Zanclean Flood of the Mediterranean in Sicily - computer animation

[@dirtylemon3379]

A waterfall 1.5 km high. Let that sink in.

[@systemicchaos3921]

It's hard to imagine. Would make Niagara falls look like a faucet

[@alextaunton3099]

Chances are you wouldn't be able to witness it even if we lived back then. Temperature and air pressure would've been unbearable at that low of an elevation (over a mile below sea level)

[@szazorkan]

??? Not at all

[@egay86292]

not so. the grade covered many miles.

[@alanwatts8239]

It wasn't as much of a waterfall as it was a long, sharply angled downstream.

[@Feasco]

Please give this event the respect it deserves by addressing it as the *ZANCLEAN MEGAFLOOD*

[@BetterWorldEcosystems]

Z A N C L E A N A N C L E A N

[@nomimalone7520]

That's the title of the video .

[@twokool4skool129]

Seriously. This flood almost sounds worse than what happens to my toilet after I eat at Taco Bell.

[@bmolitor615]

oooh the princess has SPOKEN, in CAPS, no less

[@stampator]

The few low-altitude bassins must have been so hot and salty they would made the dead sea look like a river

[@alextaunton3099]

Likely acidic too

[@Tjalve70]

@@alextaunton3099 Why would you think it's acidic? Where would the acid come from?

[@lordbeetrot]

@@Tjalve70idk

[@psychiatry-is-eugenics]

Volcanoes

[@Tjalve70]

@@psychiatry-is-eugenics Which volcanoes?

[@Fritzadood]

The noto canyon must be a popular tourist destination for time travelers Just think of how insane it would look to see a 1.5km tall 5km wide canyon in the middle of the most desolate place on the planet with that much water going through it

[@DarkSygil666]

I agree. It must have been a sight to behold.

[@internetexplorer3999]

Were the dinosaurs able to pass?

[@cornupswar]

​@@internetexplorer3999 This happened long after the non-avian dinosaurs were wiped out, but I guess the descendants of the avian dinosaurs (birds) witnessed this stuff.

[@daddyleon]

Two years…I have no clue at all whether to this this is amazingly quickly or staggeringly slow.

[@systemicchaos3921]

Very very very quick. It would be tsunami level flooding for 2 years

[@daddyleon]

@@systemicchaos3921 omg...that's insane! thanks! That's the sort of description that gives context. I imaigne a tsunami to be a wall of water of several meters high. But the mediterranean widens, shrinks widens again, has elevations etc, so... I don't imagine it was being a constant wall of water, but not exactly sure what it would look like. Do you have any idea?

[@systemicchaos3921]

@@daddyleon Where the atlantic breached, it was a flow of water equal to 1000x the amazon river, moving at 40 meters per second.

[@Pimpmedown]

@@daddyleon several meters? the ocean was 1,5km higher than the sea. About 100mil cubic meters PER SECOND rushed into it. Imagine a 100m long wall, 2 meters high and half a meter thick. nowimagine you are the size of half a rice-corn. That wall flooded into the sea every second.

[@Xingmey]

@@daddyleon that ocean is now (2024) about 4000 to 5000 m deep. 2 years means ~ 720 days 4000 / 720 = that means, the water level rises 5 m every day, for about 720 on end. that is a two story building. - ever yday 22 centimeters, every hour 3 millimeter per second. that is as fast, as you can fill your bathtub. and that is what happened to that whole region. just imagine sitting near one of those lakes therem that are now the bottom of the ocean, near the shoreline. sunbathing, having a good time. suddenly you have wet feet, and now you try to run. but where? the nearest highest elevation is hundreds of miles away, and water rises 5 meter per hour the first hour you can run, it's only 22 cm after all but after the second hour you have to wade. after the third hour it's over your knees, in the fifth hour it is 1,1 m high (that's about your waist) you now have to carry your shild, coz it will drown otherwise. but you only managed to run as far as 20 km (assuming you are can make the whole 4 km per hour spiel in waisthigh water at all...) you still have 180 more km to run. after 10 hours you have to swim after 12 hours you are 2 hours swimming and will drown probably nothing you can do about that, and the water just keeps rising.

[@mitchellglaser]

Ask your doctor if ZANCLEAN might be right for you!

[@cheapercharlie]

this is why YT comments keep me coming back

[@mysteryman6918]

Not just right for me, right for civilization

[@DanBeech-ht7sw]

I thought ZANCLEAN was for stubborn blockages in drains?

[@twokool4skool129]

Side effects may include dampness of the armpits, pustular emancipation, and continental flooding.

[@cheapercharlie]

@@twokool4skool129 good one

[@amos083]

Nice simulation of the Mediterranean, but the Black Sea is shown at its current size! It must have been much smaller too.

[@melbjohn]

I think the theory is that the Black Sea flooded in the last 30000 years, but your main point remains. It would have been much smaller prior to the flood

[@FiveAcres1]

Thank you. I am reading Thomas Halliday's Otherlands and wanted to see an animation of the megaflood. This is exactly what I wanted.

[@for.tax.reasons]

I've been thinking about the Zanclean megaflood and wondering where I learned about it in such detail and looking all over youtube for the video... you just reminded me it wasn't a video at all it was this book! I'm gonna go reread it thank you 😂

[@misterfulanito]

Damn, refilling a whole entire sea in less 2 years is a thing to consider from our Mother Earth

[@bingo737]

Just imagine how fast the climate changed.

[@FadedResolutions]

Man I wish I could walk that land-bridge connecting Africa to Italy.. or that mass of land inbetween Greece and Asia-Minor...Imagine being able to walk and dig down there for artifacts.. Just imagine what could be down there.

[@roccosfondo8748]

Are you thinking about giants, aren't you?

[@Nicods]

first out of Africa dates back from 1,8 to 1,3 millions of years ago, this is >2 millions years ago, so no men there. And Out of Africa I is about Homo erectus, a quite distant from us human species, so even if you could find them in North Africa (unlikely but not impossible as it's in Europe or Asia), it would probably be delusional.

[@notfeedynotlazy]

@@Nicods Six. Six million llears ago. The out of Africa happened four million years AFTER this thing. For the big-numerically challenged ones among us, hoping to find human artifacts in that land bridge is exactly TWICE as silly as using the time machine to go to Homo Erectus time to try to find a modern computer laying around. 🙂

[@repealthepatriotact]

Nothing at all. Too bad you suck at math.

[@philiprice7875]

you will find NOTHING as no humans for about 5million years AFTER flood

[@imranazimviolinist]

Wow!! This video deserves 1.7M views!!

[@tyyamnitz8408]

I was thinking it deserves 1.8 million views

[@VivekSingh85]

that was eerily specific ;)

[@Steveharly456]

Black sea chills and watches

[@egay86292]

it was not the depth in the video, not even close.

[@johndododoe1411]

Point is that there is a similar theory about filling the Black Sea through the Bosporus waterfall, leaving behind a condition where the water flows in the opposite direction at a certain depth .

[@tookster7483]

I wonder if the weight of water movement caused planet wobbles, tilts etc?

[@martinadams1518]

So that might explain Oda's idea of reverse mountain in One Piece manga/anime🤔🤯

[@andreiarama8745]

How much did the oceans lowered their levels because of all that water that filled the Mediterranean sea? Was it noticeable?

[@johnk-pc2zx]

Good question, but I doubt it was more than 1%, just looking at a map.

[@micixduda]

10m Ps: roughly, Oceans cover an area of 139 million miles2 or 361 million km2 and The Water volume of the Mediterranean Sea is 3,750,000 km3 1000m drop would be 361 M km3 100m drop would be 36.1 M km3 10m drop would be 3.61 M km3 lets round it up to 11m.

[@beathammer7420]

this event just made the top of my list of time travel destinations

[@stronzer59]

a version of this to time scale would be amazing, like 1000's of years

[@simonecolzani5442]

Northern Italy was flooded, because the Padanian Flat is quite recent and the lakes floors carry the signs of fluvial excavation under 400 mts

[@iainmawhinney8867]

i heard Crete was actually a chain of islands or something until the Pleistocene

[@PMW3]

That would have been impressive to see

[@shanecalhoun7357]

Great animation, but you got the water color in the Black Sea incorrect. It was dry at the time as well and didn't flood until some time later. Great video thou

[@thevoidlord1796]

Imagine you and your cavemen boys are hanging out on the beach, soaking up the rays, when suddenly a fucking torrent of water hits and singlehandedly reverses the desert that you and your ancestors have known about for as long as they can remember

[@kirklandday]

I'm trying to get an understanding for how messed up this would be for a village chilling in the middle of the mediterranian. Does a meter of water rise every minute, every hour, daily? Is this something you have to outrun or is it something that just destroys everything you and everyone else has that isn't portable?

[@kirklandday]

I assume it would depend on where you're located exactly, but this definitely has some real horror genre potential im just sayin

[@Feasco]

Surface life in Ancient Sicily: "This does not bode well."

[@StuffandThings_]

@@kirklandday XKCD explored this concept with their comic "time," there's some great videos on KZbin where people put all the frames together into a short film. Admittedly theirs is set in the future but same idea, back when this happened it was just early hominid ancestors anyways (though there's a theory that the Black sea flooded like this in a less dramatic fashion less than 10k years ago when early villages would have been present along its banks)

[@kirklandday]

@@StuffandThings_ Thank you so much! It moved me to tears

[@salam-peace5519]

There also was a similar event with the black sea filling up when the sea levels were rising at the end of the last ice age and the bosporus broke which acted like a dam, and a lot of what is now the black sea was dry land which got flooded rapidly. This is estimated to have happened only a few thousand years ago, and could be where the event of Noahs ark happened. Another theory is that the impact event of the Burckle crater (an impact of a massive asteroid in the indian ocean which also only happened a few thousand years ago), which caused massive tsunamis as well as extreme rainstorms worldwide, is when Noahs ark story happened. Maybe these events are even linked and the Burckle impact tsunamis caused the bosporus dam to break, this is also a possibility.

[@clearKermit]

Great video, and great music soundtrack too! Did you make the music yourself or do you know the artist?

[@CognitiveDissident2]

Warzone by James Attanasio. Pretty good tune

[@nomimalone7520]

Its called "Generic dramatic music no. 12"

[@MrDino1953]

Funny, I immediately put it on mute because I found the music distracting and unnecessary.

[@zephyr9949]

Why isn’t that waterfall talked about more? It doesn’t even come up when you search “tallest waterfall to have ever existed”

[@Ayvakevoy]

¡Mmmmm!, Es posible, es una teoría totalmente factible y creíble, aunque yo creo que alguien se dejó el grifo abierto. Gracias y saludos.

[@alessiodecarolis]

Think about the crazy german engineer that wanted to recreate this pre-flood situation. In The Man On The High Castle 's TV serie the Nazis are trying to do the same thing, with a mega dam on Gibraltar 's strait.

[@dbaker3751]

What about the Black Sea? Would it not have started to dry up also being connected to the Med?

[@hadiisaboss5307]

Kinda, it would still receive water from the Rivers connected to it

[@PapaMidnite56]

Twitter sent me here lol

[@elpegriloso]

Haha same

[@sureillbethere]

Whoa, 2 years? I was expecting thousands or at least hundreds bh

[@MrDino1953]

Such a huge and rapid redistribution of water should have altered the Earth’s rotation in some way. Is there any evidence of that in the geo record?

[@Bern_il_Cinq]

You skipped the Black Sea?

[@VickOrient]

Is that when the structures showing by google earth in the sea south of Crête were flodded ?

[@spike8721]

Maybe bit OOT, but the black see also did look differently

[@m.935]

I want to know if this flood affected also the Arabian Peninsula?

[@mzmadmike]

There was a different flood in the Red Sea

[@reddwarfer999]

@@mzmadmikeI thought the waters parted there, though.

[@FTN_Ale]

@@reddwarfer999 another event where most likely the arabian peninsula went away from africa until water rushed in

[@davecooper406]

OMG, the music. Why? Mute, mute , mute.

[@gobby1470]

Still my 4 year-old believes his castle will win

[@saschaesken5524]

How much dropped this event global sea level ?

[@egay86292]

100 m.

[@saschaesken5524]

@@egay86292 Guess that would have been too much or is there scientific evidence?

[@originaldcjensen]

@@saschaesken5524I think the fact that the straight has depths of 300 - 1000 meters today, it is plausable.

[@egeciran1785]

Estimate of water volume of the mediterranean sea is 3,750,000 km3 water coverage of world's surface is around 361 740 000 km2 (including lakes and isolated seas like the caspian sea) lakes take up about 1% of world's surface area so excluding that we would be looking at around 356 572 286 km2 if we count the oceans like a perfect cubic container (ignoring the sloped shape of coasts) the variation of water levels should be around 3750000/356572286 = 0.01051680163 which is around: 10 meters even at 50% error comitted for cubic container oceans we would be looking at around much much less than 100 meters.

[@Tjalve70]

The Med is about 2.5 mill sq.km. All of the world's oceans are about 140 mill sq.km. So the Med is about 1/56th or 1.8% of the oceans. The Med dried out up to 5 km below sea level. Let's say 2 km below on average. That would mean the sea level dropped by 2km/56= 35 meters.

[@---iv5gj]

This explains why the mediterranean is so clear water and salty.

[@Tjalve70]

Not really. The Med is salty because the evaporation is larger than the inflow of the rivers. So there is a constant inflow of water through the Strait of Gibraltar. And this brings more salt into the Med.

[@teddyjackson1902]

Imo many of the flood stories in our historic memories come from this event.

[@systemicchaos3921]

Erm mate, 6 million years ago our ancestors were still in trees

[@valevisa8429]

@@systemicchaos3921 Pay attention dude,they don't say in the video when the flood took place.

[@originaldcjensen]

@@valevisa8429 the 6 million years ago is literally in the first 10 seconds of the video.

[@egeciran1785]

More probably from the black sea flooding event that happened around 7500 years ago when there were actual developed civilisations.

[@johnk-pc2zx]

Or from the indian ocean impact at (now) Burkle Crater.

[@mysteryman6918]

We’re so back

[@davidhensley76]

Did the rivers stop flowing into the Mediterranean?

[@JohnJ469]

No. But the inflow from rivers was less than the evaporation. Once the Gibraltar Strait closed, the sea level in the Med dropped.

[@Losowy]

That'd be so cool to see

[@TileBitan]

we just have to fill the strait again and control the flow of water into the mediterranean: instead of repairing damages due to the sea level rise in every coastal city in the med we would just need to collaborate on this little segment. It's going to be a problem otherwise

[@Tjalve70]

I have said the same thing for years. The people living around the Med have nothing to worry about sea level rise. They can just build a dam at Gibraltar.

[@nessa-parmentier]

​@@Tjalve70the first step in building a dam is usually "divert the river" so you can build without it being constantly under assault from the water. How do you do that with the Atlantic Ocean ?

[@Tjalve70]

@@nessa-parmentier It's good that you included the word "usually". That means you don't HAVE to do that. The reason why you would USUALLY divert a river, before building a dam, is because in a river you have a constant flow of water. And if you don't divert the river, then the flow of water will overflow your work. But it doesn't always have to be that way. You can build a temporary dam, simply by filling up the area. And once that temporary dam has been built, you can then build a permanent dam in the dry area you have created. But then, I'm not a construction engineer. And I suspect you aren't either. However, I know that the Netherlands have for centuries been building dikes, and then pumping out the water behind those dikes, in order to reclaim land. So while this is a much bigger job, I am quite confident it will be possible. If we decide to do it.

[@jaybe2908]

The cost of damming the strait would probably be more than relocating the affected people, if it was even possible to do, which I doubt.

[@jaybe2908]

@@Tjalve70 There's a huge difference between the Dutch damming a low level sea and damming a large deep straight of water, the forces involved would be huge as would the amount of materials to fill it.

[@KenanTurkiye]

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[@bridgecross]

When I first read about this event I nearly couldn't believe it. The entire sea filled in less than 2 years? That's nothing in geologic time. Imagine the floor of the Mediterranean covered with forests, lakes, streams, marshes, all manner of life. All gone in a flash.

[@Tjalve70]

The Salinity Crisis is called that because when the Med evaporated, it left behind a layer of salt. So most likely, this was a desert with very little or no life.

[@bridgecross]

@@Tjalve70 I'm not so sure. It lasted for about half a million years maybe? The pockets of sea left in the area would have been hyper-salinated. But fresh water runoff might have washed large areas clear. Life moves pretty fast.

[@Tjalve70]

@@bridgecross There are thick layers of salt beneath the ocean floor of the Med. So it is a fact that the evaporation of the Med left behind a layer of salt. Additionally, at our current climate, if we were to close off the Strait of Gibraltar, the sea level of the Med would sink by about 1 meter ever year. I don't think rainfall and fresh water runoff would wash away that much salt. Not to mention that we know the layers of salt are still there. OTOH, sediment such as wind blown sand could cover this layer of salt, and possibly allow plants to set root and grow above the layer of salt. So I guess it isn't impossible that forests could develop there after a considerable time as a salty desert. So I guess you might not be wrong.

[@bridgecross]

@@Tjalve70 It would be interesting if they could do paleontology on the sea floor, look for plant and animal fossils. But the abrupt flooding probably mixed everything up badly.

[@reddwarfer999]

@@bridgecrossIt is estimated that the temperature would have been around 80C at the lowest points so far hotter than even the hottest deserts today. So no lush forests, that's for sure.

[@edmeier2030]

Where did the water drain to when Gibraltar closed up?

[@mr.slimeyt]

the water evaporated

[@Tjalve70]

The Med has more evaporation than the inflow of water from the rivers. That's why the Med is saltier than the Atlantic. So the water didn't drain from the Med. It evaporated.

[@philiprice7875]

@@Tjalve70 to complicated for people like him just say "aliens drank it"

[@EpicEnej]

Finnaly a video that doesn't just talk about god

[@emmanuelwehbe2529]

para quem que gosta de mitologia um grande prato.

[@Nawar8388]

What this name of this music

[@CharlesMatheson-w1z]

While it's a great story, unless it has happened twice, the scarring from the ice dam 10000 years ago are still visible.

[@PenyembahPS-nq8rx]

I think the story of Atlantic is real, because mediteranian is not a sea back times, and its near the Greek.

[@gogo-vq4vr]

and what about last ice age? didn`t sea level lower than today?

[@originaldcjensen]

Yes, but with the depth of the channel being between 300 - 1000m, it didn't quite fall enough to cut off from the ocean.

[@Tjalve70]

I believe that during the last Ice Age, the sea level was about 70 meters below what it is now. But the sea level has to sink about 300 meters for the straits to close.

[@ahowl7mx]

Just wait till they make a canal or tunnel to the dead sea and generate power.

[@DeependraDhakalGorkhali]

Impressive!

[@R.E.A.L.I.T.Y]

Missing the river flowing from the Black Sea into eastern Med.

[@Tjalve70]

You can't see any of the other rivers either, so I don't think that's a problem.

[@SashaCIXXVIII]

После повторного заполнения водой из океана, это будет самое солёное море.

[@michaelmaxim7207]

This would coincide with the end of an ice age.

[@reverseuniverse2559]

It’s all the extra pollutants caused by trying out electric vehicles

[@PeggyR70]

So what would have caused this flood?

[@BraceTheGate]

Apparently a massive seismic event that separated the cliffs in the Strait of Gibraltar.

[@Tjalve70]

Europe is on a different tectonic plate from Africa. And if I remember right, they are moving apart. So it's basically the same as the Rift Valley in eastern Africa.

[@nessa-parmentier]

​@@Tjalve70the African plate is still moving northwards. It's what is supposed to have caused the closing of the mediterranean in fact, whereas the Gibraltar strait would have been opened (or re-opened) by erosion

[@Tjalve70]

@@nessa-parmentier You are right. I remembered wrong.

[@manueb85]

Woww!! ❤️👏👏👏🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸

[@Oakshield2]

You know that scene in 'Lucy' where she mentally travels through time while becoming black goo? I'd stop by to see this one.

[@user-zn7tj3xc7k]

When it happened?

[@Tjalve70]

Watch the video.

[@Jake1702]

Didn't moustache man want to block it off again? 😂

[@Tjalve70]

He did. Or at least someone wanted to do it, and I think he considered it a good idea. Of course, it's a very bad idea, since it would leave behind a layer of salt that would create a desert, and not fertile land. It might work if we do it VERY slowly, such that rainfall has enough time to wash away the salt as the sea dries up. If we completely block off the Strait of Gibraltar, the water level would drop by about 1 meter per year.

[@nessa-parmentier]

​@@Tjalve70even then, washing the salt off would push it further into the sea, making for a smaller sea with the same total amount of salt. If we want to create another Dead Sea that's exactly how to proceed

[@Tjalve70]

@@nessa-parmentier That is completely true. But a Dead Sea isn't as big of a problem as a salt desert. Since in a salt desert, nothing will grow, and wind will carry that salt around to other places, where it will also cause plant life to die.

[@345mlc789]

Impressive

[@345mlc789]

Impressive !!!!!!

[@EdwardM919]

Wouldnt be surprised if someone curious caused the flood.

[@lgjm5562]

RIP the cameraman at Noah's ark.

[@efeocampo]

Makes sense...

[@hibernative]

This is blowing my mind. Explains a lot of lost civilizations and underwater artifacts.

[@frisianmouve]

This was almost 6 million years ago so it doesn't, there was a breach of the bosphorus strait about 7600 years ago though

[@Demane69]

@@frisianmouve I've been reading evidence of several massive floods all over the world, many repeated over time too, near the end of the last ice age. That much ice melting, crazy thought, and the impact on the human cultures back then. I can see why stories last until even today. That's not even mentioning the coast lines lost when it eventually hits the oceans, considering humans love to live on coastal regions and would be forced to migrate hundreds, if not thousands of miles. There would have been lots of cultures of "could have been", but never were.

[@frisianmouve]

@@Demane69 Good thing it melted, it was too cold for many civilizations to develop back then. And we're talking about mm's per year, not the apocalypse, stop exaggerating please

[@vvinniem8907]

This happened before homo sapiens ever evolved. 😊

[@Tjalve70]

@@Demane69 This happened about 6,000,000 years ago. The end of the last Ice Age happened about 10,000 years ago. See if you manage to spot the difference.

[@DieFlabbergast]

Is this the music that was playing back then, when this happened? And was it played by Jehovah & the Angels or by Satan & the Demons? Whichever, those are good names for a rock band. :)

[@awedelen1]

cool

[@wilkinson6212]

That must have really freaked some ancient people out.

[@marksolarz3756]

Maybe.....Maybe not.

[@andrewg.carvill4596]

The unclean land of Zan was at the bottom of the waterfall......

[@taleandclawrock2606]

My Dads from Malta, and since childhood ive had recurring dreams of beautiful ancient villages drowned forever by the Atlantic (Mediteranean Sea) ocean. But that couldnt be a genetic memory, 5 plus million years ago, or could it? We fond such a small percentage of fossils, which represent a tiny percentage of life.....the dates for humans keep getting pushed back as our science grows. Then theres ancient writings and artefacts and buildings that were more advanced, way way older than the primitive works that came after them, maps showing now-undersea coastlines ...... Cart tracks running into the sea. So im going to trust my dreams are memories of my ancestors, and wait for science to catch up. ❤

[@nessa-parmentier]

For what we know, there is a layer of salt under most of the mediterranean, which would come from this event. The sea drying up didn't take the salt with it, it stayed there. Creating a layer of salt that simultaneously reflected sunlight in a way that made temperatures ramp up, and stopped most life from being able to flourish there. Most lilely the dried out sea was a hellish desert, maybe even worse than current day Sahara, except for the few areas around rivers. And even then it would only help in the immediate surrounding of rivers, not the wider area, because of the salt

[@rikk319]

Genetic memory? You're talking Assassin's Creed video game stuff, not real biology. The oldest humans, homo sapiens at least, ones that built architecture, only date back to 250,000 years ago, and no ruins we've discovered even go back 10,000 years ago. This flood happened 5-6 million years ago, before even the earliest hominid ancestors of ours. What you're thinking about is when various ice ages caused sea levels to reduce, during the era of humankind, several thousand years ago, when people could have built on those lands.

[@justayoutuber1906]

The music is annoying and unnecessary

[@daniggcc]

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0012825219302521

[@moped975]

Das ist gerade mal 3500 Jahre her. Unsere prähistorische Zeitrechnung krankt an ein paar Nullen zuviel.

[@TheAnarchitek]

I suspect the "giant flood through Gibraltar" was an EXIT phenomenon, not an "entry". The water came out of the Bosporus/Dardanelles, from the (now-empty) Great Asian Sea, that had separated Asia from Europe, east-west, and Asia from India through a series of marshes, fens, swamps, and small-to-medium lakes. There is no word in Sanskrit, or the languages it was taken from, for "ocean". For this to be true, there must have been no oceans, or if there were one, it was too far away to be known by these ancients. Looking at the map, it isn't hard to see how that could be, even with the Himalayas removed. The Proto-Indo-European people originated on the slopes of the Himalayas, about 2,000 miles from where they emerged on the Russian Steppes, circa the mid-23rd Century BC, on the borders of that same "Great Asian Sea" I mentioned, where their first kingdoms rose. Some of these survivors returned to India, where they created Sanskrit, from whatever languages they'd been using, before, circa 2000BC-1800BC. The PIE people would go on to invent many of the world's languages, marking them as one of the main groups of survivors, and linking people from Ireland to India, Germany to North America, and beyond. The flow direction can still be seen, erupting through the narrows, and across the body of Asia Minor, into the Aegean Sea (undoubtedly a large lake, at the time), digging out the deeper end of the Mediterranean, then across the Grecian mainland, doing more excavating, the way rushing water does, in the Adriatic, continuing across Italy, into the Tyrrhenian Sea, before washing over Sardinia and Corsica, to empty out across the Provence, finally, into the Bay of Biscay, where a trough can be seen, starting forty miles off the (present-day) shores, out to more than one hundred miles. More of the water escaped across Africa proper, first, at Libya, down to the Gulf of Guinea, and later, across Algeria, into Mauritania, to empty into the mid-Atlantic, near Cape Verde. It probably took less time to complete than we realize, but the few survivors were too busy thanking their lucky stars to notice how the world had changed (humans are too small, to see very far, or notice much). There may not have been many people in the western Mediterranean, at the time, but those who lived there quickly built massive stone fortifications, begging the question, "What were they protecting themselves from?" The survivors sought shelter from high water, high winds, fires from volcanoes, forest fires, brush fires, and earthquakes unlike any we've experienced. In ancient Rome, according to one source, there were 2,000 earthquakes in one year. What works most effectively against these kinds of dangers? Stone, stone, and stone. What do we find, in our most ancient ruins? Thick stone walls, in some cases, so immense, we could not move them, today. The ancient past was very different from what we are told, by "experts". ©BW2024 04/18/2024 anarchitek™

[@notfeedynotlazy]

TL;DR

[@TheAnarchitek]

@@notfeedynotlazy ?*;&?

[@TheAnarchitek]

@@notfeedynotlazy Sorry for your incuriosity.

[@rikk319]

Step one of inoculating people against skepticism and incredulity: Dismiss out of hand the "experts" and claim to be the only one with the "truth".

[@TheAnarchitek]

​@@rikk319 "Step One" of pushing a false narrative is insisting it was delivered by an unimpeachable source. Religion-with-a-capital-R was bor in the 12th Century BC. Know what else happened? The Fall of Empires, a puzzling collapse of civilization that historians, archaeologists, and religious fanatics endlessly argue and hypothesize about, happened during that fateful century. Televangelists have further blurred our comprehension of ancient past, by milking the belief in "God", by the gullible, a belief that grew out of a series of titanic events, to aid in fleecing those naifs of trillions of dollars. Add to that the disconnect that seems to have happened between five and six thousand years ago, when something cut off mankind from the 95%+ of our forebears, leaving the Sumerians, the Egyptians, and whomever built those stone palaces in the Andes, and in the Amazon. We really have no idea who they were, and new discoveries reveal a large civilization that lived in the Amazon area, before it was the rainforest of the world. I say this, because no one in their right mind would have tried, and succeeded, to build the cities it appears they did, and then deserted, or were (probably) washed away from, by the cataclysms I mentioned. When you care to read a narrative that links all (well. "many of") the "unexplained" (translation: "don't fit comfortably into their narrative") phenomena, I'm your guy. I've been researching these stories about fifty years longer than you've existed on this planet, and writing about them for more than forty years. Along the way, I've refined my theory, disposing of some items that were probably from even earlier events than the period I talk about, and further exploring those that occurred during the nearly-two-millennia period I outline. Earth bears tremendous (sized) scars, indicating a far more violent past than we're told. Some of those scars would have led to massive remodeling of the planet's surface, in their making, as I suggested in my original comment. I can only guess at the overwhelming terror the events inspired in the inhabitants of the planet, but our species carries a full spectrum of psychic scars: Fears and phobias, racism, and beliefs in some very weird practices meant to "unlock" the mysteries of the universe (Obeah, Voodoo, Alchemy, beliefs in the Godhood of earthly rulers, and other pagan practices, among them). We marvel at the monuments of the past, the Pyramids, Stonehenge, Machu Picchu, and the carved caves of India, but we cannot explain their existence, beyond bizarre theories of "ramps", and behaviors that fly in the face of reason. The ancient past, before 700BC, was chaotic, deadly, and bizarre. Things happened, that we have "stories" about, that are beyond the pale. Why would those stories have been passed down? Amusement? Really? They are "garbled" versions of the "truth" known by ancient peoples, who told them to grandchildren, who told them to grandchildren, who repeated the process, even long after they had "forgotten", or lost touch with, the original source material that inspired them. Only the Bible, the Old Testament and the Books of the Hebrew Bible, are taken seriously, and even then, "allowances" are made, in that belief. Religion is the oldest, most successful, and most dangerous, business of all time. Televangelists have become so divorced from the original meanings, laws, and beliefs, they openly beg for "more money". Back in the '80s, Oral Roberts threatened the "faithful", in order to raise money for his failing parochial school, telling them, "God is going to take me home", if they didn't pony up more cash! More recently, a Black televangelist insisted he had to have ANOTHER Gulfsteam jet, bigger and better than the FOUR he already had! Religion has lost its moorings, because, inevitably, lies catch up with the liars. Or, if you prefer, God has had enough! Many purported religious "leaders" urge their parishoners to vote for Donnie Dingbat, despite his abhorrent behavior, disgusting history, and vile treatment of almost everyone. If there is an antiChrist, it would be that monster, Yet, organized religion believes he is their answer, to "bring about" the Rapture, a 14th Century AD (2,600 years AFTER the beginning of Religion, and 1,400+ years after the arrival of Christ, sent as God's representative), that is as much fantasy as it is a real threat to the security of the world. Crazy people do no care, and there aren't many crazier than zealots of any description. Lastly, you refer to the "experts", who do not agree on many things outside each one's discipline. Arcaheologists have discovered the existence of magnetic resonance in pottery that causes the wet clay to adopt Earth's magnetic signature, in the conversion to pottery, ceramics, or porcelain. This allows them to rebuild the pottery in the kiln, or the kiln from the pottery, but, but, but, they've found pottery with SEVEN (7) different orientations for north! Yet, Geologists deny that ANY such dislocation of the polar regions has happened within the history of man. Geolgists do not talk to archaeologists, who do no talk to historians, who do not consult paleobotanists, and on, and on, and on. Earth was subjected to 1,700 years of torment, confusion, death, and destruction, on a world-wide scale. Something of the sort could have been responsible for that gulf I mentioned, before, between the origins of modern civilization, 5,000+/- years ago, and the as-long-as 295,000 years of homo sapiens (our species) existence, before that! Before the Sumerian/Egyptian arrival, we know very, very little. We find scattered campsites, and intriguing suggestions of people, but not much substance. It can be stated as a ration, 5,000ya vs all the rest, as to our knowledge, and understanding, at 98% to 2%, and about 98% of the first 98% is the 2,750 years SINCE the events that caused men to quake in their boots ended. ©BW2024 04/27/2024 anarchitek™

[@psychos1s.]

The next aral sea is mediterranean sea

[@cow1816]

Ahem... *Burgundy*

[@tesserae-c2y]

ATLANTROPA

[@daughterofkingjesus7350]

What about todays news, the disaster that happened in 🇱🇾 Libya. Two dam's broke possible, killing 5000 people. All in one day. With the earth changing. The Mediterranean Sea could soon be filled back up completely. We just have to keep watch on what's going on in our surroundings. It's time to take life more seriously.😢

[@Tjalve70]

The Med is already filled up completely. No reason to fear something that has already happened millions of years ago. Also, those dams in Libya broke because Libya is currently a failed state, and have been unable to maintain the infrastructure.

[@rikk319]

Two dams broke recently, after hundreds and thousands of years of dams, bridges, and other infrastructure breaking here and there, and you think NOW we should take life more seriously? Talk about self-centered.

[@monkey_gamer_001]

What evidence is there for this?

[@Tjalve70]

The rivers flowing into the Med have carved out river valleys deep below what is currently the sea level. And there is a layer of salt below the ocean floor, that could only have been deposited if the Med had dried out. Also the video does describe canyons being carved out at Gibraltar and Sicily. It is also very plausible that this COULD have happened. Since Europe and Africa are on different tectonic plates, that are currently spreading apart. So there is no reason to believe it didn't happen. The only question is how fast it happened.

[@thingonathinginathing]

Wait... so if that's how the Mediterranean Sea was formed, then that doesn't answer how the Mediterranean Sea was formed! Lol How was it formed for *the first time* ???

[@DavidOfWhitehills]

You're asking the internet ?

[@thingonathinginathing]

@@DavidOfWhitehills No, I was asking you, David of White Hills

[@originaldcjensen]

Continental drift.

[@Tjalve70]

The Med was originally formed because it is situated between two tectonic plates. Look up "Tethys Ocean". That was probably what the Med was before it became he Med.

[@d.........]

This is wrong map. 6 millions years ago Europe looked another.

[@originaldcjensen]

Six million years is a blink of the eye to Earth, it really hasn't changed much in that time. Mostly erosion and water levels.

[@egeciran1785]

Europe and asia were distinct continents around 65 million years ago

[@StefanWestermann-ri6fn]

nette märchen

[@Losowy]

Prove otherwise

[@JanasZoro]

Migrants can now come by foot

[@PaddyIrishman]

This proves Islam is correct.

[@Tjalve70]

1: No, it probably doesn't. 2: In which way in particular do you think it proves that?

[@PaddyIrishman]

@@Tjalve70 In on way whatsoever. Total sarcasm as I am sure there is some Islamist who will say or has already said something this stupid.

[@Tjalve70]

@@PaddyIrishman So I fell victim to Poe's Law. Fair enough. That happens.

[@PaddyIrishman]

@@Tjalve70 Yes, it does.

[@rikk319]

There's always someone who posts these kinds of things. Go on a Star Wars video, and someone inevitably mentions how bad the sequels are, even if the video topic isn't on the sequels. Always someone who tries to harsh everyone else's good vibes.

[@davidgreen7392]

How the hell do you really know this for sure? It's not like you can detect old rivers and flood paths, on the bottom of the sea. A bit of a stretch.

[@oriolpujolmartinez7268]

But we know the topography under the sea and I guess that with this information you can simulate the water dynamics and movement through that orography

[@CCat52]

It's like they can do exactly that -- chart erosion patterns on the bottom of the Mediterranean.

[@daniggcc]

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0012825219302521

[@sigisoltau6073]

There's also a salt layer under the ocean sediment. This salt layer is hundreds of meters thick in some places. There's also gravel deposits in many areas where rivers enter the ocean, hundreds of kilometers from the coast. The salt and gravel are among the evidence that shows the Mediterranean Sea was dry.