Ranking the Top 10 NBA Centers of All Time

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[@NealBones]

If Dwight had never had that first bad back injury, I truly believe that Dwight would still be a force to be reckoned with.

[@proshit707]

Orlando Dwight is mad underappreciated

[@PROBENICCOMPS]

Fr look at his Orlando highlights he looks like a demi god

[@tmac731]

It all depends if Howard got a post game or not

[@tj5180]

@@tmac731 he had a solid one

[@glennrobinson.377]

Dwight Howard defeated Prime Lebron James in the 2009 ECF.

[@GBees]

Personally I got Hakeem as the best center all time

[@hepwo91222]

I mean stats its Wilt, titles its Russell, combination of both and even more accolades, Kareem. Physical dominance, Shaq. But just watching Hakeem play, if I were a scout, I would call him the best I have seen, he is too skilled, too agile, too quick, too good.

[@Mahmoud-bl3hp]

For me hes second right after Kareem

[@cycling_posts6423]

i got him a close close 2nd best

[@PROBENICCOMPS]

It’s either Hakeem or Kareem on who’s the best center of all time Even Shaq admitted that

[@hepwo91222]

@@PROBENICCOMPS I lean more towards Hakeem. Yes, Kareem has more titles, accolades, lifetime stats, etc. But in both their primes, I think Hakeem would dominate Kareem.

[@Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie]

The Dwight Howard respect is much appreciated

[@MrE_]

As it should be

[@housesuns-kings8480]

fax

[@glennrobinson.377]

Dwight Howard defeated Prime Lebron James in the 2009 Eastern Conference Finals.

[@MrE_]

@AKIVA COLEMAN dwight has like 3 or 4 dpoy, with a finals appearance, and a ring

[@glennrobinson.377]

@@MrE_ Dwight Howard- 3x DPOY. Mutombo and Ben Wallace- 4x DPOY.

[@dansheshe8039]

You should do this for current players

[@jameslucas4173]

Yea what he ⬆️ said

[@bekiboo9]

No

[@bekiboo9]

No.

[@bekiboo9]

N o

[@bekiboo9]

Bad idea

[@stanleylegan7234]

Mad disrespect to Bill for calling him Draymond in today’s league smh, solid list otherwise

[@crown926]

Bill wasnt a pseudo roleplayer like Green SMH. This dude's BB knowledge is questionable.

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

@@crown926 and he talks about the lack of teams but The 24th pick of the 1st round today would be the final pick of the 3rd round in the 60's. Only the cream of the crop get to play in the NBA in the 60's. To cite an example, Russell would face off Wilt Chamberlain 8-9 times a season. When he is not fighting Wilt, he is fending off other Hall of Famers 8-9x again like Nate Thurmond, Jerry Lucas, Willis Reed etc. you get the drift. They have to work their butts off almost everytime. In contrast in the 90's, Shaq only facedoff with Ewing in the East 4x and faces-off with Hakeem and Robinson in the West 2x. Russell and Wilt dueled 142x during a ten year period. Compared that to Bird and Magic who for close to eleven years, only dueled 37x. The top players in the 60's face an opponent worthy of his abilities MORE OFTEN.

[@crown926]

@@casualfandestroyer2503 Right, which eliminates the team number talking point. Bill's raw athleticism is one in millions and he'd be a freak physically and defensively in any given era. Dude was legitimately over 7 feet with a 45+ or higher vert, he was leaping over defenders. He was a superstar and paid rightfully so. He created interior defense and when it was the thing, he'd still dominate at it against the other centers like you said. His game limited Wilt at times and he played better elite defense than Wilt. His vertical rim protection d was a masterpiece. On that end, man was David Robinson on even more steroids (figuratively). Openly cising Wilt then downplaying Bill's game in the process is CRINGE. Bill is the best defensive GOAT and dare I say, had a higher impactful peak than Wilt. And this was bc of Bill's perfectly team fit style of defense.

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

@@crown926 bill was a more impactful defender than wilt was offensive player. Also wilt was around 290 he had to gather himself before leaping he didn’t have Russell’s timing blocking shots Russell sprang off the floor at moments notice

[@Nootasaur]

@@casualfandestroyer2503 Bruh the 24th pick in today’s game would be a Hall of Fame level player in the 60s. The Celtics also had the most stacked team in NBA history and Bill Russell is arguably the worst offensive Center in NBA history. It’s bad for a Center to be shooting 52% from the field, but Russell is a Center going against worse defences and shooting 44% from the field, like that is horrible. Draymond is a better offensive player than Russell, defensive wise they are probably around the same, playmaking Green takes that easily. You say he had to verse 8-9 hall of famers? The 1962 Celtics had 9 Hall of famers on their team including Bill Russell.

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

1962 Finals - Russell averaged 23-27-6 on 54%, led his team in pts/rebs 1963 Finals - Russell averaged 20-26-5 on 47% 1965 Finals - Russell averaged 18-25-6 on 70%, NBA Finals record for FG% 1966 Finals - Russell averaged 24-24-4 on 54%, led his team in pts/rebs and that’s Draymond? Yeah ok

[@tj5180]

@@RepeatAfterMe_ASMR fr

[@yvans.]

In my opinion I wouldn’t have Jokic in my top 10 center all time right now that’s too soon. But the dude who made the video don’t really knows guys like Lanier, McAdoo, Willis Reed so he put Joker by default cause he knows him. List like that are kind of frustrating.

[@tylltolbert8132]

@@yvans. joker is a top 10 center.. no center is a better passer, only one with a higher skill level is Hakeem.. and he won mvp in a guard heavy league. That gets you in the top 10 my guy

[@yvans.]

@@tylltolbert8132 He will be but not right now. And I’m the biggest jokic fan

[@owethunala2632]

I mean his numbers especially his scoring number are pretty inflated due to the pace back then if you look at his scoring more indepth you'd find his scoring rate was pretty far below average. But yes he is way way better than Draymond could imagine. Personally I'd rank Bill above Shaq

[@ryanferrier9964]

Agreed with everything except Bill Russell. So much disrespect to the man who led the most successful team in American professional sports history.

[@papadoc331]

Oveested

[@tj5180]

@@papadoc331 huh ?

[@BravestOfTheBrave]

Context

[@guillermovazquez1084]

Only 8-12 teams in his era, shorter postseason as well, Celtics also overall had depth on those teams in the 60s

[@ryanferrier9964]

@@guillermovazquez1084 Those are good points. I have him #4 on my all-time list because of his success and the fact he's the best defender of all-time (easily has the most blocks and rebounds of all-time if they were recorded his entire career). My list places a heavy emphasis on defense because it's literally half the game.

[@Borispirit]

I love this series you’re doing.. can’t argue with this list it’s good..

[@henrypope4225]

Moses Malone>David Robinson People forget about how Moses carried a Houston Rockets team that had no business making it anywhere near the finals to the finals and got 2 games against the loaded Boston Celtics, not to mention how he would dominate Kareem in the playoffs. The 81 Rockets swept the showtime Lakers in the 1st round.

[@saiyerugara9038]

Completely agreed!

[@gregjonglee]

You are 100% right. At his peak, Moses was fierce and unstoppable. Even Kareem could not compete.

[@christopherbeasley9819]

@@gregjonglee he was indeed top 10. He also trained Hakeem too.

[@tylerhingleton8493]

@@gregjonglee Kareem could compete, but he just got out played by Big Mo

[@Peakfreud]

If Moses didn't play for 9 or 10 teams, I forget How Many.. I think he would be held in higher regard.... Not that it diminishes his accomplishments, but a stable team definitely would have celebrated him more..

[@dreamer2887]

Hakeem has 3 sons on this list

[@YungMustard]

Lol good one

[@Charlie-jf1me]

I personally would have Wilt higher but otherwise, I agree with this list

[@imlaz126]

same for me its 1. KA-J 2. Bill 3. Chamberlain 4. hakeem 5. Shaq 6. David Robinson

[@_MM03]

@@imlaz126 Wilt > Bill 1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 2. Wilt Chamberlain 3. Bill Russell 4. Shaquille O’Neal 5. Hakeem Olajuwon

[@imlaz126]

@@_MM03 ya definitely close but I went with bill cuz he’s a much better defender and plays a simpler and more effective role in winning. Meaning it’s easier to build a team around bill russell rather than the excessively ball dominant wilt chamberlain. Wilt chamberlain did have a superteam of his own in LA and only won once there.

[@_MM03]

@@imlaz126 can’t argue that

[@imlaz126]

@@_MM03 thank u for seeing my view. Can’t tell u how many times ppl just said I was wrong 😑. No back up statement no opinion of their own just flat out “ I was wrong”

[@tj5180]

Bill Russell didn't need to score. He averaged around 15 or 18 with elite defense and offensively. He was a good playmaker translation and can run the floor . He's a capable scorer. Plus his Fg % doesn't even have context at all because of the era he played in and average shooting percentage. Plus TS % league average in the 60s were around mid 40s not like in today's nba

[@brycesmoov3313]

He didn’t shoot 3s so TS doesn’t really mean nun

[@tj5180]

@@brycesmoov3313 that`s my point. the average TS in his era was mid 40s it wasn`t bad with the era he played in

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

@@tj5180 1962 Finals - Russell averaged 23-27-6 on 54%, led his team in pts/rebs 1963 Finals - Russell averaged 20-26-5 on 47% 1965 Finals - Russell averaged 18-25-6 on 70%, NBA Finals record for FG% 1966 Finals - Russell averaged 24-24-4 on 54%, led his team in pts/rebs and that’s Draymond? Yeah ok that dude must be high

[@flexinja1166]

And to top that off Bill Russell has a case for being the greatest defensive player of all time.

[@tj5180]

@@flexinja1166 not even a debate

[@KostasSiderisBarista]

Hakeem lucks of accolades? Really? Being the one who won MVP, DPOY, MVP Finals and NBA Champion in the same year WITHOUT a single All Star teammate and dominating 3 of your top 10 while doing so? And then he repeated his CH status with an ex-all star teammate. Kareem and Shaq, remind me, who were their teammates? You, yourself, put them in your top 10 in their perspective positions.... Hakeem? Give me some solid role players and I got it....! Accolades? Really???

[@aintnoway8594]

Let’s put some context, Shaq was not in his prime against Hakeem and Kobe wasn’t a superstar player for their first ring, I don’t even think he was an allstar but I’m not sure on that. Kareem, you can have that I put Hakeem over Kareem too

[@KostasSiderisBarista]

@@aintnoway8594 He wasn't improved in anything in the Lakers. In fact he was slower, cause he gained a lot of fat! Check his numbers! He had the same numbers and some of them are better, compared to his Lakers years. He did things while being leaner, that he couldn't do when he was with the Lakers. Magic managed to get to the Finals but they were green and had the bad luck to match up against a seasoned Hakeem. Damn, he finished just second to the MVP voting!!!!

[@aintnoway8594]

@@KostasSiderisBarista Shaq could not control the paint as good in Orlando compared to la also he became a better playmaker out the post, and although he got slower he was way harder to control in the finals ask dikembe who was old but also still a dpoy candidate and u said it yourself Hakeem was seasoned while it was shaq third year in the league and yes his stats are similar, but so was giannis this year and 2019 but we know he got better bc of experience

[@aintnoway8594]

@@KostasSiderisBarista regular season stats didn’t change but check the playoffs and you’ll se a difference

[@KostasSiderisBarista]

@@aintnoway8594 they were all green. Penny was green, Anderson was green, even Scott. Shaq he just couldn't be better than Hakeem in that matchup. Your other arguments are objective. LA was a more seasoned team and while having better teammates, your contribution will elevate, especially when we compare PlayOffs. Don't put Giannis in the mix, totally different examples. Giannis got also physical better. He developed more skills and moves in his repertoir. He hasn't even reach his potential yet. Shaq was already there on the Magics! He was voted over Hakeem that season for MVP while Hakeem was already the champ!!!! His stats were stacked already!!!!

[@henrypope4225]

Love the content but there is too much recency bias in these lists. When it’s all said and done, Jokic will be in the top 10, but it’s too early to put him here over guys like Reed, Unseld, and even Bill Walton. Dwight’s dominance in the late 2000s-early 2010s is undeniable, but he played in the weakest era of centers in NBA history. Wouldn’t have even been a top 5 center in the 90s.

[@paquinraino8180]

Jokic can easily be over Unseld and maybe Wakton but it's too early to put him over Reed

[@henrypope4225]

@@paquinraino8180 I agree with that Willis is underrated af

[@tj5180]

@@paquinraino8180 walton had a short prime but if healthy yes

[@nikosofidemporas]

And how about Mcadoo? MVP, 2-time champion and one of the first bigs with a great jump shot. Plus, Robinson over Moses is just insane.

[@stayofftheweeeeeeed7249]

Alonzo Mourning?

[@the_mike_essen_show2484]

I put Russell #1. I understand your points. With 133 Defensive Win Shares, and he did amazing things that didn’t show up on statistics. Blocked Shots, DPOY and Finals MVP weren’t recorded. He organized the fast break, the only thing which stopped him from being the yearly assist leader was he was a little behind the line. His inspiration and defensive skills won the Championships and would today. After all, same result in College

[@kitwanatyhimba5247]

Young Mustard, this video was on point ✨❗️ Loved your presentation of data. Keep the good work ✨❗️

[@lou4958]

The Dream didn't have any help like Shaq and Kareem but that's none of my business 🤧🥃

[@NealBones]

Also won 2 championships while fasting

[@hepwo91222]

He got his old college teammate Clyde Drexler in a trade for his second title, but I think the ROckets were a 5th or 6th seed team that year that won a title. My point is I agree, Rockets may have been the weakest 2 time championship team I have seen in my life, but they still pulled it off due to The Dream!

[@jasonmoukala8909]

He had help in 95

[@hepwo91222]

@@jasonmoukala8909 meh, they traded for CLyde Drexler that season and it wasn't one of his better seasons. I think they were a 5th or 6th seed team that won the title, but I think many of the teams they beat were actually better teams, just Dream was sooooo good.

[@tj5180]

@@hepwo91222 1994 was a bad supporting cast but I wouldnt say 1995 was bad either. They still had good role players and drexler who was a star in the league still

[@bensagal-morris8072]

I’d honestly put Hakeem over Shaq. I know you said in the power forwards video that Dirk’s 2011 run is in your opinion the most impressive but Hakeem’s 1994 and 1995 runs are honestly two of the top 10 ever. In ‘94 he had no players on his team who were all stars and still got them to the finals. He also won MVP, DPOY and FMVP in the same year, the only player to ever do that. He humiliated all the centers of his era. Then in ‘95 he dragged a sixth seed team to the championship. Those are arguably the two biggest carry jobs of all time and two of the most difficult rings of all time. 3 of Shaq’s rings came with Kobe and the great Lakers supporting cast. Hakeem made that team champions by himself.

[@yourdaddy6030]

I'm not sure I'd have to look it up but I'm being lazy right now. So I'm going to speculate. I bet that Shaq had a higher percentage of his team's total points in the finals with the Lakers from 99 to 02 than Hakeem had in his two finals appearances with Houston.

[@bensagal-morris8072]

@@yourdaddy6030 I think Kobe in 01 and 02 makes that not true.

[@Alijahboi]

Shaq>hakeem

[@mcentepede]

Have to agree with this dude ...The Dream destroyed Robinson, Ewing, Shaq, and other centers on route to back to back rings. With no real superstars until the Glide joined him. I honestly think this is underated because the Dream is a nice fella, Muslim, and African. But the facts don't lie. The Dream is my number 2 all time center

[@mcentepede]

@@yourdaddy6030 Hakeem can contribute in all facets of the game and make his free throws, plus Shaq admitted that he couldn't break the Dream

[@ncsouthernguy]

George Mikan is my number 1. He played with brittle bones. Broke bones multiple times. Had to retire after 9 seasons. He won 7 championships in 8 seasons in 3 different leagues. If mvp’s and finals mvp’s were a thing back then, he would have 6 mvps and 5 finals mvps. He also won the scoring title 6 times. So imagine if he played 15 to 20 seasons. No center would ever come close to his championships and awards.

[@ma7maz]

Incredible list bro made me learn new things and gave context which is surprisingly rare

[@_Genius_Mind_]

I would take Hakeem over Shaq any day.

[@marcobauer9861]

nah

[@jahblemanuel7733]

yeah even shaq said hakeem is the greatest center when shaq was in his prime at 99

[@peterguidry6084]

If you look at the stats Hakeem beats Shaq in every statistical category except Points per game. Hakeem has more Rebounds, Blocks, Steals, Assists than Shaq. Hakeem was a better free-throw shooter Hakeem was a better defender. Hakeem had a better arsenal of Offensive moves Hakeem had a mid range shot and could move like a guard. Also Hakeem faced a larger collection of Superstar centers in his prime than Shaq had to face. Shaq only caught the tail end (about 4 years)of some of greatest centers ever before they retired. By 2000s you can't even name a superstar center in the league during Shaqs dominance. Only until Yao Ming came got into the league was there competition at center. Also Jordan views Olajuwon as better and Shaq own teammates viewed Olajuwon as better than Shaq. Robert Horry who played with Duncan, Shaq and Olajuwon said Olajuwon was the best out of the 3 hall of famers. Gary Payton who played against both and played with Shaq stated thatOlajuwon was better. Payton said "Shaq would move Olajuwon with his strength and power but Olajuwon would laugh and say good one, then proceed to drop 30 or 40 points on Shaq anytime he wanted to." This article came out a year ago. Even Shaq says Olajuwon was better than him and he even said it again this past allstar game.

[@Slapshot544]

Same. I'd take Hakeem over any other center in history dudes under rated on a lot of people's list

[@JamesBrown-fd1nv]

@@peterguidry6084 I'm taking Muggsy Bogues all day. He could stuff those two 😉🙂

[@KostasSiderisBarista]

Ewing, Robinson and Shaq didn't choke against Hakeem. He outclassed them. He even outclassed Kareem when he was a sophomore!

[@tmac731]

Kareem was almost 40. I would like to see 1986 Hakeem v 1976 Kareem

[@KostasSiderisBarista]

@@tmac731 76 Kareem against 95 Hakeem is more equal. Hakeem just strarted playing basketball in college. He played soccer before.

[@KostasSiderisBarista]

@@tmac731 he was almost 38 to be exact and still hitting numbers. Hakeem was green at that time and if you watch the games as I did, you will realize that 95 Hakeem was a monster compared to his old self

[@tmac731]

@@KostasSiderisBarista i was born in 1998 so I couldn’t watch them lol but 1995 Hakeem was a monster conspired to his YOUNGER self lol and Kareem at 38 was putting 24 and 9 but it was not the 30 and 15 in his prime

[@KostasSiderisBarista]

@@tmac731 and I add to your argument that Hakeem was not close to the refubrished Hakeem you saw winning MVP, DPOY, Finals MVP and the NBA Championship in the 90s against the toughest centers era of all time by schooling each and every one of them....

[@safelton]

The ranking is fine. I watched Bill Russell when I was a teen-ager. What made him and the Celtics special was their team play. Again and again they beat teams with better talent because they played like a team. As well he was the coach of the Celtics while playing, which none of the others did, showing how smart he was.

[@rlmalonzo1184]

Nice...been waiting for this!

[@Strive4G8ness23]

Great series fr! Ever considered rounding everything off with doing a top 10 all time?

[@kevinmitchell386]

Will Jokic pass dwight all time, probably but no way you can look at his career and put it against Dwight's and say he's higher all time, dwight is clearly higher than jokic all time currently

[@greekyoungbuck]

I wouldn't say clearly deepening how you look at it but I do agree.

[@anthonyyasona8237]

This guy makes many hot takes in favor of the younger players

[@Peakfreud]

@@anthonyyasona8237 I noticed that too. Jokic is playing in an Era where there's barely any centers in the league just stretch fours & fives. Playing in the Ewing, Robinson, Hakeem and the over lapping Duncan, Shaq & Even Alonzo Mourning Era was Savage .

[@takedownTony6]

Joking has back to back MVPs and Dwight has 0 that right there is enough

[@timothyfitzgerald5459]

I almost unsubscribed over the Russel comments and I love this channel

[@clifflawrence7479]

Great video and very well thought out

[@tj5180]

Artis Gilmore is a HM.

[@NealBones]

Artis Gilmore, Wes Unsled, Bill Walton, George Mikan, (Maybe) Ben Wallace. The first 4 are guaranteed HM's. Wallace I feel like deserves more recognition for all he accomplished with his career, but 99% of it was on one side of the ball so he stays a maybe

[@henrypope4225]

If ABA stats counted Artis would be top 6

[@tj5180]

@@henrypope4225 idk about that. Probably 7 or 8th. Not that high

[@henrypope4225]

@@tj5180 Maybe not but definitely top 10

[@meep7895]

if you dont have russell in your top 3 centers, then is he even in your top 10 players?

[@Syre_]

He’s not in anyone’s top 3s

[@tj5180]

He is top 3

[@tj5180]

Stop talking basketball if u think bill Russell is not a top 3 center or top 10

[@flexinja1166]

@Seth Sabeta Bullshit

[@patoooo2]

There is atleast 4 centers in the top ten players.

[@philvenn576]

Love this videos. Late to the game but glad I made it.

[@charliebeauregard5623]

1. Hakeem 2. Wilt 3. Kareem 4. Shaq 5. Russell

[@sammyparmar7307]

Nice vid man

[@edwardlomeli5657]

dont think you were consistent enough with championships * playing a factor among each person. Also, you downplayed some players achievements due to not having as much competition while you didn't for others

[@tj5180]

It's always modern nba fans who say that about the era they played in. When that doesn't affect their ranking at all even if they did.

[@edwardlomeli5657]

@@tj5180 i see it happening to all people but for me it's usually old school fans that do that more. Championships don't mean as much to me when rating people. Some people were just unlucky to be on bad teams or play in periods of GOAT crews. I will say though accomplishments ( like championships) do play a factor when accounting for what type of help you had. Such as if Mj lost the first two seasons he had Rodman and the rest of his godly crew. People doing more with less ( like Iverson) i will rank higher or give them a higher ranking in that category.

[@aintnoway8594]

Facts u can but Kareem in the same class as bill and wilt

[@Papichulo-xc5nd]

@@edwardlomeli5657 Lol this dude with his revisionist history smh. Talking about Bi11 Russell competion You got jordan #1 and he played in a diluted era. “The league is so filtered and watered down. I don’t think anyone can beat us with our eyes closed. -“Dennis Rodman … smh lmao

[@imanmarshal-sulayman1464]

Another banger of a list Mustard!!!

[@Dont_Click_On_My_Video]

Great list, next you should do top 10 nba players all time and top 10 in the league right now

[@primetimesports7901]

I have Hakeem as the greatest center of all time. Circumstance matters when discussing success and championships in the NBA. And the Rockets were not only notoriously injured in his early years but management did him no favors. Like actively feuded with him. It’s a wonder he stayed with he team long enough to win any titles

[@chrisgecaj9862]

Without a doubt in my opinion he’s the greatest! Totally agree with you

[@HadeyanUtkan]

agree

[@mcentepede]

I replied already. He's my number 2 because he picked up basketball late in his life...As a teenager, so he is somewhat of a late bloomer. Proof of this is his utter destruction of prime David Robinson in 1995. Coming off Dream Team a couple years B4 and a MVP Title....he was dismantled by The Dream.

[@UnconventionalReasoning]

It seems that we key in on a few seasons of Hakeem's and say he was the best center.

[@futureDreamer4]

I'll put Moses over Robinson.Hakeem to me is the greatness center of all time and has outclassed all other centers.

[@jacoboburke5821]

Great list.

[@ushermore6893]

If Arvydas Sabonis could have played an entire career in the NBA, he would have been Jokic before he was even a thought

[@glennrobinson4176]

Sabonis is better than Jokic.

[@peolfpetler8500]

​@@glennrobinson4176 In your dream bud

[@user-zw1wr9no8v]

Excellent list. Not much to quibble with. Being older than dirt and having watched Chamberlain at his peak he has to rank above everyone with the exception of Jabbar. That great team in Philly in 66-67 with HOFers Greer, Walker, Cunningham, and others like Luke Jackson and Wali Jones was arguably one of the best of all time. Until then, Wilt’s supporting cast was no match for Russell’s. He should not be penalized because his early teams were not very talented. Also bring old, I might go with Nate Thurmond at number 10.

[@BlueGrovyle]

8:50 Wow, he was even putting up points back in time? Crazy.

[@fe6112]

Good List Bro!

[@retr0shea446]

Now that the joker has won a championship, he easily goes a little higher on the list

[@dreamer2887]

Great list imo I would switch jokic and Dwight

[@aintnoway8594]

Give him 3 more mvp caliber years I agree bc not only Dwight was a mvp caliber player for multiple years but also the best defender in the league by far and took a good but not great magic to the finals beating the Celtics and bron on the way there

[@tj5180]

Howard is better.

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

You didn’t even mention Russell won 5 mvps smfh

[@glennrobinson4176]

Bill Russell=15-ppg. FG-44%. FT-56%. Lol. Bill Russell is one of the most overrated players in Nba history.

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

@@glennrobinson4176 1962 Finals - Russell averaged 23-27-6 on 54%, led his team in pts/rebs 1963 Finals - Russell averaged 20-26-5 on 47% 1965 Finals - Russell averaged 18-25-6 on 70%, NBA Finals record for FG% 1966 Finals - Russell averaged 24-24-4 on 54%, led his team in pts/rebs

[@glennrobinson4176]

@@casualfandestroyer2503 1959 Nba Finals. *Bill Russell=9-ppg. FG-32%. FT-44%.* 9-ppg. ? ? Overrated bum. 1964 Nba Finals. *Bill Russell=11-ppg. FG-39%. FT-48%.* 1969 Nba Finals. *Bill Russell=9-ppg. FG-39%. FT-38%.* I can go on and on. Bill Russell is overrated. Get over it.

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

@@glennrobinson4176 In playoff/finals meetings between Russell and Chamberlain, Wilt's scoring went down each time Wilt = 37.6 ppg in 1959/60 season Wilt = 30.5 ppg vs Russell in 1960 EDF (- 7.1 ppg) Wilt = 50.4 ppg in 1961/62 season Wilt = 33.6 ppg vs Russell in 1962 EDF (- 16.8 ppg) Wilt = 36.9 ppg in 1963/64 season Wilt = 29.2 ppg vs Russell in 1964 Finals (- 7.7 ppg) Wilt = 34.7 ppg 1964/65 season Wilt = 30.1 ppg vs Russell in 1965 EDF (- 4.6 ppg) Wilt = 33.5 ppg in 1965/66 season Wilt = 28.0 ppg vs Russell in 1966 EDF (- 5.5 ppg) Wilt = 24.1 ppg in 1966/67 season Wilt = 21.6 ppg vs Russell in 1967 EDF (- 2.5 ppg the only time he beat Russell) Wilt = 24.3 ppg in 1967/68 season Wilt = 22.1 ppg vs Russell in 1968 EDF (- 2.2 ppg) Wilt = 20.5 ppg in 1968/69 season Wilt = 11.7 ppg vs 35 year old Russell in 1969 Finals (- 8.8 ppg)

[@Papichulo-xc5nd]

@@glennrobinson4176 Lol this dude with his revisionist history smh. Talking about Bi11 Russell competion You got jordan #1 and he played in a diluted era. “The league is so filtered and watered down. I don’t think anyone can beat us with our eyes closed. -“Dennis Rodman … smh lmao

[@blessedcedric8312]

Best center rating video I have seen so far

[@paulanthonyciokon2188]

Shaq attack is a legend

[@EPIGIBSONPHONE]

i think Bill Walton should take the 10 spot over dwight, both great but short peaks. but he did get a chip and an mvp in his peak, an another chip and 6moty in boston. not to mention hes the greatest passing big next to jokic

[@Comictalent]

If you're going to say Jokic should be here despite his lack of longevity, than Bill Walton should take his spot. Late 70s Walton was a brief peak, but many older analysts and writers say he was the best center ever at his apex.

[@employee0]

Absolutely... No offense to Jokic but Walton is WAY better and if not for his injuries, he's probably fighting at the top spot or damn near close.

[@emilfrederiksen.1622]

This aged very badly mate

[@Comictalent]

Haha well fair enough. Jokic is unreal and I probably have moved him up to #7 all-time for centers already. But Walton was still great too and needs to be considered for any top 10 list@@emilfrederiksen.1622

[@Rjz_Kickz]

Perfect list

[@enanebres6481]

Amazing video

[@necdet24kerem]

can u make your top 50 players all-time video?

[@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154]

WILT AT 5 is an abomination…. On the CENTER LIST? The only flaw in his career is the era he played in!!! If not for the greatest dynasty in American sports HISTORY lmaooo he’d be at least a 6x Champ To have 4 players over him at his position is hard to swallow…

[@xlelitedan9186]

The only person u can put him over is bill Russell tbh I don’t see any other argument

[@Papichulo-xc5nd]

@@xlelitedan9186 bruh Russell owned Wilt. Sorry

[@erics9754]

The only flaw is the era he played in lol!!! Those players in that era would wipe the floor with the punks of today. Wilts era was so much tougher than today's soft ladyboy era.

[@Myman989]

Great video

[@raimundasm]

What impresses me about Olajuwon is that during his 94-95 Playoffs he had the least amount of help. Look how much help had other great centers. Almost half of Russel's Celtics were hall of famers. Wilt had Hall Greer and Jerry West. Kareem won with Oscar Robertson and later with Magic and Worthy. Shaq had Kobe and D. Wade. Olajuwon had no other all-Star beside him during his championship runs. In 95 both Olajuwon and Drexler were on all-NBA 3rd team. Olajuwon on his way to a championship beat other great centers of that era, proving that he was the best.

[@cameronjohnson7870]

Can you do a top 10 for coaches and 6th men?

[@tj5180]

Fr

[@chrislacour7330]

When you said the Kareem Skyhook was unstoppable unless you were Wilt Chamberlain, you got my subscribe. So few understand that Wilt was the only one that could get up that high and block the skyhook. There is footage out there showing him blocking the skyhook on a highlight reel. Outstanding analysis and list. Well done Yung Gun.

[@UnconventionalReasoning]

Yes, and Wilt did it on surgically repaired knees, 10 years older than Kareem.

[@griffix2841]

1. Kareem 2. Wilt 3. Hakeem 4. Shaq 5. Bill russell 6. David Robinson 7. Moses Malone 8. Jokic 9. Dwight Howard 10. Ewing

[@desakeem6172]

Good list

[@nolanlounds]

I’ve gotta go Wilt at #2. I know he was a stat padder and arguably hurt his teams more than he helped them sometimes but he still had to put up the points/assists/rebounds/blocks. Most athletic player to ever play and I think if he played in a different era he could’ve easily been #1. Basketball was the Wild West in the 60s there was so little structure I think it actually hurt Wilt by allowing him to do whatever the hell he wanted.

[@stayofftheweeeeeeed7249]

He also lied about Wilt not winning a title with Jerry West. He did win a title.

[@peejaygarcia9509]

@@stayofftheweeeeeeed7249 He meant with the big three of West, Elgin and Wilt. Elgin was injured and a non-factor in the Lakers' title run of 1972... It was really West, Goodrich and Wilt who carried that team. :)

[@chonasimpson6487]

Lol Wilt number one period anyone with a semi functional brain would see this and no one else comes even close 55 rebounds against Russel and the Celtics 25 average 50 point 23 rebounds average one season 100 point game 48.5 minutes a game one season 44 minutes average 48 inch vertical 120 50 point games come on man get educated.32,000 points in 12.5 seasons. Wilt is the best individual player numbers do not lie.

[@woketv781]

@@chonasimpson6487 but wilt weak competition level an underwelming playoffs sucess

[@SheLuvElmer]

I got wilt at 5

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

Walton averaged 5.5 assists per game in the ’77 Playoffs. Russell averaged five assists or more in seven different playoffs,20 PPG in 7 different playoff/finals including 6.3 a game in the ’65 Playoffs (when it was much tougher to get credited for an assist). For his career, Russell averaged playoff (4.7) than any center (except jokic) who ever played more than 30 playoff games.

[@NealBones]

Russell also didn't have blocks or steals as an official recorded stat for most of his career.

[@redpillfreedom6692]

@@NealBones For his entire career. He retired in 1969 and they didn't record blocked shots until 1973.

[@MichaelGibbons-uk2mc]

Same with Wilt.

[@bezllama3325]

Top 10 (IMO) 1. Kareem 2. Hakeem 3. Wilt 4. Shaq 5. Russell 6. Malone 7. Jokic 8. David Robinson 9. Bob Mcadoo 10. George Mikan

[@fanssolperez3430]

Hakeem Olajuwon played 18 seasons for the Rockets and Raptors. He averaged 21.8 points, 11.1 rebounds, 3.1 blocks and 2.5 assists in 1,238 regular-season games. He was selected to play in 12 All-Star games. He won 2 Defensive Player of the Year awards, 1 MVP award, 2 Finals MVP awards and 2 NBA championships. He was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2008.

[@LargeDude2023]

In their peaks, I would have chosen Bill Walton or George Mikan over Dwight.

[@xlelitedan9186]

Same I would put bill Walton at 9 over joking and mikan over Dwight

[@tj5180]

Mikan peak is underrated and u can make a case its one of the best in the nba

[@MrVegasdeuce]

Walton was good in college

[@kej865]

@@tj5180 mikan legit played against farmers lol

[@tj5180]

@@kej865 guys like cousy Russell also petitt and Dolph schayes and neli Johnston and cliff Hagan all played in the 50s and there farmers lol ? Ur too young to know the history about the nba or watch the 50s and research. Stop bringing up the plumber narrative nor neither does that take away how good mikan was

[@AceXun13]

I got Wilt at #1... they made rules for him day of games. Over all the guy was a freak of nature on and off the court.. he chose not to be dominant imagine if he did and to me hes 2× stronger than Shaq and faster than probably 99% of all players you mentioned in any position..

[@chonasimpson6487]

These kids today do not know the man the legend Wilt the stilt if he played today in his prime he would have embarrassed anyone the players today would look like children.

[@AceXun13]

@@chonasimpson6487 at least someone else gives him recognition.. I appreciate you Chona..👍🏾

[@erics9754]

@@AceXun13 Kids today do not know much about basketball history so I can not blame them. They should all make an effort to educate themselves though.

[@logangregory5412]

How do you put Dwight Howard but not Dikembe Mutombo.

[@tj5180]

Don't see a arguement for dikembe over Howard but he's a HM

[@RELLertainment]

Perfect list we need a current players list for all positions

[@rugratziare7600]

Yea you lost me saying Bill Russel would be a Draymond Green in today’s league

[@bensagal-morris8072]

Yeah. Bill Russell is the most disrespected player ever. He’d have been great in any era and he’d also likely be the best player on whatever team he was on.

[@MMMitchy]

I agree with mustard. Bill was a legend of his time. Got to contextualize. Ask yourself what would it look like if you could transport Draymond, or Curry, Jokic, etc into Bill Russell time. What would that look like. His moves and style of play would be blowing minds... That's if Bill doesn't figure out how to play like that too if hes truly legend

[@employee0]

@@MMMitchy Bill was a legend of ALL TIME. I love how young people can only "contextualize" ONE way. "Let's put these guys that have unlimited time in weight rooms with trainers and scouts/coaches working on their game since they were 13 and have access to supplements/HGH, nutrionists and all sorts of sports therapy and have been studying the moves and skills of all the greats before them....Let's put them BACK IN TIME"...... How about we give all the old school players the advantages of today? Transport them? ....... Russell would dominate any era..... And what is with Curry being added to the discussion? He would've never been shit back then being THERE WAS NO 3pt LINE. Even in the 80's he would've been shit because they DISCOURAGED the 3 and would not have been allowed to shoot them free will. Let's try to think next time before we "Contextualize".

[@terrytari1891]

Hakeem Olajuwon dominated Shaq! Even Shaq said so!

[@melvynsngltn27]

When I seen every time they played

[@giovannipierobon6858]

Personally I think that Arvydas Sabonis could have been top 5 without injuries. He was amazing in his prime.

[@zstrikerlol]

I mean, with the elite offensive players bill was playing with, he didn’t have any reason to not lend them the ball. Russell cared more about wins then stay padding, so it makes sense why he would go with the more overall beneficial option of letting them do the scoring

[@MOCdude]

Yooooooo mad respect to having Dwight Howard and I believe Nikola Jokic deserves the 9 spot (even if it’s early, he does have that MVP) 🏀

[@Ryan_c_wilson]

Lol

[@mike04574]

howard needs to be higher

[@MOCdude]

@@mike04574 I think he’s perfect at that spot… Dwight was great but his prime was cut short compared to the others whose prime & peak were higher and better

[@mike04574]

@@MOCdude at this point, after just 5-6 seasons in the NBA tho?...

[@MOCdude]

@@mike04574 yeah… he has a great defensive impact but his offense was never on the level that Ewing’s, Robinson’s or even Moses’s was… and that’s ok… Dwight still proved he is a HOF, the best center in his era… he still saved the center position in the worst era of centers… and now guys like Jokic, Embiid, & Towns will carry the torch (also Bam & Ayton too)

[@justacracker7926]

Dwight the most slept on center

[@A1._.-_-]

The like to dislike ratio is right where it should be 😂😂😂

[@henrydenry9508]

1. Wilt Chamberlains 2. Hakeem 3. Shaq 4. Kareeem 5. Bill 6.Moses 7. Giannis 8. Robinson 9. Ewing 10. Wes unseld

[@baills7656]

Lakers part 1 killed dwights career and lakers part 2 saved it 😂

[@YungMustard]

ehh i see whatchu mean but even if he aint go back and win, his legacy is still the same to me

[@KostasSiderisBarista]

When you refer to Ewing's era, why you and generally people forget about centers like Mourning, Mutombo, Daugherty?

[@kingkunta2977]

Cause their not in the top 10

[@KostasSiderisBarista]

@@kingkunta2977 he reffered to Larry Johnson....

[@YungMustard]

Lmao why are you making things up? I never once said that nigga Larry Johnson name mane 😂

[@1504Shawn]

Bill Russell = 11x championships, 5x MVPs, 2º most rebounds of all time, average most blocks of all time (8.1), and has the most defensive win share of all time Bill Russell is the greatest center of all time

[@1neomonkey]

Hakeem dominated Shaq in the 90s, it wasn't even close. Literally no one during that era ever had Shaq ahead of Hakeem. No one. Not even Shaq would have said that.

[@shreyasramani1437]

I'd have Bill Russell at number 1, yes he didn't have a great Fg%, but if that's not hurting the team, which it clearly didn't, it shouldn't be a problem. Your list is great though, but here's mine 1. Russell 2. Kareem 3. Hakeem 4. Shaq 5. Wilt 6. Moses Malons 7. Robinson 8. Willis Reed 9. Elvin Hayes 10. George Mikan

[@kingkunta2977]

1. Kareem 2. Hakeem 3. Shaq 4. Russell 5. Wilt

[@YungMustard]

Appreciate the support, but get George Mikan tf on outta there

[@tj5180]

@@YungMustard only reason u don't want him in top 10 was because of the era he played in I guess😂🙄

[@Papichulo-xc5nd]

@@YungMustard Lol this dude with his revisionist history smh. Talking about Bi11 Russell competion You got jordan #1 and he played in a diluted era. “The league is so filtered and watered down. I don’t think anyone can beat us with our eyes closed. -“Dennis Rodman … smh lmao

[@daviddeleon443]

Good list. Don't like the bill Russell, Draymond green comparison. Draymond is a beneficiary of all time great time

[@Nootasaur]

So is Bill Russell… those Celtics teams were the most stacked teams in NBA history. Had multiple Hall of Famers, that team compared to the rest of their league is better than the KD Warriors compared to the rest of our league.

[@proshit707]

And bill Russell had no help huh?

[@tj5180]

Bill Russell was the main guy on the Celtics and some of those guys who are consider hofs wouldn’t be ones without bill Russell or considered as one

[@yvans.]

@@Nootasaur Those guys in Boston no named Bob Cousy and John Havlicek weren’t HOF talent Bill made them. Let me put it that way The Celtics organization was created in 1946 but started winning right when Russel came in 1957 and almost keep winning almost every year until his retirement (1969). After that they waited like 5 years (1975) to winning again. People like you don’t grasp Bill Russel defensive impact…

[@Nootasaur]

@@yvans. you clearly don’t know shit if you’re saying they weren’t HOF talent 💀 no compared to today’s league they are not HOF talent but back then, nearly all of them would be on that generational tier of players. Those Celtics teams were stacked and you can’t deny that, the most stacked teams in NBA history to be exact relevant to their era ofc. To say what you just said is like saying the KD led Warriors team is not a superteam.

[@user-bp8my9mw6y]

10 dwight 9 dikembe 8 Patrick Ewing 7 Moses 6 Robinson 5 Hakeem 4 shaq 3 bill 2 wilt 1 Jabar

[@delmccormack7001]

Hakeem and Kareem are reversed on my list. Shaq even said Hakeem was the best. Dpoy, scoring title, mvp, finals mvp all in same year. I saw it. Awesome.

[@cartdot]

Moses>Drob. Moses was a three time MVP and the best often I’ve rebounder of all time. He was also the best player on a championship team that had DR J on it. DRob was a one time mvp and only really contributed as the second best player on a championship team once. Moses was the best blazers on two finals teams and won one of them. Moses is the most underrated player in NBA History. Moses is also the last Center in NBA History to average 30 shaq drob and Embiid (Embiid was on pace this season before the injury) but none have actually done it since

[@LaBronny]

Way to early to have the joker on a list like this IMO, but will he end up in the top 10 for sure

[@jarrodfrazier4512]

Nah he’s already there tbh.. not like he’s gonna drop off so you can put him just from common sense lol

[@markgilbertjr413]

Who would you have above him and why :)

[@mike04574]

@@jarrodfrazier4512 hell no, not above dwight already

[@jarrodfrazier4512]

@@mike04574 he is lol much better.

[@jarrodfrazier4512]

We’ll much might be pushing it but he’s better

[@DerWahnwitzsinnige]

A non position top 10 would be very interesting, maybe feature 2 or 3 honorable mentions

[@krisreacts9216]

Bill Walton, Wes Unseld, Bill Russell, Kareem, Wilt, Shaq, and Robinson

[@Matt-un6lf]

🐐

[@jameslebron2834]

The fact that bill Walton isn’t on this list is comical

[@tj5180]

His prime was short

[@NumunuBeats]

Shaq is one of my favorite players ever but I watched Hakeem give Shaq the business in the 95 finals.

[@joshtellado8531]

You should do Top 10 future all stars/ superstars

[@Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie]

The only thing I would say is I might take Alonzo Mourning over Dwight and Jokic, but that’s just me And I might switch Moses and the Admiral

[@tj5180]

@Todd Lerfahndler Moses isn't really higher. He's fairly ranked as top 6th or 7th

[@thevoiceofreasoning4254]

morning over the joker are you kidding me

[@hepwo91222]

'Zo was awesome, but he was a bit undersized for a Center, I think he was 6'9"? He had a really good career, where Joker is just beginning. I would bet money Joker will end up with the better career, but I can agree it might be early to put Joker on a list where if he had a freak injury tomorrow and his career ended, he didn't quite do enough to be ranked among the greats yet.

[@glennrobinson.377]

@Todd Lerfahndler Alonzo Mourning- Top 2 in the MVP vote ( 1999 ). Alonzo Mourning- Top 3 in the MVP vote ( 2000 ). Alonzo Mourning was an MVP caliber player and faced very fierce competition. *vs Tim Duncan, Shaquille O"Neal, Kevin Garnett, Allen Iverson, Karl Malone, Jason Kidd, Chris Webber and Gary Payton.* Alonzo Mourning- 2x DPOY, 2x Nba Blocks Leader. Nikola Jokic has only two seasons in which he averaged over 20-Points per game. It"s too early to put him in the Top 10.

[@tj5180]

Alonzo was underrated but he had a short prime and lack of longevity

[@CRNFLAKEZ]

I aint gon lie bill russel would be a andre Drummond in todays league

[@immortal8447]

Facts

[@tj5180]

Nah.

[@elefantefresa1059]

he would be closer to AD

[@tj5180]

@@elefantefresa1059 hmm idk about that.

[@RamonIsHim]

Yeah and if Andre Drummond was actually a leader and liked winning he would be a top 5 center in the league

[@yeeeaaah6248]

One that should be top ten and is very underrated, he held his own against Russell, Wilt and Kareem, and again, very underrated, Nate Thurmond.

[@yigyountry]

jokic got a ring now 🎉

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

If anything Bill Russell is closer to Dwight Howard than draymond green come on bro do your homework

[@tj5180]

Looks like he didn't.

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

@@tj5180 Kareems teams were so stacked he should have won atleast 10 rings. Same for Shaq. But he didn’t penalize them even tho Kareem came into the league with 14 teams and still didn’t even win back to back titles until magic carried him in 87 and 88

[@RamonIsHim]

Yeah most lists have George Mikan at #9 so I think it’s fair to get him up outta here and replace him with Jokic.

[@hepwo91222]

I think a few more seasons Joker will be impossible to ignore, short of some disastrous injury, he is on his way, but might be premature to already put him in there until he plays this well for a bit longer.

[@YungMustard]

Don’t follow something cuz its the trendy thing to do bud

[@glennrobinson.377]

@@YungMustard Nikola Jokic has only 2 seasons in which he averaged over 20-points per game. It"s too early to put him in the Top 10. Dwight Howard and Alonzo Mourning >>>>>>> Nikola Jokic. Dwight Howard defeated Prime Lebron James in the 2009 ECF.

[@nodozhit]

Respect

[@joseHernandez-bw5mz]

You should do top 10 best head coaches of all time

[@ernieestrada193]

Pop Would be number one