125 2 Strokes VS 250 4 Strokes - What I Prefer and Why

[@jkabee]

Looked and sounded like the 125 was faster, but he actually pulled a faster lap on the 250F. Probably more due to rider comfort than anything. I would expect him to ride his own bike faster than a borrowed one, but given time to adjust and learn how to maximize the lighter weight of the 2 stroke and keep it piped, he would likely erase that time difference in a few weeks. Arguing between these two bikes is pointless. A good rider will learn how to maximize the strengths and minimize the weaknesses of ANY bike they are on, given enough time and experience on them. I've owned KTMs in both 2 and 4 stroke flavor. I love the weight, handling, sound and smell of 2 strokes personally, but I wouldn't hesitate to buy another 4 either. They are both good bikes... just different in personality.

[@charlesfisher3983]

JayBird he said it himself, it was the brakes.

[@warlordgonagy143]

And that's really just down to the age. I think, if you put him on a KTM 125, with modern brakes and suspension (and even more power) it wouldn't even be close. Me personally, it's a tough call.

[@toddguthrie8081]

Why does he need brakes. He rolled through most the corners.

[@commantrosexetlos4700]

a faster bike is always harder

[@waltersobchek2465]

@@charlesfisher3983 yeah he thought that because he couldn't engine brake like he did on the 4T. Brakes are fine, maybe different but anyone who rides 4T would be used to braking power along with engine braking.. take away that much engine braking on the 2T and anyone would feel different braking in a corner. I'm sure if he got used to it more he would come into the corner just as fast or faster on the 2T. Actually he did just that.. came in hot, found way less engine braking and went oohooh I need to brake fast.. hence idea of poor brakes. Funny because he hit the corners harder on the 2T Imo than he did when relying on the 4T engine braking and then the low pull power to make up for slow corner speed. Doesn't matter either way, run what you brung and have fun

[@kimjongun2064]

If you can ride a two stroke you can ride any bike, no matter what

[@hypo8881]

That's not even close to true lol

[@jnuxca]

yeah i can't ride 4 strokes for shit ahahahah

[@f.v.d.outdoors4626]

True bra

[@raynman6466]

Rode a 4 stroke like i ride my 2 stroke and it overheated 😂

[@kylewallace2650]

Grew up on a 2 stroke and absolutely love em 4 strokes are cool in all but just not my cup of tea

[@MofosRealReviews]

Notice how he can talk freely on the 250 but is basically silent on the 125 lol. That’s his answer right there

[@user-nu6vq1su4k]

Life Of Chris it’s because he can’t hear him self talk over that whiney ass 2 stroke

[@waltersobchek2465]

@@user-nu6vq1su4k that winney ass 2T would make you cry if you tried

[@user-nu6vq1su4k]

Walter Sobchek that little baby two striker isn’t shit to my 4 stroke!

[@waltersobchek2465]

@@user-nu6vq1su4k haha! Yep you're best 🙄 your 4T 💩

[@waltersobchek2465]

Lol😉

[@shawndoucette9797]

Just sold my 09 YZF 450 and bought a 2018 YZ 250. Love it

[@Hasangurbiyikli]

yea its best

[@caltsells6839]

Personal preference I like 450

[@yamahaguy1732]

Luke Stone yeah idk I mean I have a yz250 and it’s fun but I like 4 strokes more they are way more practical 2 strokes are for the tracks

[@youngman7655]

Yamaha Guy17 what lmao 4 strokes are for the track, that’s why I love em, there more stable at speed especially after you come off a jump.

[@yamahaguy1732]

Young Man I have nothing against them they are the do all bikes but I gotta say it that way or the 2 strokers will get all pissy

[@edwinhallett9751]

I have both an 2009 YZF450 and 2009 YZ250. I enjoy both. The best way I can describe it is the 4 stroke is easier to go fast on but the 2 stroke is much more fun. It’s easy to be “lazy” on a 4 stroke. The 2 stroke is much more “involved”, if you will. And let’s be honest, NOTHING sounds a good as a 2 stroke at full throttle ripping around the track.

[@samuelyeet6006]

Ok well say you lived in socal, and you do almost all types of riding, single track, desert, trails, all of it. And you were told you had to keep only one of your bikes, which one is it going to be? I am honestly just curious as I have a 2008 yz450f and am thinking about getting a smoker

[@figuerreschrisbernard8669]

@@samuelyeet6006 get one and set the powerband to hit early to have the rocket ship feel

[@samuelyeet6006]

@@figuerreschrisbernard8669 i did, and i did lol

[@figuerreschrisbernard8669]

@@samuelyeet6006 2stroke hits different on powerband than 4stroke right😂

[@johnrichardson8048]

I read an article by some dirt bike magazine back in 2008, by then most pros had been on 250f’s for a few years, they got all the new 125 strokes and all the new 250 4 strokes and a heap of test riders with varied skill level, ALL the test riders predicted that they would do their fastest lap on a 250f, ALL the test riders thought they DID their fastest lap on a 250f after the test... Yet every test rider, even though the majority were more used to, felt more comfortable on, felt more confident on and had recently owned and ridden 250f’s, EVERY single test rider, amateur to pro posted their quickest lap of the day on a 125. Surprised me.

[@Yodumeee]

Have a link? Hard to believe it was 100% to zero. Almost statistically impossible really but good story

[@lowkeykeylow5526]

You 2 stroke fan boys are something else

[@Loganhundred]

Ive been on a 2 stroke all my life but once i tried a 250f i was like "i need one". I love the torque, and i love how it roars !

[@acorn2oak90]

Sissy

[@randomdude4669]

@@acorn2oak90 I'm guessing your 12?

[@acorn2oak90]

@@randomdude4669 that's a big Negative, partner.

[@randomdude4669]

@@acorn2oak90 oh

[@randomdude4669]

@@acorn2oak90 so 13 then

[@r.cic1596]

Crazy...i just started smiling when that 2 stroke started ripping 😊😊

[@heazy87]

They sound like shit

[@pika5102]

4 strokes are like your reliable daily driver, 2 strokes are like the fun weekend car 👅

[@dondotta7393]

True🤣🤣

[@itstoolio]

Watching you tear it up on that 125 made me want to go get on mine and show you how it's done. Helluva ride, man!

[@SecondToLastChance]

It's Just Brandon: please do. I feel he did a good fuckin ride, but jesus there is more than 3 gears.

[@twisterscustoms3850]

Glad u got out ☮️

[@henryon400cc2]

Everybody hating on 4 strokes :( I love them

[@yamahaguy1732]

henrike68 yeah 4 strokes are good for track and trails and to drive 2 strokes are good for track I have a 2 stroke and it’s fun but I always go back to my 4 stroke

[@henryon400cc2]

@@yamahaguy1732 Yeah I agree, my uncle had a banshee before he past away last year ( Rip Lucian ) and that thing in the track was amazing, really really fast and light but, he had a LTZ 400 2006, which he gave it to me, it was a 4 stroke, not as powerful but it just cruises so well and has excellent fuel economy, and still has the low end torque when needed. 2 and 4 strokes are awesome but I prefer 4, even the sound is better imo

[@yamahaguy1732]

henrike68 yeah I would love to build me a banshee tho

[@tbn22]

4 strokes = power in the low end. 2 strokes = power in the high. Therefore 4 strokes are better when cornering a lot, where 2 strokes are better if you want to go fast in a straight line. For dirt bikes i prefer 2 stroke because of the sound and the power, and because to me, the sound of a 4 stroke suits a quad better than a dirt bike.

[@suna7453]

i mean if you compare a yz 85 to a crf 150rb you get more power out of the 150 and they are pretty much the same thing. (p.s. for ythose that dont know im talking about a 150 4stroke

[@perrinayebarra]

Watching ppl ride 4 strokes puts me to sleep. Once you jumped on the 125 I woke right up!

[@mbvjg4217]

Justin Rios god dude relax someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed

[@70806allstars]

already

[@noahranker4133]

Justin Rios 2 stroke are annoying pieces of shit

[@owenlapointe7080]

Same

[@briankennedy5578]

LMMFAO...... you just mad cuz they're faster , older , and you still can't keep up .

[@mikewilky7288]

I used to have a kx250f and I loved the hell out of the machine, but watching you on the 2 smoker really gave me an adrenaline rush. I have 2 stroke fever.

[@naked.singularity]

These tracks look more like the scambles tracks of the 1970s. Seriously! So smooth; they might as well be paved.

[@NRecob]

2 stroke opened up = music to my ears.

[@australiansickcunt170]

🤢🤢 no way they sound shit

[@brianrichard1768]

Smaller cc 2 strokes require more skill to be fast, you have to stay on the pipe and the lack of engine braking teach better brake control. The 4 strokes jump better (more internal rotating mass) and have torque that the smokers lack but on the downside they weigh more and rebuild cost are far greater. I have owned both for many years and hands down my fav is the YZ 125. At 200 lbs it's super light but to be fast you have to make her sing.

[@1969cmp]

Hmmm...back in the 80s I had a 1984 KX125, 1985 KX250 and finished off with an 88 CR500RJ. I did ride some other bikes, YZ125L, 88 KX250 and CR250 as well as an 89 CR500RK. Oh and an 87 RM250. 125 were tricky because you had to bring them to the boil at much higher rev where as the 500 was just ease the throttle on and not over do it but the 88 v 89 500 were quite different, or at least different enough.. The 85 and 88 KX250 were easy, grunty and smooth...lovely while the 87 RM250 reminds me of my current 2002 RM250....hypo...like a 125 on roids...

[@briankennedy5578]

@ Brian Richard , you talk like you think you know something. You are full of shit.

[@briankennedy5578]

And WTF would I want to do that for? You don't even know my age. You just don't want to accept the truth. And your theories are crap. 4stroke jumps better than 2stroke..... LMMFAO

[@JohnDLeo-rg8tc]

that's very well put> 2 strokes are just so much more more of a thrill to ride and to me they really represent what dirt bike riding is all about; the scream of the power band and the sweet smell of that 2 smoker engine. When i hear boring sound of a 4 stroke engine i think of grey hairs and rocking chairs, a great machine for grampa

[@briankennedy5578]

@ John D. Leo , come on now. Don't limit grandpa to a 4 stroke. Ya gona give him a stroke. He may be old and grey. But he's not that slow. Grandpa wants to have fun too. Lol

[@joshuabarrientos1220]

It’s not the bike it’s the rider

[@colecooper1116]

Joshua Barrientos I agree

[@joepicone6348]

Joshua Barrientos always true

[@priestartor9065]

Not true at all

[@colecooper1116]

Priestar Tor how is it not true, you could be on a 2017 kx450f and Eli tomac on a 2001 kx250f and he would win every time

[@ryanparret7775]

kawasaki team green Put him on a ktm 50cc and see who wins😂😂

[@dariusbekker2602]

250 2stroke or 450 4srtoke?🤷‍♀️

[@coltsc10s81]

darius bekker 2 stroke

[@Unknownas1337]

2 stroke if you dont have money

[@jereliukas7556]

Unknown1337 yeah and it has cheaper parts if u broke something

[@ozzie6540]

4 stroke

[@lh_flow258]

2 stroke if your going to race in that class

[@jsk8drummer]

The correct answer is to have both.

[@0888-k2h]

Yh but some people can't afford two fucking bikes

[@ADN1996]

4 strokes are for the streets.

[@noahranker4133]

Ashton Needler no just no

[@Hasangurbiyikli]

man just buy twostroke

[@Jemgirly]

There is definitely no reason to have both 🤣 go with the 2 stroke

[@noirxplorer3185]

125 2 STROKE USED TO BE A MONSTER BACK WHEN THERE WAS GREAT RIDERS. MANY CANT RIDE TODAY.

[@braydenser9544]

There are three things I like about 2 strokes more than 4 strokes: 1. Sound 2. Noise 3. Exhaust

[@paperroutea]

sounds like a weed eater😂😂

[@jesseelam9996]

Anyone that can commentate while riding, is a slow goon

[@Seabass1206]

Jesse Elam if yoy hop on a 4 stroke and ride it like a 2 stroke as in the first gear and clutch you will forshure pop a wheelie and fly off

[@markreagan2956]

@@Seabass1206 Not really, I do and I bet I'd smoke you 😂😂😂

[@Seabass1206]

Mr, KrAmWiCh CMDY kid i would dust you, you wouldn’t even be able to see from all the dirt and rocks flying in ur facd

[@dylan4505]

2 strokes don’t have very much engine brake that’s probably why u thought braking was worse

[@dylan4505]

Xnxxtipsy Camtoe they barely have any and your not supposed to engine brake a 2 stroke, good way to burn the piston up faster

[@ibferencdify]

Can't engine brake.. no gas no oil.

[@elliehall6419]

Im 15 and interested in starting motocross what bike would you think would be best

[@ibex7543]

@@elliehall6419 Hey Eddie, it depends a lot on what you plan on doing. If you want to go straight into racing, I'd say start off with a 250, very good bike to learn on, and once you do, the 250 4 stroke is a great bike to race on and send you up the motocross ranks. If you're just looking to have some fun, maybe hit the track once a week and some trails here and there, the 125 2 stroke is definitely the more fun option to go with. If you want an honest opinion, I would go with a 125 2 stroke, it will demand you to really get good at shifting and handling that power, making the transition to a 4 stroke so much easier if you eventually plan on doing so. I personally ride a 2019 Husqy 125 and race it!

[@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443]

Engine braking a 2-stroke isnt going to hurt anything if your jetting is right. Been riding (and engine braking) 2-strokes for over 30 years and have never had a failure.

[@offroaddomination5708]

125 is way better you can see he cleared the jumps way better on the yz

[@450.hunter]

With 2 strokes you have to be in the power band a lot 4 strokes offer more consistency in the power

[@TheSoloAsylum]

The real bike starts at 6:20 so you dont have to listen to that lawn mower engine.

[@marioraja4229]

no thats when the chainsaw is started :D

[@boganbros2499]

TheSoloAsylum u mean the monster truck engine after that it's the whipper snipper engine

[@marioraja4229]

Medinas831 no 4 stroke dosent have more power.. 2 stroke has more power per cc. 4 strokes are just more efficient.

[@rickfeith6372]

Fuck four stroke MX bikes...the ONLY reason they are even competitive is the ridiculous UNFAIR size advantage handicap that they got in 1928. The REAL test should be KX250 vs KX250F...and then its clear as day. Riding MX is supposed to be challenging and insane on a light raped ape that just goes like fuck.

[@MxMax-iu9dt]

Yes now let's listen to a strimmer or a mosquito buzzing in your ear.

[@zacharychambers674]

2 strokes way better than 4 strokes no matter wa

[@Vicscarm1]

Zachary Chambers they are more fun to ride and I ride 2 strokes over 4 but 4 strokes sound so nice I don’t like the whinny sound I like that deep sound but I like the power band

[@caltsells6839]

Not neceserally. Personal preference

[@UNLOCKEDANDOVERCLOCK]

Two Strokes are better for quick and short but if you're going to be in a long race with high speeds for a long time you want to 4-stroke

[@dieselgeezer18]

both are great

[@jacksonimbus9802]

4 strokes are faster, 2 strokes are more fun

[@garonslaton2047]

Ive always been the motocross rider back in the day that just loves to have fun and go sky high on jumps. Ive ridin just abourt every dirtbike out there, and a YZ125 has always by far been my favorite all around dirt bike. 125 cc's doesnt sound like much, but I promise it's really all you need, even when you feel like going crazy on the track. Once you feel that powerband kick in and you feel kinda like you're floating, its Game over lol! Yamaha YZ125 best of the best in my 26 years of riding dirt bikes

[@brianbrooks5947]

What years best

[@larryarnold1282]

Thank you for the video, I really have enjoyed you channel.......my friend just called said he found a 2013 125 Yamaha wanted to know if I was interested.....told him yes please....typed in the bike saw your video (have been subscribed) now I can’t wait until tomorrow morning to go get it.... I’m in my 60’s and haven’t ridden a dirt bike since I left California in 96. Can’t wait to change out the gas put Castro oil in and smell that smell!!!! Hear that engine !!!! Then give it a bath and get it ready to ride.... and store it in the man cave to start just to listen too that sound. When I’m not going out to ride....ah the memories and the new ones to come.. Oh I still drive my three wheeler every day....but she’s a four stroke.. Thank you for the entertainment and View’s from the go pro...made me remember those days. your videos got me thinking I need a bike again...Now I have one again

[@mikem4371]

If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball! 😂

[@carternevill]

Wait what was that from I forget Edit: I'm stupid the movie is called dodgeball 😂

[@ajgreen868]

I’ve been riding since I was 5 and I can assure you that a 125 2 stroke is quicker than a 250 4 stroke.

[@ajgreen868]

Nash Marius trust me I get that.

[@mondobananas1832]

Only if you make it.

[@yamahaguy1732]

AJ Green that’s not true you just accelerate faster

[@ajgreen868]

@@yamahaguy1732exactly.

[@Take0vaboardz1]

I love the torque of my 125 it’s fun and fast to mess around on and my klx250s is pretty fun to and 100% easier for trail riding but I love them both

[@aarongeorge2793]

Whats better for trail riding in the woods

[@kingd86500]

I like your videos Mr. Davis. Looks like you are just having fun. 2 or 4 stroke? ... what ever makes you happy. Just have both :) nothing wrong with either one. There's trade offs on both but all are a blast. I'm a 2 stroke guy, but ... I just love dirt bikes and would like to have a 4 stroke. I have 4 500s a 125 and a 85. the 85 was for my nephews but they never got into it. Weird right? What kid wouldn't want to jump on a dirt bike? LOL ... anyways my baby sister (their mom) rides it! haha I have a huge blast riding the big ones but they get serious real quick, just in love with their raw power ... the 125, I can ride and not sweat it and have a total ball! I ride my buddy's 4 stroke 250 and enjoy the time with it as well.

[@joeguinta1669]

Love the videos and especially the commentary. Sun in the background gives a great view of your position on the bike while jumping. Very cool. 125 2s is the way to go. Just picked up a 2006 YZ125 and love it. I’m 6’ tall 190lbs and it’s ideal. I always felt the 250 had too much power but that’s just me

[@zachdavis3974]

Smacky McLicious thanks man, 125s are a lot of fun because you can hold them wide open pretty much everywhere! Can't do that on a 250 or 450

[@dewetrademeyer2861]

I know they changed some stuff with the design but is the 2005 still good?

[@SenorDennis]

Are you sitting down when you're hitting jumps?? Get out of that habit!

[@labrascie]

DennisK he needs to get out of the habit of sitting down in general

[@raptormx9502]

DennisK he wasn’t lol

[@blakemoses612]

DennisK seat bounce

[@jannik7715]

He was standing up mid air

[@j.r.6271]

You can see his shadow standing up most of the time.

[@cosiestunicorn8031]

This is the first video of yours I have watched. I was thinking the whole time this track looks familiar. Then I see the description. Murphys is one of my favorite places to ride!

[@ohyes1975]

for tracks, 2 stroke. for trails and any other riding 4 strokes

[@Itsjake908]

Master Of Disguise how bout dunes

[@Nameless-vw8wh]

Master Of Disguise no no no for both for 2 strokes maybe even a 4 stroke for track 2 strokes on track is amazing because their power just shoots them out of corners and they are so light weight but with 4 bangers on a track since they’re fat they get good traction cuz they sink more into the mud and it allows them to dominate the corners but for trail riding two strokes obliterate 4 strokes because 4 strokes are heavy, they stall more,and two strokes are way faster to open up on straight aways, 2 bangers for both track and trail

[@ohyes1975]

@@Nameless-vw8wh well ive driven a two stroke on the trails and the handling is very unpredictable. they do not obliterate 4 strokes.

[@Nameless-vw8wh]

Master Of Disguise then why do you only see 2 strokes in enduro?

[@ohyes1975]

@@Nameless-vw8wh only? then i think im imagining things....

[@jeredalmeida1880]

On the 2 stroke. In those corners, try downshifting right before you lean in and repeatedly feathering the throttle throughout the turn. As you're coming out of the turn, raise up to half throttle.

[@michaelwoodsdale460]

"It feels so much lighter" and sounds so much more angry 😀

[@noahdupont8440]

Great riding bro.I have been riding 2 and 4 stroke bikes since the 80s.That 4 stroke went the distance endurance wise and it caught that 125.For big tracks like that I definitely want to be on that 250.For a short rigid tough track I would definitely go with the YZ125.

[@waynelast1685]

Is it my imagination or were you going faster with the 125?

[@ajgreen868]

You weren’t imagining.

[@Rudabaugh]

I prefer 4 strokes personally, I love the big, booming sound of 4 strokes (particularly 400's and above) and just the engine and its characteristics in general. But for me there is something about that noise at 7:02 and on that i just absolutely love.

[@hokiepokie333_CicadaMykHyn]

Do you ever get that 250 4 stroke past 4,000 RPM? I make my 4 stroke sound like it's about to have a stroke.... . You were definitely faster in that 2 stroke...

[@Jake_Hynds]

Right those 250 4 bangers need to be driven like you fucking stole them rev limit in between shifts and just floor it

[@hokiepokie333_CicadaMykHyn]

+Jake Hynds .... EXACTLY!!!

[@bqueen2771]

hokiepokie it’s probably because it is about to have a stroke😂 2 bangers all the way🤟

[@noirxplorer3185]

2 strokes make great woods bikes. The setting is everything

[@jessarellanes6648]

I like the YZ125, because I have one

[@Sully_024]

Love the 4ts efficiency on longer rides, but nothing beats that 2 stroke powerband

[@christopherwalker8240]

Just the fact that 250 two strokes race with the 450 four strokes tells you that two strokes are faster. Why else would they race them that way instead of both in the same CC class?

[@brysondean6707]

Christopher Walker 2 strokes usually make 2x power per cc, which is why this video is 125 2stroke vs 250 4stroke. Most people understand that fact

[@acorn2oak90]

Bryson Dean, 4 strokes are for pussies and slow trail riding. Most people understand that fact.

[@catdaddy5498]

Good point

[@mjg50550]

actually 2 x power is not true the bigger the engine gets the more it equals out race a 500 two stroke vs a 450 four stroke and all the sudden its backwards the smaller four stroke engine is faster than the bigger two stroke and power is about equal

[@dieselgeezer18]

because you have no brain. The 2 strokes give power every time the piston travels up. The 4 strokes give power every 2 crankshaft rotations. You say that "Just the fact that 250 two strokes race with the 450 four strokes tells you that two strokes are faster." Of course they do because because the 2 strokes give power every time the piston travels up so 4 strokes have more CC in order to produce that power.

[@joshsturgess2219]

That track looks fun dude... not too crazy but just enough if you want some good air. I grew up riding and this makes me want to get back into so bad. Great video man!

[@Lowkey_DeAndre]

You gained a new subscriber because I just bought a 2004 YZ125

[@jonyanovsky1267]

DeAndre Clarke how much?

[@dennismarques5910]

Yea how much

[@colebaranek4604]

I want this to come off less like a lecture and more like friendly advice. On the exit of the corners you need to lean in a tad more so you can really pivot around the apex of the corner. I notice when I ride if I keep my head over the bars, my elbows out, and my legs pinching the seat I'll go alot quicker than usual. Loved the video and I'll always ride my yz125 because of the simplicity and lightness. Thanks again.

[@Hoodyhoo2121]

Great video! I'm 5'10" and 205 lbs, do you think the 125 would be OK?

[@zachdavis3974]

Mike M the engine could get you around but I would have the suspension set up for your weight.

[@lanetanzey5031]

U wouldn’t like the bottom end get a 250

[@colecooper1116]

Get a 250 2 stroke that would be👌

[@dr9o21o]

Mike M NBC

[@speedtoad6167]

I am same weight. It is strong enough. I got my first first place last year against 450f's racing on a sand track.

[@chrismoody1342]

I’m torn between two and four. I grew up on two stroke and equate the power like a light switch; on or off. Haven’t real had any experience with a four stroke but think I could do so much more with the torque and wider power band. I’m and old fart now and won’t be racing anybody or free styling, my riding will probably be fast trails and fire roads. Any body care to chime in ??

[@friday_xo]

Just as I wanted to pick up a ktm 250 sxf,I saw your video today,and fuck me,now I want a 125 2stroker :D As I am new to motocross (I have a ktm 690 sm for street use),should I go with a 2 stroke to reduce the maintenance costs? Is it true that 2 stroker are cheaper to maintain/rebuild? Thanks

[@zachdavis3974]

sinXO 2 strokes are cheaper and less complicated to rebuild, and they are harder to ride than 4 strokes, which will make you a better rider because you have to rev them harder and use clutch out of turns more.

[@friday_xo]

Ride with Zach thanks for the fast reply,keep up the good work mate

[@tatetreinish3664]

Yes but you have to do then about 10x more often. I wanted a 125 2 stroke but I get arm pump in 10 mins so I’m going to a 250f

[@friday_xo]

Well,I am not planning to race motocross,just rip some laps and some soft trails on weekends. I am not sure about that "10x" its a bit too much,as I know a 4t needs a rebuild around 100rh,if I'm correct.

[@tatetreinish3664]

sinXO I belive Honda recommends 12 hours on top end for 2 stroke. 126 hours on 4 stroke. Don’t quote me though. Not sure about bottom ends. You need to change 4 stroke oil more tho

[@apeman2981]

I really enjoy riding my 250sx-f but I have so much fun whenever I get to have a go on my mates 125/ 250 two stroke. The arguing about which is better should just be friendly banter and we should all just enjoy being able to ride these wonderful machines.

[@babx1]

I love 500cc two stroke

[@juho3328]

Brandon Bullock that's a lot of power

[@jonellwanger7258]

Nothing beats the 500.

[@austinjames6298]

The 500kx is scary as shit. My cousin had one, and you can wheelie without even trying

[@MX-127]

This is how I see it 2 strokes are more fun to ride but 4 strokes are easier to ride and usually faster especially on a hard packed track. So really comes down to if you wanna have more fun or be faster and of course money. But of course if money is not an issue you gotta have both I would say a 150 2 stroke and a 450 4 stroke.

[@TwoThreadsAhead]

Probably a dumb question but which one tries to pull your arms off the most ?

[@mr.bubbles9958]

The only reason I would like a two stroke more is because price and weight

[@mr.bubbles9958]

Yes but I am not a serious rider I only really go on small trails around my farm so I Would rather a bike that is more easy to ride I also like the convenience of being able to put any old gas in and not have to mix

[@vinnyvega4723]

Good video’s Zack. I was at getting a bike to learn to ride on. I’m 5’8” 165lbs what would you recommend for a beginner? I have an acre to practice ridding around in to get the feel of the bike. I just don’t know what size to get. A buddy has a Yamaha yz450, it’s kinda big for me in my opinion but I like it.

[@1micYT]

Do it again and ride the 250 like you did the 125.

[@johnpaokara2935]

he can becose the 250 4t dont have that pawer

[@youngman7655]

john paokara29 your like 5 go watch some Dora.

[@waalldderi1103]

@@johnpaokara2935 bruh the 250 had more power than the 125 gtfoh

[@telefunkenyou47]

I love the 250F but miss the nostalgia of the two stroke. And it's the shaken, teary eye'd, can't stop smiling for 20 mins kind of nostalgia I'm talking about.

[@MR-04]

2 Stroke all the way !!!

[@Emovies-y8d]

Mads Jørgensen your not smart

@@Emovies-y8d You're*

[@doctorstrangelove8587]

I am 260lbs and i m looking at 90-s two stroke. Wich one should i pick, 125-250? Kawa or ktm or housquarna?

[@kentwyman8175]

2 stroke for life!!! Haha naw.. I go to glamis alot and 4 strokes are just more reliable in the dunes... I love 2 stroke though!! Just gonna use my 2 stoke for the track and ocotilla.

[@jasonwulff8341]

2 strokes r always more fun. Im with u , id take a 125 to. Not to mention it cost less than half to rebuild than a 4 stroke

[@thanosbustedinyourmum]

Jason Wulff The question is why are you always needing to rebuild your bikes LOL what do you do to them I’ve had the same four stroke for five years and never had to rebuild it what is with people and saying this like it actually is a problem? Shut up already we get it the whole comment section is 2 stroke nut hugging fanboys

[@d.b.newman6252]

Two stokes dirt bikes sound like nitro rc cars

[@fluffly_3183]

Wanna know why

[@fluffly_3183]

Bc they both TWO STROKE

[@s4rg380]

@@fluffly_3183, but I bet you didn't know that nitro is more akin to diesel, yeah 2 stroke diesels, Detroit makes some bad ass 2 strokes, you shoul check them out.

[@devinmadrid3158]

Lol nitro rc cars aren’t 2 stroke. They straight up make rc cars that are actually two stroke and are basically powered by a weed eater engine.

[@s4rg380]

@@devinmadrid3158, Well, no... Scale Nitrometh engines do not have valves, it relies on port timing in relation to the piston, and they also don't have oil in the crankcase, but the mixture of fuel (not pure nitro) it uses, does contain oils, so by all the above mentioned factors, it is not a 4 stroke. Neither is it a rotary, and talking about internal combustion engines, leaves but one, 2t. PS, due to the fact that nitro doesn't have a sparkplug, but a glow plug, it would technically classify as a diesel, (before you rant) dieseling is a verb, petrol engines can diesel...

[@christopherr1830]

How's a 2 stroke suzuki rm125 rate against a yz, ktm or honda cr125 in hp and speed? I'm wondering which to buy..

[@Snitchy1989]

i think your the only motocross rider in history that uses their clutch to shift gears! You have a fully synchro-meshed gearbox! You are just losing power when you clutch...

[@tatetreinish3664]

Snitchy1989 not using ur clutch kills your bike

[@Snitchy1989]

synchro-mesh gearboxes were DESIGNED to enable you to clutchless shift! I have a 17 year old Honda CR, still on same gearbox, and ive never used the clutch to shift in its entire life!

[@tatetreinish3664]

Snitchy1989 rip ur clutch plates

[@Snitchy1989]

why RIP clutch plates? clutches are wear and tear.. if your not usng the clutch to shift gears, then the clutch plates arent having to seperate and make contact again thousands of times.. So technically, its making the clutch plates last longer??? Also, clutch thrust bearings arent put under pressure from clutch pulls, and nor are the clutch pressure plate springs.... So actually, Clutchless shifting, Gives longer life to all parts in the clutch basket... Anyway.. i ride a 2 stroke, Where clutch slips are required, so Who actually really cares about clutch plate life? When they are cheap enough, and extremely easy to replace... (btw, my clutches last 2-3 years which is about average with the amount of hours i put on my bike, and thats clutchless shifting)... Please be sure to learn exactly how the internals of clutches work, before commenting, because clearly you know jack shit about them, if you think clutchless shifting wears them out quicker... "clutch-less" means No clutch... there for, your not using it, to wear it out.... but thanks for the LOL..

[@stevemx2778]

totaly agree with you snitchy1989

[@82coxy]

This is my opinion so don't let it hurt your feelings. This vid is the perfect example of why I pick 2 strokes over 4 every time. 4 strokes are boring to ride, stick it in 3rd gear and you can ride it like a automatic all day around a track. I can count on my hand how many times he changed down to 2nd. You need zero clutch control on the 4 stroke. Also you tend to rely on engine braking to often. I very rarely use the brakes on a 4, I mostly use them in the air to level the bike out. The vid says it all really. The 4 stroke looks effortless to ride. The 2 stroke looks challenging, it also looks quite a lot quicker.

[@patrickd6450]

What the hell? You a hell of a lot faster on the two!!

[@rachelhortman7556]

I noticed you talked less on the 125! lol That two stroke demands full concentration and that's what makes them so much fun!

[@joztunes69]

3rd, I'd have to go with the 250 4 stroke, what upgrades did you do to your KX

[@zachdavis3974]

Joz Sports lots of cosmetic stuff but a pro circuit high compression piston and valves in the engine.

[@TheRealKalEll]

What do you weigh? How much do both seperate bikes weigh as well ?? Maybe their is a math weight/balance formula for this.

[@shawns.6625]

Both bikes are clapped out!!! Lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Nick-ip7ks]

Shawn S. I think you’re clapped

[@shawns.6625]

@@Nick-ip7ks That's awfully rich coming from a fat " Mad with the world loser"!!😂 You sit in front of that TV eating sandwiches your old fat mom makes you!!🤣

[@lukeschrader1199]

@@shawns.6625 woah come down there kiddo you really hurt his feelings with that one i have never heard of that before.

[@divergent2619]

2020 yz125 207lbs, 2020 kx250f 221lbs..... Currently i have a wr450f, my next bike i want a good single track bike that i can take to the track.. yz250x? yz450fx? beta 300?

[@34Service]

Yz125 top bike

[@thereidtidea8990]

4 strokes for me because i like the sound and that i dont have to mix fuel for it. 2 strokes are good too but 4 stokes imo are my favorite

[@belalaldaour9604]

2 Stroke sounds like a mosquito whizzing by my ear

[@zac1121]

You have some good riding spots in your videos what state are you located at.

[@evanfield8361]

Honda 250 2 stroke all day

[@mickpork]

honda doesn't make a 2 stroke bike anymore in any size...

[@evanfield8361]

I know that

[@evanfield8361]

Been riding for 20 year's

[@mickpork]

it is sad that so many manufacturers don't do 2 strokes anymore...the cr500 is the most awesome bike though...

[@evanfield8361]

I want to take a 250 4 stroke and put a cr 500 in it

[@imasmallfringeminority1988]

The 125 carries u well. How heavy are you. Just curious cuz I'm looking into bikes and want a 125. Would a yz 125 carry around 205 pounds ?

[@ianlangley3872]

Im 250 lbs 6'1 and mine gets it pertty good with my fat ass on it

[@heatherharer549]

i would pick the 250

[@comedeyClips]

Heather Harer BAD 4strokes are for beginiers 1v1 me on my 2 stroke 125 fam

[@reubenknot3038]

Feeling that powerband is so much more exiting than riding a 4 stroke

[@colbyschmelzle2029]

250 2 stroke vs 250 4 stroke

[@aperson4933]

250 2-stroke would have much more power.

[@davidegigante]

500 4 stroke vs 250 two stroke

[@Profabdesigns]

You cleared the whoops and doubles so much cleaner on the YZ125. Need braided SSTL brake lines though. And maybe better pads. Awesome. What is your weight and height?

[@bassfishingnj4404]

Kawasaki don’t have the best engines like whatttt

[@brokebikemtb4448]

BassfishingNJ he said one of the most powerful...and yes they do....

[@clubhanson2125]

KTM, husky, Yamaha then kawi in hp greatest to least

[@jetzgaming5110]

Kawasaki are known to make the most bulletproof engines with both their road and dirt machines

[@jonathan-sp5qf]

Jetz Gaming that is right

[@loganwright1637]

BassfishingNJ in my opinion Honda is the most reliable

[@Ozzy-DRZ-Adventures]

I think its time to upgrade from my KX 80 to a 125, that thing can move, awesome video! :3

[@glahut93]

4 strokes are for lazy gay riders

[@mickpork]

what make is yours?

[@glahut93]

mickpork honda cr250 2 stroke in a 2016 AF

[@mtbridingog9083]

nik mxforever not true 4 strokes are for real men who can handle the power

[@glahut93]

Mtb Ridingog you obviously never rode a honda cr 500 or a kx 500 or a 94 and newer honda cr250

[@mtbridingog9083]

nik mxforever i ride them all the time my g there very fast and snapp but notjing compared to a real beats cr450r 2018 while the 500s are mean machines they wont leave the cr450 anytime soon.. And if you want to race on that let my buddy @450_killa know

[@ALEN.T]

I just want to know if its true that 125 2 stroke is almost the same power then 250 4 stroke

[@mtbridingog9083]

You said kx makes the best 250 not true rm makes the best

[@GoldensniperGaming]

Mtb Ridingog not true ktm makes the best. Won the 17 shootout and probably the 18. Also has the most HP stock.

[@mtbridingog9083]

FluffyBunny ik lol then its husky then its rm then its kx then yz then cr

[@mtbridingog9083]

FluffyBunny but nobody is sprnding 9500 k or 11k on a ktm 250 or 450 thats stupid

[@zane4964]

Mtb Ridingog suzuki is the worst

[@colecooper1116]

I prefer kx but ktm did when shootout

[@joaoramos32]

Great video. Simple and straight foward

[@youngassassin2077]

Doesn't have a clue what he's talking about 😂😂😂😂😂

[@hamplatt7854]

hi ive been riding in 1 year i started on a 85a but sold it to upgrade to a 250 4 stroke or a 125 2 stroke and im 16 year 180 cm tall and like 65 kg in weigh im kinda small and i want a 250 4 stroke but my parents tells me a 125 is lighter so if i crash and are alone i can get the 125 up but if i have 250 i wont get it up cuz its too heavy for me. and i like 250 4 stroke more cuz it feels better since the 125 u need to gear and it can go anyway and u need to gas all the time the 250 feels more secure. so what should i get im a beginner tho

[@siegedoritos7889]

Your really good and I’m trying to get in to Moro cross thanks for enspering me

[@dom790]

thank you for making this video because i didnt know if i wanted a 125 or 250

[@marte1a256]

Im blind. Im not here to watch anything. Im here to sooth my mind with the pleasuring sound of a crispy 2 stroke. Omg i can dance to such music

[@samnice5314]

Completely agree on ur decision plus it takes such a better rider to ride a 2 stroke

[@hidros1461]

I have a 2005 crf250r and a 2008 husky cr125 can't decide which one to sell both are in prestine condition

[@charliebrown316]

Nice I just bought a Kx 125 Kawasaki I love the way the 125 2 strokes sounds

[@waynelast1685]

which one is easier to ride for an old guy newbie? Not interested in too fast or too much aggressive action.

[@zachdavis3974]

250f is way easier to ride