Yuval Noah Harari Interview on 'Pozner'

[@odysseuspistachio]

Pozner is 85 actually, still has a mind like a steel trap.

[@Kronki01]

85?!!!! Are you sure? He looks fit

[@odysseuspistachio]

@@Kronki01 I'm pretty confident, sir. At least Wiki says so. I've watched a couple of interviews with him, he's also multilingual, drinks wine and plays tennis.

[@dennismeissel]

Dimi Sokolov well, I drink wine already, hopefully I will be like Pozner with my 85 🤪

[@ZMD8]

if you keep training your brain, keep learning, producing, reading, writing, being active in sports (he is playing tennis several hours a week :) ) there is no suprise, you can have that quality of a brain.

[@Agniya_M]

@@Kronki01 he is 87 now

[@АнастасияГорбунова-ц6ы]

Прекрасное интервью💜💜

[@Tam_Huynh]

great interview. I have watched more than 20, 30 videos of Harrari and still love watching more.

[@001yeayea]

Did he hack us 😂

[@Tam_Huynh]

haha. no he didnt. he is trying to guide us out of the hacking orgs or politicians :)))

[@Anorve]

same

[@dankokovacevic]

I watched 30-50 videos of Vladimir Pozner and I love that guy and still try to find and watch more!

[@Marideliful]

Me too! And this one was great!

[@LinhNgoc-oi1dg]

Whenever i see Yuval Noah Harari, i click.

[@ОльгаГорностаева-б8б]

Почему? Такое безоглядное доверие:)

[@ngandang96]

Hope more Vietnamese young ppl learn of his views

[@LeoVDove]

@@ОльгаГорностаева-б8б Безоглядное - я бы так не сказал. Он историк, большинство его аудитории нет, соответственно его мнение пользуется большим авторитетом. +Why the hell are you commenting here in russian? The interview is out there in russian already, go comment there.

[@LinhNgoc-oi1dg]

Leo V. Dove V He/She is probably acting out of his own free will, I guess. 🤣

[@ОльгаГорностаева-б8б]

@@LeoVDove , "какого чёрта?". Очень "вежливо". Вас так удивляет комментарий русского на его родном языке? Ну, да бог с этим:). Просто я не люблю фаст-фуд - исторический, философский и эзотерический... любой:). Желаю удачи.

[@winner9021]

I watched this interview in Russian, but it is great to watch it in original language. I've seen a lot of interview with Harari, but Pozner is the best interviewer and he always does his job excellent.

[@lailiishaqzai188]

I would love to see this interview in Russian, can you provide me the link?

[@ezefinkielman4672]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/maOVoGl7jMmkb6M

[@AudioPervert1]

Pathetic hoodwink and techno Hubris Yuval Noah Harari. A f&ck all vasal of the genocidal regime of Israel What a bunch of crap, which will never happen in reality...

[@Mitch4GP]

Nice socks. That look by Pozner at the camera at 9:50 when Harari said the KGB watching you. Priceless.

[@AudioPervert1]

Pathetic hoodwink and techno Hubris Yuval Noah Harari. A f&ck all vasal of the genocidal regime of Israel What a bunch of crap, which will never happen in reality... Eat Socks You COnsumer TUrd

[@xjz922]

WOW what a great interview. Posner what a legendary journalist leading the questions so smoothly making the entire video so incredibly mesmerizing.

[@pascalwilli6163]

Yes, I agree - it's Pozner who makes it a worthwhile interview !

[@AudioPervert1]

Pathetic hoodwink and techno Hubris Yuval Noah Harari. A f&ck all vasal of the genocidal regime of Israel What a bunch of crap, which will never happen in reality...

[@sydneymorey6059]

A privilege to listen. So many ideas. The intertwine of two great minds. KZbin is the greatest. Cheers SBM.

[@Chechat]

Интересно пересмотреть это интервью снова после нескольких лет.

[@alexchernyshev2748]

I watched it in Russian but it is a pleasure to rewatch it in English.

[@thaumiel8233]

Русские зашли в чат

[@greatfelino]

Grazie maestro yuval ti sono riconoscente del tuo lavoro

[@noidea91]

Two greatest minds of our time finally meet each other. And what we remember from their conversation? 34:15 I don't have a smartphone. My husband carries it for me.

[@crads7]

This is all we need to know about XXI century.

[@harutter-mkhitaryan4812]

Of course we should focus on it, it is a good advice to decrease the influence of phone on me.

[@timur_belyi]

Interesting conversation! Thank you!

[@PrithivirajSaminathan]

Pozner: could humans become a commodity ? Yuval : we are already a commodity !

[@randomdude7384]

Pozner is a KGB spy who comes from a country where humans have been a commodity for the last 100 years and still have no human rights.

[@ФилиппКравченко-п1э]

@@randomdude7384 He is just perfect journalist, that's it

[@randomdude7384]

@@ФилиппКравченко-п1э No he is not

[@ФилиппКравченко-п1э]

@@randomdude7384 Do you have some proofs, maybe?

[@filipebacelar766]

@@randomdude7384 Don t be so butt hurt

[@walidaddas]

Agree and share admiration, I wish I can be as alert when Im 85

[@Agniya_M]

He is 87

[@shenlaoshi7106]

I watched this video three times ! I like both of them!

[@luismiguelmarques6584]

Best interview they made to you.

[@Good.human.M]

Wow great interview pleasantly surprised with Pozners interest in Yuval ,for me they are two brilliant minds of our time ,what a pleasure hearing their thoughts , ideas and visions ....thank you for sharing

[@annasemizova4986]

My favourite interview ever) thank you!

[@ITERCYNTAI]

I wish I was sitting right next to the beautiful dog...I can listen to Mr. Harari for eternity

[@er1cparchomenko762]

12:14 "The best way to keep a prisoner from escaping is to make sure he never knows he is in prison" -- FYODOR DOSTOEVSKY

[@lukaszgd]

I am reading your first book and I encourage my partner to read. I like watching your interviews because your points of view are interesting. Greetings from Poland. Yes, the dog in the background is cute :)

[@laitheihtlei9306]

I read your books. Its changed my world views thanks you. ☺

[@teirahumaniora]

So much insights. I got addicted to listening to Yuval Noah Harari. I hope he is not hacking me.

[@Athenaikos]

Oh, man. This is outstanding stuff.

[@tacianomm]

One of the best interviews I ever watched!

[@dreambig8267]

When you meet with your creator what would say to him? Answer: you are an underachiever....... An interview that can change a lot of things about what is real and what is not!! Great job!!!

[@vt1370]

Great interview,,, thank you ,,,, love love love to the world❤️❤️❤️❤️ I love you my little 🌍

[@AnnaMishel]

People may become irrelevant for work, but they’re not irrelevant to their relatives or group. People will have to get their value from things other than work.

[@TheDionysianFields]

And their money?

[@АндрейЖарков-ч8ч]

- 90 years old Pozner: so let me back here to about what are talking right now - Yuval Noah Harari: FLEE WILL, FLEELY Besides that, outstanding, there both are the perfect match, the dialog, that you'd like to listen. My regards

[@RashidKapadia]

Excellent interview. Thank you. Yuval Noah Harari's clear thinking, clear explanations, and balanced mind is something we should all try and emulate.

[@amnayifolkin2354]

i agree withe you M Yuval thank you so much

[@Mzrati]

As always, I so appreciate the thoughts an ideas of Yuval Harari.

[@mirraavance9668]

Долгих лет жизни ВВ) Long life dear Mr. Posner) I wish you survive all the jerks)

[@ArturMsk1]

Pozner! What a great interviewer! Bravo 👏👏👏

[@AkA888]

What a great conversation. Thank you! I'm in the middle of the "21 lessons for the 21st century" that was bought few weeks ago in Siberia in Russian. Really like the perspective in the book - very much recommended!

[@sushil_kokil]

thank you

[@pushyamichilakapati6268]

clicked for Harari, stayed for the dog

[@McRyach]

The intellectual bomb @3:50. "...Certainly we make choices, we have desires. But when people talk about free will it means that they somehow chose their own desires..."

[@pds002]

I enjoyed this interview and found it intellectually stimulating. However, I did get the feeling, from time to time, that Pozner was fulfilling his own needs, curiosity, desires for answers rather than having he viewer in mind. This manifested itself in almost cutting off some answers because he seemed to have anticipated the whole response when only a fraction had been given, leaving the viewer, or perhaps just me, wanting more time for Noah Harari to expand on his thoughts.

[@zhanelyabaiduisen9008]

I felt the same. I thought it was only me

[@emileuwamahoro3820]

Thank you for your efforts on educating us on what really is going on in the world and about its future

[@alexandertumarkin5343]

Yuval, did you know that "my husband" was translated as "my partner" on moscovian TV?

[@harutter-mkhitaryan4812]

I think he does not give a shit.

[@rogerlephoque3704]

Yes, but only in the sense of the translation that President Carter enjoyed when he visited Poland in the late 1970s and had his speech to the Polish people upon arrival in Warsaw translated from "I am here in Poland to get to know you better," as "I wish to have carnal knowledge of the Polish people." [sic - hahaha]

[@matthewao]

@@harutter-mkhitaryan4812 😂

[@pavelt4104]

На российском, а не московском. Это раз. Во-вторых, В России в общей массе негативное отношение к ЛГБТ в целом и резко негативное к однополым бракам в частности. Этого ответа ты хотел, гордый шумер?

[@alexandertumarkin5343]

@@pavelt4104 Don't understand barbarian, sorry.

[@annalad1289]

Fantastic Interview !

[@ngandang96]

Thank so much Harari to keep uploading on your channel, I hope u maintain uploading interviews like this on YT till one day it reaches few millions subs, also on FB, social media is the biggest tool, and I hope u can bring your views and focus to make ppl think abt the way we will live in the future. I am from Vietnam and lots of ppl here love your book Sapiens its been very famous, I hope "Homo Deus" and "21 lessons of the 21st century soon" will be famous in my country soon thou 21 lessons have not been translated and am not sure it will be allowed for translation since there are some political subjects involved but I think it will be very mind-opening for young ppl in my country. I hope u share more on philosophy, psychology and meditation or the sources we can try the small personal stuff besides big discussions:)

[@richiesd1]

Nice apartment. I love it.

[@alexzimmermachado3898]

This guy is so intelligent, i cant believe

[@adambierzniewski7307]

Mr Pozner, you cannot live on Putin's support forever. Most of your websites have switched off comments because you are afraid of criticism.

[@user-zf2ru8eh3p]

Conversations I want to watch: With Elon Musk With Bill Gates With Jeff Bezos With Nassim Nicholas Taleb

[@BismillahArif]

Really looking forward to this

[@samt1705]

Joe Rogan too..

[@ajsbarter1]

Yes please esp Elon Musk

[@Valiantvamshi]

Imagine Round table discussion between yuval Noah Harrari, Robert Greene, Jordan Peterson, Slavoj zizek, sadhguru.

[@MrJihadkoplo]

@@samt1705 joe rogan is a little bit dull lately,....

[@deadmanwalking6342]

funky, Harari is eugenic gangster Klaus Schwabs poster boy!

[@GraemeHopkins]

Notice the body language of Harari during the last 10 questions... look away, eyes flickering, uneasy..this is not a man who is at peace with his own research, data and information! Great interview 'Pozner'!

[@khkh833]

Definitely 1:0 to Pozner. I find it very tiring to listen to Harari and I really don't see anything special in his rather chaotic thoughts. I find these ideas more scary rather than fascinating...

[@Mulnader]

2:37 Doggo had enough conversations about global view on human history and wants to leave

[@smogy001]

What a terrific talk! I absolutely adore what both Vladimir Pozner and you do, so i had a blast watching. I wish Vladimir had read all 3 books, so that the talk was more eye-to-eye.

[@alifarooqrajpoot]

This was such a great interview. Especially liked the ending question 💯🤩😂

[@Ludvik211]

Muy buena la entrevista. Very good.

[@edc7242]

Cute dog in the background trying to open the door

[@deeliciousplum]

I had missed that adorable pooch. Went back and found the dog waiting patiently to be let out. 🐶🌻

[@kosemekars]

Pozner is a great interviewer.

[@josephinewallis8693]

Thank you Yuval for choosing to say Humankind instead of Mankind. As a woman it sounds much better to me.

[@user-zf2ru8eh3p]

34:10 He doesn’t have a smartphone, so I decided I don’t have a smartphone from today.

[@shivam208]

Really...bt how u ignore technology.??..i think without smartphone u couldn't see yuval's interview....

[@rakvian]

@@shivam208 Just get a computer

[@rockjoe5346]

do you have smartphone now?

[@legojarjarbinks2564]

@@rakvian same thing,just a bigger screen dipshit

[@gulgunasutay2752]

Superstars together!!

[@victorkunst]

When I make a purchase choice, I realize that my analysis is not perfect, that I have limited information, and that I may be making a mistake when making a decision. At every moment of time, I have the opportunity to try to improve my solution, but sometime I decide to stop in this improvement. This moment is determined by my metaphysical free will. Trying to analyze the moment of making a decision in conditions of limited information is trying to analyze the entire experience of an individual.

[@richcampus]

..."... each of us ... a cell of awareness ... imperfect and incomplete ... genetic blends ... with uncertain ends ... on a fortune hunt thatsfar too fleet ..."...

[@yevgeniyayrapetov6512]

About animals and choices but how about a fact that alive creature realizes yourself in life not before 'birth' or not immediately after 'birth' but after a while-for human being it's about in 6 months after 'birth' and i remember a moment i first noticed myself in life and i was few months old at that moment and was standing in a crib and jumping and telling-'Gi-Go,Gi-Go'.But before that each alive creature behaves about the same and probably makes choices where available.-'GI-GO'!It can be talked as -'Go Away Carter'! Yes there is a fact that alive creatures function even before souls 'open' and this is 100% fact that can't be denied as each(each)was born and remembers same moment as me.

[@christinagens2538]

thankyou (a bit difficult to get enough volume on Yuval ... mike problem ?)

[@victortavares7455]

Harari makes me know better Brazil

[@visnjalivancic3953]

" you are underachiver " what a great answer, genius

[@terminaltom1662]

HIs books are best sellers because they appeal to half-witted yuppies who need everything explained to them in simple terms, and because he has the full backing and support of Klaus Schwab and the WEF. Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab approved this message. Remember that Harari has an "alternative" life style ( I won't go into more detail on that ) and lives in a communal environment in iz real

[@meirepereira1973]

Always perfect.

[@Samdekian]

Excellent interview! Although you didn't sad the third way that humans will evolve. What will be that last way?

[@v12v12v12v12]

Free Will ... Is Relative ... It Changes ... Accord To ... The Situation ... Of The ... Moment, Time

[@olegskokojevs4323]

loved your audiobook Sapiens, absolutely enjoyed Homo Deus. Now about to listen to 21 lessons of 21st century. I just cannot believe that someone born in 1976 managed to acquire such a wealth of information that supports rather radical opinions like yours, yet i cannot cannot argue against your statements as they are supported by experiments. Thank you for challenging my understanding of the world

[@eliasgounaris736]

Fascinating!!!

[@jakobmoll2428]

best podcast ever

[@ZMD8]

The doggie needed to leave urgently but he gave up and decided to listen.

[@Limposium]

"Grape is much more tastier than cucumber - everybody knows, even monkeys." -Yuval Noah Harari, 2019

[@yousef2508]

:))))

[@aleksey6811]

Я не знал что Познер так опустился и уже берет интервью у проходимцев очевидных

[@andyzephyr]

I disagree with their comment about Brexit being a step backwards. It is more of a dodge sideways so Britain can then progress in a more independent way, not constrained by the autocratic EU.

[@harripitkanen1953]

Brexit is not the best choice. It is not question of black and white things(not people:)). I think there is a better way to solve problems of EU. We must find the way do better globally.

[@andyzephyr]

@@harripitkanen1953 Perhaps, but the people were given a binary choice. Thats the way democracy works and 'the people' normally get it right on balance as it swings left and right. The EU doesn't champion democracy. But I agree with you that different countries do need to work together to solve any big world problem.

[@naradaian9196]

The people of these Islands have centuries of opposition to European Autocracy...its whats known as "a good thing". At a popular level people of Britain resisted European BS since Harold in 1066 & 'loyally' joined up to fight and die for the local autocracry....in WW 1.2. our grandparents and parents. imo The depth of that rootedness is involved in Brexit to this day ...

[@harripitkanen1953]

I understand history and different opinions. But still...I hope that everyone reads all Yuval Hararis 3 books.

[@ricardopontes7177]

Yuval was on point in regard to Bolsonaro. Today, 3/17/2021, the guy is clueless and a bit despaired, specially after the return of Lula.

[@mamashani1]

pozner is like I choose that cereal cus it taste better dude!

[@Peace-d6r]

Pozner thumbs up to this journalist

[@yaroslavlukianenko9339]

благодарствую תודה

[@t.v.k4048]

лучшие❤

[@vanka1982]

Ух-ты!

[@cogniterra]

Poor dog has given up on having its desire fulfilled.

[@alexanderhoye]

If Pozner is really not a Putin enabler like he always claims, he should find the courage to condemn this horrific war. Pozner’s silence on the matter is well noted.

[@Valiantvamshi]

Imagine a round-table discussions of yuval Noah Harrari, Robert Greene, Jordan Peterson, Slavoj zizek, sadhguru.

[@ageresequituresse]

The pan of Yuval on the right and Pozner on the left is difficult to deal with.

[@tilmanvogel2387]

Do they at any point mention the view of the free will as a relative thing? Like, absolute freedom may be unattainable, but you can still differ greatly in the degree of your freedom of will? (That's how I view it)

[@BobQuigley]

Madison avenue hacked humans through trial and error getting better over time. Equating how much junk we own with happiness. We are now drowning in the junk

[@shenlaoshi7106]

What a wonderful interview it is !

[@davidchipps]

BRILLIANT SPEAKER. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SPEACH AT YALE. I LIVE PERPETUALLY UNDER THE CLOUD OF HOLLYWOOD & FACEBOOK. THERE IS NO FREEDOM OF SPEACH IN THIS COUNTRY UNLESS YOU ARE ISRAELI. KRISTOF ARTICLE IN THE NEW YORK TIMES. I BELIEVE HE IS A RELATION OF JANE KRISTOF OF PORTLAND STATE UNIVERSITY.

[@gabrielleaviva]

It’s happening already.

[@ArielBerdugo]

very good excellent the answer balance

[@adambierzniewski7307]

One thing is certain - Mr Pozner is russian troll.

[@alekdemj]

Thanks for interesting talk. One thing that bother me Pozner has claimed he read all 3 books of Yuval Harari however has no clue what is algorithm (!), that is interesting because algoritm is one of key aspect in last 2 books of Harari.

[@sophiem419]

Well he only said he read only the first one at some point

[@garad123456]

the dog at around 2:30 was so still I thought its a stuffed dog and was wondering why on earth is there a stuffed dog

[@ngandang96]

Now I know a balanced mind is st very concrete😅 I guess sb like Yuval the things he feels most attached to are immaterial things:)

[@nolacombs2465]

I hope Posner does not give up on the russian-american relations because of the people that made bad choices and bad decisions the do not speak for the majority and the people that want World Peace and friendship between the countries. I have looked extensively at both sides of the situation and I can see definite reasons for the choices that Russia has made all along with its relationship with America. I can see throughout history mistakes that were made and choices that were made and ridiculous Notions that were presumed that led up to decisions causing division in the countries of Russia and America. With wonderful leaders in power I believe that Russia and America could set an amazing example for the rest of the world on diversity compromise and understanding setting the bar of what is and what is not acceptable in society for a healthy functioning planet. These lectures and q and A's get conversations rolling and moving and they spread to so many different people and can cause major structural changes in society for the better of countries and the world. It teaches people how to communicate and have different views and that does not make you wrong because there are a lot of ways to get to a destination not only one set in stone but yet you still reach the destination probably with a lot of different stories to tell each other but isn't that what life's all about. diversity and acceptance. Don't get me wrong there are some things that are just absolutely unacceptable and should in no way shape or form be allowed but you have to pick your battles on which ones are harmful and which ones are just cultural. I understand what he's talking about manipulating free will I watched a documentary on how they manipulate circumstances visual-effects music tones vibrations they study scientifically all of the effects on the human mind and how to Contour your decision that will best benefit the outcome of what they desire and they impose that on your surroundings when you enter into a different space or space at they control and you think you are acting on your own accord when actually you're being manipulated by different Visions smells sounds and all sorts of stimuli that Contour your train of thought into what they want you to direct your attention to or possibly purchase with your money or go along with an idea that they have or whatever their intentions. I know exactly what he's talking about it is psychological manipulation on the lines of gaslighting. It should actually be highly illegal. Basically this is exactly what the internet is doing with Google and Facebook Mark Zuckerberg and Twitter I believe are the three strongholds in collecting and using personal information data any things that they can gather on an individual and targeting them with all of the information that they have to profile them and manipulate or what they call personally advertising according to your interest and information. This is a very slippery slope. I have noticed like for instant on Facebook they have gotten very intimate with your personal data all of your pictures are available on Facebook so that you can choose what you want to share with your friends and family but Facebook actually has access to view those as well whether you share them or not. Also in messenger Facebook they can spy on all of your conversations and actually record and save anything that they want out of your entire history of communicating with any buddy that you have communicated with. There have been a lot of talk about how you can have a conversation and not much longer after your conversation something that you talked about in the conversation actually just materializes somewhere in your life a Tiger shows up on Twitter or it shows up on Facebook or it shows up on Google or just in your notifications. In America the Democratic party actually threatened the Republican Party that they were going to collect the information off of the internet and hunt the Republicans down and make them pay. They had even mentioned I believe it was AOC that said about re-education camps period and Kamala Harris talked about very boldly making the Republicans pay. And Joe Biden actually make anyone that disagree with their party and agreed with the Republican party label label them as domestic terrorist. I actually watched a man make a comment on social media that was against AOC and she was upset about it and sent the police and arrested the man for speaking out against a government official. They went to his house took him out of his house arrested him and took him to jail. I watched the footage. So what this man is talking about just as dangerous and deadly as Hitler's Germany. Look up Dr. Devara Davis excellent credentials and research information that needs to be shared on a critical alert level. She's associated with very high level educated professionals that have been doing research on the most important subject of our time. Okay that was a squirrel but worth checking out. This is a great video that you're doing on this subject, if you look into China they have a facial recognition and they have identifying equipment everywhere in certain parts of their country that are upper class upper crust. They follow you through all of your Affairs and every information there is possibly to collect about you and you actually get granted merits from your Society behaviors morality anything that you do can either give you merits or take away Merit move you up in society or move you down and Society you can actually be literally destroyed just because you had a bad day. You can look this up the information is out there. He's talking about changing DNA the fabric of Who You Are look up the Mederma vaccines by DARPA. For that matter just research DARPA I know they've taken down a lot of information because they don't want it out there but I was lucky to get some information before they pulled it on different things that they have been involved with and people they've been involved with and their role through history. They have a car that you can put your hand on a mechanism like where the console would be just a relaxed position where your hand would naturally go down on this mechanism and as soon as your hand touches the mechanism it responds to all of your body signals and you can literally drive the car with your thoughts, energy and vibrations that your body naturally puts out. I watched a minister of a church included on his sermon with the total description and program included because he was so deeply Disturbed by what he was having a hard time wrapping his mind around. They have already hooked up the human brain so you can totally run the entire program with your thoughts. Welcome to The Jetsons, we have arrived. Now I want judie's morning preparation for her day chamber that she goes in one side and comes out the other instantly dress with makeup and hair perfect and I'm sure that's not for fetch. Just because you can do something does not mean that you should. Just remember you cannot unring a bell.

[@David-Gerard]

Posner was the primary mouthpiece for the old Soviet Union.

[@_aponak4716]

He the truth.. He also predict war will happen in Ukraine ..He speech in Yale 6 year ago ..Look like nobody want to believe. He urge EU stop provoke Russia ..They want listen.. Last time from his insta he post..Nobody in west can guess what Putin can do.. Same too nobody want listen the keep provoke.. Few day ago His guess become reality ..Suddenly anybody care.. And forget what Nato Done done in the past ..Kill more civillian .. Face that..Karma .You do good in past good thing come in future..Do bad get bad karma in Future..No body can stop bad karma.. Even Nato

[@bradwalton3977]

"What would you tell God"? "You are an under-achiever." That is Woody Allen's line (see "Love and Death").

[@danieleriksen1130]

I've listened to or read both of these analyst's views. Both wonderful. But the discussion about 'free will' I find naieve, reductionist. The ancient understanding of, for instance, Eastern Orthodox Christian theology, based on experience not intellectual academic cogitation is in a different 'league' (for lack of a better term). There is Free Will on the deepest level. Read the Patristic literature of the last 2000 years and an alternate awareness emerges of the Person. Not a materialistic, mechanistic world view or experience. Very 'freeing'. An Eastern theologian said once, "where your science leaves off, theology begins". (be careful as to which 'theology' we follow, they are not equal) I have a funny feeling that decades from now, an older Yuval Harari will see this interview in a different light.