Z-Transform - Practical Applications - Phil's Lab #27

[@Retinatronics]

Hi Phil, Just want to thank you for this video. Content like this ( theory with real-life application) is really rare.

[@PhilsLab]

Thank you so much, very glad to hear that - more of these kind of videos to come! :)

[@ligius3]

Wow, I wish I had your videos when I was studying these topics, many years ago. We were just mindlessly applying the formulas with only the slightest idea about real-world applications. Your videos connect the dots now, so I can see why the curricula was structured like this.

[@PhilsLab]

Thank you so much! I had the same experience at university and am trying to 'remedy' that a bit with these videos,

[@velvetsound]

I have read several books on DSP now and this is the first time I really really grok’d the Z Transform. I’m a softwares developer, and so seeing the practical application in code and your clear explanations bridges the gap in the theoretical math that every other KZbin channel bombards us with. Thank you so much fir this series. My goal is to build DSP based guitar effects pedals with an STM32F7.

[@eShrut]

Either our brain was too small at the time of engineering or our professor were not that great. This opened my brain and put z-transform into it so easily that I will never forget it. I guess this technique (real life example) is so simple if our teachers can use it in class, none of the student will fail in math.

[@PhilsLab]

Thank you very much, I'm glad to here this has made the topic a bit more accessible!

[@deebo7276]

Others have mentioned this already, but just wanted to chime in that I love to follow these kinds of theory -> application videos. Thanks!

[@PhilsLab]

Thank you very much, more of this kinda stuff to come!

[@jeffberwick]

This is excellent! Long ago when I was in school, I asked my professor teaching discrete time systems if we could have real world examples, and he said he wished that was possible, but it wasn't practical. It would have made all the difference in my enthusiasm for the subject!

[@firesup77]

As a computer engineering undergrad, your videos are seriously life savers! From embedded software to hardware to signals and more, I have never finished one of your videos feeling dissatisfied. Do you mind going over some other interesting filters or application of concepts? I’m specifically thinking of Kalman filters, particle filters, PID control, and H infinity control!

[@213pool]

A course in one video ! Many thanks for sharing your knowledge

[@hydropage2855]

I would’ve enjoyed it more if you extended this and took ADC input to plug into the filter input and compare the input and output

[@sir7586]

It's been nearly 20 years ago when we studied z-transforms in Uni. And now I finally got it:)

[@PhilsLab]

Awesome, glad to hear that!

[@BM-jy6cb]

Another fantastic video. You're dead right about the method of teaching in universities - certainly in my time (now 35 years ago!), they'd just move on to the next item in the syllabus and dive straight into the maths leaving you with no appreciation of what real-world problem you were actually trying to solve - and, of course, there was no www or KZbin back then and trips to the library didn't really help either. If I'd had videos like this, I would have had that essential higher level understanding before diving into the maths and would have learned a lot more. Don't know if this has changed since I was at uni - maybe someone with more recent experience could comment.

[@V_baddict]

It's still the same mostly. I graduated in 2016. Signal and Systems was the one of the hardest class for me back in college because it was very math heavy. But, it definitely didn't have to be that way. Elon Musk said it best. Schools teach us a whole lot about the different tools available to solve problems, but they rarely teach you why you need these tools and how they can help solve practical problems. It's honestly a shame given the amount of dollars students and parents have to ditch out for a college degree. Kudos to folks like Phil, who are making these extremely useful concepts more appreciated and easier to understand.

[@PhilsLab]

Thank you! Yeah, I graduated in 2019 and had the same experience at uni, a lot of theory with little practical application. Glad there's the internet, inexpensive and readily-accessible electronics these days!

[@drodrii]

Phil, this is beyond excellent. You sir, are in fact the GOAT 🐐

[@PhilsLab]

Thank you very much, David!

[@GiovaniCauzzi]

Amazing to see how to use this knowledge in real applications! Thank you so much!

[@chris_lynch]

Thank you for the video, very clearly explained. Id love to see a series of videos on the z transform and pid controllers, showing the same stability, freq response and bode plot. Thanks

[@PlsDontSuuue]

Phil, your content is utterly incredible, I feel like I'm getting a PhD just by watching your videos!

[@PhilsLab]

Thank you so much, Raul!

[@sanketpatadiya8168]

Kudos!! Superb explanation!! Why Universities don't teach us like this🤷🏼‍♂️??

[@vex123]

Excellent content. Thanks for sharing. Would very much love to see some of these discrete applications for controls applications! That will be very interesting especially if you can see a physical systems become unstable.

[@nrdesign1991]

Thanks a lot for the video! Indeed the Z transform was extremely theoretical in university, always feeling locked to the given tasks. It REALLY helps to take a look back at one's own pace, not being forced to learn it for an exam. Also I much prefer Altium over KiCAD. It just has so many usability tricks ups its sleeve.

[@euglossine_tristanwhitehill]

Wanted to put some love on this video for helping me click some of this stuff I’ve been studying, was def over thinking it

[@prabhuns1791]

Expecting crystal clear videos like now in all aspects

[@stm3252]

I want to thank you for making such a hard topic simple! Please keep up this work!

[@Philip8888888]

Thanks for making these videos, the quality of the explanation is exceptional.

[@PhilsLab]

Thank you very much, Philip!

[@bm830810]

Great video, you can use STMStudio instead of serial oscilloscope, IMO much better choice.

[@cvvlib5102]

Hi Phil, thank you so much, you are always making amazing videos, so far the best KZbin channel for technology. Have you consider to create Altium Designer online course?

[@artrock8175]

Videos like these are PRICELESS! Thank you for creating yet anther great video! You're a legend! 👌😎👍

[@PhilsLab]

Thank you very much, I'm glad you liked it! :)

[@saapman]

Excellent video! Thanks so much. Great to see real world application of theory.

[@PhilsLab]

Thank you, Sandeep!

[@djmips]

Interesting, you go very fast but not too fast. I was able to process everything. Thanks!

[@PhilsLab]

Thank you!

[@ninetailscosmicfox5585]

This has been super helpful and you can even know how much. I’m want to make synths and I’m sort of reaching in order to have something really special and to develop some unique skills. To put it basically, my first project leading up to the first prototype will be an analog computed bouncing ball simulator with digitally controlled parameters and a lot of fancy ways to use it. I wanted to have a basic dial to either increase the system stability as a whole or decrease it without having to change the parameters individually. I think now I’m going to make a LUP for various unit steps of the stability control and set the variables/control flags with the MCU or maybe even DMA.

[@abhishekreddy2425]

I aspire to pursue the same field you're in, developing electronics for stuff like drones. I'd like to hear some career advice. Your videos really help, thank you.

[@conesillyvalley7182]

Only career advice is "work hard"

[@bendewachter3789]

Great video! Thank you, Phil.

[@zetaconvex1987]

Excellent. Very educational.

[@mdyusuf3174]

I also want to say thank you so much to you for making great videos on this channel I will also request you to make video on RF PCB design right from schematics to layout that would be great thank you again

[@fenixjose17]

Illustrative application. Thank you !!!

[@vincei4252]

Excellent. And excellent intro to Octave. I installed octave into my ubuntu system but unfortunately the local implementation doesn't seem to have the tf() function :( I'll try building it from soutce later today to see if it's a version issue as opposed to latest.

[@pietrogagliano4484]

Hi Phil love the video! Wasnt too long ago I was learning a transforms in class. Just wanted to ask how fpga video and audio codec board courses are coming along, I'm really excited for those

[@johnstephenson4428]

Me too I can't wait for the classes!

[@Soupie62]

Let me just add: if you plan to do an FPGA, please add an option for fast ADC (about 120 MHz). This could then be converted to I and Q streams at 15 MHz that effectively cover the entire shortwave band. Yes there are SDR's that would probably be more efficient, but their inner workings can rarely be altered for educational purposes.

[@PhilsLab]

Hi Pietro, Thank you! The FPGA boards are done but due to the chip shortage I can't get the parts :( I guess I could show the design process but I'd really like to show the finished 'product'. The course is also still being worked on but it's taking a long time since I'm very busy with many projects at the same time :/

[@pietrogagliano4484]

@@PhilsLab No worries believe me I really understand the chip shortage as well, it’s made my job hard too, I would love to watch a video on even just the design process even if the full boards aren’t done yet and then hold off until full boards are designed and watch another video with full boards designed to learn software end of fpga

[@ryuuryomen3197]

Very interesting

[@bobweidlar6931]

Hi Phil, Great video! Do you have any future plans to demonstrate the process of taking a physical system (say an LPF) and using the Z transform principles you've shown in this video to aid the design process? It'd really bridge the gap into the real world if you demonstrated the whole procedure of analyzing what input needs to be filtered, taking the necessary formulae from it, determining the theoretical filter value that needs to be applied to achieve the desired output, and then physically implementing it. A simple example of this could be filtering a 120VAC line into a piece of noise sensitive equipment. Of course the simplified formulas for these are readily available. However, it'd be a great way to show the link between a 1st order Z-domain system and the physical application, and obviously you could get more complex if you wanted to.

[@Shahawir]

Subscribed , that is so clear explanation. Thanks a lot

[@PhilsLab]

Thanks!

[@prashantajabe6636]

Which serial oscilloscope used to plot the output? (Software name)

[@mohanraj411]

Thanks for the video. Hi how to know the cut off frequency and gain .

[@ArsalanAhmadi-c8x]

Great video! Thank you !!!

[@Ekstrapolator]

i have watched it several times great video !!!!

[@PhilsLab]

Thank you very much!

[@V_baddict]

Hi Phil, great video! I've also seen the other FIR filter video and I love it. One question that I have is do you work with C++ as well or just purely C? I understand your focus is on embedded systems but as the system gets bigger (say 10 FIR filters), copying and pasting code gets tedious and harder to maintain. Let me know your thoughts!

[@khaledsaleh664]

Hi Phil, I followed your excellent videos and designed and built pcb's with confidence. You were using kicad in these videos, lately you're moving to Altium, which is excellent designer but has no place with the likes of us poor hobyists, please stick with kicad for our sake.

[@PhilsLab]

Hi Khaled, Thanks! As mentioned in the video, I'll still be using KiCad in videos but also Altium Designer. For me the tool is not the main point of focus in my videos, rather things like design process, circuits, component selection, etc. So all of that will stay the same :)

[@khaledsaleh664]

@@PhilsLab Thank you Phill

[@silviutudose7868]

Excellent lesson, thank you

[@PhilsLab]

Thank you, Silviu!

[@HB9GZE]

Thank you for this great video!

[@EmbeddedEnigma]

really like your video nothing like this was ever taught in the university. Can u make a video on how to get started with STM controllers.

[@piotrlenarczyk5803]

Thank you for video.

[@prabhuns1791]

Excellent

[@PhilsLab]

Thank you!

[@vaishu5301]

Hey Phil, how did u see ur data coming at oscilloscope.. Did u just connected ur board .. Or u provided some external data

[@MikeNugget]

Have you used Mbed platform? Is it worth it?

[@preetham56]

Thank u

[@RixtronixLAB]

Cool info, thanks:)

[@RobotN001]

Very useful filter (No).

[@CollinBaillie]

Is... is this equation... PID (or loosely related)?

[@prashantajabe6636]

Where do I get this code?

[@supremeleader5516]

Where it is used in real world?

[@atogh]

Wow!!!

[@PhilsLab]

Thanks!

[@christjulipds13]

I was able to do this with Weedborn CBD products.

[@Thats_Mr_Random_Person_to_you]

Like everyone else... all of a sudden Z transformation makes sense.... like WHY can't Uni's teach things like this? During a whole yr long module never ONCE did they show practical reasons, or explain it 'crudely' it was straight into mathematical derivations to show mathematically from first principles that Z transforms do something.... but never practically.. Kinda bugs me cause engineers are doing their courses to use what they learn in real world practical environments, but at Uni its soooo focused on the hardcore math derivations, as if that helps? I want to know HOW to use it in the real world and why it helps, and not know its full derivations by wrote....

[@PhilsLab]

Thank you very much, Owen! Yeah, I had the exact same feeling at university. It's nice to know how useful these concepts actually are in the real world, so hopefully these videos can help a bit there.