Star Fox 2 - Hard Mode run on SNES Hardware (1/24/1995 CES Build)

[@J-Wolf17FTW]

This is one of the coolest thing period. At last the documentation Star Fox 2's development is complete. It's also neat seeing that old version of Meteor.

[@skycladangel1674]

Nearly complete! We still haven't found the November 1994 build nor any possible builds between CES and May 1995 showing the progressional changes from here to the near final build.

[@Moonlow.]

I like how the game is complete somehow. The game has more content than the final release.

[@EmergencyChannel]

This game is amazing given the limitations of the hardware.

[@a.p.6350]

The CES version has more StarFox Vibes than the one we got on Snes mini. Also, i like the fact that the gamrplay speed is "fixed". In the final version the movements felt sloppy and sped up. Here it is slower and more realistically feeling, like it has been on SF 1

[@RoseSupreme]

Damn... that cutscene of Fay's Walker jumping onto Miyu's Arwing for a ride was epic. I don't think that was in the final game...

[@PikangsFutaba]

I was about to say that, and no, that planet leave outro was not in the final version and it's respective prototype.

[@RoseSupreme]

@@PikangsFutaba This prototype seemed just about right. All it needed was the final/late beta Andross battle and we would've been absolutely golden.

[@Metalwario64]

@@RoseSupreme And Star Wolf. I actually think this build has some really cool ideas, art and concepts that should have remained in the final. However, there's also the lack of bosses (I think Mirage Dragon isn't even in, even though it's in the intro). I think an earlier proto has the bosses which were in the final, but they made them into a big event. This build has music for them, but no bosses themselves. I wish the planet bosses had more of a presence in the final than just reusing the base core battles over and over again. It's clear here that Meteor was the basis for all of the planets having bases. In a way, if it was the only level structured like this, it would have been more "special" and unique. I'm still VERY happy with the final product though.

[@lain328]

@@RoseSupreme What if the final battle is actually in the game and Nintendo just disabled it to give it more of a demo feel. If that is the case I would love to see someone re-enable it.

[@PikangsFutaba]

@@lain328 Andross fight is in the prototype (in the hidden test menu, you enter said option by selecting the stereo/mono audio option), but during his 3rd phase you cannot keep going once you destroy his hands.

[@Revenge221]

I like the final version of Star Fox 2, but this was so cool seeing how it once was!

[@cauanalvesgarcia3650]

Today In September 29, 2017

[@AirshBornely]

What amazes me is how smooth the game runs. Like this is real hardware, so this is as accurate as it can be. Wonder what happened that made it more sluggish

[@bert7651]

Sabotage or maybe that's me being bitter.

[@ChessPieceRook]

@@bert7651 Well, miyamoto did fuck argonaut over and steal their ideas for SF64. Wouldn't surprise me.

[@robertanderson9447]

Could be due to the later builds having more textured objects/surfaces to load.

[@SonicTheJackrabbit]

@@ChessPieceRook You mean Nintendo's *own* ideas? What the fuck are you talking about? Argonaut only handled the technical side of these games (less so with SF2), they weren't in charge of the actual design and creation of the game assets. Unless you specifically mean Dylan Cuthbert and Giles Goddard since they were the only ones from Argonaut that were involved in the design of these games, which would be complete bullshit if that were the case.

[@yoshtrooper6938]

Yes UR FINNALY BACK WITH STAR FOX Dogone it I forgot editing a comment made me lose the hearth

[@PikangsFutaba]

This prototype showed me why I love in space to use the "1st" person view in the final version, the way to attack the enemies in 3rd person view is just bogus, not to mention that the fact that this is a prototype of earlier days, the hit-boxes are also bogus.

[@junidelgadocolon-elchicogamer]

You can change the first view person camera to the third person on space battle, just pause the game and change the camera 1 to camera 2, in the final game.

[@RT55J]

those multiplayer songs are nice

[@fgfhjfhjfbhfghf5771]

Return of the King

[@PikangsFutaba]

BTW, the Corneria Fell cutscene is slighty different, showing more of Andross' forces at the start and in the segment of Corneria's base the voice line is different compared to the beta that was closer to the final version and the final version (other than that is pretty much the same cutscene), if the rest of the prototypes becomes playable... yeah, we could see even more stuff that didn't made the cut in the end, but still, I wonder what the heck was the function of the "D" special weapon... maybe "Decoy"?

[@mspeter97]

It does seem to spit out an airwing so Decoy might be what that D stands for

[@ChessPieceRook]

Am i the only one that's sad the sheep/bovine girl got replaced with Fay?

[@protocetid]

They turned our girl Fay into a dog, wake up sheeple!

[@PikangsFutaba]

Wow, the prototype is more interesting than the final version (and a little bit more ruthless I think) a shame it doesn't allow you to fight Andross at the end.

[@Karmageddon415]

People will most likely "fix" that

[@Monoaux]

It would be cool if star fox 2 had a "boss rush" mode with bosses from star fox 1

[@PikangsFutaba]

Yeah, so far I only have fought Hunter Fantron and... Spin Crusher (which is actually Space Blade)... But this particular boss I fought it in land (on Titania, the shield item made the fight a walk in the park), the Mirage Dragon should be in the prototype, but so far I had no luck finding it, I also know the Macbeth base boss from the final version is also in the prototype.

[@Monoaux]

@@PikangsFutaba the Macbeth boss (or at lest the boss' sub level) goes all the way back to the first builds of Star Fox, when they were pitching it as "Super Star Glider"

[@lain328]

Man I would love to try this myself, love to be pointed in the right direction to where I can find this.

[@DrGreenThumbNZL]

Go to reddit/Roms , theres a post on front page

[@lain328]

@@DrGreenThumbNZL So far I've only been able to find the leaked source code. Are there any compiled ROMs? I'll have to keep looking I guess. Thanks for the help. Update: Got it & some others.

[@shootingstar7101]

@@lain328 Can you share the ROM with me?

[@GigglyMan42069]

If you have a discord, i could provide with this rom and a bunch of others

[@lain328]

@@GigglyMan42069 I think I managed to find all the Star Fox 2 ones, but yeah I wouldn't mind joining a Discord server or thing like that.

[@kiwibro6454]

Well kinda neat that you can traverse through the lylat system much quicker, and fay's ship looks much better ..tho the portraits look more basic

[@davidalbertodiaz6312]

Medí cuenta que no esta el satélite que nos ayuda a defender corneria y también ahí bastantes cambios Fay por ejemplo XD

[@PikangsFutaba]

Tampoco los Star Wolf, ni los disparos cargados con o sin efecto rastreador por mencionar otros cambios.

[@bl4ckw1ngz64]

How long was MP kept?

[@caporalito28]

like

[@trapez77]

Is this more fun than the final version?

[@cauanalvesgarcia3650]

In September 29, 2017

[@chrissretrogaming7009]

have you got an ips patch or rom for this to run on sd2snes ?

[@PikangsFutaba]

The rom you find in most links doesn't work in the SD2SNES, I had to fix it myself, I could share the file if you want it.