Zajef Viewer Would Not Play Rational

[@devam8192]

Shoutout to the guy that commented "Zajef viewer's play physical Xangling."

[@TherionX2.]

I don't get it

[@XLinkiboy]

Literally me rn. Phys pike xiangling is so satisfying

[@coffeemug1012]

@@TherionX2. people thought crecent pike phsyical xiangling was op back in 1.0

[@TherionX2.]

@@coffeemug1012 i did that too when i started in 2.1 because i read it on reddit lmao

[@sulaimanmhashim]

​@@coffeemug1012real ones remember

[@BulletSponge71436]

Zajef: "I'm in his floor!" Nuevillette: "That's right."

[@xanthee_imr]

The Dehya moment truly hurts, she’s definitely one of the characters of all times (even if she had an instructor build)

[@KHFreack]

its almost like building a unit for full reaction dmg and no personal dmg and doing no reactions will do shit dmg no matter the unit.

[@xanthee_imr]

@@KHFreack no, Raiden was full EM too but she would have killed the guy in a moment anyway because that’s an overworld basic enemy and Raiden’s multipliers aren’t complete garbage. That Dehya is also triple crowned btw

[@KHFreack]

@@xanthee_imr mate are you this foolish or what she also would have done next to no dmg if there arent any reactions her multipliers dont mean anything if you dont have any critvalue or atk% on her. The literal full em build Does not give you personal dmg on any character bar nahida and althaitham.

[@stevieveringus3857]

My friend is rocking that Dehya Burn Melt comp. He lost 50/50 to Zhongli, so used her in frustration. I used her as 4th member in hyperbloom team to break unicorn boss shield quickly in 12-1 . Too bad I don't need her actually, even for exploration comfort.

[@KHFreack]

@@stevieveringus3857 fair,she isnt a must have and if she isnt your thing thats fine. so long it works and is fun go nuts. i also use her in my hyperburgeon or overburn team. hybrid build with beacon and 3x em mainstats on gilded. works wonders,and ngl frontloading burgeons with her e cast and recast then switching to hyperblooms with kuki or dori is might stonks.

[@H0juma]

Zajef's laugh is literally breathtaking for me. It's quite contagious (at least for me) but I legit feel like I'm running out of air as I unconciously match his laugh.

[@BlueEyedWe1rd0]

its not just you trust

[@Yokie05]

Truee😭😭

[@incognitoman9420]

it also jumpscares you if you're watching him while playing

[@Syunye]

4:26 BRO I LEGIT NEVER KNEW IT SAID "Out of the frying pan, into the fire" I ALWAYS HEARD "I'm a frying pan into the fire"

[@4_rol4]

I thought it was "Add the frying pan into the fire" 😅

[@number-1-furina-fan]

I always thought she said “I’ll surprise them, into the fire!” which made me think she’d be throwing them into a cooking pot 😂 bad hearing moment ig

[@StanTheWoz]

Rational is like a good introductory meta team. It's strong and super easy to play but yeah it does have a lot of disadvantages against enemies that can be knocked back. I've mostly switched to Raiden Hyper with Bennett and Kazuha at this point, which has been better in AoE even at C0R0. Rational did get me my first 36 star abyss clear though, so I gotta give it props

[@ei-chan8929]

When I got raiden, I was kinda bored of hu tao so I paired xq bennet and jean with her and I cant tell you how fun and sustainable the team is. ( yes even after 3 years i dont have kazuha for hyper carry raiden) The oly hyper carry raiden I play is with c6r5 sucrose with hakushin ring which provides the same 40% electro damage bonus as c0 kazuha or that's what i think.

[@Senorgato029]

Zajeffs xiangling impersonation sounds more like Mickey Mouse than anything

[@phoenixlau]

I rarely play Rational anymore, because Raiden is always on hyperbloom duty. It was REALLY good for slaughtering robots in Wenut Abyss though. All the stuff about knockback was rendered moot, full benefit of seamless chain rotations back to back for

[@anonymoususer7286]

Yeah rational retired Because C2 achieved

[@sweetsurrender815]

I'd rather use Rational and cookie on the other side

[@coupdata7]

Truly a dehya moment

[@KHFreack]

truly a full em build moment

[@Gonshaaa]

​@@KHFreackcope

[@KHFreack]

@@Gonshaaa cope

[@alpha4935]

​@@KHFreackcope

[@KHFreack]

@@alpha4935 eh dont need to rather work with facts then feelings sorry mate.

[@Yusanis]

Still gives me 36* to this day, in the end that's all that matters

[@AbsoleonDisaster]

That was the best impression of Mickey Mouse I've ever heard! Really impressive stuff!

[@poochycosme]

5:12 the sorry after saying something confirms that Zyox is influencing you

[@mattythefinger]

The difference between Neuvilette and Dehya damage is ridiculous 😢

[@ame5851]

One is built dmg, one is built full em.

[@alsonaarif7367]

Kazuha with Em build still one shot him with one E

[@dylanhicks4771]

Kazuha scales with em rofl

[@mattythefinger]

@@ame5851 Thank you, I didn't realize EM build. Still, I'm looking at my crowned Deyha crit build (VGlow artifacts) damage and it's decent--but still not Neuvillette level...maybe half-way there. I have Neuv and I still like Dehya's playstyle better.

[@alpha4935]

​@@dylanhicks4771​ Kazuha's talent damage still scales on ATK until C6 that adds EM scaling to his Normal, Charged and Plunging Attacks.

[@marcusshane]

Not me just realising I'm supposed to N2C with Hu Tao and not just charged atk 😅

[@blaze8308]

Just spam Charge attacks as Hu Tao always does a NA before Charge attacking 🤣

[@marcusshane]

@@blaze8308 Yeah that's N1C, I've been doing that and I'm supposed to be using N2C which is 1 normal atk and charged after that, so it's 2 normal atks + charged atk.

[@NathanNGM]

Dude SAAAME. I don't like her kit but got her and her weapon lvl'd. Just started playing her recently so I felt dumb as rocks when I realized I was only doing N1C.

[@marcusshane]

@@NathanNGM can't lie it's a little diff to pull off N2C and cancel consistently..

[@georgezhang1573]

@@marcusshanethe damage difference is honestly not that big, the main difference is that n2c has more consistent vapes(iirc) and more stamina saved for dash cancels for other units or dodging.

[@SeaSerpent.]

13:10 You can see the moment where he processes the words that came out of his mouth

[@Tovy]

Truly a burgeon Dehya moment

[@sonadowfiend]

Honestly have used Rational in every single Abyss and Combat Event since I got Raiden built back in 2.Something, and that shows no signs of stopping. I'm actually looking to finally get C6 Raiden Shogun, currently C4. If the devs weren't stubbornly refusing to add in some Artifact Load-outs then I'd give EM Raiden a chance, but I'm not gonna sit there and hunt through my Artifacts every time I want to switch a character's build around.

[@sonadowfiend]

@spidebot3045 Raiden Hypercarry might be a better Team, but I honestly cannot be bothered to build Sara. Xingqiu, Xiangling, and Bennett have many other Teams they can be slot into, Sara hardly has any. I could build her now, considering that I've run out of units to build (or at least units I have any intention of ever using), but I can't find the desire to bother; Rational and my Dilucopium Team get 36 Stars on nearly every Abyss cycle, and in the rare instance where they can't? It just doesn't matter; the only difference between 33 and 36 Stars is a mere 50K Mora and 50 Primogems! If my calculations are correct, then that difference would amount to a grand total of 15 Wishes over the course of two *years* of real-world time. Since the actual game isn't getting any more difficult as time goes on, and the Spiral Abyss isn't getting better rewards as time goes on, *and* there is no AR 60 Only game mode that offers new rewards, Genshin has unfortunately failed to present me with any reason to keep expanding my account's roster or arsenal. I spent all my stockpiled Wishes on Yelan's recent-ish re-run, and haven't Wished since. I haven't even spent Resin in almost two weeks, because I finally don't have any characters who need to farm Artifacts. Hoyo always seems eager to pander to new players, and staunchly against there being anything to reward veteran players with beyond yet more new units. It just feels like there should be something more to this game than Primogems, Mora, Enhancement Ore, Hero's Wits, and Talent Books. Everything feeds into the idea of "you always have a new character you just got, or are about to get"; there's nothing here for when you're satisfied with the characters you already have invested into.

[@8ig0r86]

A true Zajef viewer would rather play Thundering Furry than Rational

[@ronnorhgih3265]

me: a zajef viewer that lays rational all the time

[@alexliengsky6884]

Ever since 3.0, I haven't really used Xiangling or National other than the Wenut Abyss and even then I failed at getting 36-stars. Nowadays I use the same core members of Rational but with Nahida instead of Xiangling. I call it Dendrational.

[@sauravthegreat]

Honestly Raiden-Miko aggravate and Raiden onfield quickbloom gets better ST clear times for me than Rational, honestly i would save my Bennet for some other team

[@iyxon]

Strongest Dehya:

[@oscarrickyh02]

"Dehya can beat me up (it wont hurt)"

[@CukiCookie]

Zajef viewers only use Raiden’s E in very certain (hyperbloom) situations

[@Bittexu]

Dehya C6 R5 moment

[@piolit06]

I play Rational because I like Raiden

[@Konomidebanshouwashikisesur]

Just play Hypercarry at that point

[@mr.johnkun2827]

i gladly play Rational. its my most invested team and i dont have problems with it. It's a GREAT TEAM to play.

[@MojtaAS]

idk how zajef calls out rational on being bad against enemies that get knocked back but always praises thundering furry even tho it has the same problem personally i wouldn't play any of them anymore cuz better teams exist and easier to play and group enemies

[@Nadi-Ger]

I did try Rational with Fav and TotM, but I didn't like to spend time to burst with Raiden, so now she's a complete E-bot. I DPS with Bennett, XL has EL so I don't have to switch to her for battery-ing ;)

[@Heliotropic95]

Raiden has been an EM/Dendro slave ever since the element came out...

[@undeniablySomeGuy]

lmao true once i understood how to play sucrose national i don't look back. I don't even use it on Simon

[@Fiction-pg7tp]

My dinner is attacking me 💀

[@akvirr7102]

Now i realised why most of the enemy from inazuma was unventiable. It is bcuz if they were, rational would be unplayable cuz overload would keep pushing them away

[@ShinySwalot]

For the first time I've seen some of the stuff in this video live already wow

[@granthiksharma4626]

I MONKA PLAY ALL VARIATION OF NATIONL. when xq is not free but need AOE = international. when xq free = Vanillas national. when bored and floor requires both AOE and single target, place c3 ei = rational. if needed reverse melt add rozy/ kaeya= meltnational . Some times even Educational

[@greenvega]

Grass burning dmg do more dmg than dehya? Nothing new

[@KHFreack]

if you dehya is on shit build,true.

[@greenvega]

@@KHFreack my dehya still not exist..

[@KHFreack]

@@greenvega yet.

[@judeseminio1432]

@@KHFreack his dehya is triple crowned lvl 90. She should ATLEAST kill a treasure hoarder with 1/4 hp remaining in open world with her full burst.

[@KHFreack]

@@judeseminio1432 not if shes on a full em build with like a lvl 1 weapon.

[@eugoo007]

3:12 Sounds like mikey mouse to me rather than xiangling

[@tranquilviewsf]

xiangling is mickey mouse

[@poochycosme]

11:20 Isn't the em multiplier for multiplicative reactions 2.78*em/(em*+1400)+1 and not 16/9*em/1601+1 ?

[@gustavocastro5194]

Average Dehya

[@lynsmanz384]

Its kinda funny how all Dehya players come to the same conclusion: its either monopyro or hyperburgeon. Also as soon as I got c2 Dehya I thought, "she's going to be perfect with Neuvillete"

[@nightday2030]

Don't forget to double tap E her field will last for 18s now you have C2

[@CastielReborn]

As a Zajeff viewer I can confirm we still Play Rational 😤

[@glowtz]

I'm an avid Zajef viewer & this is true

[@AdrasAdraki]

By putting him out of his misery did he mean Deyha? I think that only brought her more misery if anything.

[@smugigante7312]

3:42 this is weird cause i went to check if that's true on my genshin and the voicelines played fine when i turned music volume to zero and it is correctly under dialogue volume, so i guess zaj's game just bugged at that specific moment i guess

[@yahikonightray5398]

How many zajef vids do i need to watch before I see furina pre release vid

[@Niky_Blox]

Thank you for sharing the pain for counting in English 😞✊ now I don't feel so alone

[@Daivd1111]

I have to use micro mouse to play Hutao, even set a button just called 'Hutao" with 0.4s right chick +0.1s spacekey.

[@CreationsFlare]

Guys if I were to go Raiden Aggravate, who should be stronger at decent investment: a C6 Sara or a C6 Fischl?

[@marqkc]

If C0 Raiden, C6 Fischl is going to be better than C6 Sara any day. With cons, I'm not exactly sure who is better for Aggrevate... But at that point, you can slot in whoever you like more and still clear content with ease so it doesn't really matter lmao

[@nonamepasserbya6658]

C6 Kuki. her dmg is best for Aggravate

[@Zorlexon]

I tried a bunch of teams with Raiden as she is my favorite character and I really like her. Aggravate (Fischl, Yaoyao, Kazuha), Taser (Xingqiu, Fischl, Jean), AlmostHyperCarry (Bennett, Kazuha, Yelan) with all 5* at c0... but Rational is so B A D. I really don't like it, while I enjoy all her other teams, expecially aggravate.

[@mattythefinger]

Agreed; I can't make Rational work and I don't know why. Everyone's crowned too.

[@nonamepasserbya6658]

@@mattythefinger Rational is there to feed Xiangling. If you run International you need better funnel/ER rolls. That's the only reason why Rational was used before Abyss dmg floor shot up so high

[@mattythefinger]

@nonamepasserbya6658 thank you. It seems I just can't tune my Xiangling stats correctly--i know shes not mid, but she feels mid. I'll figure her out someday lol

[@Rachitdubey]

It's so stupid to look down on players for playing a particular unit or a team. 😂😂

[@hexaquras9374]

5:42 that's some CS level glitching

[@miranolastname2366]

Xiangling become Mickey Mouse HAHAHAHAHA

[@NathanNGM]

What DOES Boucicaut have in his Bouci?!

[@yani-madara2835]

Sounds more like Mickey Mouse than Xiangling

[@DeVoidAS]

Rational is IRRATIONAL

[@otryhxrd]

Music volume really????? Its porbably only for 1.0 character right

[@Anthony-tu9sq]

i dont have yelan for double hydro hu tao team. with c1 r1 homa i wonder which one perform better between vv vape or xq furina jean vape team

[@pronoun171]

Rational is Literally known as one of the best teams for single target, and if you have a brain you can position yourself to not blow characters away, but lets just ignore that because reasons

[@YungXin]

hyperbloom begs to differ lol

[@soroushkowsarian3364]

​@@YungXin hyperbloom has damage ceiling for cores, once you get that 32k, you generally won't go above that.

[@jsw973]

MUSIC VOLUME LMAO

[@swiftgoose09]

Tbh ever since I started watching Zajef i stopped playing rayional

[@Kirito_wr]

Assuming 4 5 stars per team rational is the strongest team in the game

[@William-Sunderland]

Dehya:

[@wilburforce8046]

The beginning sounded Sus.

[@Nutrino259]

My raiden hypercarry is still best///

[@sanderpotsepp7603]

Is it bad that I have Level 50 Bennett withe Level 20 Aquila Favonia, XL level 50 and Sucrose level 50-60 (I don’t remember). I have played GI over one year and have watched Zajef about half a year and have not mist a upload.

[@overscore2097]

Enjoy the game however way you want. Nothing matters except getting the characters you desire most.

[@pet_r_o_c_k]

i assume you are a man of flaming uploads then

[@syarifht5929]

If u follow meta yes, if u follow ur heart no

[@TerraTheWise]

Only one year? That’s fine then.

[@blasianking4827]

Depends what you wanna do in the game. Meta wise, Bennett's pretty important for a good amount of teams though there are lots of non-Bennett teams these days. If you don't care about that then, well, do what you want

[@alatusnms]

feels weird how this is one of the rarest time where ive seen some of these clips live. i dont play rational because it feels clunky to me, im always struggling for energy and the dps window feels so small. skill issue on my part mayhaps, but i find it harder to play than other national variants. out of the variants i personally prefer kazunational but i have a bias towards kazuha so thats why i use it over others

[@planetary-rendez-vous]

Zajef is French? Holy

[@EarlyMean2772]

So xiangling

[@mismagia]

rational doesnt feel anywhere near as fun to play as hyperbloom is

[@Tai-Lung]

I pulled for raiden and yae when they got released but i never used them in abyss til now. Please suggest me a good team for raiden other than hyperbloom and rational

[@pet_r_o_c_k]

a eula team

[@Limen2402]

Aggravate

[@brick0brickx711]

You can try mono electo in which can use both yae and raiden. For mono electo you can go with raiden , yae , kujou Sara, and the last slot can be Bennett, Jean or Kazuha based on if you want more damage, or if you want more survivability Yae is really good for aggravate, where she can be used with fischl, nahida/yaoyao/baizhu/dmc and Kazuha/Sucrose. Lastly they can be used in a taser comp with a hydro and anemo unit

[@yuvx8516]

Hyperbloom but on regular build.

[@sauravthegreat]

You want to use both together? Raiden-Yae-KazuhaSucrose-Yaoyao/Baizhu/Kirara As a hyperbloom trigger Or something like Nahida-Kokomi-Yae-EM Raiden

[@tesseract3891]

Man 14 mins of zajeff is just not enough. Regardless love your vids

[@ponderingfox]

My rational is Raiden, Kazuha, XL, Bennett. I clear with it every time. The grouping is nice.

[@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58]

Kazuha overload dmg is pretty high as well

[@chuckguy120]

I think it's called soup team. There are other variant using ayato and fischl instead of raiden and xingqiu

[@rafael_lana]

​@@chuckguy120soup always has hydro, the one he mentions is more a variation of national, Bennet XL with vape. But national is too much of an umbrella term, thanks to the chinese community always pushing a national team in every gacha, even if it's not of chinese inspired chars.

[@chuckguy120]

@@rafael_lana oh yeah my bad I misread he wrote XL not XQ I'm dummy dum

[@ponderingfox]

@@rafael_lana Yeah, mine is a variant. I can drop in XQ if I need to. But I usually run XQ in double hydro hyperbloom.

[@SleepyKurisu]

I'm a zajeff viewer that plays rational (I just don't feel like playing cyno or keqing when ik they're actually more fun) I do play weird characters though, like agg Kaveh for example

[@stakcdn1]

You don’t play rational bc overload is annoying, I don’t play rational bc I hate xiangling. We are not the same

[@XLinkiboy]

In which stream did he do neuvi quest?

[@episode4882]

It’s the 5hr one from 5 days ago, but that stream when he did the quest literally exposes this guy probly only has 1 friend he can talk to, and that’s zyox. And definitely hates watching movies

[@IDKbruh420]

It was miserable just like every other time that he does quests, i like the guy but holy shoot he is insufferable while doing quests

[@IDKbruh420]

​@@episode4882what's wrong with only having 1 friend exactly ? "Exposed" like why say it like that

[@episode4882]

@@IDKbruh420 not the type of guy u want to hang around IRL, as a a steamer he provides clown content, so it’s funny

[@minatoarisato7652]

I'd steer clear of anything this guy does outside of an excel sheet. I saw him play the final Sumeru archon quest, and it was the last story related anything from him that I'd ever watch. The man is unbearable. The uploader to this channel probably realizes that too, which is why you don't see any of story clip reacts.

[@NoahSteel-wx8ry]

@6:25 Seriously though, who practices combos? 😅 Other than Zaj, of course …

[@wideozludrawz]

people with c0 hu taos? good riddance if u try her without jump cancels in abyss. also klee players and kokomi players and in general people who care about a good/optimal performance of their characters. keep in mind you are watching a theory crafter

[@TheNman_Val]

Me that knows better but plays rational anyways because zero thinky

[@sailorenthusiast]

I actually tried to play rational for a bit. It might’ve just been that my artifacts weren’t the greatest, but I just didn’t like playing it. I ended up swapping round to Yelanfire (Raiden, Yelan, Kazu and Bennett) because it just felt nicer to play.

[@connerjessop8422]

I forget how awful c0 hu Tao plays

[@cypureisreallybusy]

am i the only one plays nahida national

[@phoenixlau]

In general the dendro will grief your Xiangling, blocking her from vaping. Good for specific scenarios where you need all the elements, e.g. Baptist with three different shields.

[@rafael_lana]

In the lower floors my favorite team is Raiden Nahida XL Kazuha. Would be horrible in floor 12, but it's so fast and easy on weaker enemies, the non vaping XL doesn't even matter.

[@tama2774]

The roster is stacked already if player still play national to this day as their primary team means that the player doesnt improve at all

[@musicaddict9058]

International is still one of the best speedrunning teams in the game at low cost. It's also the team that has stood the test of time the best. Like, the last upgrade international got was kazuha in 1.6, and it wasn't even that big of an upgrade, and it's still up there with the best teams in the game 2 years later. Compare it to hu tao who got like 3-4 upgrades in the past 2 years. If hu tao had remained in a double geo bro gang, she would have been out of meta at this point.

[@sulaimanmhashim]

Bro doesn't know...

[@tama2774]

@@musicaddict9058 low cost what? C2 Kaz + FS, Homa/EL on XL, Aqua/TP/Polar on Childd and mistplitter Benny or lucked out aquilla. The F2P version (Aka the actual low cost version of that team) is very far behind than speedruning scenario and you probably needs alot of retrying again. If you want to get the job done better play hyperbloom, the actual low cost consistent spiral abyss beater team Its still a good team at actual low cost level but the number of investment to get the level to its reputation is similar to pulling bunch of new C0 5 stars for othrr team comps

[@musicaddict9058]

@@tama2774 What you described is still low cost in speedrunning community. Also, retrying is standard practice in speedrunning regardless of the team you are using. Sounds like you need to get informed more on the topic.

[@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58]

​@@musicaddict9058Emblem set in 2.0 Engulfing & The Catch in 2.1 Polar Star in 2.2

[@firose1971]

EM Raiden 😂😂

[@Ph42oN]

I've seen too much rational gameplay because freaking everyone plays it. That makes it propably the most boring team to see. Never gonna pull raiden BTW.

[@RaghvendraSingh-nw5dw]

I have stopped myself from pulling Hu Tao until I see what the Pyro Archon can do. Pyro archon's got to be a better DPS

[@jackson3475]

Eh, Raiden is a FavGe downgrade.

[@reedsad4652]

Skill issue lmao

[@wiwiwowo1]

Zajef says things like "Rational is not a good team" then expects people to take his takes seriously. For people who are gonna be white knights, i don't like raiden at all but that take is just false. The "you can battery her with someone else instead of her field time" was such a bad example i cant even get my head around it LOL.

[@expeditor5895]

my brother, if you want to quote something quote it right. He didnt say rational is not a good team. He said its good, just has some situations where its cringe to play.

[@wiwiwowo1]

@@expeditor5895 he legit says that it is not a good team in the video bro.

[@expeditor5895]

@@wiwiwowo1 can you give the time stamp?

[@mkultra1726]

I’m pretty sure that’s true; you can just stay on bennett to funnel particles to xiangling instead of having raiden take field time (it raises XQ ER reqs, but most ppl don’t optimize artifacts that much). It’s only when you have someone like childe that batterying becomes a little awkward (even then, not really).

[@wiwiwowo1]

@@mkultra1726 You really dont understand that you are losing on field damage while funneling the energy because you are not doing batterying + damage at the same time? i swear to god stop believing everything so blindly.

[@xinlou6707]

Well being a meta slave in a single player game is sad

[@reactiondavant-garde3391]

National not even fun, I hate how I have to funnel energy for Xiangling even with 220-240% ER. Terrible.

[@XLinkiboy]

Literally why are you here then xD. Or are you saying you're talkinga bout yourself as well xD

[@thanatos7085]

Imagine being a guy who decides that certain way of enjoying the game is sad

[@theguardintemriel]

"Well being a meta slave in a single player is sad" > watched zajef anyway

[@musicaddict9058]

What's more sad is simping for anime pixels and thinking you are superior to people that just like big numbers lmao

[@AirwickM]

Dehyapression

[@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58]

Unpopular opinion: Fav > Catch on Raiden Ehh since I'm in Zajef's comment section it's not that unpopular i guess

[@TerraTheWise]

It’s not an unpopular opinion it’s just simply a bad one. 0 reason to run raiden on fav since she actually wants to do decent damage. Can literally run it on anyone else.

[@tasha2749]

​@@TerraTheWisequite decent in rational team where more than half the damage came from your off fielder, it will reduce their er so low that you can run 0er on xl and xinqiu, will it better tha using offensive weapon? Depends on your investment, will it work? Hell yeah, i accidentally run fav raiden on national and its clear about the same time with catch but my xl always have her burst up even if you clear the chamber in 8s

[@ooochoa]

I like fav on Raiden when I hsve use the catch on XL.

[@TerraTheWise]

@@tasha2749 Xingqiu in rational already has very low er costs with or without fav. It’s why you run an offensive weapon on him like jade cutter. XL still has a decent amount of er requirements but I run no fav in that team and get her burst up every rotation with only 190% er which is easily achievable even without funneling particles from Bennett. Never once have I felt the need for a favonius in rational it’s just overkill on energy and lower damage.

[@tasha2749]

@@TerraTheWise i mean 140% er still considerable amount of er if u want to get it purely by substat, most of the time when u run jade xq u ended up with 4eosf + 20% er subs or 4no + er sand while if u use raiden fav u can go 4no xq with 20-30% er from sub and play instructor bennet to further boost xl damage, will it better than running 3 eosf character? Probably not. Can it compete if u only have 1 catch? Absolutely

[@FARIS-cw6vf]

This guy hate everything in this world, always had negative opinion about everything