yuba city boys is not a mystery

[@AndrewSmith-iv2cg]

Although an interesting theory, teddy bear was my cousin, my pop was out there looking for him during the initial search, and the boys were nowhere near together enough in the head to go looking for CHP offices. Teddy likely wouldn’t even eat food that wasn’t given to him, and when the old house caught fire when he was younger, he didn’t think he was allowed to leave without permission. They were significantly more disabled than you give them credit for.

[@annychest718]

😭😭😭

[@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783]

God bless your family 🙏❤️

[@Lot_2023]

Yet, he knew how to play basketball? 😐

[@kingduckford]

And that's pretty much all there is to understand. All five of them were of severely diminished capacity and dangerously incapable if in severe trouble. If they would have had a chaperone to look over them and take charge, they would have likely survived. On their own, in a difficult situation, they just didn't have the capability to save themselves. There was more than enough for them to make it one way or another, but they didn't have the capacity to make those choices. Simple enough, no mystery about it. Its only a mystery to people who think everyone is "average".

[@Lot_2023]

And yet, they were allowed to go that night. Brilliant.

[@markwolfshohl6562]

The heart attack guy walks 8 miles , but the young men walk about the same and die?

[@amandanegrete1306]

Heart attack guy had a tendency to get well oiled. That’s what I’ve read anyway. I can’t give a source for that info so IDK. Early newspaper articles kind of make it seem like he wasn’t real reliable. It’s insinuated he was a boozer.

[@matthewsutton3682]

Yeah. This is one of the weird aspects of the case. The VW guy, older and suffering from heart trouble, has no trouble covering 8miles, but these 5 young basketball players cannot? I get that without knowing the area its possible these young men hiked back and forth in panic for many hours arguing amongst themselves and disoriented, but still common sense would have it that if you simply kept going in one direction you'd likely come across some other car or structure within a days hike of 12hrs (which if snow wasn't high should easily be 10-30miles depending on conditions).

[@tomszabo7350]

The heart attack guy walked back down elevation below the snow line. The 5 boys walked further into the mountains. Why walk that way and not try to turn back? Because they had already driven so far, surely there must be a cabin, house or town just ahead. After all, there was the guy in the VW also headed that way, and the road had been freshly plowed. An awful set of coincidences that turned bad judgment into disaster. After a long track, the 5 reach the trailer at Buck Lake and find the road is not plowed further. Damn. Eventually the two healthiest dudes turn back but of course by now even the plowed road has deep snow, and they die of exposure. The other three wait for rescue that never comes, one dies in the trailer and the other two try to forge ahead having assumed the first two who went back did not make it. This whole thing is very similar to what happened to the Dutch girls in Panama ... I'm fairly certain they also perished because they made the mistake of thinking that continuing forward, and then waiting for rescue, was a better choice than trying to backtrack. Lesson here for search strategies: look much further than it seems possible that somebody could end up.

[@trevor8726]

@@matthewsutton3682 u forgot these poor guys had learning or mental disabilities

[@jwehrli6]

@@matthewsutton3682 in other videos they said gary once took off and walked 500 miles. so 8 miles would be easy for him.

[@BakersBiscuit]

I don't think home depot existed here in the 70's.

[@pygiana16]

The narration is too jumpy, staccato, and too fast.

[@susanjordan5949]

Of all the theories I have heard yours makes the most sense to me. Just about any situation can be made “mysterious” if you tell it the right way.

[@markwolfshohl6562]

Mild heart attack then walked 8 MILES in a snowstorm....yea

[@denisew3631]

Ha! I thought the same thing 🤔.

[@sarahstrong7174]

People manage some amazing feats if it is what they have to do in order to get help, especially if the choice is possibly freezing to death.

[@DavidPigbody]

i didnt know martin scorcese had a youtube channel

[@chapter11247]

😂😂

[@StellaChristelle]

Great information, especially on the mapping. I don’t really think that they would have had the thought process of going to all these California highway patrols. However, I do have a theory that’s simpler. I believe that they went home the way they always did, this wasn’t a first trip for them to Chico and back, so they knew the route . And like so many people do, the driver missed the exit that forks off to Yuba City, and took the Oroville one. Once they, they just got lost and started going up the hill into the forest. They got out to look for help and got lost. By the way- check out more on Shones - he’s a man with a criminal past and all kinds of sketch.

[@fumanpoo4725]

Give it ratiinal thought...they changed clothes, leftbtheir car, got a truck, drove to Brownsville, changed clothes again and drove back to the forest in cold, snow and darkness to die. Really?

[@lovieuru]

Great attention to how they group may have been trying to listen rather than ignore the man.

[@Sawdust5764]

As somebody who lives in Oroville and has worked in Quincy, the 70 is not the road to take in the winter. The rock slides are frequent and the road is usually under maintenance due to it

[@StealthySpace7]

Gotta say no to this one. Joseph Shone (The dude who had a heart attack and owner of the VW) was said to be a drunk and compulsive liar by his ENTIRE town. His testimony changed 5 times total. There's also no telling what time the CHP closed nearly 40 years ago just because they close at 5 now. Also there is no way the window wouldn't have been rolled up. The owner LOVED that car. Something had to have chased them away I think they did something at the game or gas station that made the people in the red truck upset. The red truck dudes chased them up the hill, tried to whistle for them to come back when they realized the boys took off into the woods, they never came back out of fear. 3 separate witnesses confirmed the red truck

[@soxpeewee]

So if the one guy had f'd up feet he wouldn't be running around the cabin/trailer or need shoes. Also the group might have thought the Volkswagen driver was dead and it panicked them more.

[@pixelpusher8986]

I appreciate your angle on this, I enjoy getting other perspectives on this story. However, there are a lot of bizarre things surrounding the events of heart attack man, that no matter how you apply them it just doesn’t make sense. In my opinion, there is something sinister that had to have occurred on their way home. They had no reason to go up the mountain on their own. Add to that - heart attack man’s story doesn’t add up. We will probably never know the real story and events that took place that night. Anyhow thanks again for the video. 😊

[@amandanegrete1306]

I really liked the way this was done. The only suggestion is fix the few times sound “went out”. Aside from that this was respectful, logical and easy to follow. Well done!

[@cfq.tufanuf7601]

OK starting a fire in an enclosed place is not a good idea because of carbon monoxide. But surely a winter cabin would have been equipped with an inbuilt fireplace would it not?

[@mattholomule7810]

It was just a small trailer....just gas heat

[@JohnFFox12]

Why talking so fast ? Are you in a hurry to get done reading your dialogue? Slow down a little bit.

[@markwolfshohl6562]

You failed to mention a lot . Mathias at the cabin with Weiher for 12-14 weeks. Why did he stay their for so long?

[@amandanegrete1306]

I’ve only ever heard it’s believed Ted lived up to 8 weeks. His feet were SEVERELY frost bitten and he had gang green. I think Mathias stayed with him as long as he could.

[@billblaski9523]

It can't be proven if Mathias was there with Weiher the whole time, only that Mathias was there at one point

[@seanrawlinson8565]

The trailer had propane as well which I find is odd.. and one guy had beard growth suggesting he lived for a while. Idk

[@KlaxontheImpailr]

Very informative, I always keep a look out for new information on this case and you’ve brought up things I never would have thought of, I’m curious though, why don’t you use the men’s names instead of just “The Driver” or whatever?

[@nevermindmeijustinjectedaw9988]

had to play on slower speed to understand and your "simplest" explanation is the most convoluted one i've heard

[@bigpun7916]

Agreed , this was narrated by the micro machines guy.

[@chapter11247]

Truly one of the worst videos I've ever seen.

[@Scott_Terry]

This is one of the best videos out there on this mystery. Especially the time taken to put together the map visuals...everyone else uses small and hard to see diagrams. I, too, like the theory that the boys drove up under their own free will and not under duress. However, they saw their mission as life or death. I can't get over the car window being left down, but the keys being found with the driver. My theory: they picked up a female hitchhiker and were trying to get her home with her baby. I believe at least that much of the VW driver's testimony...

[@degrelleholt6314]

Where's the woman and baby? Was a woman and child reported missing around that time?

[@Scott_Terry]

@@degrelleholt6314 I've wondered a lot about that. The location was rife with drifters, hippies, and even cultists - if it was a woman trying to get up there via hitch hiking, she very well may have belonged to one of these groups and moreover probably wasn't native to California. Maybe some midwestern girl trying to move out to California to make it big and got caught up with a bad crowd? Just speculation and probably wildly inaccurate. Are there data-bases from that far back that would provide a national list of missing women and/or nursing mothers? I doubt it. There's so much here we'll just never know...

[@fumanpoo4725]

Many inaccuracies, but always (except with paranormal babble) good to keep this story alive. Those 5 men deserve better.

[@zoggy2]

trying to go to Quincy would explain why they headed north instead of going south after leaving the car. The search efforts were all based on them having come back down so no one ever searched the FS trailers. Before the GPS I used to get lost all the time in unfamiliar areas.

[@ricksloan5588]

Good theory but it is based on an assumption. Pretty big one too. Why not just use a pay phone?

[@smason22]

An interesting video with some plausible ideas. One hitch, though - I went to Chico State and have traveled/fished/camped/hiked the Plumas National Forest extensively over the years. The decision to travel to Quincy to find a CHP office could only have been based on complete and total ignorance of the local geography by all 5 of the men. Even Hwy 70 (Oroville to Quincy), assuming this is the road they intended to take, is a VERY windy road that would also take them in the opposite direction from Yuba City. Chico and Yuba City are a much shorter drive from Oroville, both have CHP offices, and both are much larger towns than Quincy.

[@ralphtkane1106]

Well done. Loved the graphics and the tire spinning noise. Oh, btw, I had quite a few 1960's cars, and yes, often they would not start when hot.

[@msnovtue]

Vapor lock. Happened in cars even into the late '80s/early '90s. Electronics have pretty much eliminated the issue now.

[@sarahstrong7174]

Or cold.

[@j_shelby_damnwird]

This barebones video explanation is even weirder than the Yuba city boys case.

[@gui18bif]

Damn this channel is boutta blow up Keep making videos my man

[@runrabbit8285]

Some fixes it will

[@billblaski9523]

How could u understand him? He was speaking too fast and mumbling alot

[@chapter11247]

@@billblaski9523 👍😂

[@sheltonceleste]

Just because you have a mental health illness don't make you stupid. Some people function are very high and alot of them are very good at things more than the average person sometimes. His theory is plausible.

[@sarahstrong7174]

Only one of them had a mental illness, the others had learning disabilities. Which might mean that, whilst they had developed some skills, they were not good at coping if they suddenly had to deal with an unexpected situation.

[@richardhinman3183]

You say they were headed for the California Highway Patrol station in Quincy. And you use websites! for the CHP stations to reference the hours and locations of the CHP stations. This happened in 1978. Why would current, new, buildings and hours apply to 1978???.

[@soxpeewee]

Some of the locations and hours are the same

[@msnovtue]

The owner/driver of the Mercury was known to keep several paper maps in his glovebox (as was common before cellphones/internet/etc.). ***Assuming*** the CHP stations existed at the time, they would've been marked on the paper maps.

[@ltandronicus]

Thats a good point and we shouldnt assume they were the same as in 1978. However I dont think it detracts from the overall argument that much. WHY the boys went up the road that night is ultimately just pure speculation and its entirely possible that they were still trying to get to Quincy for a reason as simple as what is suggested. Once they go up the road the rest of the events probably transpired very closely to how its described in the video.

[@fumanpoo4725]

No CHP connection.

[@BarklyMitford]

Definitely some interesting conjecture. The whistle of the car tyres stuck in snow is a solid conclusion. However, I’m still not convinced, it seems facts are being ignored that don’t fit this theory.

[@eduardocolella]

a lot of facts.

[@GamewthGaim]

But why were they going to that office? I mean sure, good theory. But there is no motive..

[@santiagozarpado1145]

it could be. we will never know. but anyway it is better explanation

[@GamewthGaim]

@@santiagozarpado1145 I agree it's better, and answers a lot of questions. But in doing so has to make some broad assumptions as to why they were there in the first place. For instance, I would assume that if this was their favorite state team, they would likely be familiar with how to get there. While there is a large portion of this I agree with, the motive is heavily assumed.

[@soxpeewee]

Supposedly they had an altercation in the parking lot after the game

[@MisterK-YT]

Thanks for putting this together! Every video about this event is just describing the story and the events that took place; they never offer an explanation and hypothesis for what happened here. Well done! (Constructive feedback: Speak slower and more clearly next time 👍👍)

[@Dravianpn02]

Bedtime stories does.

[@Itstimetoboogie45]

This is the best theory I've heard about this mystery. Good work!

[@brockbaby]

Great recap! Speaking a tad slower will be helpful for me to digest and what your'e staying to sink into my head! ;)

[@DMChase17]

i love your theory, I truly think you are on the right track. They missed that sporting event ( something they would have never done) so something very important , life saving, they saw they had to get help. They wouldnt ask stargers for help and went to authority. CHPS. Or they went somewhere thinking it was a shortcut to something and thats when your theory comes in.

[@mrnt1257]

The halting voice is very hard to listen to.

[@mattholomule7810]

I'm not sure this channel's Creator cares about quality. But nonetheless I do like this video LOL I'm not sure why it's got a strange tune to it almost like ASMR I could fall asleep to it

[@amandanegrete1306]

10:57 paints a great picture.

[@elinoirsmythe224]

Great theory, thanks for sharing! I'm not sure I believe the driving to CHP offices aspect, but I think you're completely right in that the key lies in how they got onto the mountain in the first place. Once they were stranded there, what happened next is all too easy to figure.

[@degrelleholt6314]

But if it snowed the day after the Montego was found (Sunday--delaying the start of the search), would not the forestry service have gone back up to the tailers to remove the snow again from the flat roofs and discovered our missing gentlemen? And you said yourself that there being five of them; why didn't they just get out and push the car out of the slippery spot? Two of the guys were in the Amry--they would have recognized dehydrated food when they saw it. I was in the service and the Scouts, and I know freeze dried food (especially if it's marked on the box) when I see it. The best explanation I have seen is from a gentleman who has worked with mentally challenged people: the MH/MR make very bad decisions when put into stress situations. But I doubt they were looking for the CHP. Why? Do you know what may have happened that they would do this? Because of the phantom woman with the baby? What happened to her? I think there's some good info in your guess at this, but also a lot of supposition.

[@Scott_Terry]

I'm torn between two theories. On the one hand, I like the theory that they went up there on their own, probably to help a hitchhiker; but then, why inexplicably leave the car and never return to it? On the other hand, we do have at least two confessions as to murder, one close to the time of the searches (after which, the man who confessed died the next day of apparent suicide by drug overdose), and the other from a preacher who was confessing his sins in front of his congregation (one sin being: murder of Gary M...a confession which lined up with the other confession from years earlier). But then, if this version is true, Gary died at the dam and the boys were inexplicably forced up the road and into the woods. So how would Gary's shoes have made their way to the cabin? Why would they take the keys with them but never return to the car? Too many loose ends on this theory...

[@degrelleholt6314]

@@Scott_Terry I had never heard of any of those things. Thanks. I guess there is a helluva lot more to this story than I have heard before.

[@Scott_Terry]

@@degrelleholt6314 Mopac Audio and Glassbox Media recently did an in-depth podcast on the Yuba County 5 where the producers went back and found many of the original family members who were still alive or who knew the 5 personally. They dug up old, scratchy, audio of the guy who supposedly had a heart-attack in his car (he sounded shady for sure), as well as some of the police involved in the search. It was fascinating. They also let slip little factoids like: not only were Gary's shoes found in the cabin, they found little notes there actually written by Gary! The podcast says the notes were "lost" then never follows up on them. I thought that was huge, so I did some digging: turns out, they were probably little pre-written motivational / inspirational notes Gary kept with him, so - the mystery continues. Are his shoes and those notes evidence he made it to the cabin? Maybe. Maybe not... The podcast isn't on youtube, but if you google "Yube County Five Podcast" you'll find the Mopac Audio version. ...and me recommending that podcast isn't meant to take away from this particular video, which I still think is very well done.

[@MiddlePath33]

3 witnesses mentioned a red pickup truck

[@fumanpoo4725]

Define witness.

[@Char-Williams]

Nice. Now, what are your thoughts on the Dyatlov Pass incident?

[@BarklyMitford]

A lot of assumptions buddy.

[@yossarianmnichols9641]

You need to talk to someone about your sound effects. They are disturbing. Are you fully employed?

[@aMSkEes]

Nice job, really enjoyed your video.

[@billblaski9523]

Only mystery is why they went up the mountains for

[@therealdarrenlwilliams2183]

I am from Yuba City- I would have been 12 years old when this happened. This is my first time learning of this

[@gutturaldarkness]

10:25

[@chapter11247]

Should be working for LucasFilms.

[@lilyleia78]

That is a lot of assumptions to just go ahead and declare this solved.

[@yossarianmnichols9641]

You are right about American cars. However I had a 1970 Plymouth Valiant and it was solid.

[@thegrt420]

Slant 6 ? Never die...lol mine was push button clutch

[@Funckle73]

Thanks for a fresh perspective.

[@GangplankPhilly]

so youre assuming they needed to go to a highway patrol office for some reason? why would they need that? i didnt even know highway patrol offices were a thing, why would mentally challenged people? lol what?

[@LiliRoseMcKayMusic]

I actually think it's plausible, especially if you believe the reports that they were being chased or threatened by people they met at the basketball game. They might have thought it was their only chance at finding safety. the CPH is a state law enforcement agency and often people not raised in big cities are taught to trust state but not city law enforcement. that last part might be meaningless tho idk

[@titaniumvulpes]

"i didnt even know highway patrol offices were a thing, why would mentally challenged people" Why.. wouldn't we? I mean, for one thing you're supposed to report large roadkill (deer for example) or debris (lost tires, hubcaps, etc) to the highway patrol office and I've known that since I was a kid. There were no cell phones back then, just popping over to an office would've been the best way to report something. Just because nobody taught _you_ laws doesn't mean the rest of us were left behind.

[@cv507]

but why drive to quincy ? cant listen through this g8ed mess? ?

[@chapter11247]

@@cv507 Yeah. The video is more baffling than their disappearance.

[@lorimac0260]

I love the artwork!

[@chloeplayz4855]

This video is genius. Well done. Some very plausible theories here. This is excellent. Thank you. Will you do other cases? I'm from Ireland and the unsolved case of Trevor Deeley still baffles Irish people to this day.

[@amandanegrete1306]

I don’t know who Trevor Deeley is but I will find out now.

[@tobybeasley2079]

- please speak more clearly ....not so choppy and mumbly ...so hard to understand....had to turn on the subtitles ! -..great content though !

[@mattholomule7810]

Lol is this creator still even around???

[@chapter11247]

@@mattholomule7810 Hopefully not !!

[@Lot_2023]

You sound like you have a cab waiting.

[@sboazable]

Overall pretty solid although alot of conclusions are drwn even if they are reasonable. This was the first time i heard the theory that they may never had any idea there was a big cache of food even if they saw it and it makes allot of sense. Also the image of the layout of the service building was a first for me and in other videos it's portrayed as a tiny one room primative shack in the middle of the forest, seeing the layout was really interesting

[@billblaski9523]

Did u see the caption, he said the interior arrangement was made up. The trailer was indeed just one room

[@howdareyouexist]

take it easy on the uppers dude

[@chapter11247]

😂😂

[@julielevinge266]

I’m sure these men would not have been able to make the logical decisions that you claim? If they had seen anything that needed reporting I’m sure they’d have gone home to their family’s & told them about it, if they’d even realised this was the case? I feel they were spooked by something or someone, what happened to missing man? Tragically,sad case😔

[@shikawgoh]

Although your theory has some elements that seem possibly plausible, this video leaves out a ton of information. No offense, but there are much much better in depth videos out there that go into much greater detail of the events surrounding this mysterious situation. That all being said, I too think that the answers are more along the lines of some kind of Occam‘s razor, and that I doubt foul play was involved. I’ve heard other people bring up the possibility of the car having issues as they were known to be temperamental. I think there’s a good possibility of that coming into play. Some people like to belabor the fact that the car still had gas, and then it started up when it was hot wired but that doesn’t mean that during the moment that night, it did have trouble starting up. Why the men decided to walk further up the mountain, as opposed to going back to where they had just driven from is very strange to me. Also, the whole encounter with the man in the VW is almost like a red herring, as he is such an unreliable narrator. Who knows what he saw, and what he didn’t see and what truly happened with him that night. He had been drinking and had a heart attack. Who knows. Was he involved in someway? Possibly. But he was also known to be quite the liar and a big mouth who liked attention. Again, there’s a whole lot more to this story that can be done justice in a 12 minute video. There’s a six part podcast that covers this story in much greater detail. I highly recommend listening to it.

[@runrabbit8285]

Man. Slow down a bit.. Add some drama music be a great mystery channel.

[@harleyhendrix8467]

Why? He has 5th grade drawings. Hehe

[@chapter11247]

@@harleyhendrix8467 LOL👍

[@AttergYorlum]

I appreciate the fast albeit shitty narration

[@chapter11247]

Yeah,but you gotta admit the cool sound effects made up for that.

[@Terminal5384]

What the hell did I just watch 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@DJDefConn]

Bruh hi

[@howdareyouexist]

the ramblings of a nutjob who took some speed

[@chapter11247]

I'm asking myself the same question !!😂

[@fredklaiss8964]

What's with the audio!

[@StellaChristelle]

Oh no there’s a few great ones with excellent explanations.

[@krudilahetzmannreturns8292]

Oh man... I like the attempt at somewhat simplifying the case to make it more digestable but there were so many errors and wrong assumptions, Jesus... also I find it incredibly disrespectful to reduce these 5 men to just their supposed disability/illness. They were much more than just "the guy with schizophrenia" or "the guy with the learning disability" .... for all I know you could as well have called them "retarded"... the way you did it isn't much more respectful.

[@lo-fiFromChicago]

Very interesting, nice video.

[@mattholomule7810]

Glad you made the VIDEO.....BUT....its still not solved. A "MYSTERY"

[@HardWhereHero]

I enjoyed the illustrations. 👍

[@tomast1323]

Thanks for the video:)

[@HomesteadGirls]

This makes the most sense of any theory I've heard about these guys.

[@BarklyMitford]

Joe Schons whole story is totally suspect and I reckon you need to look more carefully into this part of the story buddy.

[@eliasdiaz7889]

Epic sound fx

[@Terminal5384]

10:24 😂😂😂😂

[@chapter11247]

Cool sound effects😂

[@stonefree2573]

unless you were there IT IS STILL A MYSTERY....nice attempt though

[@davidandrews190]

If there was concern why were they allowed to drive out on such a cold miserable night?

[@annychest718]

So sad 😭

[@sarahstrong7174]

Very sad.

[@ricardomcmahon5658]

Sounds good but It's only Ur opinion.. Nobody knows

[@danjohnson887]

Umm... Your narration is so bad that I'm thinking you could easily be the "sixth man" in the Yuba City Five. If you're going to try and produce an upload, at least give it an honest try... This has to be a joke...

[@mccinnamonbuns5372]

You are so smart lmao

[@chapter11247]

Another case solved !!😂

[@santiagozarpado1145]

Thanks!

[@firstnamelastname-oy7es]

Yuba city 5 Inc

[@gossimer3]

😢💔

[@teenieneenie630]

Ugh...!

[@chapter11247]

😂😂😂

[@viannaefregoso2113]

wack as heck bro

[@runrabbit8285]

Do it better

[@cv507]

think its a mystery like flite 19. we are by far pröbäbblie knöt smarterr than an af ´cäpn? marvellöss v v anyway pröbäbblie knöt an ördinärry $ün ^ ^