ZAITSEV EXTENDED & Other Stuff

[@jersd]

"Cant see this turning into a bad deal" - Steve Dangle 2017

[@themathnerd1730]

2017: I don't see the Zaitsev contract going bad. 2019: THIS CONTRACT HAS GONE REALY BAD!

[@GravitehHockey]

Insider Man: Zaitsev for Price confirmed totally legit

[@andrewzolondek4973]

Graviteh sim7

[@RegulatedMilitia]

that would be a dumb trade so its a likely bergevan move

[@angeloginocchi82]

YAAAAAA STEVE IS BACK!!! Steve if u see this plz reply btw your videos are awesome!!!

[@SteveDangle]

Yooo

[@KrizenMedina]

Aw man, I want a reply too! I look forward to each and every one of your videos. Keep up the great work!

[@devonmartin2497]

I see it's over 9 minutes and I'm like yeah. Not another three minute one! Lol.

[@fatmahamdi4267]

glad you're doing more Videos! I miss the LFRS already!😣

[@recoveryfx2049]

Steve! You should make a 2017 nhl mock draft :)

[@grimmhalifax6040]

Can you please take over for Cherry when he retires! Rogers, get on that!

[@StarifiedSmiley]

and hat guy take over for Ron :D

[@StarForgedTCG]

2bcproductions

[@SteveDangle]

Even if I were slightly worthy of that, NOBODY should want to take over for that. Filling unfillable shoes.

[@adamchapman3922]

As shown by Strombo.

[@joshuabritton3581]

I agree, I love Mr. Dangle here. Don, though, is a Canadian cultural symbol whether people want to admit it or not. Healthcare, Hockey, excessive politeness, and Tim Horton's are (In that order) synonymous with Canada and Don is synonymous with Hockey. Since 1981 him and Ron (as of '86) have been on air for, maybe, the most important time slot of the week for young Canadians. What matters most about Don is that, alleged xenophobia aside, he has represented Canadian patriotism in a way that is desperately needed. He never fails to take time out of his shrinking segment to honor each fallen troop. He honors individuals and humanizes people who would otherwise be just another tragic headline to most. He emphasizes pride in how you dress, which is a matter of self respect. He uses the all to rare phrase "The Canadian way" to evaluate matters of morals and self conduct. Even if I don't agree with all of his positions he's an anchor of Canadian cultural identity in an over saturation of american media. Admittedly some of his opinions on hockey have become outdated. His true value is, and always has been, that he knows people and cares about people which makes him so distinct from any other sports segment. In that right he will never be outdated.

[@MikeeMike1]

Fun looking back with the recent news.

[@lilstonewall9838]

I missed you Steve! Love the podcast and the vids! Go preds!!!!!!!!

[@dbowles1771]

Anyone have any idea how Steve got the comparable percentages? CapFriendly has a bunch of variables that can be manipulated during this process and I couldn't figure out how to get the same numbers he got.

[@SteveDangle]

If you go to a player's page there's a compare option above each of his contracts

[@dbowles1771]

Ahhh gotchya. Thanks Steve!

[@toddadams6353]

That Don Cherry impression kills me

[@havregryn94]

can someone please tell me what happend to Lupul?

[@BradenYG]

congrats on 60k Steve

[@308MiA]

Two videos in two days. Life is good.

[@jennifere.259]

YES on the patience angle from Lou. We are all excited because this past year exceeded all of our expectations, but we are still FIRMLY in the middle (or beginning, you could argue) of a rebuild. Stick to the Shanaplan.

[@jayheevlogs]

Steve never leave again ❤️

[@yoursmilee]

Will definitely be heartbreaking. But there's so much potential and room for growth. Can't wait to see how they play next season. Go leafs go!

[@WC-Carpentry]

What about Jeremy Bracco?

[@TheComedyHangnail]

Gonna be a fun post season! 👍

[@Wiggzy_]

Is horton gonna play sometime soon? I mean it's year's since his injury or is his career over?

[@KerryParkIslanders-nq4rm]

Victor ious he's done. Not officially but he's done

[@puuttuvapaalanen]

Leafs made a great signing in Miro Aaltonen. He has had a great season with the mediocre HK Vitjaz squad. He has also trained now on Finlands first line for the upcoming Worlds with Aho and Filppula. Really hoping him to be a contributer for leafs next season.

[@alyssafrancella8181]

Made my day!Your the best😂👍🏻

[@ctsg15]

If Zaitsev ends up being a decent two-way 10 goal 40-50 point guy, this deal is going to be real nice. He can definitely be that good offensively.

[@yuryur7982]

ctsg15 40-50 points is a reach

[@moriellymoproblems7842]

He scored 36 pts in his first season, how is 40+ a reach?

[@JewUnit6]

got 36 in his first year on north american ice. he can easily get 40-50

[@Salto3ful]

He could be the new roman josi

[@ctsg15]

MoRiellyMoProblems exactly

[@ddmath]

I think that the Leafs suffered from the compressed schedule. But not because of the games and being tired, but because the coach didn't get the time he needed with a young team. You can only do so much with video, and the breaks in between games and road trips seemed to me that they got morning skates and video sessions, and not a lot of actual practice time. So, combine a regular season with the addition of a year of experience and throw in more time to teach and learn on the ice, the Leafs have a great chance to improve over this past season.

[@GreerFried]

0:36 Nathan Horton, oh, the memories.

[@patrickplayz713]

Keep uploading!!

[@manbirb9216]

Zaitseven

[@jayheevlogs]

Miro Aaltonen was amazing atleast in khl and and those random eht tournaments

[@leafyutube]

Most of you clowns were proven wrong on Zaitsev. That was a terrible contract. You make Don Cherry look like Einstein by comparison.

[@CarvedParachute]

You deserve 1 millions subscribers

[@indahead5912]

Any time matthews go down you can write our season off. I know we had nylander and marner but matthews is on another level, without him we would have been where everyone predicted them to be after the season 25th.

[@KerryParkIslanders-nq4rm]

We need a second intermission segment with Steve Dangle and PK Subban when he retires

[@rockyernest210]

do you think we should try and sign manner, nylander or Mathews to a long term or long ish soon bc all there contacts will come up at one time.

[@lger2010]

All three as long as humanly possible

[@rockyernest210]

Lol

[@JewUnit6]

and nylander is a year before marner and matthews so its not at the same time. cap is not an issue anymore, go look at capfriendly or hockeybuzz

[@roninb9829]

I'm a hawks fan but I watch him

[@andrewj72]

Ronin #11 H I find u again, who would've guessed?!?!? 😂

[@brianschlaf7007]

Ronin B same

[@staplesy]

Two way deals affect salary, not cap hit. $900K of the cap hit (max) gets buried when a player is sent to the AHL. That applies to one way and two ways deals. Waiver eligibility is also not affected by contract status. One way and two way deal players need to be waived if they are waiver eligible players.

[@Lukedolan33]

Steve is a god

[@cardkids02]

Steve How come nothing on the Flyers getting the No.2 Pick?... I mean the Draft

[@jamesv1995]

Great vid but nothing at all about the Draft Lottery?

[@skipperslog8633]

VladimirV ik

[@skipperslog8633]

I think he is going to do a seperate video for that

[@ctsg15]

J31H I doubt he will make a video about it. It doesn't matter to him, plus he talked about it on the podcast. He'll definitely talk about the first 3 picks come the draft, but he wont make an entire video about the lottery.

[@moriellymoproblems7842]

It's in the podcast.

[@kitty62862]

60K subscribers. Awesome!!! An ad ran before this video.

[@Myraacle]

Did Lupul retire?

[@JewUnit6]

no but we have burried him in ltir. Im pretty sure his career is over, great player but he cant play five games without getting hurt

[@thisisar1941]

I see you sporting that centennial classic jersey, Steve

[@SteveDangle]

Good eye!

[@dc619]

Why protect Martin over Leivo/Leipsic?

[@JewUnit6]

he didnt explain well. leivo over martin although they can protect both cuz of the ben smith signing. Imo we would want martin instead of leipsic. leipsic is wayy easier to replace then martin. you may think leipsic a bit better in general then martin but no way we replace that style of play as easily as a guy like leipsic

[@jamiestuart8551]

I think that Lou is taking a step back and not getting caught up in the hype from the media. Just like you said 'who knows how next year will play out'. Will someone go after matthews knee on knee? What will happen then to the leafs offensive production? Right now it just fun to speculate. Nobody knows for sure.

[@jaxonsnyder3865]

I loved that don impression

[@fanteige]

this aged like milk holy 😭

[@Hirmumyrsky]

About Leafs next season, one thing you did not mention as possibility: Sophmore slump. You have maaany rookies that are eligble for one.

[@benpearse4298]

Do you think the leafs will be able to make the playoffs next year now that they have all these expectations

[@franckj.]

Yup, we're wizards. #StandWithUs

[@williamhuitt3640]

Filip Forsberg only makes 6M a year; Ryan Ellis only makes 2.5M a year. David Polie is a Wizard indeed!

[@JewUnit6]

not really thats the dynamic of signing players with high potential to long term deals, at the mid-end term they are very good contracts.. that forsberg trade was amazing though

[@franckj.]

Sure you're right. It's a great combination of good scouting and Poile's wizardry on trades in the recent years (the Johansen trade, the Subban trade, the Forsberg trade, even the Neal trade, all great).

[@ibeleaf]

good podcast today!

[@mylesbumphrey6416]

I love you Steve

[@ThatsBadTV]

thats exactly how I feel about the Leafs being patient.. It would stink if they missed next year however yeah Tampa, Flyers etc.. They'll be in the hunt for sure

[@GGpro38]

im liking the centennial jersey

[@GReesor]

Steve, I really want you to do a montage/analysis of the rudest goals of the season, because I've been watching some replays and wow are some just... brutally unkind.

[@AnnihilatorCZ]

Words of wisdom Leaf management, take note. Protect Rychel. I play with him on the first Leaf line in my NHL 2017 Be a Pro along with JVR and he's a beast!

[@tx9mdy653]

Renegade Cz boi

[@yuryur7982]

Renegade Cz smfh

[@AnnihilatorCZ]

Right? Right?!

[@scarycrazymann]

Renegade Cz pretty sure a player in a video game (which is just a couple of lines of code) is very different than a player in real life. also considering that NHL 17 is a shitty game.

[@AnnihilatorCZ]

No fucking shit. Nylander is scratched there cuz is overall is lower. It's only game, why you heff to be mad?

[@alexanderking7543]

The Predators ARE wizards. :3 XD

[@ELSKELATORO]

where is this years MFR

[@SpaceWolfPainter]

Capitals will start talking off season stuff here soon as well.

[@Scirollo]

Steve as a respected hockey guy, can you please make a general rant on the Ottawa Senators and all the hate they receive from all the weak and jealous fan bases in the NHL.

[@justsomrandomhockey4106]

STEVE!!!!

[@georgeboccanfuso6076]

If you're in then you're in for anything that happens. Go back to the expectations you had in October and you will be fine.

[@bpproductions2249]

This better not turn into a Phaneuf situation with the contract

[@JewUnit6]

man do any of you have a grasp on numbers? the salary cap has gone up like five times since that, and phaneaf was making 6-7 mill instead of 4.5. Everybody needs to realize that their reference point must change each year with the increased cap. 5 mill is the old 3 mill, crosby has always got top dollar, he used to have a contract worth about 5 mill and that was high back then, guys like that are worth 8-10 mill these days.

[@JewUnit6]

not to mention we were in cap trouble when they signed phaneaf, we have about 25 mill next season

[@anewday9682]

i dont know buddy...you are forgetting all the leads they blew at the begining of the year.... if they could win half of those next season, who knows

[@SteveDangle]

So many factors

[@Scionofgreyhaven]

Hockey is boring without the leafs and Steve

[@michaelcolange]

Kyle Broflovski 100% true

[@graysonallen7779]

Daniel Gertler who do you cheer for

[@graysonallen7779]

Daniel Gertler both teams made it to round 2 they can't be that bad

[@graysonallen7779]

Daniel Gertler I meant it general

[@scarycrazymann]

Kyle Broflovski no it's better without the leafs.

[@0V3CHKiN]

You basically take Brooks Laich's money and give it to Zaitsev.

[@stretchthefirst]

Of course the Predators are wizards. They somehow got Erat for Forsberg, remember?

[@theoriginalshankster]

Zaitsev was signed long term just to piss off Cherry. I love this deal.

[@michaeldilley2544]

Do you tho?

[@fakeaccount8678]

Damn this vid aged well lmao🤣

[@theguyishere16]

Did you actually just put Kadri on the same list of names of guys you could get trade deals for that the Leafs would accept? C'mon Steve.

[@TheSpyboygamer]

I'm In!

[@JewUnit6]

STEVE WE SIGNED BEN SMITH SO WE HAVE TWO EXPOSED FORWARDS, HIM AND FEHR!!!!!

[@Bori6666]

Young dangle

[@owenolmsted4559]

2017: Barrie? Nah too expensive I’m good with Zaitsev 2019: Barrie is a beautiful human being and dirt cheap! Zaitsev is too expensive! sell him to the sens for one year of Ceci!

[@Koltenrepaye]

Hi

[@bencollingsmackay5071]

keep this up

[@shakenbacon3655]

i feel like a bad leaf fan because I'm not sold on Zaitsev... I'll forgive his terrible playoff performance because he was hurt. However, based on his regular season play he seemed like a defense liability to me... that's not great if your a defensemen.

[@stlfatman]

Dangle for Prime Minister!

[@liammiddleton6085]

Steve you cant take over for don cherry there's to many things he understands that you just dont get and its clear from just looking at sydney crosby enforcers are very important fighting should not be a thing of the past but a faster hockey game should be

[@memphis4590]

Well... that contract didn't age well at all.

[@ctsg15]

hi

[@andrewzolondek4973]

that's a little too much for zaitsev, if your a -21 on a playoff team that has a top 5 power play and penalty kill you probably aren't a good defensive player. also when you watch him play he can look lost out there at times.

[@Flaris]

Well if you were watching him when he was coming back from a concussion....that might explain him looking lost. In the end that's how much they had to pay. Zaitsev had all the cards. Could go back to Russia, or sign for a year or so and then he's a UFA, and he knows the Leafs have no one on the blueline. He was a good top 4 D on a rookie year after spending a fair amount of time in the KHL. That's market value.

[@JewUnit6]

cherry wrong on this one, the guy didnt play the top pp so throw that one out, i dont think he was on the pk either. First year on north american ice and had to play the best players in the league all year. Also his strength is being a puck moving d, which helped us alot. Look at montreal without a puck mover that was their flaw in the playoffs this year. Woulda been nice to have pk still

[@walkerfrommb]

7:09 well that happened. Betcha didn't think it would cost Naz. Also, yet again didn't age well 🤣

[@adampincente209]

Zaitsev is not done getting better.

[@jessicaburbankhater]

Leafs = Stars 2.0

[@RandalPlaysTV]

Jake Sirkis Except the leafs have a goalie

[@jessicaburbankhater]

RandalPlays I meant in terms of how similar their situations are. Stars get Seguin and lose Erikson in the trade. Leafs acquire Matthews after trading Kessel a year prior. Both teams had good wingers in JVR and Benn (though Benn is on another level). Year 1 of the new era both teams snuck into the 1st round and lost in 6 games. I could see the Leafs coming back to earth in year 2 like the Stars before they become good.

[@JewUnit6]

not even close, you guys need a goalie and youre a cup contender in my opinion. leafs are good but far from cup contender still

[@jessicaburbankhater]

JewUnit6 I'm comparing how they might develop. Similar things happened at different times for either franchise.

[@itsnothardev]

hi Nanda 😉

[@chandrumahadevan3188]

Hardev Lad oh man...

[@JHockeyFan]

😬😬😬

[@alexbabay86]

He get more money the john klingberg

[@HallowPena19]

ayeeeeee

[@tdemko30]

It's a bad deal

[@tylerjames8055]

gave you a thumbs down for saying things you should never ever say. other than that thumbs👍

[@joemixson4644]

Leaf nation needs to let team grow stop having so much expectation for this young team, we're not going to be a contender for another 2 - 3 years, our defence is trash let's be honest here

[@JewUnit6]

they performed pretty good for what we got but ya they are pretty bad in general. I completely agree that the weight of leaf nation not being on the teams shoulders this year allowed them to keep pushing. Once the expectations are raised again im not sure how they will handle bad games. Leafs nation needs to take a step back and be prepared for five years of pain.

[@Mohazah]

I LIKE CHEESE

[@kaprizov9765]

next to year zaicevs better this is a first season

[@Wet-Fartz]

Eric fehr can play centre he did in Pittsburg

[@i.fernandes]

I hope he does... in Vegas!

[@i.fernandes]

That I no longer care. Of all the exposed players we have, if Vegas takes Fehr or Lupul (yes Lupul can be taken) I'm happy! :)

[@rivahkillah]

He's gonna get better? Because he couldn't get much worse?

[@Blazecfc]

I don't think the leafs make the playoffs next season

[@mmmmlemons]

ouch that contract hurts

[@madmama61]

Honestly, how could anyone make the case zaitsev deserves this contract, will be an issue for the leafs in the years to come

[@JewUnit6]

we have 25 mill next year and about 10-15 tied up in players that will be gone in 2-3, cap space is not an issue and a 4.5 contract in 2017 is about the same as a 2.5 in 2007, you must update your reference point. 4.5 is not that bad in 2017, especially since you know its higher then it should be due to the russia factor, which has got to be worth a mill, so in essence he was signed for 3.5 a year with an extra mill to keep him in north america. Any russian players have this leverage now that the K is willing to pay top money for talent.

[@carlhedgins]

Wenger Out

[@hughjassole2268]

Leafs should trade a first round pick for Jacob Trouba

[@hughjassole2268]

BottleBoy yes

[@hughjassole2268]

BottleBoy yah

[@dghvdhfhhb6405]

Hugh Jassole Oh hell na we are fine