Z06 VS GR86 at Sebring

[@hankiuyi]

Thanks for the awesome video. That three screen view is super.

[@phelpsgarage4202]

Thank you!

[@escargod]

What about the Perrin strut tower brace? Did you notice any difference? As I think I've mentioned (and lots of KZbin videos to back it up with) I have a similarly modified Gen2 car. How are you comparing to Spec Miata times? I'm as fast or faster than pole sitters at some tracks. That, without Hoosiers.

[@phelpsgarage4202]

I haven’t driven the car on the track yet. I believe I’m faster then the Spec Miata at Sebring without Hoosier.

[@advangs]

Damn man that sucks, that Bimmer had just enough to stay in your way..... SMH looked like it was going to be a good lap too. This is some good watchin.... subbed.

[@phelpsgarage4202]

Yeah… next time 💪🏻

[@MotaDrives]

13:48 sounded like super Mario lol

[@phelpsgarage4202]

Hahaha 😂 yep!!

[@iManual6peed]

As long as he’s learning and having fun it’s a win in my book. Competition makes it great but overall dopamine is the reason we race. Keep up the content. I’m slowly getting better as well and will challenge you sometime this year when I can make it down there.

[@phelpsgarage4202]

Hell yeah!!! 👍🏻

[@gopro5344]

Great racing! I talk to myself in the car constantly too 😂

[@phelpsgarage4202]

😅 glad I’m not the only one 😂

[@jaron95]

Awesome video! You're improving the driving skills and KZbin skills at the same time! 🤣 Love to see a new stache upload on my feed. Can't wait to see what's next!

[@phelpsgarage4202]

Thank you for watching!! 😂

[@gyzfr6]

i thought it was Borat !!! Awesome driving, good skills👍🏼

[@phelpsgarage4202]

😂 Thank you!

[@newguynasti2008]

Your an excellent driver. Definitely think if ya power to weight gets better you get that track record. Unfortunately I quit that crap job across from the track and can't watch anymore but I still rooting for ya 🎉🎉

[@phelpsgarage4202]

Thank you!

[@dante_lsx]

Nice driving! I agree at your skill level you could definitely benefit from another 100whp. Quick question are you still running the Tomei baffle plate or just overfilling ?

[@phelpsgarage4202]

I’m doing both

[@dante_lsx]

@@phelpsgarage4202 cool thank you!

[@christianlawrencecruz]

After watching a lot of your videos the GR86 platform looks formidable! I think 100-150+ more hp you’ll be a track weapon; can’t wait to see more! P.S. If you do more chase videos such as this one, I think placing the footage in a landscape format rather than portrait format is nicer since we viewers are able to see more of the track and what’s going on. Just makes viewing more enjoyable especially on phones.

[@phelpsgarage4202]

Normally, I do film like that but I wanted to get some shorts for KZbin and that was the footage at the time of me chasing him. Going forward I’m going to invest in more cameras to put on the car.

[@SloJoeRacing]

Sick video! Enjoy your time on top. That Z is coming for your crown lol

[@phelpsgarage4202]

😅 I need that turbo power!!!

[@SloJoeRacing]

@@phelpsgarage4202 you’re going to be untouchable when you go boost!

[@phelpsgarage4202]

@@SloJoeRacing I don’t know about that but I should be a second or two faster 😉

[@t.j.higgins9939]

what group/event do you use for track days? i have a 2023 brz and I am dying to get out to sebring. track night in America doesn't have schedule out for sebring yet and chin track days is filled up for the time being

[@phelpsgarage4202]

Performance driving group

[@rs3tuber425]

I told you a few months ago that I had a brand new 2008 C6 Z06 back in March of 2008. Now I have a GR86 that I successfully track. The C6 Z06 was a nightmare to drive, back them there was no tires to pick from, only Nitto Invo and that is it!!! The GR86 you can drive it fast all the time specially with the track mode that allows you to truly slide without doing a full 180. What I liked about the Z06 was the crazy torque and power at any gear at any speed at any RPMS. The braking was also really good. What I hated it was the seats, the mediocre tires and how easy was to lose the rear end. Mine had a lot of work done(heads, headers, cam, custom tune, porting) a few months later and I was running a 13:1 compression ration, 7600 rpms (75 mph in first and 100 mph in second gear for instance) but it was undriveable. If you had the traction control on it would limit the power. If you have it off or semi-off it would want to lose the rear all the time. A friend of mine just sold his Yellow C6 Z06, he was driving 100 TW tires on the street and he went off track several times at Inde Motorsports and struggle at Atessa racetrack. The GR86 feels much better at the track.

[@phelpsgarage4202]

Yeah, I could imagine having that much power would be a handful on track. The GR86 is a slow car you can drive fast and for the most part feel pretty comfortable at the limit. Now I just need a little more power for the straight, and I think it would be a perfect all-around car

[@rs3tuber425]

@@phelpsgarage4202 We just ran 255 RE71s on Koseis 17x8 with excellent results. Now we are on Khumo V730. We only have Hakws DTC-60s and Castro fluid. So far apparently that is enough to have placed three times first place and one time third place on the last 4 HPDE/Time attack. the time that we did not finished first we lost to a fully built GR86 and a highly track modded S2000. The GR86 is one of the best track cars that there is, unfortunately they targeted this car for mid power/torque market. It only has 215 tires from factory. Imagine this car with about 300hp and at least 235 or 245s from factory.

[@technopong]

A car that's too unforgiving isn't as much fun as a car you can push hard and still feel like it's controllable.

[@FL50ssp]

C6 Z06 is near 50/50 WD with excellent chassis balance and control in stock form. Sounds like in your case it was too much car for you at that time. Too bad you can't drive it today and then jump into your gr86. My guess? You'd feel differently about C6 Z06. Have to agree on the crap street tires back then. And we both know how important tires are now, don't we?

[@rs3tuber425]

@@FL50ssp I raced this past Sunday at Atessa(Podium club) on HDPE3. The C8 blue Vet 200 yards ahead of me spun and did a 180, he had to wait for everyone. That is a brand new C8 with mid mounted engine and big tires. My guest? cold tires . I have the video from my own car.

[@TVR-jc5uf]

Love that you are pushing the GR86 platform. HP masks a whole lot of driving inadequacy. I, personally, would rather drive a 'slow' car fast and at its limits rather than drive a 'fast' car slow and just hit the gas on the straights and delude myself that I am a better driver than reality would dictate. No bust against your friend as he doesn't have the seat time you do, but your efforts show what a well seasoned driver can do in something with less HP. That BMW driver needs to get the heck out of your way...that is a perfect case in point as to an inadequate driver that can hit the gas on the straights and stay ahead but also crush your lap times where actual driving counts (the corners). Yep, it's a track day...take your licks. On an actual race day, a gentle nudge gets the 'problem' off track and out of the way so you can carry on with what will be an overall faster lap time. Love the content. Keep up the good work.

[@phelpsgarage4202]

I 100% agree with that statement and yes it’s more fun driving a slow car fast than a fast car slow. Eventually once he gets more seat time that car is going to be fast

[@teeebagtomm]

Love your style man. Love the competitive nature but also no huge ego. Would have been nice with no traffic in that turn, but you understood its just a performance day. Great track etiquette with you. Even sometimes you dont get it in return.

[@phelpsgarage4202]

Appreciate that! At the end of the day we all had fun.

[@ravenstylea2]

Love the uploads man.

[@phelpsgarage4202]

Thanks for watching!

[@VinRZ]

You are killing me with the stache

[@phelpsgarage4202]

I’m glad you like it 😂

[@ssoffshore5111]

I know you kept talking about hp, but most of it is driver and TIRES! Although you know this... With that said, great driving, and you're car seems to really stick well with the aero and tires! Nice job on both of your parts!

[@ssoffshore5111]

And yes, those C6Z's can be true monsters, especially with the right cooling, tires, brakes, and suspension mods!

[@phelpsgarage4202]

And a kick ass driver! I’m excited to see where the Z06 goes next

[@L86END]

Hell yeah! You were chewing on his bumper! I would definitely love to follow you for a couple laps in my GR86. We'll see what happens march, man. Im still lookin forward to it

[@phelpsgarage4202]

I should be at homestead in march! I believe it’s at night too

[@L86END]

@@phelpsgarage4202 perfect Im gonna use the ghost tactic that takumi uses lol. Jk jk. I know running with headlights off is illegal when tracking at night

[@phelpsgarage4202]

@@L86END I want to install some bright yellow fog lights, but with the future intercooler it’s gonna be tough

[@justcallmejefe]

Has anyone spoken to that orange/white BMW driver? If he's not letting you by, he's probably doing that with other cars in the group as well. Nice driving btw! Just a matter of time before you go sub-30.

[@phelpsgarage4202]

I kinda did, and I told him because my lap times were faster than his just to let me pass him and he can follow me

[@drivingpsyche]

That track is rough... but so fun to see how you outcorner whole lineup.... if only their spacial awarness wasn't compromised by their egos.

[@phelpsgarage4202]

Sebring is rough and bumpy, but it gives it character. Yeah sometimes it’s a hard pill to swallow when a slower car is just sitting in your mirror the whole time.

[@RyansResolve]

Hope you do end up going the route of forced induction. I just want to see what this thing can do for you with that extra HP we know it needs!

[@phelpsgarage4202]

It’s coming 😎

[@whiteunclerukus]

The traffic was a bummer, can tell that was pretty frustrating

[@phelpsgarage4202]

Yeah, I’ll get it next time

[@NoHoHank]

I’d love to hear you do a review of the new brake setup vs stockers

[@phelpsgarage4202]

I will do one

[@SGTPJ]

Great video really enjoyed it

[@phelpsgarage4202]

Thanks for watching!

[@NoHoHank]

That BMW driver needs to point you by 😩

[@phelpsgarage4202]

I know.. 😩

[@ssfirehawk02]

Rooting for you to break into the 20’s. Would love to share a track with you when I have my Z back together.

[@phelpsgarage4202]

For sure, let me know!

[@johnzindros]

You looking at the JDL turbo kit?

[@phelpsgarage4202]

P and L

[@XL5Master]

That BMW driver needs a talking to, absolutely ridiculous.

[@WyFoster]

Looks like an awesome car, and nice driving. I'd say touch the blue curbing at 7, faster you can point straight there the better, certainly when you don't have that much hp. Turn 17 I think is your biggest opportunity to reduce the lap time. Where you are hitting the brake is good but you're on them a little too long. You should try to roll a little more speed to the bridge. Ideally not feeling like you need to pick up the throttle till you get there. You can see your track out of 17 onto the front stretch is pretty nonchalant because of it. Probably about 1 second to gain there.

[@phelpsgarage4202]

I’ll keep that in mind, thank you!!

[@daylatedrift]

You need to put your friend in the slower gr86 since he doesn't have the balls to progress his driving skill in the vette and you take his car and progress your driving skill in the much more capable car. Then you can make a video of how much you improved your lap times from first to last session bc this comparison is silly as I stated in your previous video, these cars are two totally different classes as are you and your friend

[@phelpsgarage4202]

I agree, and once he gets up to speed and is capable that Corvette gonna be a rocket ship until then, I’m gonna enjoy it while I can 😂

[@NicholasZak]

Clearly you are a better driver than the Z06 driver. He simply wasnt comfortable enough to push that beast of a car.

[@phelpsgarage4202]

Yeah, I’m sure it’s gonna take some time because that’s a lot of car

[@ondreue]

Coolest stache rippin 86's right now.

[@phelpsgarage4202]

😎

[@kevind_53]

I rather see your friend learn his car than say oh I have a z06 i'm the track master ima send send it. Nothing can replace seat time 🚗💥💨🔥

[@phelpsgarage4202]

Amen to that!!

[@nodrogkam]

Participants are really not playing nice, it's like their street driving has been brought onto the track.

[@phelpsgarage4202]

Yeah, it seems like that sometimes.

[@dawirelessg]

nice lines

[@phelpsgarage4202]

Thanks

[@stevengreen3739]

Fucking boost it mate 😆

[@phelpsgarage4202]

It’s coming 😎

[@Julianklaus]

224 or 228hp?

[@phelpsgarage4202]

224 hp at the wheels

[@Julianklaus]

@@phelpsgarage4202 ohhh..that makes it around 260hp🤯. Faster than my 330i

[@elmoz122]

They all act the same way.

[@MotaDrives]

Def a good comparison. Subscribing just because he seems like he’s having some good o’l organic fun 🦾

[@phelpsgarage4202]

I appreciate that!