YouTube Music Culture Is A Mess

[@ZackarySmigel]

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[@solis_nova]

I would just like to mention here, a guy named Neil Cicirega. He is an incredibly influential person on the internet, that barely anybody but his long time fans know the scope of. He created some huge early 2000s internet stuff, such as The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny, The Potter Puppet Pals, Brodyquest, and so much more that it’s hard to explain in a short blurb. He also has a completely indie music career, by the name of Lemon Demon. Some of his songs are a lot more meme-y and jokey, I can particularly think of his EP Nature Tapes (which features BrodyQuest, Two Trucks, Jaws, and My Trains) as one, but there are some really interesting songs with genuine things to say. His newest album, Spirit Phone is insanely good and just shows how far he grew as a musician over his 20+ year run on the internet (which is still ongoing!) As i mentioned before, he is a completely indie artist. He’s signed with needlejuice, but if you know anything about needlejuice you’ll know that that basically all they do is produce the music in physical forms. All of neil’s/lemon demons success has been purely through the power of time and the internet and I find that incredibly fascinating. :)

[@BowlOfHotDogs]

No way Touch-Tone Telephone was done by the same guy that did the Harry Potter pipe bomb

[@solis_nova]

@@BowlOfHotDogs Yeeeeep! It is! You can actually recognize neil’s voice in potter puppet pals if you go back and watch em after a while - it’s weird lmao

[@SnepperStepTV]

Neil is literally one of the most talented people on the entire internet, and definitely THE most talented with his finger on the pulse of internet culture.

[@solis_nova]

@@SnepperStepTV for sure

[@Vhagaryen]

I stumbled across him in 2001 when he released a parody animation of Hyakugojuuichi (a Pokemon anime ending theme). He was certainly an early influence on my lifelong absurdist sense of humor.

[@rosemulet]

Charlie Puth actually got his origins as a KZbinr! His old songs have been long removed since he signed a record deal, but in 2010 he recorded jingles for Shane Dawson that he used in his videos. Justin Bieber was discovered on KZbin, but idk how much this one really counts as he really just uploaded a few song covers that went viral and got Usher’s attention. Troye Sivan also got his start as a pretty popular KZbinr, but as he got more popular through his music, he started to focus purely on the music. Not as well known as the people mentioned here, but there’s an artist called “Stellar” who was a somewhat successful fortnite KZbinr who turned into a musician and has had some success with it. D4vd was in a similar position but I can’t find his old Fortnite videos. Apparently he made his music originally to get past KZbinr copyright from using other people’s songs, but became way more successful than anyone was expecting.

[@rosemulet]

Also another good example is Quedeca, who went from making a KSI diss track to one of the most critically acclaimed albums of the past year. A bit different than the focus of the video, but we could even talk about artists like Rebecca Black who because popular pretty off of KZbin. Lastly, Post Malone, believe it or not, was close friends with some big Minecraft KZbinrs and would commonly hop on their channels before he became famous. He also collaborated with H3H3 as well.

[@DVGvlogs]

hold up, did he do the "you're watching shane dawson and friends..." jingle?

[@rosemulet]

@@DVGvlogs Yes, he did these kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5zOpq1_qZqnnJY

[@Xebecs]

5 years from now: "It's Every Week Cuz" - Zackary Smigel 🎵

[@SnepperStepTV]

There's a lot of good music on KZbin, but I am genuinely surprised that the fact we have Justin Bieber and other musicians that were scouted via youtube and then made a full circle to become a meme on the platform was never mentioned in this video. The history is very important to know in order to truly understand the way this platform works.

[@ahmaddimasmaulana6286]

As a huge Quadeca fan it's a crime you didn't bring up I Didn't Mean to Haunt you, an astonishingly good album coming from anyone let alone an ex fifa youtuber.

[@ZackarySmigel]

Whenever I do a part 2, he's #1 on my list. To be completely honest, I wasn't fully familiar with this event and how impactful it was until I posted this video and everyone commented about it!

[@Ten_Thousand_Locusts]

Quadrant sucks

[@blazingstar9638]

That’s an excellent point! Wth!

[@blazingstar9638]

Quadeca is dope

[@JC20XX]

I'm glad I checked out the rest of your videos. KZbin algorithm still has its moments.

[@memphislabore607]

I found aries through his youtube videos at first, but heard his music at some point after that and only realized it was him after seeing the videos he made on how he actually made those songs. It was so cool to see how these songs were made and it what inspired me to make music. Ever since I've been a huge fan of him and everything he does, and have put everyone I know onto him

[@memphislabore607]

I also found your channel through your youtube is different video which was phenomenal, and Im glad that you're getting the recognition you desirve because ive been binging your videos now and they are all amazing. Im excited to see what you have in store

[@howmuchmorecanItake]

"Logan Paul, known for his... trips to Japan" and subbed, bro that's hilarious

[@tellercamille8080]

i think making youtube videos is so much effort, making music has more passive income. and a lot of singers like ariana grande and rihanna have stopped making music for a long time because running a beauty business has more passive income

[@blo0my491]

quadeca needs his own section bro, especially on "I didn't mean to haunt you"

[@ZackarySmigel]

Maybe I'll have to make a part two. I was trying to squeeze the most and not go too far over a half hour.

[@tuckman315]

This is honestly a fantastic video and you just know it’s going to be the one to kick off your channel keep up the amazing work

[@ZackarySmigel]

Thank you so much! I hope so!

[@prime_vigilante8618]

it probably is i just got this video in my recommended section outta nowhere and already love this dude

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

Trisha started out as a tornado. Top 5 worst anime moments in history.

[@casualcrossovers6987]

I really wanted to here about your perspective on Danny Gonzalez's music and how its kind of intertwined with his content

[@amethyst0ne]

If we are talking yt music i think of Schmoyoho meme song remixes. Those were the glory days , got to see double rainbow live at the first vidcon ever … kids nowadays will never know 😢😂

[@aimee5340]

damn. I know none of these youtubers, just Oliver Tree from years ago on soundcloud... It's comfortable under this rock

[@aimee5340]

except of course the popular for drama ones

[@ItsAK9]

one of the few pretty enjoyable lengthy videos. Good stuff

[@ZackarySmigel]

Glad to hear it!

[@tunisian_stats]

I would like you to do a video about why youtube music videos don’t get that much views anymore Back in the 2010s If a song blows up it gets 1 billion views in less than a year and btw there is no music video that got 1 billion views that was uploaded in 2021 or after and out of the Top 100 most popular music videos by views only 1 was uploaded in the 2020s specifically in 2020 And even the current trendy songs let’s say "calm down" and "Flowers" only got 500-600M views So what is this weird phenomenon ? did spotify destroy youtube ? Do people watch tiktok to listen to music now ? Literally right now the only music videos who are gaining views fast are indian music videos and kids music videos And even artists aren’t gaining that much subs anymore just see on social blade

[@javiskii]

Probably someone else has commented this, I do want to point your attention to Dodie Clark, she makes very original, exploratory music. If you ever make more vids about this, I recommend you have a quick look if you get the chance 😊

[@Femaletomiserable]

Holy fuck???? I expected you to have a ton of views and subscribers when I clicked on this. And only noticed the view and sub count once I clicked. P awesome video bro, I wish you the best of luck!! If you blow up I’m a real og tho ‼️‼️‼️

[@The-Tech-Tin]

Hey Zack when does your next album drop? Can’t wait! Keep rocking!

[@damnbro_idc]

You were recommended to me. KZbin did something right.

[@aaronisacomedian]

You should do a video on music reaction channels one day. I can't pinpoint exactly why, but they give out weird vibes lol

[@randommemeaddict249]

We are waiting for the Zarkary Smigel album

[@aidanpdubois]

hope you grow huge!

[@benice2megtb]

The David bit oh my god LMAOOO😭😭

[@nightm0nkey]

Great vide bro, definitely got a like from me!🙏

[@ZackarySmigel]

Appreciate it. Legend!

[@luisabolado]

missed chance to talk about dodie! such a talent and that same mix of youtuber-musician

[@Stamnley]

The section on logan paul was weird, he's not really a musician at this point, he's a youtuber who occasionally makes crappy songs for his child fanbase. If you check his monthly spotify listeners, its only about 200,000, showing that in comparison to his youtube, no one is listening, because it's bad. It feels insulting to bring him up in the same breath as other artists and not mention how universally disliked and unpopular his music is outside of his child fanbase. Also, saying that ricegum's content "continues to be popular" without mentioning that he hasn't made a song in years(and has even fewer monthly listeners than logan paul) and does family vlogs on a seperate channel is odd. The video is good but it's strange how reluctant you are to critize obviously bad artists who are/were only making music for the money/ youtube clout.

[@ZackarySmigel]

Thanks for the comment! Maybe I didn't convey the point well enough. This isn't really a definitive ranking of how well their music is. If that was the case I would have made a tier list video or something like that. But those videos already exist. I was trying to explain how impactful these KZbinrs were to KZbin Music and its culture. Yes, Logan Paul's music is universally disliked but when he started doing music it was a monumental cultural event on KZbin. All the reaction videos, diss tracks, etc. Same thing with Ricegum. Ricegum's Its Every Night Sis was a cultural event like no other. And yeah I said his content continues to be popular, I could have been more specific there. But for the record, I wasn't really covering their KZbin careers just their music careers if that makes sense.

[@Stamnley]

@@ZackarySmigel That's a fair point and if that is wha you were going for then fair enough. But if youtube is going to continue to produce good musicians like joji or quadeca then the stigma of these artists needs to removed from people's minds so I get quite defensive when they're brought up at the same time as better artists that actually deserve respect from the wider music scene as conflating them hurts the real artists. Cool video tho I really liked it.

[@AbbeeRambles]

Corpse Husband is another fantastic youtuber/musician example. He's such a legend.

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

Yeah well I didn't know that Oliver Tree was really a "KZbinr" per say besides Lindsey Stirling because well yeah she was here way back then when Skrillex came around and whatnot :P

[@captainjoy8976]

The only youtubers music i support is Naomi Jon's music. Seriously, look into her stuff :) She used to "joke" sing in every other video and posted covers on her insta. I think plenty people encouraged her to go that route and her visuals, costumes and music are genuinely good! She also still does her regular content besides that :)

[@buzztree9123]

If xQc raps we need a deciphering

[@FunctionallyLiteratePerson]

I actually didn't realize When I'm Down (Oliver Tree) was viral on Spotify. I thought I randomly discovered it by myself in 2016 via one of my radios since nobody else I knew really used Spotify. TIL. Haven't listened much to Oliver Tree since, but that's just because I mostly listen to the same stuff over snd over unless a friend shows me new stuffm

[@DevastationIndustries]

I just like to make content because it helps me feel not sad.

[@Lovehandels]

My favorite youtuber music guy is Roomie/ Lil Pitchy, his songs are a bop!

[@Xela_Redna]

KZbinrs been doing this forever, really ain't anything new. Ray William Johnson/ Your Favorite Martian, Timothy DeLaGhetto, Chester See, Lil Moco, ect.

[@KMFDM_Kid2000]

"Joji" will **ALWAYS** be Filthy Frank, Papa Franku to me.

[@flaskamper7907]

Great video, glad I came across your channel. I'm suprised though you didn't bring up Epic Rap Battles of History. I think just in terms of sheer numbers they're for sure some of the most successful youtuber musicians.

[@BEMEiTY]

RIP to Christina Grimmie. Otherwise, she of been on this list too.

[@Foolsdew]

awesome video!!! dammit david lmao

[@ZackarySmigel]

Thanks man! Lol

[@DarknessFlameMedia]

feels like you are missing important people

[@JamishioASMR]

i freaking love oliver tree

[@ZackarySmigel]

Oliver Tree is definitely legit.

[@D1ne-O-SAur]

Would've been awesome to see connor price in there. But amazing video nonetheless

[@interstellarator]

Kinda see you making music or becoming an actor xD you could totally replace Jack Black :P

[@silvershadchan4085]

@ZackarySmigel could you please make a video about KZbin Movie Culture Is A Mess

[@sadmermaid]

Dev lemons/queef jerky/quandonka

[@Landon_C_Official]

I think person you did not mention is Wilbur soot/Lovejoy. Lovejoy is in my top 5 for artists/bands and they are legitimately amazing.

[@vashistreddytadi]

FRRR bruh

[@AlpacaEmperor]

Pink Guy's raps was a lot better than Joji

[@JJ_Smilez]

Dammit David get out of here!😂

[@noticiasinmundicias]

wtf joji is a youtuber?

[@atillaisnear]

i think its fine to make a song or something for a joke. but a full career change is a lot 🤣

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

I love Nakey Jakey, Marc Rebillet funny enough for just being so widely all over the place with what he does but also KSI for some reason, I love him for his past content mainly just like Joji but I just see myself trying to understand and support there work anyways even if I don't really like or vibe with there music :P I do not like Rice Gum and hate Jake Paul though for obvious reasons there past careers have been stained on the web

[@lukeclark5030]

All these "musicians" suck. The people that like their shit are sad

[@djmckee5941]

i think you missed a lot of key people and points in this video. quadeca deserved way more of a shoutout than just being lumped on with all the honorable mentions that weren’t interesting enough to get their own section. he’s had an insane artistic glowup as he’s transformed from a fifa youtuber who made a diss track to a genuinely impressive musician who has made two incredibly beautiful albums that were basically albums of the year for 2021 and 2022.i was also surprised you didn’t talk about wilbur soot and his band lovejoy, who are easily the most successful non-rap musicians to come from youtube. they have millions of monthly spotify listeners and have played at festivals like lollapalooza. some other notable youtube musicians you didn’t mention would be brian david gilbert, neil cicirega (who is pretty much the father of youtuber musicians), dodie and ren, who are both british musicians first that gained a following mainly through youtube, token, who also got popular through youtube, much older “youtube rappers” like watsky and mac lethal, and of course the entirety of “theorytube”, a bunch of professional musicians who make youtube videos about music (andrew huang, rob scallon, roomie, adam neely, yvette young of the band covet, tim henson of the band polyphia, justin hawkins of the band the darkness, emily hopkins, marty schwartz, mary spender, samuraiguitarist, music is win, etc.). i get that you probably didn’t talk about some things because the video is already half an hour, but i also feel like you only barely scratched the surface of the wild world that is youtube musicians. perhaps you could make a part 2 sometime?

[@docccctc]

this isnt top ten fortnite biggest bootie twerk off wtf

[@ZackarySmigel]

Maybe next video? lol

[@bradipogio]

get a better camera, these quality videos deserve it... even the chroma key deserves it! he is in so much pain

[@afraidto]

I LOVE JOJI THO

[@eggi4443]

be for real

[@afraidto]

@@eggi4443 i am

[@108kitsune]

honestly you can tell this is written from a traditional music standpoint.... Your opinion is kinda crap on this.... Sorry love some of your other content!

[@SlayFreddySlay]

ARIES THE GOAT

[@paulkurelko7593]

Do a video on the debate on mj, lebron, kobe, etc... as the Goat of NBA

[@silvershadchan4085]

@ZackarySmigel could you please make a video about KZbin Movie Culture Is A Mess