YouTuber LARRY GRAVES, aka the Canadian Studmuffin |

Vinyl community and comedian KZbinr Larry Graves had his channel de-monitized after 18 years of entertaining his many fans. Matt and Larry have a discussion about the "cancellation" and about several other vinyl community topics such as accepting box sets for free.
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[@johnheaton5667]

Great video guys…fully supportive of you Larry…your catch phrase ‘it’s a 10 out of 10’ is legendary! all the best john

[@OutOnTheTiles]

Larry is a great guy. Good interview. ✌️🇨🇦

[@charliewelch6859]

I've never really followed Larry but what little I've seen and heard, he does a super job. Good on you for helping Larry.

[@RickM01]

Great discussion! Looking forward to Moby Grape!

[@morrisgautreau6704]

Awesome interview! Larry is my main guy, besides another music reaction channel, he's the only other channel I Patreon! Because of his originality and uniqueness and his down to earth personality (doesn't hurt that he's a Sparks fan, which is how I found him) is why I love him. Larry does not deserve the BS from YT!

[@bme1553]

Thank you for doing the Beach Boys series Matt, and the incredible amount of research you did in that. I appreciate the breadth and depth of it your series on the BB. That may be one that is more of a commitment due to being a 5 or 6 parter, so its more of the hardcore viewers who will watch, but its still an important endeavor.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you, it was well worth the time and maybe its day will come.

[@erniericardo8140]

High Quality Entertainment having Larry on Pop Goes The 60's 👍 interesting discussion,Wishing Larry All the best on his new channel. Happy 4th of July Matt 💢💥

[@ernestcruz6316]

I've been one of Larry's subscribers for two years now, and the biggest reason is his uniqueness (if that's even a word, but it fits). He's a very genuine, unique individual in a medium where so many content providers are going after the lowest common denominator with sheer spectacle (e.g., mukbang videos or suggestive video content).

[@jackybluj]

Oh, I liked this interview very much! Guess who is now one of Larry's new viewers? It was such a fun and interesting interview! You keep finding gold Matt!

[@LarryGravesCanadianStudmuffin]

Thank you!

[@robertsagers5355]

This is great! I love that you gave Larry props for inspiring you to take up videos. So cool. I really appreciate all the work you both put in for us!

[@nowhereman6496]

Love both your channels. I've always thought I should have my own channel, but, like what you both spoke about and the sometime difficulties in dealing with the public, I determined I vicariously live thru your channels as well as John Heaton's, Mean Mr Mayo's, and others. So, keep up the good fight and, just be honest to who you are.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thanks Nowhereman.

[@stealthbastard8837]

I'm subscribed to both your channels, this was great guys

[@matthewstreet1961]

Two fantastic channels! Two great guys! Together! Thanks for supporting Larry! Loved the conversation, especially in the middle section where you were both open about “free box sets” and the reasons behind why people do and don’t receive them. A very true and honest assessment! Cheers, Matt 😎👍❤️☘️😊🙏

[@LarryGravesCanadianStudmuffin]

Thank you Matt, and thank you for the support! I have another rant video about KZbin today coming up.

[@billleary5779]

Very enjoyable video. I am a subscriber to both channels and it’s great to see the two of you a having a conversation about music. Thanks for sharing!

[@LarryGravesCanadianStudmuffin]

Thank you for interviewing me, Matt and promoting my 2nd channel. By the way, a few hours after this interview I received another email from KZbin for 2 copyright notices for my own videos from 6 years ago, which are 100% original. I'll be disputing that and just posted a video on the matter. KZbin claims part of the content is owned by RHEI Entertainment, which is the network I have been with for many years!

[@davidthompson4649]

good luck with that.!!!

[@popgoesthe60s52]

The saga continues. Well, you have a great following and looks like you have a second chance with your other channel. Thanks for coming on!

[@LarryGravesCanadianStudmuffin]

@@popgoesthe60s52 Thanks Matt!

[@jackybluj]

That stinks! I am irritated by this! I think that I must stand up and subscribe! Vive la revulcion!! 🇺🇸 🇨🇦

[@Monica-uo3vg]

Hey Larry what’s your stance on being on the trump propaganda show Rachel’s ghost? Is that what you want to be known for?

[@michaelholycross2633]

Matt, as long as you stick to your principles, I'm not going anywhere. Thank you for everything you do.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thanks Michael!

[@saeba2393]

one of the greastest crossovers on youtube! glad to see you having Larry on as a guest. great video Matt!

[@ijeff2005]

Kudos to the shout-out for McCartney's "Chaos and Creation". That album re-started my interest in McCartney's new music and the follow-up "Memory Almost full" was just as good though quite different from its predecessor. The next one "New" was pretty good though not quite as good as the other two. After that its been downhill for Mac. He can still turn a good tune once in awhile, but after "New" his voice went quickly into a downward spiral. Maybe he should talk to Ringo to see how he can get his voice to sound better in his late 70's/early 80's!

[@simplechronology2605]

Do I see "Grape Jam" next to your desk? Is this a hint that a Moby Grape retrospective is on the horizon? That'll be a fun one!

[@false_binary]

Because you deliver honest, thoughtful takes, I continue to be a faithful subscriber (re reviews discussion). Agreed that Mind Games is not worthy of a box set (cash grab?) and google's model with YT sucks.

[@mano1971music]

I've been a faithful subscriber and follower of BOTH of your channels (Pop Goes the 60's and Canadian Studmuffin) and have learned so much about artist / bands because of your devotion and knowledge of music. Thank you Matt and Larry !!

[@ralphacton]

Great discussion. I'm a fan of Larry's channel and the Beatles, but it's nice to hear someone else's opinion.

[@BenjaminNavillus]

Good on you Matt for supporting a fellow KZbinr who's (absolutely justifiably) in a state of frustration and somewhat bewilderment about his situation. I hope KZbin get round to just simply explaining what the issue is to Larry. I certainly know that if I were in a job and got fired without having the faintest notion of what the cause of it all was, my head would be spinning to say the very least. Well done Matt and good luck Larry.

[@misternewoutlook5437]

So we get a sneak peak at Matt's upcoming band bio projects. I think youtube is so saturated with Beach Boys content, a lot of stuff gets lost in the forest. So the big bands of the 1960s are difficult to create a new perspective. The Beatles are also very saturated into youtube, but there is also a lot of nuance people have dug into with them.

[@adamfindlay7091]

Larry's the genuine article You Tube master.

[@masseysmaineentertainment]

great interview Larry - !!

[@canadianstudmuffin]

Thank you, Brian!

[@jameswatson5370]

That's a bummer to hear about the reaction to your Beach Boys series. I'm a diehard fan and I enjoyed it very much. And I've watched a ton of content on them. I agree, in the years to come it'll be available online so after band members leave us and when new fans start to look for information into them, it'll surely get its due. (btw, I hit the thumbs up button for each video, so I did all I could 😜)

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you, James!

[@mikahattunen4502]

I also like that you give this man some help in need. Seems like he is the victim of too strict KZbin.

[@DollyG-z3c]

Bingo 25:52! Why am I not surprised that you're not getting stuff from the Lennon estate... I don't expect Antony Rotunno is receiving any gifts from them, either. There's only one acceptable Yoko narrative, sadly. Thanks for keeping it real!

[@jedikiah1541]

I agree with many of your views, Matt. It is good to have an honest opinion. I enjoy Larry, too. He often makes me smile, and he also reviews a few artists that aren't as widely chosen by You Tubers. Both of you are pretty straight to the point which is very refreshing. Some KZbinrs can take forever getting to the point (not mentioning any names!) - especially in the group discussions. I sometimes have to turn them off. I think John Heaton is always interesting and honest, also, in his opinion. Although i don't rank the album as high as he does, what he says about Mind Games is consistent with his previous review from a while back, so i don't believe he's being biased. I do wonder, though, whether he would have bothered to review it if he hadn't been given a copy from Sean and Yoko. He shares my views about the outrageous price of these deluxe editions, and whether they are really necessary. Many of them i know he's skipped making a video about. Mind Games is a mediocre album by John Lennon's standards, but from the odd things i've heard on You Tube, it benefits more than most deluxe editions from a remix, so i'll definitely be listening out for it, but won't be buying it.

[@jasontheoldmillennial7197]

So cool to see Larry Graves on the channel. I was introduced to him from Glen Kellaway from the Basement. I like his reactions to different lists.

[@thingsthathappenedtomymoth2816]

As always, I want to comment on every point. Most interesting video!

[@tunesdonebyone3428]

Great to see 2 GIANTS of YT together! The thing I love about both of you is your love of music.

[@invisibleray6987]

As for the Beach Boys, I've never met a Huge BB fan, certainly not in Britain, I think people dig individual songs, but Pet Sounds isn't in many collections, their popularity in the UK peaked in the late 70s with the advert for 20 Golden Greats

[@popgoesthe60s52]

I guess the 20 Golden Greats is the single album version of Endless Summer, which ended their relevance. The fawning over Pet Sounds by Brian Wilson fans is a reaction to the Beach Boys being overshadowed by all the other classic rock groups. Sore losers.

[@jeffkaufman9875]

Who is it?…

[@joshcater]

Hello, Matt! Your channel is easily my favorite on KZbin, as I appreciate your honesty and expertise. While it may have been at the very least a nice gesture from the Lennons to send the box set your way, I think it actually benefits your content having not been given the set. I share many of the same sentiments about Mind Games, and ultimately, the Remixed album will still be the same collection of songs, and are likely to evoke similar feelings as the original 1973 mix.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you, Josh. I would send any music back that was a gift for the reason you point out. I can't be accused of bias because of the gift. It's a more comfortable position to offer critique from.

[@frugalseverin2282]

I have a 1993 2 CD set of Moby Grape called "Vintage". It sits between my other 2 CD sets by Steppenwolf and Santana.

[@roygoad2870]

The Electric Prunes would certainly be worth some attention on your channel. Especially as the lead singer is still very much alive and a cool guy, who gives great entertaining interviews! Plus he still performs and there’s some recent shows on You Tube. They were an excellent band and very original. Wow as I wrote this Larry mentioned the Electric Prunes, must be psychic 😊. Kaleidoscope the English version were also great for there time. Eddy Pumer the lead vocalist is also still performing in a reformed Kaleidoscope!

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Another vote for the Prunes! Thanks Roy.

[@simplechronology2605]

I'd love to see the Electric Prunes too. They are also one of the only (THE only?) 1960s bands whose 2000s reunion albums are arguably better than their original 60s output...

[@janetsampson1779]

Everyone loves Larry Graves the Canadian Studmuffin,he's like a big teddy bear,leave Larry alone!,just look at that face!,come on! Bob

[@kromedome0101]

They're spot on about Ringo.

[@afeitealperro6079]

Great crossover, two of my favorite channels!

[@aminahmed2220]

What a fantastic video have a wonderful day Matt also happy independence day to the United states also I enjoy Larry's channel ❤😊 to be honest ❤😊

[@denniswood1437]

They kicked off Larry without actually telling him what he did to remove him from monetization. How can he remedy the situation without specific directives? I guess just doing the best he can. I hope his other channel grows.

[@gerrylambert5225]

After hearing your comments on Eagles and Sharon Osbourne I will go and purchase Chinese copy box sets of Sabbath and Eagles cds

[@tomasfagerberg6323]

I think Who Cares was a hit. Very simple but vety effective. And catchy. Just listen to the frugal organ. Just a broken tried but at the right time. Very tastful. I love it.

[@pleasantvalleypickerca7681]

I'd guess the Paul Revere and the Raiders video did well is because there are many fans like myself who are familiar of how great a band they were and yet almost no one makes serious videos examining their career as you did.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Yeah, that must be a reason. I was very surprised that video series has done so well.

[@shyman99]

Larry and I started YT the same year. But my journey has been different because I refuse to provide content due to the horrors shared by content providers. The lack of communication from YT is unforgiveable. Anyone who relies on making a living or supplementing their income using YT will regret it eventually. To borrow a line from an old song, "If I had to rely on YT, I'd rather drive a truck".

[@ronfowlermusic]

Rick Nelson.

[@BillGaliette]

Interesting. I liked your Beach Boys series a lot. Odd it didn’t get more views. I really liked the presentation and thought it was well done.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@elirosen1391]

Great interview Matt. That Larry is quite a character. It's miraculous that you were able to have an open and solid discussion with him. Also, I may have asked you this already, but do you plan to do a video on The Aerovons or The Minah Birds?

[@popgoesthe60s52]

The Mynah Birds will probably get mention in another band video. They have very little recorded material and they are only mentionable because of the band members, not the music. The Aerovons album is pretty good so I may do that as well. I need to research them a bit more.

[@joeyvocals1]

This is just atrocious behavior by KZbin! They act like they are the almighty, and they are so not! My friend on pop goes the 60s, is also tremendous! God bless both of you, Joey in Cleveland

[@bobberndt9744]

Hmmm, Buckinghams. Leads to Aliotta, Haynes, Jeremiah and their 101 offshoots. Only one that comes to mind off the top of my head is Cowboy. But there are more famous (infamous ?) ones.

[@mjanovec]

I think other channels get the complimentary box sets because they focus more on news and reviews for current reissues. Your channel seems more focused on band histories and reviews of old releases. While you do the occasional review of a new reissue, it’s not the norm for your channel.

[@mishapanfilov]

❤

[@tunesdonebyone3428]

I agree Matt that every single freaking album doesn't warrant a colossal gigantic tremendous box set. Kinda takes away from the ones that DO.

[@jblassio]

Matt Williamson is an authority in music journalism because he is unbiased and well researched via books written on the subject and articles of the day and interviews. I’m kinda glad that Matt isn’t beholden to “sponsoring” or particular artists. He can tell the truth and even make reasonable conclusions about the events.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

I like the position I'm in to be able to offer commentary with our worrying about whether I'll be getting the next box.

[@jblassio]

@@popgoesthe60s52 Absolutely! Thats the appeal of your channel. You seek truth and love that you debunk some of the bias journalism that’s out there. I think the work you’re doing is valuable.

[@drummer78]

Regarding Matt’s comment about Yoko doing a live show and whether people would attend…I have a bit of a story. I was nearby the old Music Hall in Boston before a Yoko Ono show in what I think was 1985 or 1986 (yes, I’m that old). Looking back, it must have been a tour for the “StarPeace” album. Anyway, outside there was a person who was an employee at the venue literally asking people if they wanted tickets to the show. The guy was giving them out. Not many people took them. I remember feeling bad for Yoko.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

She is acquired taste!

[@GreigStott]

Good guy is Larry, thanks for sharing the conversation, Matt, all the best!

[@michaelbuday5630]

Hey Matt! I used to be a regular viewer of Larry Graves original KZbin channel a few years ago. And since hearing of his debacle with YT on the Michael Noland channel I re-subscribed to both his channels. I'm halfway through this video here, but I find it wonderful how you and Michael Noland have stepped up to the plate to support Mr. Graves. It's nice to see the people I watch on YT supporting each other. I think it's important to have that support group. May all 3 of you thrive in the future, and continue to all give great content to us the viewers.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thanks Michael. We do need to stick together!

[@beatlz6561]

Maybe the Beach Boys got fewer because there is more already out there and their history is already more well known. How many Paul Revere and the Raiders documentaries are there? Not many I bet. I think your histories about the lesser known bands are great and what is really needed. Just my opinion.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Could be. I think the Beach Boys series still has some growth potential so I will keep an eye on it!

[@ronfowlermusic]

Thank you Matt for supporting high quality entertainment.

[@spaceengineer1452]

Leviathan, a subliminal artist had a video "everything always works out in your favor". It had 10 million views. He hadn't posted a video in years. His entire channel was cancelled. No one knows why. The videos made ppl feel better about their lives ?? Love Larry's content....even the ...comedy.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

The arbitrariness of the cancelling is concerning.

[@spaceengineer1452]

@@popgoesthe60s52 Very. With no explanations given....

[@tomasfagerberg6323]

I think of yet another reason why you Matt didn't get a free copy og MG. Recently you've been quite critical to some new releases from The Beatles or their solo carerr s; "do we really need this? I'm not gonna buy this" 😊

[@tomasfagerberg6323]

I'm a very critical listener. For many years I didn't like Maccas records, but I bought them anyway. Now when I'm going back and really listen to the records I found a lot of good stuff. And I was very surprised when Egypt station came out. That's a very good record. But Macca has shifted from writing fantastic melodies to making great arrangements. And you need to skip over the first songs on Egypt station (start with no 10 on CD 1). Just as you need to skip over the first song om Memory almost full. I hate that side of him.

[@djacobmadrigal]

There’s no human element to fighting for your channel. I don’t understand why there isn’t a customer service number to talk to a human. It’s ridiculous.

[@1rwjwith]

Just a question…Is RUMBLE a viable option? I don’t know myself?

[@popgoesthe60s52]

KZbin has a monopoly because they invented the medium then it was bought by Google. We could get away with playing music on rumble, there is a reason that can be - so few watch it compared to YT that it is not a money making option, at least now.

[@1rwjwith]

@@popgoesthe60s52 yeah thats what it seems to be…maybe alternative platforms will develop.

[@jefferymueller2849]

Has he considered going to Rumble?

[@bobburroughs6241]

I've followed Larry, I guess he's a sweetie, but sometimes some odd views and he doesn't think much of Steely Dan! Unforgivable I'm afraid, they can't all be Black Sabbath, Donovan or Jethro Tull! 🤣 Time for Moby Grape that's waiting behind you Matt!

[@popgoesthe60s52]

He doesn't like Steely Dan?!? Wait til I get a hold of him!

[@bobburroughs6241]

@@popgoesthe60s52 🤣

[@erniericardo8140]

Wh-Wha-What Larry doesnt like Steely Dan!?!?

[@bobburroughs6241]

@@erniericardo8140 Nope, he passes them by when reviewing hit lists.

[@4-dman464]

Broadcasters should mirror their vids on an alternative network I cannot even mention in comments. This requires next to no effort because the broadcaster has already made the vids for yt. Even though this will seem pointless because viewing figures are so small. This imperceptibly builds viewers elsewhere. Years later, it may be a safety net.

[@mikahattunen4502]

Agree that Mind Games Box Set is not deserved. It's not a big album. Bringing the dynamics front and get rid of the muddiness in production in a remixed release, but you don't need a whole box set to do that.

[@ChaunceyGardener]

Matt is dropping hot takes like a machine gun and the other guy just wants to keep the box sets coming to his doorstep. 🤣Never change, Matt.

[@justinainsworth8635]

Legendary crossover

[@ImmutableUniverse]

AWESOME INTERVIEW

[@demonsbutterfly]

What is KZbin trying to do here? Larry has been on here for years, doing similar material. At least tell him what you find offensive!!! It’s disgraceful. Customer Service is dead. Larry, get a Lawyer and make a stand. You are being denied an income stream without any valid reason…

There have been many videos about the Brian Wilson/Beach Boys story. Maybe that's why you didn't get a lot of views. On another note, have you ever done one about the West Coast band Kaleidoscope?

[@popgoesthe60s52]

I have done a video series on the Kaleidoscope: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f33YeYuOiJ6DhdE

[@scottandrewbrass1931]

And yet Mike Williams (The wise old " Sage" 😂)is allowed to continue his absolute bilge.😡

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Beatle flat-earthers are good for the KZbin business model.

[@aunch3]

I’ve always John’s solo work suffered from bad production. Double Fantasy is better album than it sounds his demos are on par with his Beatles work (relatively) but they just didn’t translate to the album. He really needed someone like Paul or even to George to lend an ear and smooth things out. Revolution is a great example of this

[@donkeyboy585]

Do you think you’re safer doing videos on the more obscure bands? (Like The Action) Or are you in danger from some unknown lawyer who owns the band’s catalog as well. Maybe The Beach Boys vids underperforming is just that story has been told whereas the lesser known bands are an epiphany to some people including me

[@popgoesthe60s52]

I don't think about "safety" per se, just making the best content I can.

[@martinmcgrath1985]

27 mins 💯 correct and it’s only human nature Mayo now calling the cube a monstrosity… Matt you have to laugh.. This is bcus Dixon got a FREEBIE 😂

[@marcusthompson5390]

Yeah, a lot of people would disagree that this was a dry spell for John. In fact, many people have already reevaluated the album and many more people will once the box set comes out. Idk, sometimes you come off as too authoritative as though you have the only right answer. “Dry spell” to whom? Gotcha, to you. You can’t state that as though it’s a universal truth or fact. I think you miss the mark in thinking that only the highly critical releases should get special treatment. That’s something I don’t agree with. In many cases, these sets are to provide more modern mixes to an otherwise older recording. You always want to keep material fresh to usher in a wave new fans to the product. The world is becoming more dominated by younger people, therefore, you want to market sound qualities to their ears in a lot of cases.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

I stated it as an opinion - not as a " universal truth or fact." If I sound "authoritative" it is because I back up my opinions with reason and evidence.

[@marcusthompson5390]

Larry Graves said that many of the songs he wasn’t solidly familiar with and you quickly came back with a “well, you know why that’s the case, right?” response even after Larry just said that he very much likes the album now. It just came off as you trying to convince him that the album isn’t good. It’s just those types of things that come off as a bit elitist and “I know what I’m talking about” vibes

[@popgoesthe60s52]

@@marcusthompson5390 Larry and I joke with one another all the time, he is a comedian after all. That what I was doing - fully knowing that I wasn't going to convince him out of his opinion. You disagree with my opinion Marcus, which is perfectly fine. But when you describe the opinion as "elitist" or "coming off as too authoritative" just shows you can't handle criticism of something you like.

[@marcusthompson5390]

@@popgoesthe60s52 When you think about it it’s kinda similar to you automatically calling certain KZbinrs “fanboys” simply because they like most if not all of solo Beatles stuff. You don’t think calling others “fanboys” for liking albums that you don’t necessarily like doesn’t come off oddly and kind of “high-brow”?. You run a fine channel, so this doesn’t have a major effect on me, I just wanted to bring it to your attention

[@martinmcgrath1985]

27 mins 💯 correct and it’s only human nature Mayo now calling the cube a monstrosity… Matt you have to laugh.. This is bcus Dixon got a FREEBIE 😂 Matt im a Beatles nut.. Wow Larry said mind game is on a level with plastic Ono and imagine (he’s worried Sean is listening)

[@nobbynoris]

How old is this bloke? He only looks 28.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Yes, Larry is much older than he looks.

[@LarryGravesCanadianStudmuffin]

66

[@martinmcgrath1985]

If Sean Ono shat into a box the likes of Larry would say it smelt of flowers. I won’t I’ll say it smells of shit get it away from me.

[@mikahattunen4502]

I can't listen to anything McCartney did after the 80's. Just wasn't interested anymore and am not today also.

[@mikahattunen4502]

And I have of course listened that later stuff also, for once or something.

[@martinmcgrath1985]

3rd world problems!

[@DEKMAN99]

The Eagles have always been an extremely overrated boring band. Always change the channel when their music plays.

[@invisibleray6987]

Lawrence Graves 🪦

[@ttoille765]

Hey, stop your whining about the box sets. I seem to recall you just got the "Worst of McCartney" box set.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Yeah but I paid for that one!

[@ttoille765]

@@popgoesthe60s52 At least you didn't do a "Worst of Yoko" box set!

[@erniericardo8140]

McCartney doesnt give nothing for free

[@erniericardo8140]

High Quality Entertainment having Larry on Pop Goes The 60's 👍 interesting discussion,Wishing Larry All the best on his new channel. Happy 4th of July Matt 💢💥