Maxx M4W mtw hop-up setup & range test and in-depth talk! (It's AMAZING) PART 2/2

[@kaslab]

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[@SiliconeSword]

I'm glad to get a solid baseline for accuracy as I always thought that my guns were not that accurate, but it seems like we are both getting realistic results, not 100/100 shots on a cereal box at 90m.

[@kaslab]

I try to keep things real when I do these videos, like only showing fact's and not sharing my "own opinion" to much since it does not matter if the data dont back it.

[@Reapah-MC]

Wickid vid brother very helpful !! Thankyou ! Love that you keep it 💯 homie no bullshit !! Big up Kaslab 🤜🤛🎯

[@kaslab]

Thanks mate glad you like the video, and thanks for the support man!

[@TXC-kr4yq]

my mtw had a problem with the outer barrel and the inner barrel. There was a little play and that caused the inner barrel to wobble. Fixed it with some tape. That made the accuracy better

[@kaslab]

Glad you fixed it 🤌🏻👍🏻

[@franciscojavieramezcuafern1209]

I "think" that when you set up/change the hop Up you have to do at least 15 shots to let It do the work properly and after that you can take in account the results. Good video.

[@kaslab]

glad you liked it!

[@impactrenoairsoft7383]

When doing tests like this, I would suggest utilizing a low variable power optic of at least 6x or use a glow shot reactive target so you can see hits at distance ;) you can really track bbs at distance with a 1-6x scope. Thx for the testing though!

[@kaslab]

Hey this will happen in the future, since I started working with Vortex.

[@impactrenoairsoft7383]

@@kaslab oh excellent I’ll suggest the viper 1-6x :) unless you want to go big and get the razor 1-10 $$$

[@kaslab]

@@impactrenoairsoft7383 Im more like a strike eagle my self ;)

[@Manson_Airsoft]

nice video! all ml buckings working without problems in my stock unit with silent industries arm and a davinci barrle. thx for the work and greez from germany

[@kaslab]

hey mate your welcome, glad the video is helping people out there ;)!

[@christopherhayto1089]

Great testing, i have tried stock and phoenix unit i had ML silicone buckings of all patch shapes all jam, can't wait for maxx unit as my MTW seems very sensitive to changing hop rubbers, something to note about mtw in billet gen 2 hop unit they have rotational play in the hop unit to outer barrel a few degree's i shimmed mine with electric tape to stop hop unit rotating stop potential flyers

[@kaslab]

thanks much appricated, and that's a good trick!

[@FatalPrescription]

Assuming this is around the front where it plugs into the upper?

[@christopherhayto1089]

@@FatalPrescription yes there's a slot in outer barrel which hop unit slides into

[@DgR1716]

Great vid, 👍 I did have to watch about 55 ads tho 😭

[@kaslab]

glad you liked the video, and yeah sorry, gotta turn on those adds, the amount of time and money I spend on those test videos are crazy :D

[@DgR1716]

I can appreciate that, this type of video is very needed in airsoft as I tech my own airsoft toy guns also and always running into some sort of problem, so to see a vid on upgrading along with problems, different set up’s and solutions is great info, so thanks for the content 👊

[@kaslab]

@@DgR1716 thanks, that means a lot 🤌🏻👌🏻👍🏻

[@airsoft.hummer]

Thanks for sharing this in-depth test! For sure it was interesting how results are without wind, but that's mostly not the case on the field anyway. Btw, what barrel was it you're using? And with what inner diameter? Thanks kaslab!

[@kaslab]

Hey hummer, I used the stock MTW barrel and the madbull barrel, but currently I use umbrella armory eu R-hopped barrel + their bucking in the m4w which is VERY nice

[@airsoft.hummer]

@@kaslab Ay, thanks =) Not familiar with the stock barrel unfortunately. But yes, I watched one of your vids about you getting into rhapsodies about the umbrella setup :3 Sounded very nice indeed. Thanks also for putting up a discount code for us! I'll be glad about when going shopping at UA.

[@kaslab]

@@airsoft.hummer ofc, that's the least they can do you know! :D

[@Airsofthelpvancouver1963]

If I can recommend something if you used heavier BB's like I do use a flat hop or better yet this is my combo Prometheus flat purple bucking and nub, s-hop and using a pdi barrel on I'm getting incredible range and accuracy that grouping is mine at 150ft maximum range 300ft my normal range with best long range results is 250ft depending on the weather 265.

[@Affenkopf]

Hey man u did a great testing there. May i ask u what suppressor ur using most of the time? What inserts are the best for the job?

[@kaslab]

Old video I don’t know sorry, also it was just some random no name suppressor..

[@Affenkopf]

@@kaslab No problem. But what is ur favourite suppressor atm?

[@kaslab]

@@Affenkopf I use the same as when I started, got two random ones, both got foam in them, they’re not very silent, just made to sound good to be on video. They’re shown in my KZbin shorts here : Can you silence a HPA? kzbin.infoMLZHWM8myMc?feature=share hope it helps a little.

[@Sgt.Animal.Mother]

Change barrel or stock? How long is the barrel for the mtw 308 ? Want m4w maxx hp + Maple Leaf Super Macaron 70°. Thx

[@kaslab]

I don’t have a 308 mtw.. If you’re buying a new then Keep it stock for a while and use heavy BBs.. that’s the best upgrade you can do :) but the setup you say is good for heavy BBs 👍🏻

[@markoveljkovic3277]

Hiii Kaslab, can you make video regarding bucking's, what * on maple mean what and the difference, for hpa and aeg guns? Thanks

[@kaslab]

HPA and AEG is the same no difference in buckings.. Its just about what fits in the hop unit and barrel combo your using. I can think about it, but not sure i can add much to the subject.

[@GP-jh6ti]

You should show us a chrony test because I'm wonder how much variation you have which can explain unregulated shoots. I have two MTW with 2 differents setup one have only max 2fps of variation on the other 7-8 fps of variation. My best result is with 60° red madbull with phoenix hop up. I tried many maple leaf but never get good result

[@kaslab]

Thanks 👍🏻

[@strike_airsoft6100]

Okay... I am getting one 100% this is fucking sick!

[@kaslab]

I love mine!

[@jimfowler4924]

Thanks for the video, it was very informative. One question though because I don't think you mentioned it, what weight bb are you using for the tests please?

[@kaslab]

Glad you liked the video! took a lot of work even though its so scuffed haha... But it says in the corner of the video, but I use .36's for all of it.

[@jimfowler4924]

@@kaslab thank you, I watched the video on my phone and can't read the text on the screen. Appreciate you replying so quickly 🙂

[@kaslab]

@@jimfowler4924 No worries, and fair point I gotta think about that for next time! and ofc I love to answer comments ;)!

[@Airsofthelpvancouver1963]

That's quite hot no mind you I live in Canada we are allowed up to 1.5 joules for cqb and up to 1.8 joules for dmr with 0.20s.

[@kaslab]

doing crono with .20's is a very outdated method, and can result in a lot of cheating/juelcreep.. but Denmark is known for very high jules.. we're allowed 2.89J DMR and 3-5J snipers ;)

[@bupamania]

Hej Kaslab, very nice comparsion! I wonder whats your oppinion on the MTW Alpha Hopup from Silent Industries vs the M4W ?

[@kaslab]

I use m4w in all my mtws,

[@TurbodTV]

What wheel setting number do you use for the 25 meter and 50 meter target?

[@kaslab]

This video is old I do not know sorry.

[@screamified409]

Weird the stock hop didn't work with 70° ml bucking, i have a totally stock hop up with the said bucking and snipetor concave nub, it shoots like a dream the only thing i have is that the gun sometimes underhops or its because the fps is just less every now and then. Only got the mtw recently so still working out the little problems.

[@kaslab]

yeah I don't know, my mtw is old AF... maybe the unit is starting to show it's age ;)!

[@xiaofanxu5770]

Try to search HOW TO ADJUST THE DWELL OF MTW on KZbin, your problem sounds like a dwell problem. Hope this helps you

[@markuslinde484]

Thanks for the testing! What innerbarrel did you use for the tests?

[@kaslab]

I use the stock barrel, and a madbull stainless steel barrel, same result pretty much.

[@justairsoft]

@@kaslab you should try the pdi 6.01 barrel..you‘ll see a difference like day and night

[@kaslab]

@@justairsoft nah mate, I used PDI barrels, I used like 10 different barrels, they're kinda the same, as long as the barrel window fit's and the polish is half decent we good.

[@justairsoft]

@@kaslab Okay, but me and all my friends had different experiences with pdi barrels. I also tried stock, Madbull and Lambda barrels and from all of them the pdi barrel showed by far the best results. No matter if the MTW or any other airsoft replica.

[@alexdaly2858]

Maxx take my money now!!

[@kaslab]

haha ;D

[@imflud]

i have a 1st gen mtw and I have so many feeding issues, I even tried shaving down an advanced feed tube to fit and still having issues. Any fixes please?

[@kaslab]

* answerd on discord*

[@Reapah-MC]

Yesss !!!!!!

[@kaslab]

yeeeeeeeeeeees brooooooooooooo!

[@pillea930]

I have feeding problems with the m4w Hop Up but i dont know what the Problem is😅

[@kaslab]

You use EPM1 mags?

[@jakeoakley424]

What weight bb and joules was the test conducted using?

[@kaslab]

it says in the corner of the video for each part ; )

[@kev1n-mrairsoft]

What about the Invictus Phoenix Hop? Does is shoot like the Maxx Up?

[@kaslab]

The maxx works better for me, since it's super easy to set up.

[@kev1n-mrairsoft]

@@kaslab Do you need to hold the maxx up unit to avoid "wappling" or something? Silent industries is Selling a Adapter für 4,50€

[@kaslab]

@@kev1n-mrairsoft Nope never had any issues.

[@syncFIN]

Why didnt you compare it to phoenix hop? I thought you have had best results with phoenix this far.

[@kaslab]

Phoenix and stock preforms the same on semi for me. Phoenix uses a little less air also.

[@Courtesyflush52]

To comment on your disclaimer at the beginning, anyone can call themselves an 'airsoft tech'. There's no certification or training. It's just anyone who messes around with airsoft guns and some are just more skilled than others. So you don't have to worry

[@kaslab]

I prefer it that way, so people won't be toools and if they are I can just say... He look at the disclaimer ; )

[@Airsofthelpvancouver1963]

Hey so 1.69 joules with 0.36 or 1.69 at 0.20 then using 0.36?

[@kaslab]

1,69J with .36's.. In denmark we only crono with the bb's you use in game.. So you wont get people who try to cheat the system.

[@robertwestermeier7301]

Can you ad in discription which ML (Macaron or Super Mac...) an which maxx Tensioners you used?

[@kaslab]

would be smart to do actually ima do it right now.. but for you I used both Maple leaf supermacroon 60 and 70* and the best nub from the maxx m4w hop unit for me was the square flat nub.

[@MartinJHarris]

would this be the same with just AEG no HPA..?

[@kaslab]

I mean this hop unit is only for the MTW.. but they have one for normal style AEG hop-unit that does that same ;)

[@Rezer0554]

how good is the flat hop on this thing?

[@kaslab]

Amazing tbh.. 75 meters 8/10 hits its very good to me at low jules.

[@snabelentertainment8689]

I what to use a cross fire on my ics gun that is werry nice

[@kaslab]

gl bro

[@balutraildog6692]

Nice one...Abo ✌

[@kaslab]

Thanks 🤘🔥👍

[@thatguy7127]

I have 4 emp1 mags and none feed right same symptoms

[@kaslab]

It's not the mags, it was the bucking setup, that doesn't work for me.

[@thatguy7127]

@@kaslab did you do anything to wear your in?

[@kaslab]

@@thatguy7127 I have heard there is a million problems, I am going to move over to the new gen PTS mags prob.

[@Tim0xyz.]

Which nub did you use in the Maxx with the ML 70* ? 😂

[@kaslab]

This was with the square nub it comes with.

[@Tim0xyz.]

@@kaslab did u Test the concave nun already ? Heard good things About it :)

[@kaslab]

@@Tim0xyz. Is the square nub was better for me since I use r-hop now.

[@ironhulk1979]

Think 70deg is too hard and never had good results with a super macaron i have tried the 70 degree macaron with the stock unit i did not have feeding problems but groupings where terrible

[@kaslab]

Not to me, it works amazing at 1,69 jules with .36's ;)

[@christopherhayto1089]

my mtw seems to hate any ML rubber

[@alexdaly2858]

@@christopherhayto1089 mines happy with a 60 deg MR 2021

[@christopherhayto1089]

@@alexdaly2858 i had mr 60 silicone in jammed, mr hop normal rubber just not good accuracy bucking lips on new silicone version are so much tighter

[@alexdaly2858]

I hope it runs ok today then, or I will put the blue macron back in....

[@gunner-vo7ig]

This 70* Maple Laef is to Hard. Better for HPA is the Super Macaron 60* Yellow

[@kaslab]

I dont agree, with my setup, and in a "inferno gen 2" the ML SM 70* fits better at 1.69J with .40's which I use.. It last longer, and shoot's longer, but 60* could work better for you who knows ; )

[@sonnsobek7633]

Make more videos bro 🔥 👌 Get like get coment on this ! Airsoft Beast sport ewer ! ✨🔥 ✊What you mean about me airsoft videos ?

[@Terminatorbart]

Bucking too long, just cut it! 😁

[@kaslab]

I mean sure, but this was about drop-in not modding the buckings.