God of War 5 Ragnarok - ODIN Vs Kratos Boss Fight & Death Scene PS5 (4K 60FPS) Final Boss

God of War Ragnarok Final Boss fight Odin vs Kratos and Odin death scene
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[@DarkSuperRunChao]

Then why are you so bad at the game? Lol... missing long ass qte's...

[@placeholdername3907]

@@DarkSuperRunChao ok

[@Slurping_DeezNuts]

Good joke

[@edyr]

I sort of want to win over everyone, obviously

[@qcq1814]

TEKKEN 8 is unconfirmed h why do you think it’s coming out in 2023

[@normalfellow1113]

Atreus- Puts on the mask. Odin- "What do you see?" Atreus- "We're characters in a video game." Odin- "Huh?"

[@pineapple7904]

This sht cracked me up lol

[@Yoisaki_K.]

Mimir: "The Fuck's a video game?"

[@thechunkmaster8794]

I thought he would've turned into Jim Carrey if he put on the mask.

[@THEVIDEOARBITRATOR]

ROFL

[@theorangewarrior03]

@@thechunkmaster8794 that would have made the game worth a lot more

[@krisskrosssss]

Poseidon: "No matter how many gods fall, there will always be another to stand against you." Kratos: "They will fall as well."

[@iwantnuggers3365]

The coldest shit ever said in a game

[@tyroglo]

When he was on dummy with everybody 😂

[@parkout95]

This was probably where kratos would of had died, letting his guard down Here he changes fate (like always) which was surprising lol

[@Pauli-dg2yv]

"The death of Olympus means the death of us ALL"

[@eggxecution]

@@Pauli-dg2yv "then prepare for your death poseidon" *music starts*

[@ismaelrodj]

Let's appreciate the fact that Sindri broke Odin's machines, the Wall, crafted Kratos weapons which he used to fight him, and finally killed him.

[@PiBoVi]

A dwarf on a mission

[@greenman784]

the true mvp

[@biggietothex]

he'll be the next big boss on the next game

[@the_lifeoftimbo]

Sindri was like Gohan when he went SSJ2 💯

[@gabrielaleactus9932]

Sigma sindri

[@vksasdgaming9472]

Looks like only Mimir was able to break Odin's smug confidence. That incredulous "what did you call me" by Odin tells his insult really hit the mark.

[@Ky-xm7tc]

makes sense when Odin really despised Mimir, i mean he didn’t endlessly torture him for no reason 🤣

[@heijeio2678]

Timestamp?

[@vksasdgaming9472]

@@heijeio2678 About 10:40.

[@skebaba918]

I mean makes sense since he's the Puck, and as we know that's always Based in most fantasy settings

[@danieldickson8591]

Makes sense that Mimir would know best how to get under Odin's skin.

[@holitinne]

Thor: “Do you know, what I’ve *DONE?”* Kratos: *”Yes.* But what will you do *NOW?”* That’s a badass quote.

[@andrewowens4421]

Because in all honestly, Kratos has done the same in a sense.

[@th3ra83]

@@andrewowens4421 even worse.

[@blackfire1471]

@@th3ra83 Ra, will you stand against Kratos when he goes after the Egyptian mythology?

[@th3ra83]

@@blackfire1471 no. But Kratos had done something worse than whatever Thor does.

[@blackfire1471]

@@th3ra83 but Ra, Egyptian mythology Gods are stronger than the Greek one. Kratos will have a hard time against Anubis, Osiris, You, Horus...etc. how do you think he would win?

[@bolt2134]

I can't believe that there are people who say "I miss the Kratos that just killed everything that moved", you must be blind to the insane development of this character

[@etendudeaufraiche146]

The gameplay was better when kratos was a killing machine

[@gummyboots]

Why can't you believe it? This is fucking boring. It's like they wanted to make a new game but had to force an existing IP over the bones of it, because this shit is not God of War. It's okay to like a fun emotional dad adventure but this didn't have to be Kratos, and it didn't have to be this franchise. They barely even acknowledge the old games anyway, dude didn't talk about his first wife and child more than 5 minutes in this 20 hour game, and he's literally wearing their ashes on his skin at all times. I'm fine with kratos getting character development, but saying this HAD to be how it was done is bullshit, this is just boring. They turned this series into a playable MCU movie. I don't hate MCU movies but those aren't what I want when I think of God of War.

[@Billy7265]

@@gummyboots Cope harder soyboy, go play Marvel's Avengers then

[@BeeHatGuy]

@@gummyboots i hope this is a kid saying this cause a full grown adult not getting the nuances in the story is just pathetic

[@theblackswordsman7558]

@@gummyboots I'm sure that in a few months, once the hype has died down and more people have played the entirety of the game we will get more sound criticism of it. The last act of the game was rushed and a great many plot points that had been established in GoW 2018 were completely brushed over or simply ignored. This should've been a trilogy but as you've seen this is what happens when something goes mainstream, it lacks any of the wow factor or setpieces of the previous games. Definitely feels like the game has been disneyfied, the last fight with odin was atrocious I very much doubt the devs even knew what to do with it, how is it that Baldur was more intimidating than the strongest god in the pantheon?

[@kristoffwatral2555]

Just noticed, the way that Atreus is holding Odin after he has taken his soul out is the same as it was pictured in the prophecy showing Kratos death and also Kratos is standing in Thor's place. This means the prophecy was still fulfilled, as Odin was a father-like figure to Atreus (and the All-Father), and Kratos's story parallels Thor's (he also said they were the same lol) so technically the prophecy did happen, just to other characters.

[@lumberluc]

The turning point was when they changed the quest of vengeance to a quest of justice. When Sindri destroyed the weapons with the Midgards at the front, the quest changed there. Thanks to that, Thrud joined Atreus instead of fighting him. Thor was beaten, not killed by Kratos. Atreus is free on his journey instead of subservient to Odin.

[@kingstarscream320]

@@lumberluc Sindri murdered a man in cold blood. That’s not Justice.

[@lumberluc]

@@kingstarscream320 But what that man did, did in cold blood, all for the sake of knowledge. He killed Thor who gave up. Entrapped Freya in Midgard. Sent Baldur on a wild goose chase that got him killed. Possibly 100 more sins that were all for his sake. It was either Soul Prison, or Soul Destruction for Odin.

[@kingstarscream320]

@@lumberluc I wouldn’t necessarily be opposed to Soul Execution for the man, so long as it followed a free and fair trial, and only if laws permitting the death sentence were given legitimacy by being made law by democratic representatives.

[@lumberluc]

@@kingstarscream320 So your cool with letting a group of people, whom the murderer owns, dictate the murderer's judgment? That's insanity.

[@pikosapikos13]

It's absolutely incredible that Kratos, the God once aknowledged for the pain that he brought upon an entire older mythology and for some wounds he caused in this realm, was also the very first individual to make Thor reconsider his past fame and for once deny killing yet another one. After all, neither of them was so much different in the past which makes it all much greater.

[@TravellerTinker]

And stupid considering Kratos should be punished

[@Awesomeflame16]

@@TravellerTinker he has been....

[@imsoedgy902]

@@Awesomeflame16 why waste your time on keyboard warriors?

[@TravellerTinker]

@@imsoedgy902 keyboard warriors? Im not even acting tough just stating my opinion

[@The_Knight2004]

​​​@@TravellerTinker he walked the earth for 1000 years in the comics before he arrived in norse 1000 years to think of his mistakes. 1000 years of loneliness without anyone to see or interact with but himself 1000 of years of hatred to himself after he tried to kill himself for the second time Imagine living in a tradegy that you are that suicidal and broken Kratos has paid That's the worst punishment someone could get even more than physical pain

[@dumb_lifeexe2264]

"Don't forget me all fucker" Damnit man everything that comes out of Mimir's mouth is just pure gold

[@mohammedz9294]

That's a title more suited for Zeus imo

[@dumb_lifeexe2264]

@@mohammedz9294 fair point but considering we didn't have Mimir then it wasn't said until now

[@anonymous-hr3uq]

When did he say that?

[@dumb_lifeexe2264]

@@anonymous-hr3uq 10:43

[@anonymous-hr3uq]

@@dumb_lifeexe2264 thanks

[@ysgramornorris2452]

"Are you broken?" Yep, Odin definitely sees his son as a tool.

[@tizioacaso6676]

Odin sees everyone as a Tool

[@theintruder6085]

Poor thor he was never the villain it was Odin all the time ....i wish thor didnt die , god it hurts to know that thor is dead cause of Odin

[@imperialtrooper927]

Clearly

[@th3ra83]

Should've said Thor: Well, you already are so broken that we can't fix you!

[@Noah-ns3xc]

It's also worse when you think that when they first meet kratos and Atreus, Thor is trying to remain sober. Odin probably ordered him to bring mead knowing that.

[@infamouscha]

0:57 The way Kratos says “Yes” so fast. He knew exactly what was going to come out of Thor’s mouth, because Kratos also walks with so much shame.

[@The_Knight2004]

​@@lakotawaboosekratos is in his prime

[@The_Knight2004]

@@lakotawaboose he is as fast as he needs to be

[@0retro0]

i love odin's actual in-battle screams. they almost sound like crow screeches

[@joshmcdonald1510]

He is called the "Raven God" for a reason. So, it makes sense why his screams sound like Crow screeches.

[@ahmadzayidan6817]

yeah. people overlooked how badass and scary his actual battle scream are just because he let that goofy ass old-man scream when Atreus broke the mask.

[@noellesato311]

@@ahmadzayidan6817 IT was pretty funny though. AUUUGH

[@justadude7598]

@@ahmadzayidan6817 His theme is what makes it even more scary and badass

[@Rabbitmancer77]

I like to think his “battle shouts” are his actual voice and his normal voice is just part of his act as a feeble old man

[@Rambit]

Well, im sure nobody EVER expected Kratos would actually redeem Thor, to turn him away from the path of murder and killer, to actually teach him to say no

[@h20poseidon33]

Your right a lotta people didn't including my friends

[@deazy6453]

Eh, I kinda did lol

[@jamesmassey4863]

How so?

[@R4Y2k]

He went from "God of War" to "God of Dad" :P

[@dandeviant8866]

it's hard to. The first game keeps setting up Thor as this murderous thunder god that kills everything he dislikes. Didn't mention anything about them being the results of Odin's manipulation.

[@sinistor3727]

Kratos: *miss the button in quick event Freya and Atreus: DO IT AGAIN.

[@niceguy1965]

Actually its the other way around.

[@Goatgeta23]

@@niceguy1965 exactly 😂

[@lordcurze]

He did it twice 😂 how is that possible

[@richardpignataro211]

@@lordcurze I think it’s so we can see what happens

[@lordcurze]

@@richardpignataro211 theres a rewind feature

[@tonytan5945]

When you realize that Thor's whole "no thinking" motto was probably just some mindset Odin ingrained into him so that he would be his lapdog.

[@johnwinchesterp2963]

A smart destroyer would not be easy to control compared to a drunk destroyer.

[@bobdole7451]

That's why Odin encourages Thor to drink at the beginning of the game and berates him when he doesn't. He wants a stupid, sloppy, kill machine that can't think for himself.

[@Heraldo_Del_Mar]

​@@bobdole7451That's kinda similar with Heimdall right? As Odin's mind reader, Heimdall sees a person's intentions but never questions WHY. Which is what Odin meant by "sometimes he forgets to think", meaning that Heimdall alone is just as self-destructive as Thor is with his alcoholism.

[@burgerlover4574]

Obviously 💀💀

[@oentrepreneur]

he's not pure evil in the mythology, it's just in this game

[@mattyj6135]

15:18 I love the little details, Atreus reaching for the knife then changing his mind.

[@LongClawzHidden]

I didn't even see that, good eye!

[@hexellent7244]

Especially when he’s saying “there’s always a choice” Perhaps hinting at his past actions and how he’s changed, like when he mercilessly killed an already-defeated Modi, even when the correct choice was to spare him. He was in the same spot at that moment, Odin doing so much worse than Modi ever did, yet he still chose to spare his defeated opponent

[@Stage7autism]

And the part where his eye fades cause he is dying

[@randomnessanimation6831]

I’m the 666th like!

[@anselmopat4985]

Damnnnnn he wanted to kill him like he did Modi 💀💀

[@AlphaQHard]

Odin is such a gaslighting psychopath. “I didnt do it, and if I did then its your fault.”

[@CBRN-115]

He gaslighted his son for countless ages only to kill him

[@personal9372]

When you put it that way lol

[@naughtyskywalker9292]

He learnt well from SJWs and Tik Tok

[@Galaxy-rj1kj]

@@naughtyskywalker9292 bro?

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@@naughtyskywalker9292 Can we stay away from politics for like 5 seconds please it's so boring

[@leostevano8128]

So many people missing the point. Kratos main source of strength has always been his rage. The madder he is, the stronger he gets. But this kratos doesnt want to descend into madness again like his past self. He wants to be better for his son. He doesnt want atreus to be like what he was. For example when he fought thor for the first time, when thor mention atreus he got mad and his punch hurt thor so much thor needed a second to recuperate from the hit. Also thor said it himself, "there's the god of war" after that last hit. This kratos cant utilize his full strength, but he is the better example for his son.

[@kaushikhegde8227]

Kratos can utilize his full strength but he does not for Atreus' sake.

[@leondroclarke6870]

@@kaushikhegde8227 exactly, he purposely fight with the least effort he can. He does not want to go into full rage

[@Kn1ghtborne]

No one cares though. We wanna see him beat Odins face in with Thors hammer. Yes maturity is nice Yes killing is terrible but I'm not playing God of fucking War to be diplomatically influential.

[@ikechukwuanya902]

@@leondroclarke6870 actually he can't... There's a reason his power up is called Spartan rage

[@alvinnj3455]

@@kaushikhegde8227 no one cares enjoy the game

[@thesucc990]

Can we appreciate just how well written Odin is (well, was) as a villain? His voice actor did an incredible job too.

[@champion1772]

He was terrible and weak

[@hy2707]

@@champion1772bro did not have the game💀

[@kaanalkoc9868]

@@champion1772 bro watched Ragnarok from Mcu☠️☠️

[@desireless4092]

Appreciate what? This low tier Sopranos fan-fic?

[@kyriacoskeravnos7228]

Bruh, Odin was awesome. What are people smoking? Way better than the MCU Odin. People like Zeus so much myself included, but Odin was much better written.

[@somewhatunbiasedtalks]

“Father why aren’t you blocking” “Because I’m playing on the easiest difficulty boy”

[@stephentighe7918]

,😁

[@pyroblade452]

ROCKY BALBOA TECHNIQUE BOI!

[@eithank2001]

I love how Kratos is a great Father and has changed for the good of his son, they always make me tear up with those moments of Father and Son

[@saip.]

He's being the dad he lost the opportunity of being the first time around

[@kianmarcial8884]

Kratos alwyas had been a great father Try playing or watching chains of olympus

[@broknight9718]

He fought very hard to earn that chance to be a father and not lose it like he did in the Greek Era.

[@counterstriker3971]

Woke and pretentious trash

[@counterstriker3971]

@@kianmarcial8884 Or the very first GOW game.

[@afluffydoggo1698]

I love Odin's voice when he casts his spells, it sounds so ominous and majestic.

[@icarus7961]

Not sure if you've played Skyrim. But when the draugr shout at you, it gives off a similar voice affect, and it's really cool.

[@imperialtrooper927]

Too bad his voice when he speaks normally sounds just so average

[@cookiecz6802]

Same

[@MARSTthetasigma]

Hummm... no?

[@guccigang5269]

Glettings bara

[@amphibianking4277]

I can’t be the ONLY one who just finds all of Odin’s abilities and his move set so satisfying, just how he pronounces all the spells, how they look, how he casts them. All of it is just so cool to me

[@ZechsMerquise73]

absolutely. I cam here looking for them

[@WeCaredALot]

Yes! I want to know what all those words mean too. Glettings bara, Issprenga, etc

[@Blexxor12]

Yeah definitely agree with ya. Also, don't like the guy much, but man he held his own against 3 (4) people 😂 But yeah the spells and how effortlessly he chains it all together. Odin definitely is a force to be reckoned with

[@juanjoyaborja.3054]

@@WeCaredALotFirst one is ice bomb, second one is “just having fun”. They’re phrases in Icelandic.

[@karlbenito9992]

More of a mage than a brawler

[@JennySmith-ds3ej]

I love that Odin is not a giant mega-god like a lot of the older GoW bosses. He embodies a more insidious evil: manipulation and control. He hurts and abuses people to get his way and fears only what he cannot control. His entire existence is bent on tightening his grip on everything, on understanding how to bring all of creation to heel. Real evil is boring and afraid, not flashy and exciting like movies make it. Odin is a far more believable evil than the glorified enemies in past games.

[@mikev8746]

Probably also was easier to develop than a massive sized boss with lots of stages eh 😂

[@harcoremonkey]

I would have appreciated a greater final boss battle choreography, like, I was expecting to join Jormungandr to fight Thor, or Ragnarok being part of (or interrupting) the fight with Odin, but instead both things were merely on the background.

[@mikev8746]

@@harcoremonkey Would have taken to much work. Budget and time went into other things. Namely taking it easy and being on Twitter allot. These devs don’t like to sacrifice to much of themselves for their work nowadays.

[@Celebroo]

Nah he was bad. I really despised this depiction

[@ganeshchakravarthi3912]

Great analysis.

[@pabloosset2533]

Wherever Thor ends up, I hope he finds his peace, gets to see his family again and doesn't have to deal with Odin ever again.

[@yourdarknessawaits3895]

Same, fat dobber really loved his wife & daughter, even listened to reason & confronted Odin head on. Poor lad.

[@TheNapster153]

I mean, it's possible to recover him IF they want to. However, that depends if they really need it. The man deserves his time to rethink his life, before he decides wether or not he should return. I argue as well, he can still make appearances through his hammer. As a matter of fact, that could make a great plot point, with Thor guiding and counseling the next wielder of Mjolnir on how to act and carry themselves.

[@ChaseTSY]

Valhalla

[@strenuousspider9525]

@@TheNapster153 If Kratos and pull himself from tartarus i dont see why thor cant for hell.

[@KaitoZaras]

@@ChaseTSY Since he was killed not in battle but by dishonor from his father he will be to Hel

[@awesometron3065]

Sindri the true murder of Odin. They all prolly wanted to hide Odins soul but Sindri just said fuck that.

[@marshalc1574]

To be fair. Sindri just lost his brother Again and this time was killed by odin and he is the only one that still hasn't got out from brok's death and unlike freya and kratos who been through long time to learn to let go the past now there is the chance to revenge towards odin he wouldn't want to give that away

[@MrVictor1227]

I thoughr breaking the ball would release the soul of Odin in to the World. Shouldn't he go to the after life also?

[@alenkikic3531]

@@MrVictor1227 Well yeah I think that happened, and where did his body dissapeared?

[@jaedenomen4556]

I love how he just dips too

[@dandeviant8866]

@@MrVictor1227 watch his previous interactions. He is Odin, the All-Father itself. He's the King of the Aesir. He created Valhalla for his dead warriors, but there's no Valhalla for him. Nothing awaits him or his soul after his death. That's why he's been too obsessed with the mask and all the knowledge seeking

[@enzivixy]

Love the fact that Odin literally takes damage from Mimir's insult. It's at 10:41

[@demonlord4661]

Emotional damage 💀

[@ayr9999]

@@demonlord4661 😂

[@matejamicic3037]

his ego shattered

[@lpycb42]

Omg I just saw this!! Amazing 😂😂😂

[@NinjaBray]

What else would you expect from mythology's biggest narcissist?

[@djkillstreak33]

Odin be like “thor did i catch you existing !!!!!”

[@mrwestcottx3487]

And then Kills his own son.

[@rencedionson3795]

LMAO

[@WeCaredALot]

Lol!

[@saad12103]

" Thrud is gonna be fine i saved her. " -Odin after smacking her with a god killing weapon.

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[@thegoodwin]

Ah, the irony.

[@gagec6390]

I believe he means that he hit her with the hammer to send her flying away from the destruction of Asgard?

[@madtanukie7116]

Lol, That cracked me up in the game!

[@blackroomrob4205]

@@gagec6390 yeah... then again, he DID just murder Thor so who knows where his head was at

[@WaterFlame3030]

The fight is cool as hell, and Odin's moveset really reminds of how a battlemage would fight. Very magic oriented, but not lacking in physical ability at all.

[@letmethink9414]

OKAY?!!

[@tetsutetsu7206]

Yeah but I kinda hoped he would get a transformation or boost in power or something, currently he’s way past his prime and not really menacing final boss material And I thought the mask scene was the perfect way to do it, the mask clearly meant a lot to Odin and he’s been working on it for years and then just let’s his enemy choose to use it??? I thought he was gonna take the mask and jump into the rift and gain the “infinite knowledge” and know everything, so he could perfectly predict attacks and use more powerful magic, them beating him in this form to show that everything he’s worked on, every life he’s taken, and every effort ended up in vain because of the people he hurt to get it, or maybe he could have actually been invincible but the drawbacks of the power also lead to a more painful death to show shortcuts always have a cost, but just atreaus destroying the mask after they conveniently fell into the basement right before he was gonna die, right infront of the rift and the mask conveniently fell onto the ground And after Atreus already said he wanted Odin alone to die and he was fighting against him the whole time was a waste

[@leonel392]

@@tetsutetsu7206 only the champion of the Giants can use it

[@daruddock]

@@tetsutetsu7206 he always sends others ahead to make sure it's safe before he arrives.

[@Tupac6780]

@@tetsutetsu7206 how is he past his prime?

[@matthewroach7112]

Pretty amazing how when Atreus takes odins soul it visualises the mural that Faye destroyed where Atreus was holding kratos in his arms with the chaotic swirls coming from his mouth.

[@majortom91gsg]

This is where everyone is wrong and the devs played you like a fiddle. Compare the mural with "Kratos" death with the other ones. Kratos is always depicted with the red tattoos and red skirt. The person lying in Atreus arms has no red skirt. The prophecy was fulfilled but everyone interpreted it wrong.

[@cheeseburger7788]

@@majortom91gsg in Andrabogas prophecy it is Kratos, tattoos and all

[@alexandregagnon-giard4440]

Odin: you turned them all against me! Obi Wan: You have done that yourself!

[@ddes257]

lol💀

[@le_hiyushi5459]

😂😂😂😂

[@desaturatedair]

odin can fly but the moment obi wan is 0.1 cm higher he wins

[@CadenPlays5000]

What always gets me is at 3:06 where Odin picks up the hammer with ease and just chucks it. Throughout the game, Odin always looks frail and weak. Like he mainly relies on magic, trickery, or the strength of others to get by. But the fact that he easily lifts the hammer without a second thought and threw it hard enough to send Thrud flying really shows just how strong Odin is. This probably represents as well why Thor never tried to stand up to him regardless of all the pain Odin caused his family.

[@Axel_Kasai]

Odin likes to hide how powerful he is.

[@joaopedrolima970]

The hammer is magic, so I don't believe he's that strong: Everytime Kratos tries to stop it, it's already flying (so Kratos use his strength to stop a hammer's magic attack), but when it's stuck at the wall, he grabs it normally with the blades of chaos.

[@powercouch1845]

I dont think mjolnir requires strength to lift, but magic. So yea it makes perfect sense that odin can lift her

[@CadenPlays5000]

@@powercouch1845 I mean it seems like they are basing Mjolnir off of actual Norse mythology. But maybe a mix of magic as well. I mean, Thor isn't the most "magic savy" person ever, so if the hammer is magical it must be stand alone magic that is constantly active with no caster. This would mean anyone should technically be able to lift it.

[@sheru.punjabi]

All of you here are missing the point which kratos, and then mimir makes. The strength of gods doesn't come from the body, but the magnitude, influence and power of their godhood. Why does Odin seek all the knowledge in the 9 realms, and not the biggest gym of the aesir? To attain infinite influence and power.

[@FrogyFan]

I love the way he says this at 12:12 You can really hear the pain in his voice as he grapples with the fact that his thousands of years of work has just been destroyed in front of him, and even worse. It was by someone he invited into his home, his kingdom. "You've ruined everything! Everything I've worked for! Everything I've *KILLED* for!" That emphasis on "Killed" really driving home how much this goal meant to him, every single awful thing we've heard Odin has done, he is letting us know what it was all for. His answers, and we took that away from him.

[@crashingblow3753]

As if he even deserved them. Odin deserved to suffer worst than he did here.

[@pointblank2890]

The emphasis on KILLED for really puts into mind how much of a selfish, pragmatic, and thoughtlessly evil character Odin was. He was completely "the ends justifies the means" kind of guy, and all that madness and death could be excused away when he finally got his answers. With Atreus breaking the mask, there's no justifying any of those atrocities anymore to those he wishes to manipulate.

[@SunDragon243]

I felt bad for odin ngl like bro just wanted answers

[@burstlogic3457]

What really grinds my gears is all he needed was Loki and the mask. He didn’t have to make anyone suffer or make enemies with everyone. If he was actually nice ragnarok wouldn’t have happened and he would’ve gotten his answers without the manipulation

[@aidenparker5955]

I agree and that he wants us now to suffer as he suffered when the Mask was broken.

[@TryStrike_Panda]

9:19 this part seriously got me. Just the way how kratos actually looks like a dad that has a side Atreus wants to take instead of a man who just forces him to do as he says. This is why kratos is an amazing father

[@ajeetsmann]

I thought this was a part of Odin's magic tbh

[@TryStrike_Panda]

@@ajeetsmann wdym?

[@samirmehmedovic6554]

​@@TryStrike_Pandai think he means like he thought Odin made a Illusion of kratos

[@TryStrike_Panda]

@@samirmehmedovic6554 oh…

[@sodaholic4015]

That "I have to know what happens next. I will never stop." line from Odin goes hard as hell. The ominous music at the end there also helps. Absolutely chilling

[@JamesTAdams]

It’s not even really a threat; it’s a plea. He’s telling him “I’ll never stop doing what I do. It’s too late for me to change, but not too late for you to stop it son. Be better then I am, and ever was” Little bit of the Dad he kept hidden away from Thor slipping out during his last moments

[@dvdai1206]

The only moment he was honest

[@stormaurora3027]

@@JamesTAdamsI don’t think it’s a plea. Sounds like the conviction of a madman. An addict. He’s doubling down on his conviction to know everything.

[@CL-vw5bb]

​@@JamesTAdams That was absolutely not his intention lmfao

[@TheVonhouser]

6:46 I like how Freya's monologue here mirrored Baldur's. "I spent many long winters, thinking about what I would say to you, as I watched you take your last breath." "I've spent the last one hundred years dreaming of this moment. I rehearsed everything I ever wanted to say to you, every word!"

[@rilagan5397]

Like mother like son i guess

[@eggxecution]

paraphrased (baldur, 2018)

[@Carlos-ui5dx]

Then she had to spew the cringiest one liner I've heard in quite a while "Bow to your queen!" So stunning so brave

[@TheVonhouser]

@@Carlos-ui5dx Yeah, that was pretty forced.

[@roobeedooo]

@@Carlos-ui5dx yeah wtf was that LMAO

[@vhicthorianobaldovino8886]

That combo of kratos,atreus and freya is way too cool

[@danielouellette1258]

It is it was dope take that Odin

[@mikoajzych2623]

It was like from a fucking family movie,this gow is not the gow I grew up with,I wanted gore and blood,not a fucking marvel movie.

[@RandomVs189]

@@mikoajzych2623 This isn’t even a marvel game and if you want blood and gore, go back to playing the other God of War games

[@USCaiden]

@@mikoajzych2623 I wish there was more gore too tbh but I still rlly like the game it’s not rlly a marvel movie either lmao

[@imoanadz]

@@mikoajzych2623 this situation, fighting with people who truly are his friends and family, is what he actually wanted all this time, what is wrong with you 💀

[@JWeb66]

Around the 9:00 mark, during the choice, I love the use of lighting for this scene. Kratos is Fire while Odin is the Rift. One is natural, harmful if misused but nessisary for life, the Rift is an anomaly, unknowing and tempting but full of trechery. The color also reflects their characteristics; Red is passionate and rage fueled but warm and bright, Green is posionous and toxic, with a sickly allure towards it.

[@theamazinggamerperson3474]

Nice observation

[@DoctorKidemonas]

Each of the final bosses is a foil to the main characters of the game: Thor and Kratos, Gna and Freya, even Hrolf and Mimir to an extent. Odin is the same for Atreus. Thor: The man Kratos once was Gna: Everything Freya ran from Hrolf: Mimir's greatest failure back to haunt him Odin: What Atreus could have become

[@jacobhumphrey3535]

I just love that Odin's personality in this game is ''Gaslighting New York Lawyer''. It's like James Woods' portrayal of Hades. It's so unexpected that it throws you off, so all of your expectations about what he's capable of go out the window.

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

As much as I love this portrayal of Odin, I do feel that one thing which stands out and makes him an 'Evil' version of Odin is his complete and total inability to admit fault in his own actions.

[@UnitedWeStan]

Knowledge is power, "absolute power corrupts absolutely". So maybe evil isn't the right word.

[@alispeed5095]

Couldnt Odin have ressurected thor and any other person he wanted if he had the knowledge? This is what l assumed he had going in his head. The end would justify the means, if he could just see..... Tbh, l wish they dived into this angle while writting his character instead of keeping him this simple. Would have been better if the ending left the player base divided depending on how they saw it. This seemed to straight forward bad guy writing.

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

@@alispeed5095 You don't get something without sacrificing something my guy.

[@alispeed5095]

@@MrJustonemorevoice Actually that's not always true. But l get you

[@roxasvanitas1]

@@alispeed5095 he’s also an abusive father and a gaslighting asshole. Even if he could resurrect them he would just treat them like shit again. That’s the point. There’s no way getting more knowledge would fix all the problems when he himself is the biggest one.

[@ringadingding7667]

I love how atreus noticed you're skill issue . Man had to ask Kratos why he wasn't blocking.

[@Wurzelknecht]

Father, why aren't you dodge-rolling?

[@sebc998]

this game is one of the greatest games ever, but one thing that i cant get over is how thor died, i thought he was going to start attacking odin and then we would truly see how strong odin is when he kills him instantly, but a simple stab through the chest with a spear kinda feels lackluster to end someone as badass as thor

[@hypocritetrollbot7729]

While I agree that would’ve been nice to see, at that point, Thor was done fighting and doing what his father wanted him to. Fighting his father to the death would be another thing his father wanted. He was just done.

[@johnleonard9102]

It would have been many times better if you helped the World Serpent fight Thor. Think about how crazy the battle against Baldur was with Thamur's reanimated corpse as the setting; it leaves me flabbergasted that they didn't think of a way to top that. Not only would you get to ride around on a giant snake while fighting the god of thunder, but his venom could intoxicate Thor just enough to defeat him but not kill him, which would have followed the true mythology pretty closely of how Thor dies.

[@CapitalExpression]

I think that's the idea. After this big battle and all the fights we know Thor has had, at the very end he's killed by his own father after finally standing up for himself and trying to be a better person. It's a lackluster and sad end and severs to show how far gone Odin is

[@michaelbarrett8141]

Thor should died after that fight and standing up to Odin only to Die from the Poison from Jörmungandr. It would been much closer to actual Mythology. Or Fenrir should swallow the Orb with its Soul mistaking it for a Playball or something would also be closer to Mythology. Its still a Epic Game and i loved how they did Show that Odin is a Bastard who even sacrifice his own Family or kill them when they have no use anymore. How Odin died Was also good Sindri got his Revenge. The beat up of Kratos, Boy and Mommy was also pretty epic and reminded me a bit how they beat up Baldur. Not by hope or Friendship only by teaming up and going at it strategic.

[@CapitalExpression]

@@michaelbarrett8141 I feel like having the events follow the actual myth of Ragnarok would have undermined the whole point of the story. Having it follow the prophecy would have vindicated Odin

[@gooeyking]

Sindri coming in just to straight up destroy odins soul and peace out like a true g is probably the best part of the entire god of war series

[@ladistar]

Yeah for real, he has nothing but sheer hatred for the guy lol. I'm surprised the other three took it so easy on Odin at the end. I mean, the dude manipulated them for weeks, killed their friend in cold blood, brought torture and ruin on the entire realm, and after all that, the three of them can't even kill Odin for good? Thank god Sindri came along to do the dirty work lol.

[@gooeyking]

@ladistar i mean that would defeat kratos whole redemption if he just sat by and let the cycle of death continue in his family. In his own words "we MUST be better"

[@robotx9285]

​@ladistar I guess it represents how the others 3 actually had stuff to live for beyond coping with their pain. And all three are finnally finally able to move on from Odin's terrors. S. Was still in pain, S felt like he needed to avenge Brok. But afterwards, he now just has nothing to live for..At least from his perspective.

[@hamel4975]

"Don't forget me All-Fucker" "What did you call me?" The way it was delivered killed me 🤣🤣

[@Axel_Kasai]

It's funny how odin was just more confused than angry about that. Lol

[@Alpha25803]

"That was for Brok!"

[@nitride491]

You know, in a meta sort of way, it was pretty poetic that the final thing that truly ended Odin was the one branch of Magic in the Nine Realms he was never able to acquire and it was from the one who he thought would change his fate. What awesome writing.

[@mareo187]

Fun Fact: the reason why Kratos was supposedly holding back and cannot double Jump in the soft rebooted saga is because when Olympus and Greek gods fell, Kratos powers were mostly lost after that which is why he adopt a new form of combat in the soft rebooted saga. Mirmir mentioned it in the game

[@User-es3em]

No that was in reference to his magic ability not his strength. Kratos had the ability to shapeshift/immortality like the other olympian gods but lost it.

[@user-jg4vu1cy4g]

@@User-es3em if he lost immortality, how is he over a thousand years old.?

[@User-es3em]

@@user-jg4vu1cy4g That's a long lifespan not immortality. Hera even told Kratos in GoW3 that he would die from Old age in her garden and it's said many times in GoW4 that kratos was getting older. Keep in mind the OG titans and Greek Gods were fundamentally immortal and needed special weapons and scenarios to be killed.

[@user-jg4vu1cy4g]

@@User-es3em wasnt kratos cursed to walk the earth forever by zeus tho

[@User-es3em]

@@user-jg4vu1cy4gWhen did this happen?

[@agayweirdo5404]

I think the saddest part about Thor's death is I think we all can agree Thor and Kratos would've been good friend or at the very least comrades because they both are the same deep down both son's of a cruel god, Kratos knew exactly what type of man Thor was because he was in his shoes back in the Greek saga of games.

[@Polygonehere]

I would agree it is. But the real saddest part was broks death. He was literally with us even in the gow4 game.

[@agayweirdo5404]

@@Polygonehere Oh yeah when it comes to tragic deaths in this game Brok is absolutely the saddest hell he was even given a funeral😢

[@erickamakeeaina1649]

Hundredth like

[@Polygonehere]

@@agayweirdo5404 he even was called kratos's few friends

[@theshuman100]

except the thor is kinda pre"tricked into killing his family"

[@hanzo_often]

9:04 "You were born for this." Fate. 9:21 "This is your choice, son. I trust you." Freedom. Beautiful juxtaposition. In the end, Kratos entrusted Atreus with what he never got from his own family: freedom. He did not need to explicitly command or say to Atreus what to do, even in the face of what is prophesied. That is trust... God, this game's narrative is fucking beautiful.

[@azzyasbourne9107]

"Fate only binds you if you let it"

[@ExoticGamer465]

When Atreus said to him earlier in their argument."To choose? I never get to choose." It empties that Kratos learned from there to give him this own choice.

[@Fitchy-ke3wz]

This boss lived up to the hype. I loved it. This is most definitely the All-Father. Also the bit where he slams his staff and does the sidestep with the book in his shield where his cloak comes off is so badass

[@champion1772]

No it didn’t

[@emadraza3698]

​@@champion1772why? It was perfect

[@overkkkill7976]

@@emadraza3698bro played on the lowest difficulty probably😂

[@Fitchy-ke3wz]

​@@champion1772 I do think it was a bit too easy, even on give me no mercy. But the stuff he did, bifrost, magic shields, fire scrolls, attacks of all elements, shouted incantations, definitely showed me ODIN

[@mariodoblado668]

​@@Fitchy-ke3wzAbsolutely, just beating Thor and him showing up I was like: "Oh boy, here he comes" to then throw some mild ass spells that, even if they were presented nicely, had no element of surprise. I was expecting more trickery and illusion from him to be honest, instead the fight consisted of dodging a million attacks till he suddenly standed still for the player to beat the shit out of him. Like, he could have suplanted Kratos or something when you control Atreus, although that scene had a lot of subtle meaning, so not complaining much about it.

[@fahrionder7242]

I love the how they handed the orb to each other. Atreus to Kratos: Showing his newfound trust in his father's decisions. Kratos to Freya: This one Kratos describes well enough, but basically his care and understanding of her Freya to Atreus: Forgiveness ... Sindri... taking his vengeance from Atreus/Odin

[@ShaneFussell]

I like that Odin may not be as difficult as a fight as Zeus in GOW3 because it’s not the same pantheon. I always saw the Greek gods as pure godly beings of unimaginable power. The Norse tales always presented another level of humanity, to me, that the Greek myths didn’t. So seeing a more personal battle between two fathers as oppposed to a world breaking fight is a nice conclusion to this duology of games

[@propopopa6869]

So true on the zeuz fight it took me 3 days to kill him just on the podium fight alone

[@katakurifan5213]

Yep and there's also the fact that the Olympians don't need weapons to use their powers. Zeus is the literal embodiment of lightning whereas Thor needs a hammer

[@idlepotato2221]

@@katakurifan5213 Well technically thor doesn't but who he is gonna pass up the chance for a near unbreakable weapon that can compound your godly power of lightning

[@cringekiller348]

@Katakuri Fan Thor's hammer isn't the source of Thor's lightning. Besides Zeus needs his lightning bolt for lightning

[@cringekiller348]

Gow tard logic Odin is far stronger than Zeus. Just stop coping.

[@NicolasMHarrison]

17:26 Sindri just came in like a BOSS!

[@duddude321]

Best part is nobody had any objections. They were all like "No, that's fair. You definitely had the right to do that even if we chose to pass up the opportunity. Your feelings and actions were 100% valid and acceptable."

[@imperialtrooper927]

Came in like a fricking camper more like it, that was pure kill steal right there, he should've at least done smth during the fight, avenge his brother and confront his killer but nooo, let them do the heavy lifting

[@barbablanca117]

@@duddude321 im just gonna come here and say that was a terrible idea, out of everybody the little dwarfy is the one who kills odin? just when atreus puts his soul in a stone and freya had her chance for revenge but gives odins soul back to atreus? just think about it, it could have been so much more interesting to have him with loki for another game, in the end the Loki and odin dynamic was very interesting. but naaah little midget had to rob us from that.

[@duddude321]

@@barbablanca117 Has some mythological accuracy though. Don't ever wrong a dwarf, the little buggers can and will hold the nastiest of grudges, and they will get you back no matter what or how long it takes. Odin killed Sindri's brother, that's no small grudge.

[@barbablanca117]

@@duddude321 then should have kept that grudge on atreus for not killing odin, that soul have more value for later it is a waste... odin has done so much wrong to freya for millenia and he just killed brok yesterday and suddendly the midget deserves the kill? he didnt even fought odin, just robed atreus, freya and kratos of a choice

[@meshiu2344]

I was cooked out of my mind during this. I took the whole week off from work for this game. A full 7 days when it launched. This boss fight, sent chills down my back. When he shouted *Drifa* and just the effects and everything going on at once was like a sensor overload. Amazing game.

[@spider-man4818]

You took a week off work to play a video game? ☠️

[@ballsniffer6924]

Game was so good that this guy took a whole week off

[@ee-jm2tt]

@@spider-man4818 Can you blame him?

[@meshiu2344]

@@spider-man4818 Yeah I'm pretty disciplined with my PTO and I've been with this company for over 10 years which has me capped at 5 weeks paid vacation. Another reason is this game came right out when my boss went on his trip with his family and I'm not a big fan of who filled his spot while he was gone. worked out perfectly,

[@denontown]

@@spider-man4818 i get it, spiderman’d be outta debt if he got off work for just a day

[@darkknight3326]

I love how Odin tries to prey upon Atreus’ need for purpose when enticing him to use the mask. Suddenly loki is the only one who can wear the mask and his destiny is using it, it shows Atreus’ growth too as he no longer needs the promises of prophecy to feel whole

[@summerrose7650]

"And Thor? You turned him against me, you turned them ALL against me!" Me unleashing my inner Kenobi: You've done that yourself

[@SatoruGo_jo]

I do not fear the dark side as u do obi wan

[@yusufgazi7]

Odin and Thor are like Palpatine and Darth Vader in this

[@boatymcboatface4120]

Good comparison. Tbh Odin gave me Sith vibes.

[@katakurifan5213]

Makes me wish Odin had the same voice

[@SatoruGo_jo]

When u find a sw fan on a gow vid: 😊

[@jaredulloa7861]

Both Odin and Palpatine have goofy ahh screams

[@homelandersolosfiction]

That comparison is actually really good

[@bamsbeyrek9728]

10:43 had me dying 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@anotherway6427]

Dude I laughed so loud when he said that

[@Shadow17]

I choked up when he said that lol

[@Surrester]

LOL

[@sky0599]

*that one's FOR BROK*

[@wrightfamily7381]

Yes that was halarious

[@feliperogue8299]

Odin's spell attacks are actual words in old norse, ive found some translations: Glettings Bára - or Glettingar-bára, means "a splashing wave" Issprengja - Iss (ice) + sprengja (to make burst) Leiptra - generally means "lightning" in most translations Halda - "Hold", "Grip" Rót - (said by Freya) means "root" Drifa - "Destiny" or "Fate" Svíða - "To Burn" or "singe" Dynja eitr - Dynja ("to pour", or "shower") and eitr ("poison")

[@chupapinenyo3080]

i wish there was a alternate ending where you can actually have kratos turn into the ghost of sparta and just solo odin by yourself

[@yority3664]

Now, kratos is stronger then in the past. so he would lose

[@conquerorz5539]

@@yority3664 kratos would win

[@Classified_rA9]

dont think that would end well for kratos considering the devs stated this is the strongest hes ever been. i doubt a downgrade would give him the ability to solo odin

[@ianmcfadden2794]

@@Classified_rA9 he is holding back in this fight and every other in the game. Spartan rage is his base power from the old games.

[@chupapinenyo3080]

@@Classified_rA9 he is still holding back he isn’t letting his true spartan rage out cause he doesn’t wanna be that person wdym downgrade that would be an upgrade do you understand kratos abilities

[@DjunjiD]

10:42 Odin: Three against one, eh? Mimir: Don’t forget me, All-_Fucker!_ All-Fucker: What did you call me?! Mimir: That one’s for Brok! Love ya, Mimir.

[@armoredg1497]

mimir is based

[@Vortex3d_]

@@armoredg1497mimir=based gigachad

[@ZTLGsmashultimate436]

The funniest line I've heard

[@kylereese5841]

12:00 I love how desperate odin is right hers for survival. I kinda want more protagonists that genuinely don't wanna die than just villains.

[@MrExorius]

nah nah nah xD he is not desperate for survival he is for k n o w l e d g e xD he like the guy with the lamborghini and the 7 bookshelfs in his garage

[@kylereese5841]

@@MrExorius True but him repeating NO, when he thought he was losing is showing I think he's holding on to living pretty hard haha.

[@blainedz]

Desperation in a life-or-death situation often makes us our Strongest. Odin pulled out every card he had, every spell he discovered, in a desperate attempt to survive. He ded tho lol

[@oentrepreneur]

​@@blainedz Yh he pulled out every magic ability he had. And from the looks of it he's more powerful than they are and could have easily defeated them all. But I guess the power of plot armor conquers all lol

[@oentrepreneur]

@@emadraza3698 wdym

[@pepevazquez4921]

Wow. The voice of Odin when he casts spells really feels the depth POWER of a god. Gives chills for sure!

[@matthewshiba3997]

Odin has commited many sins in his life; 1. Butchering the Giants out of Fear 2. Cursed his former Wife Freya and the Valkyries. 3. Make his family a Pawns 4. Masquerade as Tyr to knew about the prophecy and Killing Brok 5. Manipulate both Thor and Atreus & the Dwarves. 6. Attempt to persuade Kratos into his side 7. Making the other realm suffer because of his Paranoia and Jealousy.

[@thegoodwin]

The 7 Sins of Odin

[@pat_elite4324]

We are all sinners, and we all fall short of the glory of the god, but thankfully there is a savior, our Lord Jesus Christ.

[@FirstnameLastname77777]

@@pat_elite4324 amen

[@user-gt1qc6yn7m]

HE KILLED BROK

[@shivamgusain5185]

@@pat_elite4324 a God that promotes sex slavery is no god.

[@AMayFlower]

My favorite part of God of War is how these fights feel like street brawls on a (realistic) godly level.

[@garytaylor8193]

@Sigismund Augustus best way iv ever seen it summed out

[@birinderwarraich1179]

This just proves norse gods are weak compared to what greeks were. Even freya said that

[@Heaven0854]

@@birinderwarraich1179 while I don't disagree she didn't actually say that. She said that the Norse gods didn't have the same level of time magic as the Greek gods did. That statement is very ambiguous and isn't nessecsrily referring to AP or strength

[@alvinnugraha5264]

@@birinderwarraich1179 Dev said that Baldur, Thor and Odin are the strongest opponent kratos has ever face... should I need to say more?

[@kautsarmw9526]

@Easy Way Out I think Zeus is the beter final boss but Thor is definitely the better First boss in the series (Of course if you don't include bear atreus)

[@calamityknyte]

When I fought Odin, I used the Blades of Chaos almost the whole way through the fight. I didn't think about it much, but it feels kinda poetic to do so. Those Blades are as infamous as Kratos was and were the beginning of his own nightmare. So to fight another godking with them, in the name of justice rather than vengeance, felt like I was also helping the Blades redeem themselves too.

[@kushagraagrawal7292]

but it would also be poetic to fight him with the axe, given that its a weapon that was once wielded by a Giant, Odin's oldest enemies

[@matejamicic3037]

oh yea return to the roots

[@googguy7773]

​@@kushagraagrawal7292 i fought him with all three weapons. All weapons kratos has, have meaning

[@Blake2X4]

I had that feeling but it was with draupnir, to me Gungnir vs Draupnir was a battle of leaders, fathers, generals, God slayers, a spear of Despair and caos vs a spear of hope and change

[@calamityknyte]

@@Blake2X4 That's cool too!

[@RAWKITHED]

2:41 Zeus: "It did not have to be this way my son, this path is of your choosing"

[@mr.trouble827]

Same scene

[@muk3558]

Odin was so paranoid and narcissistic that he couldn’t even see what he’s done for he pursuit of power, in his eyes he was trying to stop anything that would destroy the realms and his “people” but only ended up being the cause of his downfall. To know everything is to know nothing at all

[@names-mars]

Not sure what your point is with that sentence at the end lol. Depending on your intention, it's either stupid or used incorrectly.

[@jirifejks1798]

“To know everything is to know nothing at all”lol what is this nonsense

[@rasdan1192]

I'm pretty much sure the better word for the last sentence is "He wished to know everything, yet he understands nothing"

[@disturbed157]

@@names-mars it was a philosophical statement obviously

[@DEUS_VULT_INFIDEL]

In his eye*

[@0axis771]

"Let's make a promise. I'll listen for your voice in my head, when you're not there." Atreus kept that promise. If you notice the camera panning when Atreus held up the mask, Kratos wasn't actually there when he told Atreus that he trusted him. Despite how he was alone and should have been at the mercy of Odin's temptations, Atreus listened for his father's words, which gave him the strength to be better. Atreus really developed well, and no doubt Kratos is so proud of him.

[@CBRN-115]

That subtle camera work. Man this surely is a movie

[@berserkerryan3573]

Nah, you can hear his footsteps when Atreus was lifting the mask. Kratos just walked back out of shot.

[@Landis963]

​@@berserkerryan3573 Kratos has a heavier tread - those are Atreus' footsteps.

[@brandan5708]

I love how odin throws the crows at them, showing just how willing he is to sacrifice others before himself.

[@GooseWithAtophat]

To be fair, he does sound genuinely shocked and angry when both the crows die

[@bigcrow6256]

I'm curious about why Odin cared so much about those crows (i think they are crows) - I know they were his "spies" or something close to that. But, when his son Baldur died, he didn't seem to care much, well because he viewed his family as tools. Could it be that the crows were more valuable tools to him? I did hear of a theory that odin survived because of those. (Yes I wrote a whole ass essay)

[@bryanwoo8415]

@@bigcrow6256 It's possible that they're incarnations of him in a way since they were part of his tattoos, and one of them survived so maybe Odin is still partially alive

[@DiaomBayet]

⁠@@bigcrow6256they were his minds, his messengers, eyes. Without them,he can’t go anywhere. He can’t see anything. Remember, the ravens are how he teleports

[@Skolborne]

Odin is associated with Ravens, I'm pretty sure they're ravens

[@kursedmilk]

I love this depiction of Odin he's so weasely and conniving when he fights, just like an old man scared of dying.

[@jesusrivera2970]

When Kratos said for the sake of their children, that gave me a heavy heart

[@AliHaider-on7cl]

That Odin beatdown was badass

[@Draconic_Lorecraft]

This fierce battle cemented Odin as kratos’s greatest foe, it took him, his son, and freya to defeat him.

[@nathanc4298]

No it didn’t, just wouldn’t have made sense for Kratos to fight him alone.

[@Draconic_Lorecraft]

@@nathanc4298 What are you talking about?

[@nathanc4298]

@@Draconic_Lorecraft it wouldn’t have made narrative sense for Kratos to fight Odin without his companions. That’s really as basic as I can explain it

[@Draconic_Lorecraft]

@@nathanc4298 I don’t see why it would be any different narrative wise, but we also see them struggle in the fight, We KNOW that freya is going full out, we assume that kratos is finally going full out, or at least taking this fight seriously, and his son is working with him, so my point still stands.

[@nathanc4298]

@@Draconic_Lorecraft1- Kratos wasn’t going even close to full out, out of fear of scaring his son. 2- Freya and Atreus are obviously going full out but that doesn’t mean Kratos couldn’t have done it without him. It’s confirmed that Odin is weaker than Zeus and Kratos beat Zeus on his own (with better weapons though). 3- None of them were even in much danger during that fight, and none of them took real damage.

[@spideyfan300]

12:06 Kratos was about to give Odin the same Zeus chokehold kill from the end of GOW 3

[@marvinnovilla4368]

My only complaint is that Odin got off easy with his death. Kratos could have battered him a bit before letting Atreus suck his soul out. The guy deserved it for killing so many good characters like Thor and Brok.

[@user-mj9xr5mq3y]

I mean I wouldn’t want my soul shattered in a billion pieces probably lost somewhere but ok

[@isaac15752]

You are asking for old Kratos, he dosent kill anymore, he Dosent torture, he controls his rage, his a wise man; what you are asking is for them to break everysingle thing they build in these two games for some 2 min of fanservice

[@sssharefff]

@@isaac15752 **ahem** Heimdall 💀

[@isaac15752]

@@sssharefff he wished for a honorable death, and there was no choice, multiple times in the game kratos mentions that death could be the only way, as himself tried to commit suicide once.

[@carlosvegamelendez3795]

@@sssharefff .. I know.. but.. what a pitiful character. I felt a lot of sadness with Heimdall's death. He was sad character. '

[@vincentvorse]

"I have to know what happens next. I will never stop" -These may very well be the ONLY true words Odin spoke the entire game

[@ranlygm1438]

6:04 Odin's epic finisher-counter that shows his strength against Kratos and nobody talk about it

[@solidsnake9898]

Yup, he basically had Kratos and Atreus beat until Freya showed up.

[@hunterg.1300]

It wasn't enough against Kratos' strength, though.

[@oentrepreneur]

​@@hunterg.1300how would Kratos and Atreus have gotten out of that bondage if Freya didn't show up?

[@madmrtvola8606]

@@oentrepreneur Kratos probably could break the spell through willpower/righteous fury alone. Remember that one time where he resisted Hades' attempt to steal his soul?

[@edgyguy7084]

The best fight out of all the GoW games, just because of that "all-fucker" line xD

[@buckwheatjackson1761]

10:41 - “What did you call me?”

[@NepKronos]

Exactly at 14:31 we can notice a brief smile from Kratos looking at Atreus beating Odin. Looks like a really proud smile. A tiny detail that means a lot!

[@Resi1ience]

If you can get past the fact that whoever's playing is really really bad at QTEs.

[@PyreOManiac]

@@Resi1ience it was to show what happens when you miss them i think, because they always failed once then immediately nailed it the next time

[@isaakhyde8327]

The more I rewatch Odin's scenes, the more I like the direction they went in with him. He isn't that "deal with it" sledgehammer of power that Zeus was, he's the conniving sliver that has no limits beyond what it's incapable of accepting. That's why as soon as he couldn't control Thor, he destroyed him permanently. Because he couldn't risk having his own Kratos on his hands. Too bad for him that one was enough.

[@azashfield3944]

Thor : "Do you know... WHAT IVE DONE?? " Kratos : *"do yo know what ive done tho? "*

[@mysterycliff6045]

A shame Kratos didn’t give Odin the Zeus treatment.

[@sephorasamot2896]

Zeus death is more Personal and Brutal for Sure 🤣

[@seyhmuskilinc]

the comment i was looking for

[@ChoongieStudioONE]

Zeus treatment was personal to Kratos

[@Youtubecommenthighlights]

Zeus Vs Odin, who wins?

[@milog2961]

In both games Kratos is holding back a big part of his strength. He wants peace and also to train Atreus. He cant train him if he just punches the living shit out of everything

[@OziumG]

You know in hindsight, I think the death of Magni and Modi woke Thor up. I think he now realize how important being a father really is. It’s probably why he’s so protective towards Thrud. I don’t think he can bear to lose another child. So when Kratos says, “for the sake of our children,” Thor puts his hammer down, realizing that is what’s best for his last living child. Too bad he had a shit father, Thor could have been more than a destroyer.

[@odinwarlock2436]

Thor is Kratos at a different stage of development.

[@pjlusk7774]

One of the boat conversations between Atreus and Mimir lays out this exact reading. Magni and Modi's deaths shook Sif and Thor and caused them to a) want to do better for Thrud's sake and b) clean up their act with respect to their raging alcoholism. It's why Thrud comes down on Thor so hard after the bar fight in Gladsheim; he's gone completely off the wagon.

[@pjlusk7774]

Also remember that Magni and Modi's deaths shook Sif and Thor for two reason. First, obviously, is that they were their beloved sons, even if they also emotionally and physically abused them. The second is that, unlike their buddy Baldur, they *weren't supposed to die*. They were fated to survive Ragnarok. Their deaths took away any comfort that prophecy might have given their parents.

[@xgaming2427]

3:18 I love how Odin is just standing there just taking the damage like it's nothing. 😂

[@lewismartin3430]

*Standing here starts playing*

[@terryg90]

With the exception of Fimbulwinter happening as a result of Baldur’s death, it’s weird not seeing ridiculous plagues happening after a Norse god dies compared to the amount of foolishness that started after a Greek god was killed. I’m sure there’s more to it that that though.

[@TheUncivilizedNation]

@@soloamaro5605 I mean Hermes dying just unleashed a bunch of flies Ravens wouldn’t be that bad

[@jorgetomedeandradealves8565]

IT IS SIMPLE, IN GREEK LANDS THE MAGIC IS LINKED TO THE GODS, BUT IN NORSE LANDS IS LINKED TO THE YGGDRASIL

[@doge9763]

I think it’s mainly because the Gods in Norse are just enforcers in a way. Whilst the Gods in Greek are practically ‘one with earth’ so to speak

[@TwiggyShei]

Difference in culture and belief between ancient Greece and the Norse people.

[@caosangang1620]

Odin: 3 against 1 eh? Mimir: Don't forget me, All-Fucker :)))))

[@itsporter]

Only the real fans are happy with Kratos's character development, im more than positive we will play as atreus in the future games and we will see him battle with his rage while kratos appears everyonce im awhile to help guide him and check up, maybe then we will see a new ghost of sparta like you guys want but with atreus instead

[@dailybugle2147]

I don't think Kratos would be happy to see his son become him

[@h20poseidon33]

Probably not a new ghost of Sparta but will definitely be mad strong and usually the children of certain God's are usually stronger right? At some point he'll be stronger than his father and we might get a Pantheon way stronger for Atreus to defeat which would be cool

[@carso1500]

@@h20poseidon33 The next ones are the egipcian gods, or maybe the mesoamerican ones

[@heavyadrelingblogs5630]

The real fans are the ones that know the story needed to end years ago

[@itsporter]

@@dailybugle2147 thats exactly why hed pop up more often, to scold atreus and try to help him control himself, atreus is a teenager he already transforms and attacks when angry eventually hes gonna lose control but we will see him overcome it all and learn to control his rage like kratos did

[@giyu_d_tanjikage]

Odin: "Three against one, eh?" Mimir: Don't forget me, all-fucker. Odin: What did you call me? Lmao I laughed so hard😭

[@TheTatermeister]

Kratos has the best character development in the history of videogames

[@letmethink9414]

🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓!!!

[@broknight9718]

Extremely sad that Atreus tried to reason with Odin but had to put him down like a mad dog who had to be stopped.

[@tacticallychallengedyt]

No one mentions Sindri in any of this game. He went from the kind little germaphobe; to being drenched in blood, bloodshot eyes, rotting teeth and unyeilding rage with immense intelligence. I wouldve loved to see something get done with him other than mourning and vanishing.

[@pjlusk7774]

It's a super-duper interesting character development, but it's NOT good. He is, in his own way, making the same mistake Kratos made. That Freya made. That Odin made. He refuses to take responsibility for his own part in what happened, and is taking his rage out on everyone around him. He's murdering gods in cold blood. It's exactly what Brok told him not to do. He'd make an incredibly dangerous antagonist, if they want to go that way.

[@Saki_187]

It's still pretty amazing that Old Odin fought 3 gods at the same time and still did pretty good

[@cb-9938]

At 1:55 Thor gives Kratos the smallest head nod to show he agrees and a split second later Odin shows up

[@urameshisama6579]

I love the double meaning in the line "no more". It's a signal for no more fighting but it's also kratos making thor understand that even destroyers can change its really cool

[@onion5958]

Imagine if Thor didn't die here..They prob be chilling rn on the end game, drinking while talking abt their past self and trying to change and fix everything that Thor himself have done..i wish there this kind of ending..

[@BulletDrop-1200]

Thor may still exist…he died too easily and faded away, he could’ve achieved a soul form like Athena and show up later

[@ValentinoMarino11]

He is in the Lake of Souls now with Balfour and his sons. Unlike Brok, who’s soul was essentially erased…

[@StealthTheFoxz]

@@ValentinoMarino11 Makes me wonder what would happen if we were, at all, able to recover that last soul fragment.

[@wendigotoes]

“We don’t change. We are destroyers.” “No more… No more. For the sake of our children, we must be better.” I absolutely adore this moment. Kratos realizes that Thor is just like he was when he was young, and despite everything, he doesn’t want to see him continue down the path he went down. The reoccurring line ‘we must be better’ really helps show how much Kratos understands the weight of his past mistakes, and how important it is that he never do it again.

[@RavenDreadful]

Something I noticed is that if you look back at the fight with Zeus in GOW3, the power difference between Kratos and him is...noticeable. That said, the fight against Odin isn't about the same thing that the fight against Zeus was. The spectacle of the fight was incredible, dont get me wrong, but the purpose for the fight was largely vengeance. This fight is about stopping a horrible father and a horrible king from burning everything down with him when he found out he wouldn't know the answer to one simple question. But that's what comes next.