None of the four movies are that bad, in fact all those films that feature both Bogie and Bacall became huge hits for Warner Bros.! Pretty impressive if you ask me! 😁👍

[@spyboy1964]

Mia, may I recommend another great Bogart and Bacall pairing - Key Largo. It also features great performances by Edward G Robinson, Lionel Barrymore, and especially Claire Trevor.

[@dkhnova]

3:10 ... If a movie has box office receipts roughly twice the cost of production, it's barely breaking even, considering that maybe half of the box office receipts are kept by the theaters. Maybe it was a little different in the 1940s when movie studios owned some theaters, but generally, the numbers you described wouldn't be evidence of a huge success. In fact, there are other data that show that "The Big Sleep" earned well more than double its production costs, so yes, it was a success in its initial release.

[@williamphelps3915]

This is the original version before the additional scenes were added.

[@jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344]

9:16 I looked on abebooks for a Ben-Hur 1st ed 1860 and could not find one. The earliest was Ben-Hur 1880 published by Harpers. No DJ because those weren't used back then. You can get it for $425. Lew Wallace and Ben-Hur are not as popular today as they in 1946.

[@chetcarman3530]

Is Zach the one who edited your Night Of The Hunter reaction?

[@MoviesWithMia]

Yes, he edited the reaction part of the video!

[@Steve_Blackwood]

After watching the film a few times, I just went the direct route and read the book. 😂 Made subsequent rewatches much clearer. And as a bonus, when I read those books (there are several), I *hear* Bogart. 🕵🏻

[@ricardobranchini8723]

Love the history, the INTELLIGENT comments and, of course, the réactions !!....A little movie suggestion !?.....LADY IN THE LAKE with and by Robert Montgommery (Elizabeth's dad!!). Keep it up !!

[@paulpeacock1181]

I grew up watching Bogie films and was such a big fan as a kid that I use to practice smoking like him with my candy cigarettes

[@Pamtroy]

This is based on a Raympnd Chandler novel. (In the book, she's naked when he finds her at Geiger's). Chandler's philosophy as a novelist was that there are some things you just never know. Many of his mysteries have ends that just aren't tied up neatly.

[@joefrog91]

I think this was the original version. Since I only watched your edited video, I don't know if you saw the scene where they talk about horse racing. That was one of the added scenes.

[@MoviesWithMia]

No I don’t recall that seen

[@joefrog91]

@@MoviesWithMia Oh, ok. You should definitely seek out those extra scenes. They really are good.

[@rebeccamiller2310]

I love watching old movies with you ! I saw charade at the theater when it came out . I lovethe theme song, charade! The radio version with words . I forgot the singers name . "" When we played our charade , we were like children posing? I think !

[@jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344]

This is probably my favorite Bogart role, but he's playing Marlowe like Spade.

[@billolsen4360]

It's too bad that Bogart wasn't given some narration straight out of Chandler's novel to do in this flick.

[@jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344]

22:58 "I'm no kibitzer," is good line. Definition: Look on and offer unwelcome advice, especially at a card game.

[@williamblakehall5566]

For true Bogey-Bacall sauciness, try their first collaboration, To Have and Have Not.

[@charlesblaicher7589]

I'm sorry but I had to laugh when you said you were trying to keep track of what was going on. This movie is renowned for being one of the most confusing mysteries of all time. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[@richelliott9320]

Depends on who’s in the saddle. Saw this movie in my college movie class it blew everyone away (1982)

[@robertjewell9727]

This is the 1945 cut. There's controversy about which is the better version, but I prefer the 1946 cut because the interactions between Bogie and Bacall are steamiier like the night rain on a hot neon-lit street. 😃

[@RetroClassic66]

10:16 This part is often difficult to fully understand for modern audiences, especially since Carmen is clothed and not nude (the Hays Code definitely wouldn’t have allowed that), but Carmen had been posing for pornographic photos, and Geiger was running an underground pornography ring (back then, pornography was as illegal as prostitution; the Hays Code prevented pornography from being mentioned or even clearly insinuated in the film as well). And Carmen was, as you hear Bogie say, “high as a kite”… on heroin (which also couldn’t be stated). Once you understand all this about what Carmen was doing, you understand her later actions a little bit better.

[@MoviesWithMia]

I understood the nude photos part (because why would she be posing for photos fully clothed, then be so hellbend on getting them back) but I hadn’t realized she was high on Heroin! That is DARK 😳

[@jrd33]

I initially missed the whole bookseller-as-a-front-for-selling-pornography angle. I just assumed this was a front for some unspecified illegal activity. And I certainly didn't get the "gay lover" element of the plot.

[@gooddog2001]

Bogart ask the author who killed Taylor his response " I have no idea." Bgart said after the movie was finished "We didn't know who killed who over what?"

[@donniehuynh2391]

Loved that film as well as the original Raymond Chandler book. Have you seen Written on the Wind (1956), which also stars Lauren Bacall?

[@bespectacledheroine7292]

That'll be the day should she ever react to it! I adore that film.

[@donniehuynh2391]

@@bespectacledheroine7292 Same here. I also enjoyed Robert Stack and Dorothy Malone in that film as well.

[@bespectacledheroine7292]

@@donniehuynh2391 I liken it to if A Midsummer Night's Dream if it was a tragedy as opposed to a comedy.

[@p.d.stanhope7088]

Chandler used General Sternwood as a symbol of "Old Pasadena" money of a bygone era where the daughters were his comeuppance. Hawks' favorite screenwriter post Jules Thurman was Leigh Brackett. First, she was a pulp writer in both crime and sci-fi and Hawks loved her writing style. Originally, he thought Brackett was a guy when hired to re-work The Big Sleep script when William Faulkner's alcoholism was out of control. Her last screenplay was The Empire Strikes Back (1980) with Lawrence Kasdan. The dialogue between Han Solo and Princess Leia is Brackett's trademark.

[@PlanetFeast]

Wanted to mention re: the opening re: the screenwriters. Faulkner was on the job, but was an alcoholic. Hawkes was a fan of Leigh Brackett's book and thought she was actually a man before hiring her for Big Sleep to help Faulkner. In Leighs words; Faulkner split the scenes in half and he wrote half and Leigh wrote half and just gave them all to Hawkes.

[@MisterMasterShafter1]

I'm not for sure but the "menacing" dude in the fedora looks like one of the thugs in Bogart's brilliant 'The Enforcer' a few years after this.

[@alansorensen5903]

A rarity in films: Bogart was in every scene because it's his story, just as it was in Chandler's novel.

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[@tetocoyanc68]

The screenplay of the big sleep was written in part by William Faulkner. There is one character who does not fit in anywhere both in the book and the film. That would be the stern Woods dead show for. Faulkner called Chandler while writing the screenplay and asked who killed the Chauffeur - - Chandler replied, beats me.

[@darylabrams2]

Bogart is in every scene of the film. They didn't want the audience to know more than his character.

[@bugsbunnychik9380]

If you don't mind me asking, where did you find this version? Cuz I'd like to get it on DVD

[@MoviesWithMia]

I have my copy of the movie I purchased in the description under the title “Want Your Own Copy” the link will take you to the exact dvd that I purchased!

[@bugsbunnychik9380]

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[@TTM9691]

"I never understood the cult of The Big Sleep." - Orson Welles.

[@simonrobinson1566]

This film was remade with Robert Mitchum in the early 80's, set in London I think. That version isn't widely liked, but I really liked it.

[@4CardsMan]

The villain Canino was played by Bob Steele, a kid's western hero back when.

[@BALDAR222]

FYI In 1946 Congress had already passed the Hayes act. And the the film industry had also adopted their movie codes. Because of this, you couldn't mention illegal drugs or sex; except through innuendo. So if you knew, you knew (mature audiences); and if you didn't, you asked someone older (younger viewers). Also, that kiss in the car was one of the later added scenes, as well as the scene where Bacall said "I guess I love you". As for that kiss; well, lets just call it extreme Method Acting.

[@dngillikin]

There's no such thing as the Congressional Hayes Act, and the Hays (no "e") Code under which Hollywood films operated from 1934-1968 wasn't mandated by Congress. The Hays Code was a system of self-censorship adopted by the industry in an attempt to rehabilitate Hollywood's image and to head off larger efforts of state censorship boards. (Each state had its own film censorship board with differing standards.) Ratings systems and the like are usually adopted by creative industries - film, tv, music, games, comics - to prevent the government from getting in on the act. Of course, in the 20's and 30's, Hollywood turned to a particularly heavy-handed, prudish moral scold who, unfortunately, did represent the prejudices of a large vocal segment of society (think of your typical church ladies and preachers).

[@alaninsoflo]

The story is Hawks telegrammed Chandler to ask who killed the chaffeur. Chandler's response was "I have no idea".

[@karlmortoniv2951]

In case anyone is curious, the remake is kind of fun. It can’t hold a candle to the Bogart version overall, obviously, and there is a certain slapdash quality to the filmmaking that keeps it from being even a good movie, but there is considerable pleasure to be had seeing Robert Mitchum play Phillip Marlowe - the man’s voice was made for narration. For reasons nobody seems to understand they set the remake in England, which some see as heresy but blackmail, gambling, and all that sort of sordidness travels just fine for me. Mitchum gets to play with some fantastic actors too - James Stewart plays General Sternwood, Oliver Reed plays Eddie Mars and easily aces the guy who played the part in the Hawks version, as does Richard Boone as Lash Canino. The most interesting point of comparison is that they didn’t have to twist the story to accommodate a white hot romance between the two lead actors so the 1978 version, even transplanted to England, is a more faithful adaptation than the Hawks version. Sarah Miles plays the older Sternwood sister. She and Mitchum were in “Ryan’s Daughter” together and were great pals and they make rather a lot out of their scenes. They’re deliberately not doing what Bogart and Bacall did in their version, so anyone looking for that is going to be disappointed and is also missing the point. If the 1978 “Big Sleep” sounds like too much of a departure from the source, and it is a departure, Mitchum also played Marlowe in a period version of “Farewell My Lovely” that should go down easier. I’m sorry Mitchum didn’t get to play Marlowe when he was younger, he might have given Bogart a run for his money. 😊