YT Decoy Demo | I Did Not Expect This!

[@metaljam7197]

I'm 61, have been riding a decoy for about three years now. My experience is 40 years of MTB, starting in Marin in the mid 80's. I been on every iteration of the MTB bike, way before suspension and lightweight materials. I've also raced XCMTB, Enduro, as well as Enduro Motorcycles. I started E-MTB on a Specialized Levo, don't waste your time with Specialized, go right to a YT! The absolute KING of rowdy, air time, fun! I'm gapping stuff that I would have never tried before, easy, and with style! Get one, find a way! Best bike hands down at the best price as well.

[@venacava_mtb]

That's awesome! Man what a run you've had! So good to hear that you're still having fun after so many years of riding. I hope I'm still healthy enough to be pedaling in my 60s. I'll figure something out to get my hands on one. Thanks for tuning in man! I really appreciate it👊🤙

[@8664antonio]

sounds not bad, but is the decoy not outdated today after 4years‘

[@dennisboyd1712]

Four years ago, on my 70th Birthday got a Haibike Nduro 9.0 to ride with a guy I met at Star Bucks in Siera Madre CA & it has changed my life. We're riding each week in the San Bernadino Mountains & have been joined by another guy who also has a Haibike. I Hadn't been on a Bicycle in 60yrs but the reason I can ride is because it a peddle assist E bike & it's FUN ! There is no Throttle if you don't peddle you don't go. My health has improved & I've lost 70 lbs. just getting me out of my Lazy Boy Recliner & outside in the sunshine & Breathing Hard... FUN

[@venacava_mtb]

Don’t know why I haven’t seen this comment till now. Sorry about that but I hope you’re still riding and having fun. Dude that’s inspiring! I hope I’m still pedaling at your age. 😁👊

[@mattclark1278]

Older guy here: I converted and got the Core 4. Then had a minor financial gift and also picked up a 'buddy bike' Core 2 for the still-analog pals. That second one is getting nearly as much use as the first. To your point: having two bikes of any variety is key - you can swap parts, have a spare (etc). But no joke: the ebike ruined me for analog biking up here in the Santa Cruz mountains. Being able to crush 2000' and 18 miles - over the lunch break, day after day - is just too much fun. It completely redefined the sport for me.

[@venacava_mtb]

Two e-bikes! That's next level man! I love it! You're picking up what I'm putting down about having two bikes though right? It's a must for me now. Hey man thanks so much for watching the channel leaving a comment. 🙏🙏🙏

[@Blackmamber195]

man, you seem like such a chill and positive guy! you can feel the love you have for mtb! great video, enjoyed it a lot. I‘m waiting for my Decoy Core 3 which should arrive next month. So stoked about it, you‘re video just got me hyped up even more 😂 keep up the positive vibes, glad i found your channel 🤝🏻 greetings from germany 🙌🏻

[@venacava_mtb]

What’s up Germany! Stoked for you and your new bike man! How’s the riding out there? I really appreciate your kind words and your support of the channel. It means a lot to me. 😁👊

[@Blackmamber195]

@@venacava_mtb mainly riding out in the woods, we have a lot of single trails, natural and built ones. Also, the alps are not that far away, which makes it easy to visit some of the most beautiful bike parks in europe over the weekends! But i‘d definetly also give it a try in a desert like scenario like san clement, looks awesome!

[@PahadiPedaler]

My friend (also my MTB guru) rides YT decoy. He did 3400 miles on it so far. I switched to SC Bullit 3 months back and there is no looking back to my jekyll1 lol. Repetition improved my skills and thoroughly enjoying it. EMTB is all fun, mental peace and you do get a good workout since you end up riding more trail miles per session.

[@venacava_mtb]

That's awesome man. Yeah if you can get your hands on one, they are so much fun!

[@emtbtrailrider539]

I got SC BULLIT 180 f / 180 r PUSH COIL cascade link so goood on the jumps

[@venacava_mtb]

@@emtbtrailrider539 i want to try a push coil! They look awesome! Glad to hear you're loving it.

[@THESEGMENTPR]

What a great video!! Love hearing and seeing your stoke as you experience the Decoy. You were killing those trails brother!! Great one!!!! Also glad you got to meet James and Parker. Those dudes are solid !!!

[@venacava_mtb]

Thank you Mark! Yeah i was kinda nervous on my way over there with my camera to ask if i could film but they were so generous and welcoming. They wanted to know when the video was coming out. Anyway you could let them know. I don't have their social.

[@kglesq1]

Excellent video, thanks for posting it.

[@venacava_mtb]

My pleasure! Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment. I really appreciate it!

[@allshownogolf]

Ebikes are life changing, you should also demo Orbea Rise, looks amazing and already enough power considering it's a light EMTB. Happy shredding!

[@venacava_mtb]

What's up man! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. Really means a lot to me. It's love to try one but on the other hand i kind don't want to ride anymore e-bikes until i can afford one. Otherwise it's just torture when i have to give it back😂.

[@oldgeezersendurochannel8487]

Just leave it in one assist mode and then ride as normal changing gears as needed. I usually ride about an hour in eco to get a workout and then turn up the juice for another hour of just fun.

[@venacava_mtb]

That's great advice! Thanks man i really appreciate the support🤘

[@jamn2148]

Sold my regular bike and got a Pivot switchblade and shuttle LT… best of both worlds! Love the ebike it brings a lot more fun on the trail and u can ride longer and farther.. I wouldn’t know what to do without my ebike🤣👍 I recommend it to anyone but start with a regular bike first

[@venacava_mtb]

Nice man! Pivots are awesome! Not sure what a shuttle LT is not I'ma look it up right now😅

[@marklopez5267]

Great vid VenaCava! Glad you got to experience the stoke that the Decoy brings when on the trails. I just bought my Core 2 back in August and I love it more everytime I ride it. Put a coil on the rear and I am blown away at how stable I feel on the steep and gnarly terrain out in Aliso/Laguna. Hope you are able to add one to your quiver in the near future!

[@venacava_mtb]

Hey Mark! Thanks for watching man and for taking the time to leave me a comment. That's awesome that you picked one up! Maybe someday I'll figure out how i can get one while still being married😁. Have fun out there brother🤘

[@thim8009]

I got a core 2 and replaced the damper so it is a zeb ultimate. Saved alot of money. On ebikes you don't need lightweight expensive drivetrains.

[@venacava_mtb]

Smart man! Yeah every little bit helps! 🤘

[@mlb6d9]

Ordered mine from the Outlet section in December 23 since the price was so good I couldn't resist. My first ebike, and I'm feeling the same way so far on the trails in town. Once it dries out, I'll hit the regular rides and so far I don't think I'll be disappointed. Right now the biggest thing I'm looking forward to is packing in MORE rides since I won't have the usual 2-3 day brecovery between strenuous rides. I'm trying to do ECO as much as possible and save the other modes for when I really need them or I'm running out of daylight. Great Bike!

[@venacava_mtb]

Nice dude! I finally pulled the trigger this year as well and ironically enough I didn’t get the decoy. I went with the Marin Rift Zone E2! I’m loving that thing as well. They’re game changers for sure but I find that there are certain things I still prefer my pedal bike for. Stoked to have them both.

[@mlb6d9]

@@venacava_mtb Everyone I run into on an ebike says, "Yeah, clean up your old bike to sell, cuz you'll never ride it again" I plan to mix it up as much as possible

[@MotoVloggedOUT]

@@venacava_mtbwhy’d you go with the rift instead of a decoy? Just ordered a decoy core 5 waiting to get it!

[@topheavy7616]

Your experience mirrors my first time. 2 months on a Trek Rail now - loving it.

[@venacava_mtb]

That's awesome man! Yeah it was quite an eye opener. Maybe someday I'll figure out a way to get one and still have two bikes 😁🤘

[@rickhuang]

Awesome video !! Love it ! We just rode some of those trails yesterday! And I booked the decoy demo ride for tomorrow!! Can’t wait ! (Love from AAboys )

[@venacava_mtb]

Thanks so much Rick! Yeah i saw you and the boys were out there. Such a fun place and with the decoy it's even better! Man i wish I could join you. I came down with something yesterday and had to stay home from work. Have fun man, can't wait to see your impressions.

[@mesapainting769]

I have the same bike. I absolutely love it!

[@venacava_mtb]

Nice dude! It’s a rad bike for sure. Never did pull the trigger on an e-bike though. At least not yet.

[@ChristianJohnsons]

I have two trek rails that I bought used. Totally agree that having a backup bike is key for buddies and for when one is down for maintenance

[@venacava_mtb]

Absolutely the way to go! Thanks for watching man! 🤙😁

[@RadDadLife]

I just sold my Harley and bought a Specialized Turbo levo comp alloy! Bought the last generation Zeb ultimate for it.

[@venacava_mtb]

Sweet dude! That's kinda crazy to me that a Harley equals an e-bike but that's the reality. They are so fun! Hopefully I'll catch you on the trails man. 🤘

[@RadDadLife]

@@venacava_mtb even worse the ebike was more expensive lol. Luckily it was on sale 25% off. Hopefully we will ride together soon

[@marklopez5267]

@@RadDadLife I just bought my decoy in August. I was torn between the Turbo Levo Comp Alloy and the Decoy Core 2 and opted with the YT because of the price. I'm loving the decoy so far but you got yourself a deal on that Levo. Couple of buddies of mine have them and they are awesome bikes, although, the motor seems quite loud compared to the Shimano EP8 which I though was weird. Anyways, enjoy your new rig!

[@RadDadLife]

@@marklopez5267 nice! Honestly, that would of been my choice too. Right before I pulled the trigger specialized went on sale!

[@OnlyDans848]

Best invention ever. I Love them.

[@venacava_mtb]

I don't know if ever but they are definitely fun😄

[@Gaz_511]

I love my Decoy, it Shreds and Jumps like a beast. One thing you need to make it even better is bigger rotors (220mm)

[@venacava_mtb]

That's awesome man! Bigger rotors totally make sense. Thanks for watching dude and for taking the time to comment. I really appreciate it! 🤘

[@torreyhiker9137]

and Magura MT7’s..!

[@artificialgrassspain30]

Great to see an opinion that would be coming from my perspective.

[@venacava_mtb]

Thanks man! I appreciate the comment. I'm glad you could relate 🤙

[@jason-dy5ou]

Everyone knocks them UNTIL THEY TRY THEM

[@venacava_mtb]

I would go buy one today if i could afford it😁

[@jason-dy5ou]

@@venacava_mtb i just ordered a Pivot Shuttle SL. Cant wait for it to come in.

[@venacava_mtb]

@@jason-dy5ou dude that thing is sick! You can barely even tell it's got a motor. Congrats man!

[@darrinkulyk9560]

Yup Great Till You Have To FIX It . Would Love To See The Costs after 5000km . Avg Unit .

[@venacava_mtb]

@@darrinkulyk9560 That's over thing i have no info about. But that's precisely one of the reasons i like having two bikes. If one is down I still have another to ride. Do you have any experience with having to replace batteries or other parts?

[@RydenDirty]

Bro love the video. And love the trails there. Looking forward to shredding with ya soon

[@venacava_mtb]

Thank you so much Eric! I had a lot of fun riding the decoy and making the video. Yeah man can't wait to ride with you again🤘🤙

[@mikesavicky503]

Great video, buddy! Glad you enjoyed the Decoy. 🤙

[@venacava_mtb]

Totally man. Makes sense why you've always got that million dollar smile when i see you on yours😁. Thank for watching Mike and for taking the time to comment. I really appreciate it!!!

[@federaldelii]

Ebike is a game changer in the world 🤘🏻🤘🏻💯💯💯

[@venacava_mtb]

They're so fun!🤘🔥🤙

[@humzilla707]

I put cush core in my decoy and monster truck over everything. I freaking love it.

[@stevobevo91]

What does the Cush core do??

[@humzilla707]

@@stevobevo91 you can run low pressure, keeps the rim from pinching the tire, and from popping a bead

[@venacava_mtb]

That's awesome! I've never tried cush core. I've heard it adds weight and is a pain to put on. Thoughts?

[@humzilla707]

@@venacava_mtb it's definitely harder than a mtb tire but after watching some videos it wasn't any worse than a dirtbike tire mount. I would like to try the XC version since cush core is like a volume reducer in air suspension. The regular cush ramps up the psi very quickly and maybe the XC version would be a little more plush when smashing a rock plus a little lighter. But I'm 220# and haven't had a snake bite or burped air from the bead since installing it.

[@bobbyvee_mtb]

Great video! Loved hearing and experiencing the stoke with you! E-bikes are a total game changer, but a very big financial pill to swallow! Fortunately (or unfortunately??) I already made poor decisions and bought an expensive enduro bike, which allowed me to trade up to e-bike 1:1 swap with a smaller additional investment(cost me about $600 to trade up from 2021 Meta AM to a used 2020 Meta Power SX).

[@venacava_mtb]

That's awesome man! Yeah, i was just blown away. I just can't get over my two-bike problem. You bring up a good point though. Maybe if i go the used e-bike route i can sell one and not have to pay too much out of pocket to get one. 🤔

[@Jaxongaming-d2l]

Men i cant wait to get mine

[@venacava_mtb]

@@Jaxongaming-d2l I ended up getting the Marin Rift Zone E2. Like the decoy, it rips down the trail! 😁🤘

[@Asiatic83]

Great video! I have an ebike and an analog bike. Using the ebike for long rides out and having fun

[@venacava_mtb]

That's awesome! Do you still ride your analog bike quite a bit? I've heard of folks having both but then the pedal bike just sits in the garage and collects dust.

[@crazyoldmaninthewoods]

You totally sold me on the E-bike thing. Alas, I'm in the same boat financially as you so it's not going to happen, Thanks for filming, Andy

[@venacava_mtb]

Hey there. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. Yeah those things aren't cheap. You may want to look into getting a used one though. You could probably pick up an older model for 2 to 3 grand.

[@davidanderson6222]

Game changer AND life changer! Just saying!

[@venacava_mtb]

That's the word on the block 😁🤙

[@TumorWarrior]

San Clemente is a rad place, looked in pretty good condition for right after summer!

[@venacava_mtb]

Yeah that place is a lot of fun but those climbs are no joke when its hot out 😅

[@Jaredcouture12676]

Think about it this way. Motocross bikes jump well and they’re much heavier. Hold out till it hurts to ride without one.

[@venacava_mtb]

That's a good point! I don't have much of a choice but to hold off cause i can't afford the one I want😅. Appreciate the support and your comment man.

[@michaelrose5204]

what size were you on and how tall are you? great video, thanks!

[@venacava_mtb]

Hey Michael, thanks for watching man! Means a lot me. I was riding a medium and I'm 5'8". Cheers!

[@michaelrose5204]

@@venacava_mtb thank you. I think I’m gonna pull the plug and buy one

[@venacava_mtb]

@@michaelrose5204 dude you’re gonna love it! I’m working on getting one too.

[@drew5027]

Were you riding the Decoy MX/Mullet version or the 29 version?

[@venacava_mtb]

Yes it was the core 4 Mx version. Super fun bike!🤘🔥

[@torreyhiker9137]

Ebike for the win!!!

[@venacava_mtb]

😁🤙

[@MTBraging]

Hahaha welcome to the Decoy stoke 💥💯🤘 but I’m a big proponent of having acoustic option too !

[@venacava_mtb]

Craig! Thanks for watching man and thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment. Yeah that thing's pretty awesome. For me it's not even that I'm stuck on having an acoustic, i just need to have two bikes and having one of those be an e-bike is too expensive for me at the moment.

[@MTBraging]

@@venacava_mtb completely understand

[@torreyhiker9137]

Back today to encourage you to buy that bike😂Wait for them to go on sale(?) Maybe just sell one of your trail bikes. Like how often does a buddy without a bike actually ride with ya. So keep one for if Ebike is in the shop. You may find yourself riding the ebike every ride anyway! It’s that good.

[@venacava_mtb]

Dude I was actually so close to buy one. Had money in hand and then I got in an car accident and had to use that money towards a new car. Set me back with the Decoy. Back to the drawing board as far how to pay for one. I am willing to sell one of the bikes but the used bike market has crashed. Don’t think I’ll get what I want for it. Don’t worry though, it will happen eventually.

[@Uncagedmtb]

Great video!👍👍 Always awesome to see people’s first experience with the Decoy, smiles for miles.😁 It might not be in the cards for you right now, but unfortunately/fortunately you have been infected by the duck and there is no cure, but to own one. Just ask everyone that has demoed one. 🤷‍♂️🤣🤣🤣🦆⚡️

[@venacava_mtb]

Thanks Joey! Thank you for watching and leaving a comment man! Yeah i totally get the whole e-bike thing now. I thought it would be heavy and sluggish in the air. Not at all what happened. Pretty amazing bike!

[@torreyhiker9137]

All that concentration on motor and gears will go away after riding it more.

[@venacava_mtb]

No doubt, thanks for watching!

[@peterthomson6161]

Yes they are great.

[@venacava_mtb]

Agreed! What do you ride?

[@peterthomson6161]

@@venacava_mtb I ride a Sondors Rockstar. It's heavy. I have upgraded the suspension. Today I was looking at the Specialized Turbo Levo Comp on sale for $6750 from 9K.

[@venacava_mtb]

@@peterthomson6161 that's a huge markdown!

[@datractor]

Is there other modes than boost lol, just keep it full power all of the time. Here for a good time, not a long time.

[@venacava_mtb]

That seems to be the way to go. I've heard that from several people now. Thanks for watching dude and for taking the time to leave a comment🤙

[@vinosteeps]

Another one bites the dust....you did not say if you are going to get one or I just missed it?

[@venacava_mtb]

You're gonna have to watch till the end to find out. 😏

[@pcarts232]

Awesome review bro 🙌🏼 I’m gonna sub too 🤘🏾

[@lilyvalencia]

Wow ⚡️⚡️⚡️

[@venacava_mtb]

They’ve got some get up and go!

[@ManNomad]

I made the same decision with very similar reasons. If you need so self shuttle it would make sense otherwise I will enjoy my climbs.

[@allanp27]

I pulled the trigger on an ebike and there’s no turning back. Just kept pedaling all the way to the top with a smile.😊happy with my purchase! Sorry It’s simply addictive🎃

[@venacava_mtb]

That's awesome man! What did you go with?

[@allanp27]

@@venacava_mtb went with Haibike All Mtn 3. It’s a mullet with decent specs and is the only price I can afford. But I’m all good. I enjoy riding it.

[@dirtwheels6679]

Early with ebikes having the power, gears and dropper seat at the same time, I did get confused. I'd know that if I did something the section would be easier, but I'd panic and end up suffering. LOL. I have a bad leg. Life would suck without ebikes. Haibike All Mtn 160mm travel with the Yamaha motor. Climbs great. Bosch is probably the most fun, but the Yamaha rules the grind climbs.

[@venacava_mtb]

Lol. I could see how getting used to all that at once could be a bit confusing. They are pretty awesome though. That's awesome an e-bike has enabled you to keep riding despite your bad leg. Thanks for the comment 🤙

[@marcellosouza917]

Nice vid man!

[@venacava_mtb]

Thanks Marcello! I had a lot of fun making that one.

[@ManNomad]

Drives me crazy people ride an ebike for the first time with the motor off or on eco. Hello...it's an ebike. BOOST from first to last pedal of the ride so you know what's up, ins-outs, nuances and difficulties as well as and battery life. Work backwards from there.

[@venacava_mtb]

Good point Fred. Thanks for watching and for the advice. Still don’t have an e-bike but when I do I’ll definitely be on boost!🤘🔥

[@ManNomad]

@@venacava_mtb To be honest, we have the technology to make the motor/pedal input way more natural and intuitive to where we don't realize when the motor engages and disengages through software and a next generation interface. It's just not there for me yet. And at 6-10K$ no way! Better A.I. integration maybe. Boost mode amplifies the lack of intuitive user interface.

[@TomKennedyUSA]

Accelerating into uphill berms and uphill switchbacks on an eMTB is an experience that cannot be described or duplicated with a regular MTB. For real - if you're not ready to buy an eMTB then DON'T test drive one, ha! (At the video 7:24 mark I think the word you were looking for is 'cadence', where the motor kind of perfectly matches your pedaling input.)

[@venacava_mtb]

They're a game changer for sure. I could see how having that motor would change the way i ride and what and where i ride as well. I appreciate the comment man. Keep pedaling and enjoying nature. I saw some of your thumbnails. Not sure where you're at but looks like you have some beautiful trails!

[@MILTONATOR]

I’m gonna add and say “don’t watch emtb videos if you’re not ready to buy one” 😅 Good stuff bro. I’m itching

[@venacava_mtb]

😂 itching to ride or itching to buy an e-bike?😳

[@MILTONATOR]

@@venacava_mtb yes! 🤘⚡️

[@scooterinvegas1]

The uncaged 10 is $4800 right now. Do it! :-)

[@venacava_mtb]

Temping but if I ever do get an e-bike I’m leaning towards an SL now.

[@lavapix]

Nice review. Just my opinion, the background music is distracting and really not needed.

[@trailpimp6369]

I was just at the Mill last March and rode with UOSOCAL at Dog park. I demoed the Decoy four days in a row and it is great. The core 4 MX is what I want but I just did a custom enduro bike. YT used to be in Reno Nevada from 2014 to 2018 maybe like 40 minutes from me. I had the generation 1 Capra and Jeffsy. Great brand. 🔥🤘💯

[@venacava_mtb]

So good! Yeah i love YT bikes and that decoy blew me away man. What are you riding now?

[@trailpimp6369]

@@venacava_mtb sorry for the late response. I am on a Vitus Sommet CRX. I got the frame and built it up. It is a 160 29 and does great all over.🤘🔥

[@venacava_mtb]

@@trailpimp6369 I had to look it up☺️. Nice ride man!

[@trailpimp6369]

@@venacava_mtb Thanks man

[@_Jake.From.Statefarm_]

Get on it bro

[@venacava_mtb]

Nice dude! You’re going into the archives😁🤙 thanks!

[@_Jake.From.Statefarm_]

@@venacava_mtb it popped up and I wonldnt ge rude and ignore it.

[@sethwashere]

Well, I may just have to try one now…

[@venacava_mtb]

If you aren't going to buy one, tread carefully my friend.

[@sethwashere]

@@venacava_mtb as much as I don’t want to admit it to myself, that’s why I haven’t tried any e-bike yet.

[@lakaldrak]

I Hope they come With bigger batteries in 2023 With the decoy.

[@venacava_mtb]

I found the life of the current battery size to be pretty good. As i mentioned in the video. I rode for about two hours and only went down one bar. Can't remember if the battery indicator had for our five bars but at the very least you're looking at around 8 hours per charge. That's way more than i would ever need. I kind like the bikes that are going the other way with smaller batteries. You can barely even tell some are e-bikes these days. Anyway, thanks for watching dude and i really appreciate you taking the time to comment. 🤙

[@lakaldrak]

@@venacava_mtb ITS still to Low No Matter the Range ( ITS obvious i need more battery wir 90kg Then someone With 70kg). The Thing is that the battery is massive for 540wh. They can easily fit a 700 in that Same frame 100%. IT IS OK but still holds me Back when i go longer. And the worst Part is that stupid Design With the battery. The plus With the YT is this Bike is insanely good. IT Just Rides so good Downhill. Greetings 👍

[@ckkone]

Why would you ride an EMTB with the motor off? Just keep it in trail mode all the time.

[@venacava_mtb]

😅 that's what someone else said too but they suggested boost the whole time. I was just messing with it and trying all sorts of things. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to leave a comment. I really appreciate it man. 🤙

[@philssonson]

What people often don't get about ebikes is, that you have a choice to ride it with support or not. Without ebikes, I would not be riding after a back injury. It is a different category. And to those many diehearts: NO, ebikers are not cheating. Who are they competing with during their free time? Exactly.

[@venacava_mtb]

Pretty cool rigs for sure! Thanks for watching brother! 😁🤙

[@philssonson]

@@venacava_mtb Honestly, I am amzed by the great quality of your vids!! Keep it up

[@venacava_mtb]

@@philssonson wow! What a awesome thing to say! Thank you so much. It’s comments like these that make me want to keep going!😁🤘

[@emtbtrailrider7976]

E-mtb makes climbing great again !! lol. negative about it: you'll spend more money on parts like brake pads, tires, chain, cassette.

[@venacava_mtb]

For the price you pay for one you should get a free lifetime supply of those things! 😂🤙

[@onlysendsmtb]

After renting Trek Rails, Marin Apline Trail E1s and Orbea Rise in Bentonville AR over the summer, we bought a pair of Orbea Rise Saturday afternoon.

[@venacava_mtb]

First of all that sounds like an amazing summer! What was it about the Orbea Rise that did it for you over the others?

[@jsolis7]

Wuss... lol! Just kiddin but there are cheaper entry level ebikes you can buy.

[@venacava_mtb]

😆 I have gotten other comments about different e-bikes and other ways to save. What are you currently riding?

[@jsolis7]

@@venacava_mtb I'm riding a Specialized Levo Comp Carbon that I got on sale, that's one way to save. I saved myself over 2K. You could get a TRANCE X E+ PRO 29 3, they're about 5-6K. Here's a good video on e mountain bikes under 5K. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGHKf6N9aL6ZeMU

[@siriosstar4789]

"First time on an e bike " ? that's not even remotely believable .😂

[@venacava_mtb]

First time. On my honor 😇. Curious what makes you think otherwise?

[@siriosstar4789]

because your a hard core super skilled rider that's around bikes all the time and have been aware of E mtbs existence for a long time and probably have a friend that has an e bike and you went for a spin. ok, i admit that's a lot of assumption but , come on , anybody into biking surely has tried one ? ok , i'll take your word for it . 😎

[@venacava_mtb]

@@siriosstar4789 😂 thanks for your kind words brother. But honestly this was my first time. I was kinda of in that mind set that i think a lot of analog riders get into where we just make up or mind that we want nothing to do with an e-bike and just avoid them on principle. At first i told myself they were only for older riders and people who were out of shape. But then i started seeing all skill levels get one and finally i broke down and decided to try it for myself and make a video out of it. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@siriosstar4789]

i stopped riding at 65 ( 76 now) due to back and shoulder injuries . a friend brought their e bike over so i could try it and i flipped out . i was like , fk , i can ride again ! i have a really cool austrian bike called Nox with the new Sachs RS motor . it's a beast at 112 nm. i can get up any hill with ease . glad you had fun on your first ride 👍 stay in shape or you will turn into a 🐈 like me . 😂

[@jamesdorsijiuhjuh6151]

Eco is last resort!! Boost all the time thats the whole point of an ebike

[@modernklunker9711]

I guess I don't understand why your micromanaging the motor. Just turn it on boost and leave it on, then you can blast out 20 mph on the flats kill the hills and then the motor will cut out on the downhills.. stop messing with it. And actually taking the time to turn it off on all the downhills? What the heck dude, LOL.

[@venacava_mtb]

Good points! I'll have to try that next time. I have to imagine you really cut down the battery life if you're on boost the whole time though right?

[@modernklunker9711]

@@venacava_mtb depends on the bike, Rider input, and the length of your ride I can't imagine riding an e-bike on anything less than boost the whole time otherwise what's the point right? I think when you're riding a full power bike like the decoy, running it at full power is the thrill of the ride. If you get into these newer mid-power lightweight e-bikes like the new fuel or the new pivot, then you're looking at more of a medium assist up the hill so you can enjoy a fairly normal feeling mountain bike ride down a hill.. but there's no poppiness or playfulness on the 50 plus pound bike so you might as well run it with your hair on fire.

[@venacava_mtb]

@@modernklunker9711 😁🔥

[@b_bullish6700]

Whatever Dude..... It jumps and handles just as good as either one of my bikes but I'm not going to get one because I hate doing twice the amount of riding in half the time. Plus going back up to the top of the mountain is not only fun it's relatively effortless so when I get to the top and I'm pissed that although I had a ton of fun riding up I still feel fresh enough to immediately bomb back down the mountain and repeat the process all over again and then again. And I can do five laps in the time I normally do two. So there is no way I'm getting one because...... Dude when the bleeding of your self inflicted axe wound stops; reach deep down in your pocket grab your nuts and your wallet and go pull the trigger on a ebike!

[@venacava_mtb]

Tell me what you really think 😂. You're absolutely right about all that i just can't get over my two bike problem. With more bells and whistles on an e-bike there are more things to break too. If i only have one bike and it's not rideable i don't get to ride that weekend. That's a deal breaker for me. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment🤙

[@b_bullish6700]

@@venacava_mtb Hey bro I apologize I was a little harsh, as if I was talking to one of my close friends and I don’t even know you nor do you know me so my bad for being a Richard. You should seriously think about figuring out a way to get an Ebike. Some of the most enjoyable rides I do now are challenging super steep up hills. It’s so fun to get a few mates and compete for who can get the furthest up the superstreep.

[@venacava_mtb]

@@b_bullish6700 it's all good brother! That sounds awesome and yeah I feel like everytime I turn around another buddy has gotten a motor. I wish I could just pull the trigger. I have a wife and 4 kids so dropping 5 to 8k on a bike just isn't that simple. Maybe once this economy recovers my investments will buy me one🤞

[@b_bullish6700]

@@venacava_mtb totally understand sounds like you got your hands full. It won’t hurt to wait a couple years and let the price come down and the tech continues to increase

[@will._.x_.861]

I’d rob a 7-11 no two 7-11’s it’s worth it…

[@venacava_mtb]

😬 that's one way of going about it👮‍♂️🚔🚨

[@justanothernoobe]

It's sounding like "the most powerful nation on the planet" is really constricted with regards uptake on e-bikes? Yes ... e-bikes WILL encourage people who can't get out on a stEam-bike to give it a go. "Yes" - ebikes with their extra weight WILL feel more planted and confidence inspiring. But I'm just surprised because a lot of your observations are "nothing new" to us down here in New Zealand. Are you guys in the US really sooooooo restricted on e-bikes that you haven't realised the potential? (For the record, I don't ride e-bikes - I prefer my 2006 Giant Glory 8 stEam-bike (albeit with some serious mods that take it down to 15 kgs, make it more pedal-able with ... carbon-fibre rims ... better (12 speed) gearing ... lighter front forks ... high-engagement hubs (yeah bebbehhhhh) ... BUT I totally get the value-proposition of e-bikes ... to the point that I'm considering a 2023 Orbea Rise an an all-purpose weapon just for longevity of ride). Is legislation in the great you-ess-of-eh really that restrictive that you guys don't get it???

[@venacava_mtb]

Cheers on your bike, that thing sounds awesome! Thanks for watching and commenting! So I'm curious if prices of e-mtb are much lower in new Zealand making them more affordable and therefore more ubiquitous over there. For me right now it's just a matter of cost and the two bike problem. Let me know if you end up getting the Orbea.

[@justanothernoobe]

​@@venacava_mtb sadly, in NZ everything is multiplied by the exchange rate and then they add shipping plus there's GST plus a fee for someone to pick their nose and someone has to make a cup of coffee for Grandma ... etc., ... So at NZ$ 13,000 - 23,000 (the price of a decent 2nd hand car ... ) and a son to put through university ... I'll probably have to save for a little bit longer before I can justify the Orbea Rise! 🤣🤣