Yuval Noah Harari & Rutger Bregman: YES Online Conversations

Prof. Yuval Noah Harari speaks with author Rutger Bregman, in a moderated conversation by Zanny Minton Beddoes, editor-in-chief of The Economist.
This event is apart of a series of online conversations on global challenges and their implications for Ukraine, organized by the Yalta European Strategy (YES) and the Victor Pinchuk Foundation.

[@jeyre5996]

I could listen to Yuval for hours. There are so few people who look at the big picture and the connected parts in the way he does and can actually communicate those ideas in such an articulate and understandable way.

[@kativilaga]

Same here 😁

[@HermenegildoFaria]

How ridiculous!!! They speak like gods in the Olympus. They want to organize the Universe and They don’t are able to organize their own lifes.

[@pamelaammermann2543]

I totally agree.

[@danielbalgobin3115]

@@HermenegildoFaria do you even know a thing about their lives???? who are you to comment that

[@HermenegildoFaria]

​@@danielbalgobin3115 I know enough. I have more legitimacy to criticize their lives than them to criticize the all humankind. They are people living in their “orbitic” world, in their bubbles with their “orbitic” friends. They don’t know what is to be poor in the middle of the poor. They speak about climate change and they are amount, as persons, the biggest carbon contributors to the climate change.

[@LukeRobertMason]

Kudos to both Yuval and Rutger for working out how to deliver high-quality audio for virtual events. Always a joy to hear them both speak. Zanny is an incredible moderator!

[@HermenegildoFaria]

How ridiculous!!! They speak like gods in the Olympus. They want to organize the Universe and They don’t are able to organize their own lives

[@jitendradasloves-life5738]

I thought she was ok at the start and reallllly got going with her skillful moderation. At the onset, truthfully I think she could have come out with more of a quiet vibe

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

@@HermenegildoFaria are jou gonna keep repeating this to anybody that comments here?😉

[@alejomanz]

Excellent debate, leaves enough doubts and desire to find more information about many topics. For those who feel curious here is a list with some of the titles in the Yuval's library. -Maps of time - David Christian -Homo Deus - Yuval -The gene - siddhartha mukherjee -Blood Rites - Barbara Ehrenreich -The Sixth Extinction - Elizabeth Kolbert -Our Inner Ape - Frans de Waal -The Taste of Ashes - Marci Shore -The Last Whaler - Doug Bock Clark -I Am Malala - Malala Yousafzai , Christina Lamb -Mama's Last Hug - Frans de Waal -The Future Is History - Masha Gessen -War and Gender - Joshua S. Goldstein -Europe - Tim Flannery -The Ukrainian Night - Marci Shore -Humankind - Rutger Bregman -The Odyssey - Homer -AI Superpowers - Kai-Fu Lee -The Age of Surveillance Capitalism - Shoshana Zuboff -Congo - David Van Reybrouck -How to Change Your Mind - Michael Pollan Psd: I would love to see in the future book recommendations from Yuval. If you agree, vote for this comment so that the message reaches him. Have a good reading...and may all Beings be happy.

[@NguyenLe-sl1tr]

@Alejandro you're the hero we need but dont deserve,I have been watching his book shelf over a year, and you just gave me one more book name. Thanks

[@shakilaasghar7486]

I am Malala 😂😂😂😂😂

[@PetrosSyrak]

I think you can add Kahneman’s “Thinking Fast and Slow” to that list :)

[@lewreed1871]

I LOVE that you’ve done this. I’m always trying to see what books are on the shelves behind podcasters and people speaking from home! Thanks!

[@mira6010]

Thank you, thank you, thank you, my eyes are hurting from squinting already.

[@Iupiter98]

Mister Harari, i am patiently waiting for your next book.

[@samirould-ali7815]

What’s it going to be about? I wonder 💭 😊

[@HermenegildoFaria]

How ridiculous!!! They speak like gods in the Olympus. They want to organize the Universe and They don’t are able to organize their own lives

[@samirould-ali7815]

@@HermenegildoFaria Sounds like someone is not organising his world! It’s about point of view- exchange not of the ONE truth dictated by anyone! I am totally glad to have clever people like Yuval and company openly discuss their thoughts and conclusions! Btw hope you are not a troll!

[@HermenegildoFaria]

@@samirould-ali7815 I'm not a troll. Think a little... They talk like beeing out of the world... I would like to see them solving little problems with real people and talk less about to solve the problems of the universe. When you speak about the big picture every theory works. We verify a theory on its capacity of solving little problems not on explaining the all history of humankind

[@samirould-ali7815]

@@HermenegildoFaria hey 👋🏼 there! Ok may I tell you why I really like Yuval? I really appreciate the way he looks at our civilization with a very accurate look especially the Middle Ages to now! He is a very gifted historian with a knife sharp intellect....I really enjoy his views on how we (as apes) are developing! Also Look and Listen that he is NEVER saying it Will Definitely go this or that way...he points out...he is just saying in REGARDS of the past...this or that SEEMS to play out like that. I know that there are parts of the world to whom it may just sound totally idiotic what he is saying and where the world is heading....but from my European experience he makes a very good point! There is enough to go around for everyone! Hopefully 🙏 we will not Fuck it up like always! Sorry I didn’t wanted to be annoying to you!

[@Mary-Petra]

Please watch minute 30 to minute 33. Great point made here. "Where is the problem?" - "... the dark side of friendliness ... we are incredibly groupish... we just wanna be liked ... we're often on the wrong side of history and thinking we're just helping our friends"

[@HermenegildoFaria]

How ridiculous!!! They speak like gods in the Olympus. They want to organize the Universe and They don’t are able to organize their own lives

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

@@HermenegildoFaria are you gonna keep repeating this to anybody that comments here?

[@annecook4067]

@@HermenegildoFaria your eyes are open

[@HermenegildoFaria]

@@annecook4067 Wide open

[@samjoshi1812]

@@HermenegildoFaria so noone is allowed to engage in intellectual discussion?

[@experiencescotlanddifferen4910]

Why do we always look for disagreements??? It seems to be very difficult to agree on anything. So that is what we should be looking for!!!

[@ReynaSingh]

Yuval is one of the greatest minds of our generation. these videos are a gift to humanity 🙏

[@HermenegildoFaria]

How ridiculous!!! They speak like gods in the Olympus. They want to organize the Universe and They don’t are able to organize their own lives

[@CagdasTN]

Faria go and watch cat videos or something man!

[@HermenegildoFaria]

@@CagdasTN I wish you the same

[@jaysonneel]

A healthy intellectual dose. Grateful to the two great minds and the wondeful lady moderator. Thank you!

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

@@HermenegildoFaria are you gonna keep repeating this to anybody that comments here?

[@aliciam5282]

I’m sort of obsessed with trying to read all the book titles in the background rn.

[@emptyhighways]

I don't know about Bregman, but Harari has an excellent list of book recommendations online.

[@SuperLewisRoberts]

Yuval's clarity of mind is amazing.

[@kodurivenkatanarayana5929]

And Yuval is a guy you can always listen to - so unassuming but profound and clear with soothing voice.

[@peterpan8147]

I love him so much, and his books. Wonderful and most important. But his voice isn't soothing ... 😆

[@truthaboveall7988]

He is mesmerising it’s clearly the hours of meditation 🧘🏻‍♂️ shining thru

[@truthaboveall7988]

@@peterpan8147 I LOVE his voice & accent

[@DD-pd8ci]

Thanks Prof. Harari! Your thoughts makes my mind clearer! I hope to read you again very soon! In italian or other, no problem!

[@HermenegildoFaria]

How ridiculous!!! They speak like gods in the Olympus. They want to organize the Universe and They don’t are able to organize their own lives

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

@@HermenegildoFaria are you gonna keep repeating this to anybody that comments here?😁

[@nyamsurenganbileg1587]

Yuval Noah Harari is one of greatest mind in the world now, I think

[@Gfd-vy5ko]

Why? Why he better rutger bregman?

[@cinikcynic3087]

@@Gfd-vy5ko People take sides naturally. You are right, nobody is ‘better’ than another person but their arguments can seem to be more valid to a wider audience. For the same reason that more people visit Paris than Kabul. Paris just ‘speaks’ to more people. So Yuval speaks to more.

[@HermenegildoFaria]

How ridiculous!!! They speak like gods in the Olympus. They want to organize the Universe and They don’t are able to organize their own lives

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

@@HermenegildoFaria are you gonna keep repeating this to anybody that comments here?😂

[@faustinreeder1075]

He’s a creepy dude. He wants to kill 8 billion of us.

[@Vapour85]

Was riveted like this was some Game of Thrones finale. Blown away by the brilliance and respect on both sides and masterful moderation in the middle.

[@yoriokuda4792]

Thank you. I enjoyed this program. Very stimulating.

[@HermenegildoFaria]

How ridiculous!!! They speak like gods in the Olympus. They want to organize the Universe and They don’t are able to organize their own lives

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

@@HermenegildoFaria are you gonna keep repeating this to anybody that comments here?

[@Lucilewoodward]

Amazing conversation thank you for rising the level of KZbin contents. More of this please !

[@aperson2730]

When Yuval speaks it feels like I have all the time in the world to listen

[@peterdemuth]

I was waiting for this conversation since I have read Yuvals books and then Rutgers Humankind. Thank you 🙏

[@alexnogueira9874]

Mister Harari. I love hear you.

[@HermenegildoFaria]

How ridiculous!!! They speak like gods in the Olympus. They want to organize the Universe and They don’t are able to organize their own lives

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

@@HermenegildoFaria are you gonna keep repeating this to anybody that comments here?

[@Hyttfors]

“Survival of the friendliest” Thank you both for clarity and inspiration👏🏼

[@niceguy6831]

@Pablo Abedul exactly that's what it is. Survival of the cunning and the exploiters.

[@christinearmington]

Survival of the ruthless.

[@kuwapa]

Indeed but what if we're on the cusp of the 'revival of the unfittest?' Granted we are in a moment of great reckoning and division now, but is is what I think is happening with a shift in understanding being brought about out of necessity and with the information explosion available to all. History is changing its course as conciousness catches up to the unconscious forces at work living society to present day.

[@HermenegildoFaria]

How ridiculous!!! They speak like gods in the Olympus. They want to organize the Universe and They don’t are able to organize their own lives

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

@@HermenegildoFaria are you gonna keep repeating this to anybody that comments here?🤪

[@gureswar4270]

Yuval! Great intellectual of present time.

[@HermenegildoFaria]

How ridiculous!!! They speak like gods in the Olympus. They want to organize the Universe and They don’t are able to organize their own lives

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

@@HermenegildoFaria are you gonna keep repeating this to anybody that comments here?

[@v12v12v12v12]

Greatest Exposition By Professor Yuval By Far

[@pamelaammermann2543]

Both views are fantastic.

[@chindi17]

Dr. Harari when is your next book? I love them and has learned a lot. Read them and have them on audio as well.

[@aquilinaism]

Thank you Zanny. Hard to add value with these two but you did it gracefully! I subscribe to Yuval's take but remain hopeful Rutger is right. That to me is human kind.

[@rajeshoza8899]

Yuval confident and specific as always.

[@HermenegildoFaria]

How ridiculous!!! They speak like gods in the Olympus. They want to organize the Universe and They don’t are able to organize their own lives

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

@@HermenegildoFaria are you gonna keep repeating this to anybody that comments here?

[@tomigrgicevic]

Great! BRAVO!! Harari, so inspiring!

[@msscrazybuthappy]

Thank you for this extraordinary conversation

[@RussianLanguagePodcast]

Great interviewer and brilliant guests.

[@Justin-ry4qn]

Fantastic discussion! Thanks for uploading

[@midoann]

Never seen such a skillful moderator like her. Trump and Biden debate could have other result with Zanny

[@Baa072]

My 2 homeboys in one talk.. im excited!

[@HermenegildoFaria]

How ridiculous!!! They speak like gods in the Olympus. They want to organize the Universe and They don’t are able to organize their own lives

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

@@HermenegildoFaria are you gonna keep repeating this to anybody that comments here?

[@cremasca]

Yuval for President !!! ❤️👍❤️

[@HermenegildoFaria]

How ridiculous!!! They speak like gods in the Olympus. They want to organize the Universe and They don’t are able to organize their own lives

[@jitendradasloves-life5738]

Yuval Harari is a meditating genius prophet saint gay king master wizard, and I fucking love him ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ he should be made king of the planet 👍🏻🙌🏻🤩

[@leofrancovich3892]

gay king master wizard hahahah

[@ceased2care]

Unfortunately, that's been his plan for your thoughts about him all along. He's a charming well informed manipulator. Your future is not his to dictate.

[@DideKaraali]

Sincerely appreciated

[@amadeoorellana6863]

Wonderful!!! the laughter of both in the last minute lifts me up too!

[@seshadrisubramanian]

A lesson on How to moderate and get the best out two brilliant minds.Way to go Zanny!

[@DreadPitt]

What Yuval said about people being very rational and believing stories at the same time, actually perfectly unifies Rutger and Yuval's thinking. Believing in Rutger's hopeful story about humandkind can go hand in hand with realistic, rational thinking. Now, let's hope people will actually do that.

[@Leo-wk8eu]

Excelente. Que bueno escucharlos. Saludos desde Colombia.

[@cngreen2950]

Thank you very much!

[@aswewill]

Excellent forum for two current & progressive intellects of our time. Because such discussions have lasting pertinence but also a specific historical context, please ALWAYS INCLUDE THE DATE of the original talk/broadcast somewhere in the details/notes for the program/talk. Many thoughtful points were made, but I particularly appreciated the distinction between Optimism and Hope, in that Hope generally suggests more individual activism versus the more background or collective scope of Optimism. Modern humans have the intelligence & technology to communicate/discuss, develop & create/implement social systems that will enhance human lives & develop/harness even greater human potential, but only through broader consensus building, collaboration, and collective commitment/action built around maximum participation/buy-in of the individual citizens of the world.

[@RichardMay1]

Harari is brilliant. We all create our own fictions.

[@sandraproctor854]

So, is it fiction that Harati is brilliant?

[@RashidKapadia]

Excellent _and very important_ conversation. Thanks for organizing and sharing these events.

[@ragnarderagnarok2754]

Yuval Harari is a genius.

[@HermenegildoFaria]

How ridiculous!!! They speak like gods in the Olympus. They want to organize the Universe and They don’t are able to organize their own lives

[@janetjohnson1908]

Your standards must be very low.

[@HermenegildoFaria]

​@@janetjohnson1908 As high as holiness. I think it's the highest, but it's a gift, not a conquest or a pretension. I’m not an “Yuvalater” or any “humanlater”

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

@@HermenegildoFaria are you gonna keep repeating this to anybody that comments here?🙃

[@Petramchannel]

Thanks for this video

[@erikzurcher5528]

Brilliant conversation. Thank you all, Zanny, Rutger and Yuval.

[@joshpinchuk7061]

A pleasant surprise to see Uncle Viktor give the opening remarks for this.

[@lsipahelut]

I can listen to her voice for hours and hours on end...

[@ginawang2692]

Yuval, I love you. Thanks for all your books. I bought them all in English and in Chinese for my kids. The last one, the graphic one also. Keep going! I am with you all the way.

[@LuEmanuel]

What is the problem? For me, the problem is our essential vulnerability and insecurity as individuals. Fear in all its forms and permutations makes us do incredibly stupid and cruel things. The fear of being alone and even more vulnerable than we would be were we with our tribe or group brings us to sublimate our sense of what is fair and just to the press of the group. The answer is simple, but never easy. We must each face our fears, every time they come up in us, and learn to bring courage into our everyday lives. In this way, we can at the very least face what needs to be faced and do what needs to be done in the moment.

[@rajeshoza8899]

Yuval has studied & relates human nature & mind so well right from it’s evolution. Perfectly. Just like a scientist derives mathematical equation & formula.👌👌

[@HermenegildoFaria]

How ridiculous!!! They speak like gods in the Olympus. They want to organize the Universe and They don’t are able to organize their own lives

[@c.brughuis3518]

Mr. Hararri, we admire and appreciate your work a lot, you are without doubt one of the greatest achievers of our time but when it comes to science or vaccination you don't mention the negative aspects of it but just the posetive ones.. Today everything has turned to business and very profite oriented, untrustworthy.. One question, what do you think about the pharma lobbying and the big businesses the doctors are making with vaccination while the poor nursing staff and other less fortunate people are working so hard just to meet their basic needs? Here in Germany doctors are just making more money out of the crises like never before .. I thought being a doctor demands a lot of responsibility and ethical behavior. .Another question in terms of climate change, why don't the rich just stop flying for fun or shopping with their private jets all over the world , or reduce the lavish lifestyle they are living by? , or does it just apply to the average consumer ? 🙏

[@paulzendo6079]

Überhaupt kein Grund den angeblichen " brilliant mind " Harari in den Himmel zu loben. Er spricht von " useless people " und anderem menschenverachtenden Müll , infolge der Tatsache von Obamas + Schwabs Einflüsterer- Status .

[@glennhynes5263]

You are correct, except the part about him being a great thinker. He suggests that we have no freewill, while choosing words and language to convey a message corresponding with, what he sees as reality. How can he do that if he has no free will? Why does his message matter if I have no freewill to hear it and modulate my behavior as a result? He is a fool pretending to be a scholar. If we all have no freewill, how does he question a person's response to the manufactured virus/covid crisis. harari is an antchrist, you will see.

[@jerrylion45]

Yuval you got a right worldview

[@v12v12v12v12]

The Economist Zanni ... Superb Zoom InterAction

[@Tudorlady5]

Completely energizing and rivetting conversation. Thank you

[@emeliekgarriau5542]

Mr Yuval Noah Harari and Mr Rutger Bergman, I would absolutely love your views on the latest work of Riane Eisler, "Nurturing Our Humanity". The social scale of domination versus partnership societies clarefies so much on the crises we live in today.

[@HermenegildoFaria]

How ridiculous!!! They speak like gods in the Olympus. They want to organize the Universe and They don’t are able to organize their own lives

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

@@HermenegildoFaria are you gonna keep repeating this to anybody that comments here?

[@justdoit2377]

Thank you

[@lizgichora6472]

Thank you.

[@robertogross1865]

Very nice. Love it!! Brazil

[@JohnWilliams-fc3xi]

To me the moderator is confusing being a realist with being a pessimist. Thanks for sharing this.

[@gjohn411]

Getting my doctoral students in leadership development to watch this and related it to their understanding of regenerative thinking. Fantastic discussion!

[@stepantulchynsky9123]

Thanks for such an intellectual treat. Keep inviting the best world's minds to Ukrainian platforms.

[@paulocoelho558]

These conversations always make me think in unexpected ways! What is really good and I want to share my thoughts :) What I think the lesson to be learned with the pandemic is that if we are able to collaborate in large numbers as a species, we have to be able to develop better and faster collaboration frameworks for our human society to be able to overcome real problems more efficiently and not only to drive forward in lucrative technological advancements, it doesn't matter if for covid-19 or the climate change, because what I observe daily is that society has advanced knowledge to overcome problems but is not flexible enough in mass scale specially to implement the solutions because of inappropriate policies, obsolete structures and dystopian ideologies.... it's amazing that our smartness is being always misplaced and not for the common good is like a layer of our completeness as an human specie is missing and I think that is the fundamental issue that has to change.

[@oberglath]

do you have a list of the books on the shelf behind him? I want to read all of them

[@moveoninlife]

Love Zanny and Yuval. Rutger is sort of getting there, good guy!

[@HermenegildoFaria]

How ridiculous!!! They speak like gods in the Olympus. They want to organize the Universe and They don’t are able to organize their own lives

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

@@HermenegildoFaria are you gonna keep repeating this to anybody that comments here?

[@Celebrity-speakersDe]

Great talk!

[@SB-bf3no]

My simple solution is humans should stop manipulating nature and start living in harmony with nature. Worship the mother nature. This change of mindset will help flourish the lives of humankind.

[@bekindbethoughtful4640]

Great moderator.

[@mablekhami7321]

Thanks 🙏

[@alexanderherbertkurz]

This is pretty good, I am only at 9:05, but in just a handful of sentences each, they already set up an interesting duel: friendliness vs story telling. I am curious how it will go on.

[@sudiprabha8704]

Incredibly challenging discussion

[@giselotte1790]

Fight, flight, freeze? No, we will do it in a way of kindness & cooperation. Love & empathie is the answer ♡. I agee both of them.

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

Love is the message, and message is love! 😇🥰

[@monica1233663]

I think they both made very interesting points in the end: we need both to change ourselves in the way we see each others as human beings, and also to gain some global control (through cooperation) of the way technology evolves.

[@nancymohass4891]

I have subscribed but why I did not see any access link or invitation for the live program to participate ?

[@fabreurio1]

You can tell right away from Rutger's line of thought the insidious ways structural privilege works: when you're lucky enough to be born in a long established, solid, social welfare democracy (The Netherlands) It can really bias your view on society. His work would hugely benefit if he were to spend a few years away from the First World or study Fanon or Mbembe with attention.

[@lordbunbury]

It also shows, in a very practical way, that humans are capable of creating these societies. Societies where people work together and thrive. The Netherlands and other western European countries being examples of this.

[@JohannesObers]

he is just trying to ride the wave of success keeping himself aflot in populist superficial talking points... his ideas are nothing more than talking points, not real analysis...

[@ricardopontes7177]

@@lordbunbury cringe honestly 😬 these societies exist on the basis of others being overlooked (on purpose), it serves these small easily manageable european countries so well, they have the right number of people, the right climate and right conditions from the get go + years of exploration and exploitation of other peoples = privilege in the division of labour and resources in this wretched assymetrical world. Europe like to play the stoic type, it is actually the most freeloader and opportunistic bloc on this earth by far. I trust more an american or russian than a french/german/dutch.

[@lordbunbury]

@@ricardopontes7177 I agree that it is all based on exploitation. I don’t see how the US and Russia aren’t more exploitative though. Europe does fare well under the wings of the aggression of the US and Russia. They don’t have to start wars themselves if the US and Russia do it for them. That said. These are also the societies that brought innovation on all kinds of fronts. This means that at least we have a shot as a species to get more peaceful. Of course these societies aren’t perfect at all, but they do serve as models for the world as a starting point. Showing that humans are capable of moving in the right direction. A direction of a world full of safety, health, longevity and innovating together. I believe humans are capable of this. That the possibility is there. Sidenote: using the word “cringe” is ironically the most cringe thing someone can do.

[@junavaes1542]

@@JohannesObers Did youread his book?

[@NicholBrummer]

I'd like to hear from Rutger and Yuval what they say about the relevance of Nasim Taleb's 'Skin in the Game' or 'Antifragile'. Rutger says nice equilibria are possible, but Rutger and Yuval agree this is not automatic, and really bad ones exist. Taleb puts emphasis on the fact that only one catastrophy is enough for an end, which demands some antifragile strategy for humanity to avoid disaster. A long 'nice' situation may lead via complacency to a bad one. And we are living through risky times.

[@musicspinner]

We want Yang, #MATH

[@MoStip]

The conditions of air, water and soil should be better, so that whatever kind of pathogen will not effect the vulnerables that bad ...

[@sarahgartner253]

Its our oneness that brings us together. The innate importance of each of us and all of us. We have a call to evolve - to bring about our better nature. The depths of us, that is slowly coming into general awareness

[@luciasignorini7397]

Thank you for this debate, very interesting... The thing I'm stuck on is that, it's not about "right" or "wrong", or "good or bad"... it's more about entitlement, greediness, empathy, convenience, selflessness, shrewdness, values, principles and the ego... and pessimism and positivity vary according to one's upbringing. For example, I grew up in Venezuela where I've experienced a very corrupt government, developed countries exploit the country only for its natural resources. Taking for the country... But it's only due to my experiences of having travelled and observing different ways of doing things is that I have been able to come to my own conclusions as to what is "good/bad".

[@roxy2812]

Huge respect for both but team Bregman! :)

[@yoriokuda4792]

Tuvalu, I have been rereading your books again. As a Rotarian, I am trying to convince Rotarians to establish RIPA(Rotary International Peace Academy). There are military academies in the U.S. but none exist for the peace academy. Your thought please.

[@christinearmington]

Hi Yori. I appreciate your comment. My father was a committed Rotarian and I got to attend meeting with him a few times. He was also dedicated to world peace, not as a cliche, but as an actual goal. He was President of People to People International when he died. On his deathbed he told his doctors that he would be giving a speech in Hong Kong in six weeks which would be translated into many languages. People to People was established by US President Eisenhower for intellectual and cultural exchange between countries. I’m not certain of its current state, but you may find a framework there without having to reinvent the wheel. He traveled all around the world from China to Romania to Jamaica visiting with other judges and lawyers. But I’m sure many categories of exchange were made: businessmen, bankers, artists, etc. I think you’ll find it to be of interest.

[@healthilysceptical4501]

The "moderator" clearly didn't want the discussion to be done in a moderate way, she repeatedly tried for a "battle of the minds", illustrating Bregman's point about the negative influence of the media which focuses on bad news, its motto is "If it bleeds it leads". This constantly reinforces the negative view of human nature which Bregman is trying to show is mistaken. Despite her, the two gave a good example of a shared interest being discussed in a nuanced, informed, moderate way.

[@bluecloud3004]

Hoping that Prof. Harari gets paired with someone of his weight class in future debates.

[@firmi_2119]

I'm also what you could consider a Yuval stan, but Rutger Bregman is up there with him. They're both amazing.

[@aperson2730]

I find it a bit irritating the way the moderator is frequently framing Yuval's comments as being gloomy. This is a mature conversation between adults about profound matters it's not a Disney movie.

[@DavidOkwii]

To keep this in perspective, the internet was shutdown in Uganda this Jan for 5 days and extended for another month for a partial lockdown. The threat of Tech feels remote to me for authoritarian regimes that can simply shut it down and head back to the stone age.

[@elysium619]

Yuval:1 Rutger:0 Quite the mismatch. Given the aggregate of the exponential increase of existential threats we collectively face as a species, I'm going with Oscar Wilde: "The basis of optimism is sheer terror." The threats are time sensitive and we are far too late. We don't need hope. We need courage. Courage to face what's coming. Twenty years to REVERSE carbon emissions so that civilization as we know it will survive in a recognizable form by 2200. With the unbridled profit incentive (capitalism) at stake? Guess who wins? Courage, my friends, courage.

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

Good logic my friend

[@dottedrhino]

Verbal "pessimism" is the identification of (potential) problems so they can be solved. ;)

[@donaantoniamomm7749]

Wow. Incredible minds!

[@Diving_Serenity]

I really enjoyed the conversation and the gentle arguments that had been developed but sometimes i trully miss a Christopher Hitchens aggressive debate. How articulate was he??

[@angelop.s649]

They all need to show off their books 📚🤓

[@George-zh1og]

I am a fan of Harari, yet he has 308k subscribers and PewDiePie has 109 million subscribers...What does Harari think about this? What does this tell us about our society?

[@kaynwe1979]

I think this conference or conversation should have more directed towards the discussions of third world countries as when Yuval mentioned a little bit in universal basic income topic.

[@qasimqamar4996]

I have become your hardline fan after finishing your book, ' Sapines- A Brief History of Humankind' By the way Iam an ex Muslim and now a firm believer in Evolution

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

Welcome to the darkside! 😁 respect for the transition you went true.

[@NaborAlejandro]

Wow... First time I know about an ex Muslim!

[@qasimqamar4996]

@@The.world.has.gone.crazy... Allowing beating of your wife; Gog Magogs trapped somewhere between two mountains; seven heavens; flying carpet of solomon; flying horse of Muhammad; allowing marriage of pre-pubscent girls as described in Surah Talaq verse 4, Allah holding sky without pillars and dozens of other verses that make no sense--- do you see them as enlightenment dude?😁😁😁👍hats off to your insight.

[@qasimqamar4996]

@@NaborAlejandro There are dozens whom I know personally.People are leaving Islam in huge numbers but they cannot come out openly in Islamic countries due to legislation against them.

[@NaborAlejandro]

@@qasimqamar4996 interesting to know. Best wishes to you and all of them. We hope that with reason, a good perspective, and more open minded ppl, laws stop one day to cause this sort of problems.

[@jinoc2178]

"hopefulness" aside. i can sense a bit of egotism on the left side of the video. insightful exchange nonetheless. also Yuval crushed it.

[@emeliekgarriau5542]

Very good points here! The questions around large scale societies are powerful, please also look up the works of Riane Eisler. The domination versus partnership scale provides a universal frame. Partnership shows practical pathways for a better future. The four cornerstones build that possible future (1 Family & Social Structure, 2 Gender Roles & Relations, 3 Economic & Social Relations, and 4 Narratives & Language)

[@HermenegildoFaria]

How ridiculous!!! They speak like gods in the Olympus. They want to organize the Universe and They don’t are able to organize their own lives

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

@@HermenegildoFaria are you gonna keep repeating this to anybody that comments here?

[@vaibhavgupta20]

What is with books in background?

[@badgerlife9541]

What's wrong with the books? These people are authors and historians. They've read hundreds of books. It's literally their job.

[@renoesmaeilian9489]

Wow, that question! People read . I read . And we read a lot. It’s very common to have multiple book. Hundreds.

[@earthgirl8917]

Yuval: Imagine the internet in your country is down; everything is down, nothing works, all the money is gone... Me: Yes, hackers, crack this zombie monetary system so everyone wakes up to the matrix slavery they've been living through.

[@quamrulsiddiqui4225]

For justice please do just one thing stopping money laundering from poor countries to rich countries. Even no need to change the ownership.

[@flavioquembo861]

We definitely need Global institutions as a response to relationships and businesses that have become globalized without the proper institutions to regulate human relationships. ECOCRACY is the alternative to DEMOCRACY, the only form of government capable of guiding human relations in a globalized world.

[@felixowusu4983]

Thank you professors a very stunning discussion