Zach's Gun Rants - Part 3

[@Catvader-cz8qp]

"I'm gonna go on a slight rant about guns here" - Zach And here we are 2 hours and 30 minutes later, but we still want more.

[@imperialbricks1977]

This should be a weekly thing

[@raven-jn8yn]

@@imperialbricks1977 No no no , we should cherish this random happiness , and keep it random , so we won't treat it too commonly .

[@casar1455]

@@raven-jn8yn agreed

[@krullachief669]

The impressive part is Mike is still compiling all this old footage just for a gun rant video.

[@hewhobattles8869]

That's whole movie.

[@nichasatummyache2510]

The dynamic of "a guy who knows a lot about guns" and "a guy who can keep a conversation going" really really works well in all 3 parts. god tier content and please more if it doesn't get stale.

[@finonevado8891]

there's a finite but huge amount of firearms, it just CAN'T get stale if it's zach with an H who is talking about them

[@therandomdickhead5744]

100% they have great chemistry. Mike is generally great at keeping the conversation fun. Good lads

[@guypierson5754]

I mean... everything is relative. He knows a lot maybe compared with the other guy, but not a lot in the grand scheme of things, .50 caliber was a handgun round long before .44 magnum was ever conceived, for example. As to his explaining double/single action, not mentioning that it's a descriptor of what the trigger pull achieves kinda makes that convo last. It's kinda akin to watching semi unscripted dumb and dumber.

[@vasilylysko6122]

@@finonevado8891 ДД щщшшо здравствуйте ДД ддодщдщд ДД джзлд

[@shawtysoobeautifull]

To

[@happyman2212]

Fun fact, the original 1911 design is still in use in Warhammer 40k, 40 thousand years in the future

[@travus111]

Why wouldn't the army of mankind use the gun of the patron saints of firearms?

[@Abdega]

@@travus111 I like the idea of John Browning being an Imperial Saint revered by both the Imperium and the Mechanicus He could be summoned to the battlefield if someone anoints their guns with proper lubricant

[@fz7788]

Didnt know that by who?

[@NicDoesDumbThings]

if it aint broke

[@fien111]

as is the M2, that's just a Heavy Stubber

[@Grape921]

It's said that if you stand outside the Las vegas strip and listen closely, you can still hear Zach trying to explain the difference between a single action and a double action to Mike and Mike still not getting it

[@omegaovercharge7553]

Fun fact: the reason the devs used the PGM Hécate II for the .50 cal, was because they were tired of always seeing the barrett used in every shooter game out there, and they wanted it to be more unique.

[@smartmars603]

Good thing they did too. It's a beautiful gun.

[@Ixarus6713]

They would've liked the guy who made the Mateba then...

[@Doug_R1]

Justifiably so. Though, Zach was also somewhat wrong by calling it an anti-material rifle. Ian did a video on one for Forgotten weapons and when he went through the design history and the design intent, the French, actually built it for use as a sniper rifle. Or at least that's what I remember. I might be wrong.

[@senounatsuru6453]

@@Doug_R1 The Hecate was a precision rifle in .50bmg, so yes. Sniper rifle.

[@vulpes133]

@@Doug_R1 Zach called it the anti-material rifle because that's simply the in-game name for the weapon.

[@Spartan870]

“This is the greatest handgun ever made. The Colt Single Action Army. Six bullets... More than enough to kill anything that moves.” - Revolver Ocelot

[@jbc00per]

That's all I can think of every time it's mentioned haha, it's probably my fave gun cause of MGS. Along with the Socom and FAMAS

[@seokkyunhong8812]

I'm more curious about the gun's bullet. The ricochet it has is ridiculous

[@JohnSmith-sj7io]

Gotta agree although I prefer the .44

[@EzekiesAcheron]

@@seokkyunhong8812 ... It shoots a .357 magnum last I checked. **Edit** I just remembered, I think it actually shoots .45s. I can't remember exactly. One of the two, for sure.

[@theheroofallvillians]

@@EzekiesAcheron Modern versions can come in .357 but the original model came in .45 Long Colt.

[@jamesnell7224]

"The Pancor Jackhammer isn't real" Ian McCollum has entered the chat..."I am the light and the way except sometimes the light is muzzle flash from 1 of the 2 Jackhammers I have!"

[@spoohater6949]

Ha Noice

[@aesiftheelf]

BUT IT ISNT REAL/j

[@piratekingthaszar7912]

@@aesiftheelf YOU DARE DEFY THE WORD OF OUR LORD!?

[@Jrez]

Yeah I mean nobody knew at the time but there are actually almost 3 of them, not just 1!

[@ln7929]

@@aesiftheelf HERESY!!

[@trollshamanpwnage]

Zach: *avoids aiming guns directly at mike at all times demonstrating ingrained gun safety habits* Also Zach: *points fat man directly at Mike's face*

[@christopherreichle6670]

Gun training doesn't apply to catapults carrying nuclear payloads

[@diamondjay6047]

@@christopherreichle6670 man's not wrong

[@RickachuCXVI]

In fairness, no amount of gun safety would help if someone were to shoot a rubber band propelled nuke

[@isaacvincent8443]

To be fair, if he fired it they both would die.

[@ladywaffle2210]

Gun safety does not apply to weapons of mass destruction

[@onthefritz9924]

Zach’s Gun Rants 4 will just be Zach ranting about his army experience while holding us at gunpoint

[@harrisonlichtenberg3162]

I'm down

[@ReichensteiN]

@@harrisonlichtenberg3162 same

[@cameron-vj6vy]

and the downside?

[@this.is.official.]

It fucking better be

[@prylosecorsomething3194]

I like this idea

[@Kirbyftw402]

"What do you MEAN there's a shotgun with a cheese grater?!"

[@PlebNC]

See Zach, putting holes in guns makes them better

[@winterminty1401]

@@PlebNC not putting holes in your gun all WILLY NILLY

[@kontrol42]

@@winterminty1401 Well, TECHNICALLY it will mitigate recoil somewhat

[@TofuTheTrashFox]

So it does it made it better!

[@cloroxusthestainlessone4324]

Is this about the barrel shrouding on a trenchgun or am I being stupid?

[@kreavill]

Someone get Zach a VR and Hotdogs, Horseshoes and Handgrenades and see how many rants will come out of that

[@nichasatummyache2510]

Would literally be a dream come true, like a kid in a candy store

[@josephhelgersonjoseph6115]

Or Tarkov

[@rexivivi]

"Someone get this man a VR Headset"

[@56bturn]

Let's see his reaction to the Deaglerov.

[@poffzihavenoidea531]

@@56bturn What about the 50 cal gun with a literal hammer

[@CrappyGameReviews]

Couple of things you might find interesting. 1) The .44 magnum is an N frame, not a K frame, and Elmer Keith didn't stop with Smith and wesson, he got Ruger to create the Ruger Redhawk because even the Smith and wessons couldn't handle what he was doing with the cartridge in its later years, he blew up several firearms. 2) 10mm and it's effectiveness against bears is massively overstated, a study was done showing that almosy literally any handgun was near 100% successful at stopping a bear attack. 3) the browning hi power is single action, but there were double action variations. 4) the browning hi power in game is wonderfully detailed but has one huge issue, when the slide locks back on an empty magazine the slide release doesn't move, your character instead pushes the safety down which releases the slide. 5) Sight Radius is important because the longer your sight radius, the less the front sight wobbling will effect your groups. It will also give you a finer aiming point due to the front sight appearing smaller. 6) the colt revolver is a somewhat interesting gun in that you must remove it from your dominant hand to reload it. Many people theorized that Samuel Colt was left handed but this doesn't line up, since through bored cylinders were not part of Sam Colts original design. My theory and the theory of many others is that you swap it into the left hand because that allows you to use your dominant hand to control the loose cartridges while the left hand can still maintain hold of your horses reins. Control of your very precious cartridges while on an unstable mount would be very important. 7) the ARs in game are all very awkwardly built with side charging receivers that would not work in real life, because modeling a correct T shape charging handle would be difficult on the Gameboy engine. 8) the Battle Rifle in game has a rather insanely large dispersion, which is quite strange considering the real gun, even in fairly mediocre condition, is quite accurate. 9) the battle rifle in game is a shortened tanker style garand in .308, which is a real thing. 10) the marlin 336 or brush gun was at one point the strongest lever action in the world. 11) marbles style sights were and still are a very popular modification for lever guns and single shots to this day. 12) John browning stopped working with winchester because they often cut corners on his designs in his opinion and there was some bad blood between them. 13) John Browning allegedly did not like the 1911, and passed away before finishing the Browning Hi Power, which was finished by Deudonne Saive, and it is arguable how much John browning actually did for that design. 14) browning often built his guns to be disassembled and reassembled with just a round. For example a detail strip of a 1911 can be done with a .30-06 cartridge, with the field strip being able to be done with a .45 or just your bare hands. 15) the Fatman is an amalgamation of the British PIAT, an actual fielded anti tank weapon, that used a huge spring to launch a shaped charge,, and the Davey Crockett, which you coveted well enough. 16) the hunting rifle in game is partially based off of the Winchester model 70, which is considered to be one of the nicest bolt actions out there. 17) the winchester lever action shotgun never performed well because it had issues with malfunctions, and they never really got updated for smokeless powder. Other companies have cloned them and made them safe for smokeless. 18) the Marksmans Carbine has a fictional Acog based optic that would be set far too high for a cheekweld, far too far forward for good eye relief, and the rail system is an ARMS SIR style rail that is kinda surprising to see in a game. 19) there were actually a few 5.56 miniguns and they are somewhat man portable. 20) the thing on your characters back appears to be a battery, miniguns are electrically driven. 21) the sawed off shotgun in game is actually apparently post great war. 22) the NCR service rifle is based on a Colt C7, with an A1 rear and front sight but with some A2 features like the colt Canada rifles. 23) the service rifle I believe is post war production, made by the gun runners possibly out of leftover parts from pre war. The only known example of a pre war use of that style of rifle is the survivalist, which is a service rifle with a .50 beowulf upper. 24) the ruger Standard series was created in a garage, and was designed by Bill ruger who was apparently trying to build guns like nambus 25) the .22 sub machine gun was adopted by several police departments, for busting windshields, and... prison guards. They're exceptionally rare and hilarious fun to shoot. 24) the sniper rifle does not appear to have a magazine wide enough or tall enough to hold .308 25) the varmint rifle appears to be based off of the Marlin Buckaroo. With parts of some savage guns welded on. 26) the grease gun has an incredibly slow fire rate. Many GIs preferred it to the Thompson as it weighed half as much, was a bit more controllable, and didn't have issues with wood stocks swelling. However one of the major downfalls is that the grease gun was double stack single feed, which negatively impacted the reliability and the mags were exceptionally hard to load, bad enough they incorporated a speed loader into the stocks if I recall correctly. Hope you enjoyed some of my autistic encyclopedia knowledge of stuff that barely matters

[@TragicTester034]

if i recall correctly the reason John Browning stopped working with winchester was due to licencing issues over the Browning Auto-5

[@CaptainCiph3r]

@@TragicTester034 that I think was part of it but I recall reading about an argument he had with them before that over the stocks for one of his designs, and just in general winchester was kinda scummy with their paying habits for JMBs designs. By the way, I'm the OP, this is my other channel.

[@willgillies5670]

Applause

[@CorundumDevil]

I enjoyed reading all of this.

[@rdhffhfhhgffgj2079]

Half of these facts are wrong

[@kriegthemeat7980]

Fun Fact: J.E. Sawyer being sick of Barrett sniper rifles being featured in games is why the Hectate is the Anti-Materiel Rifle

[@ravenwing199]

Then he should have used the Tac 50.

[@ScoutTrooperMan]

well thats sorta funny considering the bozar is very similar towards the Barrett

[@comradesam3382]

@@ScoutTrooperMan Bozar is more of a sniper/assault rifle hybrid, lookswise sure, function wise sure

[@ScoutTrooperMan]

@@comradesam3382 bozar was meant to be a sniper in NV since its F2 or f1 sniper rifle but for some reason it became a LMG

[@SS2LP]

Why does that not surprise me with how many awful decisions that man made with the game. Honestly cannot stand him.

[@lancemonday3347]

I love the “zachs gun rant” series but I prefer when he finds them in the wild and gets all giddy about it opposed to buying them all and walking through them

[@abysswalker2594]

Counter point gun rant is gun rant

[@revlouder5865]

Same

[@TuckyBlue]

This is more of a rant about what the guns are based on to be fair

[@frigginbirds]

Maybe past all the mods they ran out of guns to talk about. Hell, they joked about Mike ranting about the energy weapons if that can be indicative of anything

[@AliceLoverdrive]

Is this a rant about a gun rant?

[@Obsiqax]

"OK the ATF got to this gun and they insisted it was a pistol" Amazing joke

[@michaelostergren3516]

Gotta love the the ATF! making people criminals overnight like its their job.. wait.. it is. Scary thought..

[@tachyon8317]

Or having to answer questions like "Are Fleshlight stocks legal, for reasons?"

[@thatguybrody4819]

i would laugh if that wasn't what they would really do.

[@willumthewoopah]

@@tachyon8317 Gun Meme Review reference?

[@phantomaviator1318]

s h o e s t r i n g m a c h i n e g u n

[@McPatrick14]

I love how at 17:59, you can tell proper firearm safety is so engrained in Zach that he goes out of his way not to flag Mike with the Anti-Materiel Rifle.

[@zeldaglitchman]

And yet he's shot Mike in the face so many times

[@Kross8761]

​​@@zeldaglitchmanthose were all conscious decisions that he made though, gun safety should look like how zach didn't flag Mike, it wasn't even a decision that he made not to flag Mike with the gun, it's just second nature to not point the gun at anything you're not willing to destroy. When he shoots Mike he's made the intentional decision to shoot at his target. Both are correct gun safety.

[@benhaver9737]

And then he just pointed the fat man straight at Mike’s face

[@Joural0401]

​@@benhaver9737not really a gun if we're honest to be fair

[@flynnhunter416]

​@@Joural0401I agree that's hardly a gun. More like an advanced slingshot

[@bradleyoralackthereof5409]

When Zach said " I just have all this autistic knowledge about guns, and then some of it I dont fully understand" I felt that.

[@20dollarreview9]

me too

[@yoruemiya9196]

Me three

[@wiseferret4745]

Me aswell

[@MellowGrunt10]

As did I

[@ATFprdepartment]

I’ve found my people...

[@cej3940]

A third one? Already? At this rate we'll be at episode 10 before September It's like a wish made during a midlife crisis high come true

[@gewuerzwanze5627]

Soon he will run out of guns to talk about

[@ComfortsSpecter]

@@gewuerzwanze5627 they can’t keep making underfunded, out of date, never left experimental phase weaponry forever

[@jtcookie96]

@@gewuerzwanze5627 you and i both know that's a lie

[@rocket_sensha4337]

@@gewuerzwanze5627 on the few fo4 he has done. There's already content for another rant video.

[@gewuerzwanze5627]

@@jtcookie96 okay maybe not soon but there will be a point in time

[@sekarmaltum1695]

Gun jesus = Ian from forgotten weapons angry but disturbingly dedicated preacher = Zach.

[@windwalker5765]

I demand a crossover!

[@brain772]

god is John Moses Browning

[@brovid-19]

Did you people just *forget* FPS russia was a thing? was taken away from us before his time...

[@DeathMetalHead69]

@@brovid-19 at least fpsrussia isnt dead just no longer uploading

[@appsmasher7932]

Zach is Heimskr and Ian is Talos.

[@gabemartin6922]

I hope Zach doesn't have to rant about Borderlands' guns. I think he'd have a stroke doing so.

[@Hellscrap3r]

I know you meant "Zach" or "Zank", but now I can't help but imagine an angry Irishman yelling about the guns he has to use.

[@lordraider3899]

I mean like it would make no sense borderlands just has sum fantasy guns just think about torgue or the bd gunfirm that makes the throw away to reload guns

[@caster25000]

As funny as it would be, Borderlands guns ain't exactly rooted in reality - the closest you'd find is Dahl and Jakobs on that front. Maybe BL1's S&S too. I mean, in the post-BL2 gunplay, there's three companies that just RUN off of insanity - Maliwan with their effectively battery-powered firearms that literally shoot fire (alongside electricity, corrosive acid, fantasy radioactive by-product (Slag), literal radioactive by-product, and ice depending on the game), Torgue with their gyrojet technology (which, funnily enough, actually exists but fell out of use), and Tediore with their "throw your gun as a grenade then Digistruct a new one in your hands" gimmick that runs on in-universe logic. That's not even getting into the non-kinetic stuff like BL1's Eridian Weapons, BL2's E-Techs, TPS's lasers, and BL3's Alien Barrel, or any of the specialty weapons (read: any gun with red text) with even wackier effects.

[@beastwarsFTW]

Tediore guns seem to loosly be based off the Zip 22

[@anthraxboi]

@@caster25000 most BL2 would function but without the weird gimmicks like Hyperion's "sustained fire increases accuracy" for example. Without that, most likely you can create most BL2 weapons in real life. Oh what I would do to get a Pitchfork in real life.

[@cryamistellimek9184]

Can we get Zach his own show like forgotten weapons where he just rants about the gun in front of him before shooting it? First episode should be the pancor jackhammer.

[@gewuerzwanze5627]

Ian: this weapon is interesting because... Zack: this weapon is garbage because... also here is a nice little anecdote

[@whoknowswhy6449]

And the next episode will be on a lighter note with the mateba 6 unica

[@aidancutter8281]

I love this idea I would binge watch it

[@ninjapay9914]

That's not really feasible as apparently according to zack there are only like 3 prototypes ever made.

[@cryamistellimek9184]

@@ninjapay9914 Forgotten weapons got his hands on one for a video. I’m sure we can scrounge up some blueprints and hammer one out if need be.

[@averagetexan9673]

IT'S FINALLY HERE... THE MOMENT YOU'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR!

[@ConnorNotyerbidness]

Queue overly dramatic DAD DEE DA DADDLEY DAAS from that episode of spongebob!

[@HumanMarine]

MAKING THE GUN RANT!

[@bjoe27]

HOORAH

[@getcancer1542]

Hello there average Texan is it true you have a M2 browning mounted at the top of the stairs

[@spartanx9293]

RIIIIIIM JOOOOOOB

[@reesewilliamson3346]

Never forget that John M. Browning designed the BAR entirely in his head and never wrote anything down until the functional prototype was done.

[@deathgripskaraoke9351]

autistic people be like

[@1firesource489]

John Moses Browning was way ahead of his time; I would not be surprised if he was revealed to be an alien from an extremely advanced homeworld.

[@PhoenixAce]

@@1firesource489 deadass his guns are still reliable to this day

[@filmandfirearms]

@@PhoenixAce Not really. The M2 and 1911 are great, but the BAR was unreliable and overweight even at the time, which is why FN put so much work into simplifying the design after the fact. His multiple lever actions were toggle locks and so suffered from all the problems that implies. There's a reason they had so little military success. The White Army only bought the 1895 because they needed literally anything that went bang and Winchester gave them a good price. The Auto 5 works great, but the short recoil system is unnecessarily complicated. Considering what all of his competitors were doing at the time, though, it's quite impressive in its simplicity

[@PhoenixAce]

@@filmandfirearms you just named two of his guns that are still reliable to this day…

[@ninjastargames253]

Zack's nitpicking about the vanilla guns just gives me more appreciation for him and for the game. You can tell from how he explains the featured guns that he knows and enjoys talking about them even if some of it are negatives. I love that and one of the reasons why I will always watch this video through even if its 50 minutes long

[@ngominh259]

There's something magical about Zach's enthusiasm for guns, the lack of pics to put a face to his voice, and Mike's unending patience & willingness to humor him that make these gun rants oddly calming & enjoyable. I love these banters between 2 close friends and the dynamics that evolved between them. In my day-to-day I often think back of Mike's receptive & calming nature for Zach & his eternal exasperation with incorrect gun designs. It led me down a rabbithole to learn more about Zach's storage of hentai, Mike's public health degree, their girlfriends, etc. I love it. I often think of them as husbands now just like Critical Role's Sam & Liam. Their girlfriends are just here along for the ride :))

[@austinpoudrette1574]

I can feel Zach’s frustration explaining Mike single/double action. Probably how my dad felt explaining it to me the first time.

[@wrestlerwannabe]

From what I could gather, the action is what the hammer does before a gun goes bang. So, single action would mean, the hammer does one movement and then bang. And double action would means, the hammer does two movements and then bang. Is that right?

[@jellyfish3269]

@@wrestlerwannabe yep

[@collincaperton6718]

I'm ashamed to admit i still don't quite understand I'm with Mike on this one

[@wrestlerwannabe]

@@collincaperton6718 how so? Which part do you not understand?

[@collincaperton6718]

@@wrestlerwannabe ngl I don't know what part I dont understand it's just one of those things that no matter how well it's explained I cant pick it up unless I see it for myself

[@EvilAwoken]

That sentence: “shooting a lever action makes you feel like a cowboy” is exactly true

[@clownworldhereticmyron1018]

Yee haw!

[@Zach_Hazard]

You’ve yeed your last haw! Pew! Chik-chak Pew! Chik-chak Pew!

[@softwaredeeth6956]

Yee Haw Chuckle f*cks.

[@eatatable2301]

As an Texan you offended my people but yes yes it does

[@pringles_mcgee]

as a texan I am not offended by words. but it absolutely does

[@thescottsman1996]

Gunsmith here: sight radius has to do with the math used to calculate adjusting them, example M=(R*E)/D Where M is rear sight movement R is sight radius (distance between sights) E is change of point of impact D is between front sight and target and scopes are adjusted in either MOA or mils, minutes of angle, 1/60th of a degree, common in civilian scopes mils (milliradians) are decimal version commonly used in the military

[@nnighty2845]

Thank you kind Gunsmith for the knowledge and insight

[@Simulated_Eon]

How do you use the formula? D is easy. ex Target is 10m in front of front sight. R is rear to front sight distance. I'm not sure about E though but it in some way makes you know how much to change M?

[@ankergutten3428]

But why is the distance between the sights called sight radius?

[@thescottsman1996]

@@ankergutten3428 historical president and I think the math started as proportional arcs, or circle segments. Think of the one of the sights as the center of a circle, the other the edge of a circle. The target is another, much larger circle. If you move the point on the edge of the little circle a little bit, it moves the point on the big circle even more

[@riccardobassetti5446]

Fun fact: 9x21 is used almost exclusively as a "civilian" cartridge in italy, and some weapons have to be rechambered for that specific cartridge if you want to buy them

[@yocapo32]

That's because Italy has a ban on all civilian weapons chambered in "military" calibers, which 9x19 counts as.

[@viirus1362]

Yeah it is just a 9x19 that has a longer neck that goes over the bullet more than on a regular 9mm.

[@Leg3nd1603]

can we get like a live stream about Zach ranting about guns for like 15 hours? I'd PAY for that, especially with the banter those two can create

[@lechking941]

like 90% of us would pay JUST FOR THAT let alone the stories too. to fill anytime the gun rants cant produce

[@nailedit2565]

Cash. Money. These gun rants are some of the best content on youtube.

[@hallofguns8174]

@@nailedit2565 Totally agree.

[@LatinaVixen91]

So Zach vs Brandon Herrera versus gun Jesus

[@hallofguns8174]

@@LatinaVixen91 That would be fun. But as Zach has said, if you get three gun guys in a room, the only thing thy will agree on is that one of them is wrong.

[@sam8742]

I see mike has had a bunch of un-edited content he finally decided to put together, I know that feeling

[@SerLagsalot]

According to the Patreon post, Zach just wanted to talk about the vanilla guns so they sat down and did it.

[@sam8742]

@@SerLagsalot the guns in fallout still look like abominations, unless based off something

[@freezingjazzy]

@@sam8742 If you think those guns are abominations, let me introduce you to Fallout 4

[@sam8742]

@@freezingjazzy I know, I avoid vanilla f4 for that reason

[@nathanlevesque7812]

@@sam8742 How about being based off a gun from Blade Runner?

[@batsardcat3285]

Didn't we get part 2 like last week? It's Christmas!

[@tristonmurdock4586]

Zach is just that passionate about his firearms

[@kyleshelley1127]

yooo fr i was thinking the same thing

[@dreamcatcherben8214]

Dont jinx it

[@isaacsrandomvideos667]

Exactly

[@fink_rat]

An american christmas

[@HKBronc]

Oh god, you absolutely need a Federal Firearms Licence class 7 to own a minigun. A machine gun is defined as firing more than one round per action of the trigger, and electronic triggers are banned on civilian-legal weapons. The minigun fails both of these qualifiers. HAND-CRANKED miniguns are legal, battery operated ones are a biiiig no-go

[@chimblemasterofchimney4771]

Gatling guns are okay, miniguns are a no go.

[@lukabrdar6732]

@@chimblemasterofchimney4771 but if you put electric motor on gatling gun?

[@ABUBBA22]

Instead of a electric trigger can I make a minigun powered by a combustion engine and and fire it by slamming on a gas peddle?

[@HKBronc]

@@ABUBBA22 Afraid not. Anything that only requires you to push a button once is a machine gun. However you can absolutely handcrank it, or put it on bicycle pedals. As long as it is YOUR BODY providing the energy to turn the firing system, it isnt a machine gun.

[@Sakhmeov]

@@ABUBBA22 Hello you must be Russian.

[@RM10Prod.]

When they were talking about 10mm and he said bren ten, all I could think of was the Ben ten theme song

[@aidancutter8281]

Same

[@siddiqaqil]

Same

[@jackarss2536]

Same

[@casematecardinal]

Sadly I can no longer remember the ben 10 theme off the top of my head. This is a sad day.

[@BobTheReaper]

@@casematecardinal same man

[@nickboo3300]

I love how Zach took the effort to not flag Mike at 18:01 with the .50, even though it’s just a video game and he has no reason to not flag him outside of habit.

[@tadhgmcelligott3693]

What does "flag" mean? I've seen and heard it a bunch but I have no experience with guns.

[@LepidoliteMica]

@@tadhgmcelligott3693 Basically aiming a gun at someone else during target practice/etc.

[@Jakestillplays]

And then theres 30:04

[@Delta-es1lg]

@@tadhgmcelligott3693 Flagging somebody is when you point the gun at them, usually accidentally. You avoid it to prevent injury in case of an accident.

[@DIEGhostfish]

Even though it's a video game and he's INTENTIONALLY shot mike many many times in it.

[@RaptureGlass]

When the world needed him most

[@Alzir-n9m]

He came

[@sh00damusic]

And he said:

[@gabrielsanchez2208]

500 Smith and weston is dumb

[@sh00damusic]

hallelujah

[@outrageousgamer315]

Goodnight

[@sniper6823]

I'm actively losing braincells when zach is trying to tell mike how double and single action works

[@kanaka118446]

Ikr, he could have explained it so much better

[@WindowLickingDeer]

In hindsight, he could have explained that the difference between single and double action is what the trigger does.

[@TheSlasherJunkie]

It's really not hard to explain "the slide is what puts the hammer down, which isn't an option in revolvers".

[@shittinator]

"Double/single action refers to how many things the trigger does. On a single, it drops the hammer. On a double, it cocks it too." Bam. Done. Aneurysm avoided.

[@WindowLickingDeer]

@@TheSlasherJunkie Well that isn't necessarily double-action. Single-action/double-action refers to whether the trigger can pull the hammer all the way back. There's plenty of single-action semi-automatic pistols, like the 1911, Hi-Power, and Desert Eagle. If the hammer is forward, you still have to cock it manually.

[@arandomqueer1267]

"wake up babe!" "the new Zach's gun rants vid just dropped!"

[@goose95722]

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@sbfh014]

"Yes dear"

[@Dankster-yo8xv]

Nice pfp

[@superkeaton9912]

According to Sawyer, the reason the anti-mat is based on the Hecate is because he got sick to death of seeing Barretts in games.

[@slipipipi7971]

You know... i agree with him, Barretts were dine to death espically at that era of games

[@ReneeGalena]

and from experience, smooth brains still thought it was just a barrett but in bolt action, because the and I quote "thingy at the end of the barrel" is the only part they look at when identifying guns

[@slipipipi7971]

@@ReneeGalena I cant be too mad, i legit didnt know 10mm existed until this video. Even though i watch a lot of guntubers

[@1rotzy]

Part 2: “Tell me something you don’t know.” Part 3: “I don’t know.”

[@Yrtay_1]

Part 4: "Don't."

[@WingMaster562]

After rewatching this many times, I noticed in 17:59 Zach's gun safety discipline of avoiding to flag Mike with a firearm. Neat

[@Chris-fo6bt]

Secretly Mike is John Browning reincarnated and hes just being nice to Zach by playing dumb.

[@henrypaleveda7760]

are you sure that Zach isn't Browning and is re-learning all that he once knew?

[@notgray88]

"Man this guy sounds really cool. That John Browning guy was awesome, and quite attractive too."

[@baldian3]

Ain't everyday I see a Sound of the Sky profile picture in the wild, Have a like for that

[@Chris-fo6bt]

@@baldian3 Is that what this picture is from? I had no idea.

[@XSniper74184]

If he is then I'm suprised Browning's guns don't have more holes in them.

[@nickferries2777]

I like how even though he’s given you like 3 hours of lecture on guns you somehow know less each time

[@curlyjoe4234]

Sounds like the American school system

[@ragnarokstravius2074]

@@curlyjoe4234 No, it's more like "I know this much, yet, I actually know too little."

[@obsidironpumicia4074]

Thanks, _Mike._

[@NightTimeNathan]

“The more you learn, the less you know” is some real shit

[@MEEEPMEEEPMEEEPMEEEP]

36:56 It costs $400,000 to fire this weapon for _twelve seconds._

[@Tumbleflop]

Knew this'd be here

[@AFarmerCalledChicken]

I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit reading that number

[@MEEEPMEEEPMEEEPMEEEP]

@@AFarmerCalledChicken is there a reason or do you just do that sometimes

[@brothersgt.grauwolff6716]

"Who Touched Sasha? Who Touched My Gun!"

[@D00000T]

48:33 the tarkov devs have basically 3d modeled every part of every gun they’ve made with immense detail even though no one is gonna see it except in the gun customization screen

[@jackthunderbolt4307]

Vetsus Bethesda who slap pieces of plumbing together and call it a "firearm"

[@HTacianas]

The conversation about the 9mm pistol could've so easily been solved if Zach just said the slide pushes the hammer back

[@seokkyunhong8812]

"So it's a double action!"

[@MellowGrunt10]

I read that with Mike’s voice in my head and started to get a little frustrated, as if Zach’s anger suddenly transferred to my body.

[@daxtertalon4]

I would have said if I de-cocked the hammer, then pulled the trigger, the gun wouldn't fire.

[@raditzace]

I would have just said "what kind of action is based on what the trigger itself affects when pulled. The hammer does one thing for a single, which is why you have to cock the hammer for the cowboy. Double cocks the hammer and shoots when you pull the trigger. This 9mm is single because the trigger only fires the bullet, the slide just pushs the hammer back to recock."

[@joaogarcia6170]

@@raditzace yep, gun jesus would be proud of that explanation

[@kyrieespayos2580]

"But that's why it explains it's so rare though" Yeah the Hecate is so rare that almost all Marked Men and Lobotimes and White Legs carry it around

[@daskampffredchen]

Also a lot of legion in the late game

[@kyrieespayos2580]

@@daskampffredchen i swear i see more Hecate Sniper Rifles than Hunting Rifles

[@shutup8647]

@@kyrieespayos2580 level 30 ain't no joke

[@TheGreatThicc]

@@shutup8647 unless you get the Avenger and load armour piercing rounds. Then everything is a joke.

[@Halford_Steel]

Also the NCR manufacturer weapons

[@trainman2226]

"oddly enough, a howitzers is a small arms but the minigun isnt because this is an aircraft weapons system" AC-130: IF I SAY IF IT CAN SHOOT IT CAN FLY LOAD IT UP BOYS

[@Jay_Sullivan]

A Howitzer is actually a not a Small Arm.

[@Dragon-77D9]

@@Jay_Sullivan it's considered that by the army though, and that's the entire joke

[@tachyon8317]

From what I recall being told, "It's a 'weapon' if it's under 50mm. 50mm and up is a 'gun'."

[@gcon.807]

@@Jay_Sullivan, By the military’s standards it is designated as a small arm, in literal sense? No, it’s big.

[@christopherreichle6670]

I mean technically it can be a small arm. If you get a rig for a soldier to carry one.

[@michaelwestberry2654]

Zach, its sight radius because accuracy is measured in MOA and the thought process was you as the shooter sits in the center of a circle and your front sight post would be the radius arm that points to the outside of the circle, your target.

[@56bturn]

@falcon_by_the_lake Actually, as far as I know, sight Radius is called 'Radius' because it's talking about the length between front and rear sight because a 'radius' is just a line. 'Radius' isn't specific to circles. A 'Radius' could've been a stick. It's old, weird language things. That's why it's a sight 'radius'. Because it's a line.

[@spirit6965]

I hope he wasn't lying about the energy weapon rant. I know that it's gonna be a bit ridiculous but i can't wait

[@fardass3535]

The reason they chose that gun for antimaterial rifle was because they were sick of seeing the Barret 50 as the only sniper rifle in games.

[@nicholasmiller5643]

Plus I think the Hecate really does fit the setting better than the Barrett aesthetically, so it's a really good twofer

[@bookreaderman6715]

And I believe that the gun runners manufacture firearms themselves so it makes sense why there are so many of them

[@dantedeluxe5322]

I know, for a fact, that I'm going to rewatch these videos for years because watching two ex-mil dudes enjoy sharing knowledge with one another fills me with a happiness I have never felt before. ❤️

[@steel8231]

The M1 Garand was actually a great weapon early in ww2, as it was the only semi-auto standard issue infantry rifle at the time the US joined the war. Until that point the standard infantry rifles of both sides were still bolt actions.

[@givemeyoureggs456]

Was the SVT-40 not standard issue?

[@steel8231]

@@givemeyoureggs456 SVT-40's production was disrupted by the German invasion, if the H man had listened to his generals it would have been but they had to go back to the Mosin Negant and by the time they had enough to consider them standard the US was in France.

[@georgewhitworth9742]

@@givemeyoureggs456 Plus, Gewehr 43's and SVT-40's were not great service weapons. Mostly due to their gas systems being finicky.

[@alphaomega2937]

It was the best rifle when it was used earlier in the war but the Germans came out with the assault rifle stg45

[@steel8231]

@@alphaomega2937 Did you not read the part of my post where I specifically specified "early in ww2"? Anyway, thankfully the stg44 was too late to have any real impact other than get reverse engineered and inspire the AK47.

[@fumpkle8059]

When the world needed them most, they came back.

[@vortiger7375]

they never left

[@danielwilliams4701]

They are not the heroes that we deserve, but they are the heroes that we need.

[@warbacca1017]

6:16 "also hes a doctor. Ever heard of the hippocratic oath?" Me: stares pointedly at Richard Gatling

[@walhades1338]

Mike is like: i know very little about the inner workings of a gun. but that's not my problem, it's yours.

[@jacobrzeszewski6527]

Repair shop: We can’t fix your iPhone because Apple doesn’t sell the part needed to fix it. Mike: Not my problem...

[@nationalriot8519]

6:21 And here I started to think that Mike's going to sing about him being a scientist salarian.

[@brandonsavage5076]

This is the only reason i went through to comments to see if anyone picked that up good on ya

[@jedimike7622]

Had to be him. Someone else might have gotten it wrong.

[@thexmeta29]

I almost missed it the first time i watched this

[@Melrieoi]

"your guns cant handel my bullets, they are too strong"

[@notasmo9120]

ARMS DEALER. I REQUIRE YOUR STRONGEST ARMS

[@robertcapestany6019]

@@notasmo9120 My arms are too powerful for you, traveler.

[@thedominator5620]

@@robertcapestany6019 Get up to Level 3 to find out

[@KingBullDogg]

BULLET SELLER IM GOING INTO BATTLE AND I NEED YOUR STRONGEST BULLETS

[@ODST_H_Boss]

My bullets would kill Liberty Prime let alone a man

[@remsaman]

"i dunno what this thing on the back is if you dont reload it from there" "The minigun needs like, 5 car batteries to run" anyone gunna tell him.

[@coyotecom]

My thoughts exactly

[@petitponeydu7727]

the model used is the ammo crate for 5mm ammo in the game.

[@denisonsmock5456]

I never though about it that way. Thanks!

[@Minority119]

makes me wonder what if he saw the shoulder mounted one from the DLC

[@LonelySpaceDetective]

While I imagine the idea is that it holds the ammo (since the model is the 5mm ammo crate), I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was just to look cool, and they didn't think about its purpose. It's one of the weapons carried over from Fallout 3 (meaning it wasn't made by Obsidian), and I kinda get the impression that Bethesda doesn't know guns very well; looking at some of the decisions made in Fallout 3 and 4.

[@TheVampManson]

I wanna see Zach play Hotdogs, Horseshoes, and Hand Grenades. I imagine he'd be like a kid in a candy store.

[@notgray88]

Shame that it's limited to VR, but that's what makes it so much more exciting to play.

[@theworstmaid]

i wonder what his thoughts on the kalibri would be

[@jenbeadle2696]

Or the cardboard gun

[@BasedBelkan8492]

@Christopher Garringer "the gun is so small even a bb gun hurts more"

[@tiny_marksman0467]

Yes

[@raerae42_39]

I listen to one of these gun rants videos to fall asleep almost every night for months, thank you so much.

[@planescaped]

The real version of the .22 SMG literally does fire like a very loud zipper. It's insane. Look up Forgotten Weapons shooting it if you've never seen it.

[@Hawwwlucha]

I really wanna hear Zach's thoughts about the T-dolls in Girls Frontline now

[@ghostronin3278]

Not gonna lie same

[@baltajsandhu4381]

This is an ingenious idea

[@Crspss]

or zach gun rant animated with each respective t-doll

[@YoUnG-de8mf]

I would pay to hear that

[@petervilardebo104]

@@Crspss I would pay to make that happen

[@YamaikoHiro]

Someone please put a Triple Action Thunder in this game so Zach can have a seizure

[@ACrustyCount]

Ok, I had to Google that and WTF am I looking at? Hasta la Vista wrists. .50 BMG hand gun holy crap

[@YamaikoHiro]

@@ACrustyCount It's a breech loader pistol that is chambered in .50BMG.

[@orionakd]

Imagine a fallout game in some future There is a radio channel "Mike Burn Fire Zach's Gun Rants" When you use a .50 hand-made pistol and it explodes in your hands. The radio just talked about "the risk of using hand-made pistols"

[@YamaikoHiro]

@@orionakd lmao. A radio station that just reports and laughs at retards blowing themselves up with home made weapons.

[@djo_man]

Learned this one recently; Sight radius is called sight "radius" in the thought process of the rear sight being at the center of a sphere, and the the distance between the front and rear sight is the defining radius. The imaginary pivot point is the rear sight, and the farther away the front sight is, the bigger the sphere, which means it's easier to make more minute adjustments, which (theoretically) allows for greater accuracy of fire.

[@reductustv4664]

Gotta love the part at 17:58 where Zach avoids aiming the barrel at mike to not flag him, have to practice gun safety even in video games

[@Theirishbasdard]

I didn't even think you're going to make a part 3 I'm so fucken happy

[@danney777]

"You might need to see a gunsmith" Looks at gun that double fed: "here ya go, armourer"

[@Flakjacket96]

16:54 Crazy theory for the 12.7 SMG is that it may have a complex system that pulls rounds from the magazine, moves them to the center of the gun, fires, then push it back to the ejection port.

[@bestplot7621]

“Doctors aren’t supposed to just give away guns” I mean, it’s your gun, just sayin

[@hugosv100]

17:59 i like that Zach goes around mike because of aim awereness, from his training in the military :D

[@The-Okami-Project]

gotta say i really appreciate mike asks these questions, including the stupid ones for the audiance. i know these rants are supposed to be humorous like "ha ha look at this nerd" but i have genuinely learnt new things watching them. i love it, keep them coming please

[@thornwall6303]

The original video in this now trilogy was the first one that I ever saw from you guys and I immediately fell in love with your content. Amazing to see how far you guys have come

[@PhoenixAce]

This guys subtitles are near Soviet Womble levels of perfection and that’s amazing

[@wayneigoe6722]

Oh god... Now we need to see these guys play CS:GO with Soviet and friends. Especially if they do another drinking game..

[@livingreverie5951]

@@wayneigoe6722 I think Zach or Mike if I remember can’t drink alcohol cause one of them suffers a health issue that prevents them They talked about it in their latest video.

[@Her_Imperious_Condescension]

@@livingreverie5951 Zach can't drink beer, Mike doesn't really drink.

[@ohyeah833]

@Living Reverie Zach can't drink beer, which means he can only drink more expensive stuff, so he just doesn't drink.

[@drunkchey9739]

its really not, sovietwomble tracks and animates subtitles. here its just taped on the screen until the lads finish their sentence, no polish no keyframing no anything. just text plastered on a screen.

[@Dlnew3]

A part 3??! You two are just spoiling us now, and I'm here for it

[@orien358]

"sometimes in order to save a life you need to take one" a licensed doc on why he shot him teammate in the head

[@johngaynor4363]

*immediately before spawnpeeking

[@orien358]

@@johngaynor4363 oh no i dont get to spawn peek i accept my fate and break down a window and push There deaths will be my only redemption

[@emperorcaligula9098]

“I’m a Healer, but...”

[@amoose8439]

Can't let God do all the work

[@CptPhilippnes]

I think the term for that is "preventive medicine".

[@AHoardyBoi]

6:10 I do believe that the beginner 10mm is actually the courier’s gun

[@yocapo32]

Or the Laser Pistol if you have Energy Weapons tagged.

[@theguy9208]

Without any DLC, doc mitchell gives you a 9mm pistol. I think couriers stash gives you the weathered 10mm

[@ardantop132na6]

So 1 question. How the hell did anyone get Broad Machete even though they didnt tag Melee weapons?

[@comeslammer9455]

@@ardantop132na6 part of the couriers stash

[@Kagawwy]

@@ardantop132na6 Any weapon/armor that isn't the 9mm/22 vault suit that Doc gives you came from special pre-order bonuses. When the Gun Runners' Arsenal DLC released, every pre-order bonus was put into the Courier's Stash DLC, which gives you all the bonus stuff. The original pre-order bonuses included the Tribal Pack, Caravan Pack, Mercenary Pack, and the Classic Pack. The Classic Pack being somewhat unique, since it gave you the Vault Dweller/Chosen One's gear from the original Interplay Fallouts.

[@chrisbingley]

With the minigun, the thing on your back isn't for ammo, that's where the batteries live. Legend has it that Jesse Ventura needed help getting it on his back.

[@anoninunen]

all six of 'em

[@LonelySpaceDetective]

I think it's supposed to be the spare ammo, since it's the same model and texture as the pickup for 5mm ammo (the minigun's ammo) IIRC. It'd make more sense if it were the batteries; especially as you can carry more 5mm ammo than what would actually fit in there, but I guess that's Bethesda's knowledge of guns for you.

[@chrisbingley]

@@LonelySpaceDetective I'm referencing the Predator movie. The miinigun that Jesse Ventura carries kept it's batteries in the backpack.

[@LonelySpaceDetective]

@@chrisbingley Oh I'm aware, I'm speaking in reference to what whoever designed it at Bethesda may've had in mind.

[@Mushroom-Stew]

Waiting for Mike's Energy Weapon Rants - Part 1 now

[@LonelySpaceDetective]

it would be genuinely entertaining to hear him make up bullshit about the various laser/plasma guns like he did with the jackhammer

[@HokkyWokky]

@@LonelySpaceDetective I second this, im actually looking forward to something that was probably just a joke.

[@NovaKing3Xtreme]

18:23 Fun fact: the reason the devs didn't use a Barrett was because the art director (I think) was tired of seeing Barretts in every FPS and wanted something different

[@SandyAndy90245]

Feels like Sarge taking doughnut out to the range, just sarge actually knows his shit. Love this.

[@diabeticjesus87]

If you play this at half speed they sound so fucking wasted.

[@boxle7291]

Thank you for this.

[@trollman_2345]

Hah! XD

[@The_Bird_Bird_Harder]

Excellent

[@crunchu2361]

Thats like with any video

[@BlackKnightPZ]

Play it on 1.5× and it makes videos sound they just slammed a line of coke

[@wangdangatomictango]

A part 2 *and* a part 3 within 2 weeks? Y'all spoiling us 😭✨

[@thesilvermanticore7189]

That Mass Effect 2 reference was superb. Poor Mordin, why can't I save your ass?

[@Simulated_Eon]

Well you can but Wrex has to be dead for it if I remember correctly.

[@jamesverner9132]

When was the reference?

[@thesilvermanticore7189]

@@Simulated_Eon only immoral communists kill Wrex and lie to Krogans

[@lordcommissarspartan]

You can, but you have to have max Paragon to do it, I believe

[@hariman7727]

"I made a mistake!"

[@Rolzhey]

the Fn F2000 actually does capture ~5 empties before ejecting them, so if you are doing single fire sneaky things and only shoot a few times you dont leave brass laying around (17:30)

[@copperlemon1]

"Marksman Carbine" looks like it might a be a frankenstein hydrid of a AR and Kel-Tec SU-16.

[@PantherCat64]

I'm going to reiterate, Zach should write a book, or start a gun related podcast. He explains the subject really well and with a little fun in it.

[@Ben-----]

"Who touched Sasha? Who touched my gun?!?!!?"

[@demarcusraisor]

"I think I'll take Sasha out for steak dinner tonight what do you think about that"

[@Ben-----]

@@demarcusraisor "It cost $400,000 to feed her for twelve seconds."

[@tarabelle7716]

the disappointment in Zachs voice when Mike points out something that doesn't make sense but isn't incorrect is gold

[@grilin18.]

that feel when triple action handguns do exist. *glares at korea*

[@parjai97]

How does that even work?

[@gewuerzwanze5627]

@@parjai97 maybe bolt action to load the next round and cocking the hammer to prime the firing pin. Then the trigger would be the third action

[@raditzace]

@@parjai97 from a quick google search, its a combination of single and double action, typically called "double action plus" or fast action. The gun can be decocked but main spring is still compressed, allowing it to still shoot. Probably best way to explain: imagine a pistol. Pulling the trigger pushs the hammer back and then releases the hammer to shoot the bullet. That is "double action", as the trigger allows you to both cock the gun and fire. With "single action", you have to cock the hammer back, like a musket or the cowboy gun (the one he explained about "fanning the hammer" for faster shots). With "triple action", the gun can be cocked for a more accurate first shot (much like single action) and then the gun acts like a double action after the first shot (hence why it was called "fast action")

[@SpoonROoF]

@@raditzace that is very concise, thank you!

[@gearsfan6669]

I wonder what Zach's reaction to The Deliverer in Fallout 4 will be, if he decides to get it

[@CErra310]

One thing I know is that the PPK is a goshdarn beauty

[@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK]

@@CErra310 one of the sleekest pistols ever designed

[@tashkent561]

@@CErra310 Indeed

[@P.G13]

I can’t wait for him to review the piper gun collection

[@M3D1C2121]

Still waiting on Zach to return from the stock room with my cheese grater attachment

[@grimreefer9324]

Can you imagine who thought up “Man... what if we turned these nuclear bombs... and put them in a handheld _catapult...”_

[@flynnhunter416]

Probably me in a previous life

[@toastergaming7783]

Probably Mike

[@centurion7993]

When Zach says there isn’t a triple action revolver: sad experimental British revolver noises

[@mirthless5603]

Wait,what? Do tell?

[@dandydasyt4766]

Are you talking about the Webley Fosbery?

[@jimkorvemaker7450]

der are triple action revolvers like the belgian pin fire revolver its like singol actoin but you use the triger to prime it

[@pollyanna7201]

I honestly love this series, I know close to nothing about guns but there's just something about listening to a person talk about and explain something they love that always gets me hooked, these vids are the prime example of just that to me. I will always need more.

[@sgtmarcusharris4260]

The anti material rifle is based of the pgm Hecate. Josh sawyer a developer on new Vegas was responsible for putting it in his reasoning being that he was sick of Barrett style guns so used the pgm instead also he just thought it looked better. And I agree plus the pgm fits the fallout worlds style and asthetic better than the Barrett.

[@MrKrimson]

i need to watch the full series at some point - these rants show just how interesting and genuinely educational they can be but also the chemistry of these two within these rants is insanely funny - let alone when rants arent happening :)

[@johnmosesbrowningsrightnut8642]

Nothing makes me happier than these Edit: Don't tell my girlfriend I said that

[@zachburghdoff9126]

Haha 😂

[@Ribbons0121R121]

oh i will

[@the404error7]

don't worry none of us here are gonna believe that you have one.

[@AveragePTRD]

do you snort it or is it a pill?

[@domphilbrick]

Don’t worry bro, when she comes over tonight, I won’t tell her about this.

[@AnguisMortem]

This channel is a combination of all of my favorite things and I am disappointed in KZbin for not recommending it to me sooner.

[@lkraft5440]

I'd love to see Zack break his brain looking at the absurd guns in TF2

[@Subreon]

he should also take a look at the realistically adapted version of those guns in hotdogs horshoes and handgrenades

[@barthvader95]

THE SLIDE DOESN'T MOVE BAC-

[@fckgooogle1000x]

Scattergun and sniper rifle animations aaaaaaaah

[@lonereaper4287]

There is nothing more enjoyable than listening to zach rant on about guns for got knows how long and mike just keeping the conversation going. its honestly great!