Zangief Might Really Be The Best Character

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Nephew

Nephew

Күн бұрын

After seeing Kobayan do so well with the character, it's starting to make sense why Punk, Gachikun and so many other pro players have the grappler as top tier and maybe the best in the game! I've also been wanting to play him more too since he's so fun, so let's head into ranked and get better with the supposed best character in SF6.
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@Caduzin16
@Caduzin16 2 ай бұрын
When the pro's switch to gief i will believe it
@efemji
@efemji 2 ай бұрын
yeah but gief is like specialty character i doubt non gief player will switch to him if they dont really play grappler
@OscarG787
@OscarG787 2 ай бұрын
@@efemjiagreed. Not many pro grappler players to even fill an egg carton.
@lw1094
@lw1094 2 ай бұрын
Not saying gief is good, but Mena plays gief too, in some tournaments
@user-wy1et9dk9w
@user-wy1et9dk9w 2 ай бұрын
This is like expecting everyone to switch to sim because he got buffs. People won’t do it because the play style would be uncomfortable to them. Many people could play guile and it would be considered an upgrade compared to the character they play now, but you already know why they don’t.
@sonicphoenix7
@sonicphoenix7 2 ай бұрын
part 3 of the bottom 1 grappler cycle
@blvk3
@blvk3 2 ай бұрын
it looked so dodgy that its seems that a few ppl are trying to get gief nerfed completely opposite to how they down played ken to dodge the nerf hammer
@usernameluis305
@usernameluis305 2 ай бұрын
Because they play ken, and they don't play zangief. Simple as that
@hatefulvengeance
@hatefulvengeance 2 ай бұрын
​@@usernameluis305 Reminds me of mk11 scorpion reborn. Which for the first season online just had uncounterable frame traps, so everyone just spammed those and never learned to play the game. So when he was nerfed, all his players spent more time whining about the balance patch then actually learning the fundamentals of the game!
@usernameluis305
@usernameluis305 2 ай бұрын
@@hatefulvengeance it's gonna happen to Johnny cage mains
@Kenpachi_White707
@Kenpachi_White707 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been saying this since street fighter 2 lol. Iron giant, king, zengief all good. These grapplers get good in ONE game!!! People start losing their minds. lol
@BlackTestament
@BlackTestament 2 ай бұрын
Ken when he has near infinite combos, reliable fireballs, and overall great pressure: I sleep Grappler, Exists: NERFS! NERF! HE NEEDS A NERF
@jeyraxel
@jeyraxel 2 ай бұрын
@@BlackTestament ... You are not describing Ken. I think you are the one who's sleeping.
@chankifung4e
@chankifung4e 2 ай бұрын
@@BlackTestamentlets not act like people havent been complaining about Ken since the 1st month
@BlackTestament
@BlackTestament 2 ай бұрын
@@chankifung4e That's a good point actually i aint even gonna deny that XD
@Kenpachi_White707
@Kenpachi_White707 2 ай бұрын
@@BlackTestament I mean I can’t be the only person to see this bull. Same 5 characters do the same thing but better every game since the beginning of gaming but zengief becomes ok for 5 seconds that’s it. It’s crazy.
@silvercrate
@silvercrate 2 ай бұрын
I just think geif uses the drive gauge system really well and is all around solid. And that boy be stripping your gauge
@DrSwazz
@DrSwazz 2 ай бұрын
He doesn’t use it well. He has a terrible drive rush and gauge usage and burns it for most of his combos. The only difference now is he’s able to burn yours as quickly as he burns his own.
@Aefax
@Aefax 2 ай бұрын
​@@DrSwazz lol gief main opinion discarded
@ironknit
@ironknit 2 ай бұрын
​@DrSwazz his drive rush is not bad lol, his buttons off drive rush are great which is what makes it good. Just cause its kinda slow dosent mean it isnt great for the character.
@DrSwazz
@DrSwazz 2 ай бұрын
@@Aefax I'm sorry you can't handle the facts
@DrSwazz
@DrSwazz 2 ай бұрын
@@ironknit His drive rush is bad. His buttons are good, but that doesn't make up for a bad drive rush. If Deejay's drive rush led to bad buttons, it would still be really good. He's in your face from anywhere on the screen.
@chefkennyeats
@chefkennyeats 2 ай бұрын
Saying Zangief is better than Ken, Akuma, Jp, Cammy, Bison, Blanka, Luke,Juri, certified Brain rot
@williamcase426
@williamcase426 2 ай бұрын
the gief is king 👑
@TheTourage
@TheTourage 2 ай бұрын
Bruh, you kind of thick in the head for taking the click bait from a Juri player. You’re too soft to play Gief, anyway. From the selection of characters above, I take it that you’re a green ranger who abuses the drive meter and throw loops, lol. Bustah
@Rand8688
@Rand8688 2 ай бұрын
You know maybe so but since he never is top one EVER maybe let the Giefs of the world have their ken, yun, Chun li moment I mean Jesus Christ and don't underestimate the skill of Kobayan and snake eyez they are actually super skilled players not just benefitting from high spot on the tier list
@DrSwazz
@DrSwazz 2 ай бұрын
Kobayan and Snake Eyez were cooking people even when he was bottom tier lmao
@blastimbre
@blastimbre 2 ай бұрын
Nah, let my character be top tier, not yours. lol
@DrSwazz
@DrSwazz 2 ай бұрын
@@blastimbre XD
@jaiden3473
@jaiden3473 2 ай бұрын
Cause nobody likes playing against a strong grappler. Nobody likes losing a match off of one or two wrong guesses, and that’s what grapplers excel at
@Rand8688
@Rand8688 2 ай бұрын
I watched Topanga the whole thing I challenge you to find the match where TWO wrong guesses and only two gave koba the win also given the drive rush extensions and super damage every character can win with a couple right guesses if played absolutely optimal your problem is they are getting a bunch of damage off one move input and the pressure that exerts also his combos were just like everyone else's drive rush extensions into super the real problem is the tech of wake up spd ending on up button press giving him a option that beats three offensive options in one it's old tech actually but might need to be fixed however other characters and do it too so idk what they'll decide on it but basically meaty is the only way to beat it id suggest watching vesper arcade video on it
@chumbeke6045
@chumbeke6045 2 ай бұрын
I think people underestimate how good players like Kobayan really are. Instead of praising the player, people just cry and blame the character. Unfortunately, grapplers are doomed to be low tier in every game because players will complain instead of learning and adapting to their opponent Edit: Damn, people really got salty with this comment lmao. Just to clarify, Zangief IS very strong this patch, his 50/50 game is more dangerous thanks to his drive gauge damage, but it does not take away the fact thay he takes a big risk every time he tries to SPD. Btw, I haven't seen any player dominating at EVO with this "broken" character. You just can't tolerate a grappler being strong, but I guess it's fine having your main or the same characters in top 5 in every game.
@javiergiandinotto1053
@javiergiandinotto1053 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, tic/throw Mixup which both does nearly 4k, balanced
@PlunderinGrunt
@PlunderinGrunt 2 ай бұрын
Why can't it be both? I don't know whether Gief is Top 1 - but you have to be crazy to think he's not one of the scariest characters in this version of SF6. His ability to generate drive gauge for himself while stripping away his opponents' drive gauge with his normals is really good - to a point where opponents have trouble initiating offense vs Gief without risking burnout. Kobayan/Itazan/Snake Eyez deserve their due, but I don't think it's just pros "crying and blaming" grapplers - Gief's strengths play really well in this patch.
@chumbeke6045
@chumbeke6045 2 ай бұрын
@@PlunderinGrunt Oh I do agree that Zangief is very strong this patch. However, we cannot deny that players have complained more about Zangief than other characters that could also be considered top tier such as Rashid, Akuma, Guile, etc. (Or at least that's most of the things I've read about this patch). And sadly that's probably because Zangief is a grappler, which is an archetype that is very uncommon being that strong
@chumbeke6045
@chumbeke6045 2 ай бұрын
@@javiergiandinotto1053 Not a big issue if you consider the risk/reward
@Victor-oc8gs
@Victor-oc8gs 2 ай бұрын
Grapplers always had zoner characters as bad matchups, in this game zoning as a whole is non-existent or at the least toned down in respect to the gameplay style. The days of 7-3 matchups are gone for gief it seems and I'm not that that unhappy with it even though I don't use him. SF6 might be his time to shine and I'm all for it as long as its not too over the top.
@OscarG787
@OscarG787 2 ай бұрын
They underestimating not getting command grabbed. 😤
@DrSwazz
@DrSwazz 2 ай бұрын
Scoop city out here
@williamcase426
@williamcase426 2 ай бұрын
Scoop em up
@ragingxavier2691
@ragingxavier2691 2 ай бұрын
You don't just skip "NO MERCY! NO REMORSE! DORRIIIAAA"
@jp.cupulille
@jp.cupulille 2 ай бұрын
Sorry!!! Hahahaha
@williamcase426
@williamcase426 2 ай бұрын
Hell yea
@biscotti3972
@biscotti3972 2 ай бұрын
Everytime I play against zangeif, it feels like im playing a multiple choice question test rather than actually fighting. Then when Im not taking this test he has quick neutral combos as fast as cammys but with longer limbs
@ThePigeonStoop
@ThePigeonStoop 2 ай бұрын
Alright both players and tournament players need to stop complaining about grapplers. Any top 5 gets 60% with nickelodeon slime and better strike throw mix ups than grapplers. Meanwhile one throw gets us 30% and no oki.
@MrShagification
@MrShagification 2 ай бұрын
50% unblockable for 1 input. Grapplers will never not get shit. They can do nothing the majority of the match and just win off a single random unblockable. Grapplers deserve nothing
@personalemail9329
@personalemail9329 2 ай бұрын
​@@MrShagificationsounds like you have skill issue.
@Ozeki_Negima
@Ozeki_Negima 2 ай бұрын
SF6 rewards reckless aggression... and that falls right into Zangief's trap. People who play Gief with crazy rushdown will get scooped and instead of adjusting their game, they complain about how broken grapplers are.
@plannedtuna8293
@plannedtuna8293 2 ай бұрын
Kobayan just went undefeated in Topanga League finals. Do you think all the top Japanese players are losing to him because they can’t play any way except “reckless aggression”?
@personalemail9329
@personalemail9329 2 ай бұрын
​​@@plannedtuna8293that's an outlier, how many other geif mains are doing great compared to someone like Akuma? Bison?. Don't use outlier to justify an objectively shit take.
@Shakenbake-in9ux
@Shakenbake-in9ux 2 ай бұрын
I like how streamers can just make videos to drive narrative to convince capcom to nerf characters they dont like to play against
@iaugust.
@iaugust. 2 ай бұрын
or maybe zangief actually is just very strong right now lol
@DrSwazz
@DrSwazz 2 ай бұрын
That is their job yes
@wildrussiansnake8978
@wildrussiansnake8978 2 ай бұрын
Zamgief is very strong right now XD, you just hating becos u don't want ur character nerfed.
@Dabear3234
@Dabear3234 2 ай бұрын
@@iaugust. about fuggin time he is strong for once
@Aefax
@Aefax 2 ай бұрын
i love how theres so many of you gief mains crying and sobbing in these comments cause ur character is broken for once and u dont want them to balance their game 😂😂😂😂
@CGProductionsOfficial
@CGProductionsOfficial 2 ай бұрын
I don't often notice this, but i really like your video edit style, its so smooth and dynamic, keep it up my goat 🙌🏻
@jp.cupulille
@jp.cupulille 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, really glad to read that!
@lorden95
@lorden95 2 ай бұрын
@@jp.cupulille whenever i see a super i reach over to skip it. But then its edited out and im like. Hell yeah
@jp.cupulille
@jp.cupulille 2 ай бұрын
@@lorden95 hahahahaha yeah, glad that now we don't have to see the supers!!!
@MigBee2
@MigBee2 2 ай бұрын
@@jp.cupulillethat wolf edit is so funny, pls keep up the silly bits 🔥
@jp.cupulille
@jp.cupulille 2 ай бұрын
@@MigBee2hahahaha yeah man, I’m going to try to keep that little things, but it’s really hard for me to be creative EVERY video hahaha but thank you for the support! :)
@thiago4santos
@thiago4santos 2 ай бұрын
Zangief is super fun to play and also watch. Sf6 is the best fg.
@jjog2895
@jjog2895 2 ай бұрын
Im new to fighting games and ppl in this community doesn't seem to understand that characters have diff skill floor and ceilings. A good character that most cant do well with doesnt mean its bad. A characters worth is determined by how good it is in the right hands, not how easy it is to pick it up as a noob.
@JuicyLeek
@JuicyLeek 2 ай бұрын
Yessss I want to see another Zangier video!
@J.DAV_
@J.DAV_ 2 ай бұрын
This is the most expressive I’ve seen of Nephew 😂 6:09
@kazutomotakayoshtosh
@kazutomotakayoshtosh 2 ай бұрын
nah, fr though
@badtzkoala8345
@badtzkoala8345 2 ай бұрын
Geif mains: WHY DOES HE SUCK AWWWW Geif mains after he’s good: y’all just wanna nerf him I can’t believe everyone is talking about how he’s good
@HeDronHeDronHedron
@HeDronHeDronHedron 2 ай бұрын
bro gief players will lose ONE game and go "AW HIS BUTTONS FUCKING SUCK WAHHHH" and never blame themselves for losing
@AntLeonardi01
@AntLeonardi01 2 ай бұрын
Saying gief is better than Bison is fucking ridiculous.
@noxiansummoner1730
@noxiansummoner1730 2 ай бұрын
Gief IS better. Especially against Bison.
@snoww9807
@snoww9807 2 ай бұрын
@@noxiansummoner1730 bro what 😭
@Evilj82
@Evilj82 2 ай бұрын
Bison is annoying, Zangief is scary . That’s the difference. When I play Cammy, I find Gief way harder. Gief is also better in long sets.
@noxiansummoner1730
@noxiansummoner1730 2 ай бұрын
@@snoww9807 Bison has no tools to keep Gief out and no reversals at all. Its pretty much classic since SF4 to have Gief as a bad MU
@electricboogaloo11
@electricboogaloo11 2 ай бұрын
Gief, Akuma and Bison are in a tier of their own and need nerfs urgently
@sporkmclork
@sporkmclork 2 ай бұрын
I swear like half the FGC streamers just have Persona music in the background of their videos.
@Bleachpie8
@Bleachpie8 2 ай бұрын
Command grapplers in 6 are underrated.
@blvk3
@blvk3 2 ай бұрын
@@Bleachpie8 grabs are important part of the game play when there is a patty system
@ogopogo1109
@ogopogo1109 2 ай бұрын
Keep in mind these tier list are from the perspective of a pro player who are up against other extremely skilled pro such as Kobayan who can consistently pull off jump cancel SPD, I highly doubt they meant Gief is top 1 outside of the very top level of competitive play.
@amandaandandrewstover3304
@amandaandandrewstover3304 2 ай бұрын
Idk about being a top tier. But sometimes those grabs reach much further than you'd thing they should.
@DistortedV12
@DistortedV12 2 ай бұрын
So Kobayan and SnakeEyez not going to Evo?
@zerevity007
@zerevity007 2 ай бұрын
right
@whataderk
@whataderk 2 ай бұрын
I can’t not for the life of me do a standing 720 on hitbox. I have watched all the videos I can and practiced it but still can’t do it. Anyone have any tips?
@Bleachpie8
@Bleachpie8 2 ай бұрын
Seems like from now on, Capcom will nerf characters in one area and buff their weak areas. Excellent video.
@HawtDawg420
@HawtDawg420 2 ай бұрын
the editing lmao 🤣
@jp.cupulille
@jp.cupulille 2 ай бұрын
Glad that you liked!!!
@ObiDan
@ObiDan 2 ай бұрын
the edit is a little differnt, i liked it. 👌what is the song on 1:50?
@jp.cupulille
@jp.cupulille 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! It's Persona PSP School Days :)
@DavidTector
@DavidTector 2 ай бұрын
Gief is strong for sure, I notice a big difference in the matchup as a JP main but I like that he's a viable character against all matchups. It's still a volatile matchup for him. And I don't want to hear about any nerfs to Gief before I see actual adjustments to Bison, idc that he lacks certain tools the tools he has are absolutely way too strong. And the fact that all the meta chasers habe moved from JP to Bison and Akuma is enough evidence imo.
@sneakytako99
@sneakytako99 2 ай бұрын
I wish we coulda got your thoughts on gief at the end of the video
@captainjumptoast
@captainjumptoast 2 ай бұрын
The sequence at 6:31 made me laugh so hard.
@eatdahl
@eatdahl 2 ай бұрын
Hes a joke character. Giving him so much movement and then high damage on top of that
@thegabaghoul93
@thegabaghoul93 2 ай бұрын
The risk reward for perfect parrying zangief is not worth it💀
@RealGhostface-y9b
@RealGhostface-y9b 2 ай бұрын
Just play footsies lel
@aainalaina
@aainalaina 2 ай бұрын
It’s about time he’s actually viable man 😂
@TheShotgunShovel
@TheShotgunShovel 2 ай бұрын
And lemme guess. Ken is also the worst shoto too, right? Or was it Akuma? Be honest pros... You know Zangief gets demoed by your corner pressure...
@Valpremier
@Valpremier 2 ай бұрын
Kobayan is just so GOOD !! GODLIKE
@G0rgar
@G0rgar 2 ай бұрын
Hey that first Bison was one of the guys from JWong's competition thing. He was a Marisa player.
@DjGaiden
@DjGaiden 2 ай бұрын
Yeah! He was inconsistent, but when he was on he looked unbeatable lol
@Leahs_Dad
@Leahs_Dad 2 ай бұрын
Editor in their bag for this one lmao
@jp.cupulille
@jp.cupulille 2 ай бұрын
Hahaha yeah, I’m going to try and keep that style of editing, the feedbacks are pretty good, thank you btw :)
@Leahs_Dad
@Leahs_Dad 2 ай бұрын
@@jp.cupulille great work man, keep it up! Your talent shining for sure
@МирославКръстев-с7и
@МирославКръстев-с7и 2 ай бұрын
It's also funny how Cammy was seen as mid-tier, then she got nerfed and now that Punk won EVO, people are putting her in top 5 lmao
@williamcase426
@williamcase426 2 ай бұрын
don't underestimate the gief
@johnjohnston8703
@johnjohnston8703 Ай бұрын
Very very dangerous character. 3 to 4 spinning pile drivers and uour dead. He can combo into them. Combo into his level 3 to 5 critical art which will take over half your life. Some of his moves go through fireballs amd he has the most armour on the game.They buffed the crap out of him.
@mehbanette9762
@mehbanette9762 2 ай бұрын
I will never be convinced that a character who’s best wake-up is a lvl 3 super command grab is Top 1 or even Top 5, he’s really good this season for sure, but you guys are tripping a bit too much
@Spacey813
@Spacey813 2 ай бұрын
He can also jump spd to counter a throw. Pretty good
@mehbanette9762
@mehbanette9762 2 ай бұрын
@@Spacey813 that is pretty good, but I don’t understand why everyone doesn’t just meaty jab instead of taking that risk (assuming every Gief knows how to do that)
@LakeEarth
@LakeEarth 2 ай бұрын
I agree. I'm fine with calling him in S-tier, but I don't think a character with multiple bad matchups should be placed at the top slot.
@jq7073
@jq7073 2 ай бұрын
@@LakeEarthidk this patch his multiple bad matchups aren’t even that bad especially with drive rush it’s a completely different game for gief hit strike is super powerful and he does a pretty damn good job at it against a majority of the cast considering he’s supposed to be “low tier”
@LakeEarth
@LakeEarth 2 ай бұрын
@@jq7073 you should look for Master win rates, he's still about 4-6 against Dhalsim and Lily, and 4.5-5.5 for Ed and JP. And he's genuinely S-tier this season, I am not denying that. Just not the #1 guy IMO.
@Kurosaki54
@Kurosaki54 2 ай бұрын
Yes, more gief videos please!
@KrunchM
@KrunchM 2 ай бұрын
Are you playing Gief on a hitbox? How do you find doing air SPDs?
@HeDronHeDronHedron
@HeDronHeDronHedron 2 ай бұрын
Some players like Punk would say zangief is top tier, but us brave plat redditors know otherwise.
@hewoguys2506
@hewoguys2506 Ай бұрын
imagine if he had a fireball
@Razyel2340
@Razyel2340 2 ай бұрын
Gief top 1, but no one switching to him at Evo 😅
@edsonandradefran4984
@edsonandradefran4984 2 ай бұрын
SF5 Akuma da season 2 era quebrado e ninguém alem de Tokido e Takamura jogavam com ele. Então, qual é o seu ponto?😂 Snake eyez, Kobayan, Itabashi e até mesmo MENARD estão jogando com o char...MENARD que nunca foi de grappler.🤷‍♂️
@alfredosalza6328
@alfredosalza6328 2 ай бұрын
Love the gief content!
@HiResDez
@HiResDez 2 ай бұрын
Can you do the jump cancel consistently?
@heroicsquirrel3195
@heroicsquirrel3195 2 ай бұрын
I always wanna play zangief but 360input on WASD is a pain
@haz-cat7985
@haz-cat7985 2 ай бұрын
2:25 that pic just sent me
@jp.cupulille
@jp.cupulille 2 ай бұрын
auuuuuuuuuuuu
@IVISMiLESIVI
@IVISMiLESIVI 2 ай бұрын
Idk if zangief truly is top 1 but if he is who cares? Its about time another character other than a shoto is.
@kazutomotakayoshtosh
@kazutomotakayoshtosh 2 ай бұрын
2:26 bruh
@Kashype101
@Kashype101 2 ай бұрын
I dont think its zangief I think its the person behind the character example I don't see all the Ken players play Ken like angrybird.
@PuraCaseus
@PuraCaseus 2 ай бұрын
indeed, it's pretty much just MkLeo mentality. People would say Lily is S tier as well if Kobayan or Snake Eyez played her instead.
@gjfwang
@gjfwang 2 ай бұрын
Zangief went from worst to first?
@jondiaz3329
@jondiaz3329 2 ай бұрын
Where are the Giefs in top 8 ???
@pabloX1649
@pabloX1649 2 ай бұрын
@2:03 for the loyal fans
@viridianknight
@viridianknight 2 ай бұрын
thats a good but
@Some1Something
@Some1Something 2 ай бұрын
DSP on suicide watch
@JS-zz9lg
@JS-zz9lg 2 ай бұрын
All I'm saying is thank god I play JP given this monsters buffs lol
@unaffected_covid
@unaffected_covid Ай бұрын
Yo Gief is nice! 💯
@amitsunoko7270
@amitsunoko7270 2 ай бұрын
That's until Rainbow Mika gets tapped in.
@BebederoCR
@BebederoCR 2 ай бұрын
Yes please
@boocebung4177
@boocebung4177 2 ай бұрын
I’m fairly certain most mfs complaining can’t do insta airspd
@Nicomartz52
@Nicomartz52 2 ай бұрын
The history of zangief is being nerfed because players like Kobayan, so.
@planexshifter
@planexshifter 2 ай бұрын
More!!!!
@han3wmanwukong125
@han3wmanwukong125 2 ай бұрын
The fact that Luke and Honda are in the same tier boggles the mind.
@dgw4049
@dgw4049 2 ай бұрын
If you can do jump-cancel spd then Zangief is top5. He loses bad to Rahsid, JP and Sim so certainly not no1.
@shimogamo3133
@shimogamo3133 2 ай бұрын
BUTTTTTT !
@gamebug5112
@gamebug5112 2 ай бұрын
MORE GIEF PLS!
@efemji
@efemji 2 ай бұрын
nerf guile but buff his cr hp
@goodnoodle5224
@goodnoodle5224 2 ай бұрын
Shoutout to the Bison player, Free Palestine ❤
@LifeToATee
@LifeToATee 2 ай бұрын
Quick release the nerfs now. Zangief has had it too good for too long. (3 weeks)
@internetuser259
@internetuser259 2 ай бұрын
My apologies, I wasn't familiar with your game
@IcyTorment
@IcyTorment 2 ай бұрын
Once you see how Zangief sexually harasses Juri at the end of the SPD, you can't unsee it.
@DrSwazz
@DrSwazz 2 ай бұрын
SPD has been sexual harrassment since season 1 bro. #YouveBeenScooped
@YouSaiyan........937
@YouSaiyan........937 2 ай бұрын
Juri had it coming with the bad karma she has built up
@Gnut4
@Gnut4 2 ай бұрын
Gief rant incoming so apologies: Gief is very strong, but not close to top 5. He’s a lower A tier grappler man that could probably use some adjustments in his drive gauge damage and gain ever so slightly, but is in a good spot and does not deserve nerfs. His first main issue is his supers are seriously lacking. Level one is useless outside of fringe combos and hard reads, requiring very good reaction time to utilize it. Both level 1 and 2 are not comboable off of lights, you have to spend drive to combo into them off of lights, something few other characters experience. He can’t combo into level 3 of off juggles and he can only combo into level 1 off of juggles, with level 2 being his only decent combo tool. Level 1 is not a reversal, and level 2 is so slow you can do a meaty 6 frame medium and be safe from it. He can’t combo into lariat off of lights unless he is point blank or spends EX and has no way to punish -4 moves as his CL kick isn’t special cancelable and usually can’t reach when gatlinged into CLP into lariat. This makes his defense especially poor outside of Jump cancel SPD which can be hard to pull off and loses to strikes anyway. He struggles to punish moves due to lack of fast long reaching mediums like a cmk and his best move to whiff punish in neutral is a 7 frame light that requires 3 bars of drive for no damage and light scaling. Lariat is still incredibly spotty as an anti air unless you spend EX. His pressure and drive gauge damage/gain gives him close to best in class offense at the expense of many limitations in his combos and defense. Gief might need some adjustments as Grapplers can be unfun to play against when too strong and he is definitely teetering on that line but he is no where close to top 1 and not deserving of the nerfs I know are coming because of Japan.
@Dabear3234
@Dabear3234 2 ай бұрын
hell stab into lvl 2 on stick is kinda awkward but on pad and box its fine
@YouSaiyan........937
@YouSaiyan........937 2 ай бұрын
Zangief is got himself in a red speedo, like K brad said. "Those Scars arent from battle" Zangief gets laid.
@cosmic5665
@cosmic5665 2 ай бұрын
The amount of people crying about gief really want the meta to be as boring as possible
@DrSwazz
@DrSwazz 2 ай бұрын
Only Akuma and Ken and Ryu get to be at the top. We demand our vanilla ice cream.
@deaditedude9201
@deaditedude9201 2 ай бұрын
Sorry this is shoto fighter 6
@heroicsquirrel3195
@heroicsquirrel3195 2 ай бұрын
Ikr, let gief players cook ffs, im so sick of cammy, ken, luke, akuma constantly online all doing the exact same stuff
@imd3rrtyd4n
@imd3rrtyd4n 2 ай бұрын
get gief to legendary rank
@bardicsheep9990
@bardicsheep9990 2 ай бұрын
I like grapper characters, but with Zangief's case I feel like some of his moves have ridiculous range. It's annoying to play footsies or neutral when the animation and hitbox range dont match up - it's very misleading.
@DrSwazz
@DrSwazz 2 ай бұрын
His moves are mostly the same from Season 1
@Aefax
@Aefax 2 ай бұрын
​@@DrSwazz lol are yall really just out here blatantly lying to try to stop the nerf
@heroicsquirrel3195
@heroicsquirrel3195 2 ай бұрын
Yeah its crazy, im chilling like 3 feet away and get command grabbed doing a light punch😂
@DrSwazz
@DrSwazz 2 ай бұрын
@@Aefax His normals literally haven't changed since season 1. His buffs were conversions, punish counter routes, and faster SA gauge gain. So his normals aren't why he's better.
@mastermoose8390
@mastermoose8390 2 ай бұрын
Aite this shit pissing me off. He literally doesn’t have a wake up reversal, a drive rush cancelable low or an invincible level 1. Reduce the cap please SF6 community. Y’all let a grappler be A tier and lost all sense.
@XLBlades
@XLBlades 2 ай бұрын
A jump Spd that covers 3 options is better than an reversal
@Spacey813
@Spacey813 2 ай бұрын
Having a drive rush cancelable low would make him broken Tho. He already has the longest reach ingame aside from dhalsim.
@thesneakingbox4254
@thesneakingbox4254 2 ай бұрын
Also people don’t understand how shitty his level 2 is unless it’s in a combo or catching a fireball. The opponent has 9 years to react to it outside of those situations
@qdog8367
@qdog8367 2 ай бұрын
​Jump cancel spd better than reversal? In general? Lol Well at least we know you're trolling now ​@@XLBlades
@InterstellarBrad
@InterstellarBrad 2 ай бұрын
@@XLBlades This is incredibly difficult to pull of consistently, and not really practical in most situations. More often than not, you're just gambling when yout JC SPD.
@mattmalco10
@mattmalco10 2 ай бұрын
My goodness people are working overtime to get Gief nerfed. They can nerf Gief as long as they are nerfing Ken Chun Li Guile and Akuma with him
@NeverGiveUp-hn1qk
@NeverGiveUp-hn1qk 2 ай бұрын
The FGC is a disgrace straight up if you guys think gief is S tier do me a favor: Go pick gief and use him against ed, guile, dhalsim, Manon, Lily, Aki, Juri and fight preferably 1700+ MR opponents and come back and still tell me do you feel that way majority of yall would get your ass whooped using Gief straight up
@sevennights6377
@sevennights6377 2 ай бұрын
HE'S LITERALLY DOING THAT IN THE VIDEOOOOOO
@NeverGiveUp-hn1qk
@NeverGiveUp-hn1qk 2 ай бұрын
@sevennights6377 this doesn't even showcase that gief is top tier thats the point
@puchimausu
@puchimausu 2 ай бұрын
The only thing I’d change is jump cancel spd
@TheTourage
@TheTourage 2 ай бұрын
Ewww, a Juri player using Zangief. What did my boy do to deserve such an insult. lol.
@wildzide
@wildzide 2 ай бұрын
How can a character with so many bad MUs be top 1? You have to be a crackhead to think Zangief is better than Akuma, Rashid, Guile or Ken.
@DrSwazz
@DrSwazz 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. People just cant handle getting #scooped
@Aefax
@Aefax 2 ай бұрын
what are all these bad matchups you're talking about? go head and list them
@KingSlayerGoose
@KingSlayerGoose 2 ай бұрын
​@@Aefax JP Sim Guile Lily Blanka Chun Luke Ken Juri Y'all just bad tbh
@calebthome6929
@calebthome6929 2 ай бұрын
More gief
@limelight58able
@limelight58able 2 ай бұрын
No offense to Nephew and them, but I'd honestly like to hear a die-hard Zangief main say this. Those guys (Snake Eyez, Kobayan, Itabashi) have been pretty quiet about Zangief's current placing on tier charts 🤔
@WestLightz
@WestLightz 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I wonder why lol
@InterstellarBrad
@InterstellarBrad 2 ай бұрын
Snake downplays everything and isn't really a tournament player anymore. Kobayan and Itabashi probably have said something, but they haven't been translated. As Gief main, I think he's really good. Not top 3, but definitely in the top 8. Matchups that are still troublesome are Ed, Sim, Lily, some Guiles, and Marisa.
@DrSwazz
@DrSwazz 2 ай бұрын
Gief mains were playing him before he was buffed
@Aefax
@Aefax 2 ай бұрын
you wonder why snake eyes downplays his character? you really can't think of why he might downplay his character? you cant think of that on your own?
@twelvevoltage
@twelvevoltage 2 ай бұрын
Literally f*** this anti-grappler propaganda gief isn't even top 1 in an alternate universe where he has green hand. It's gonna suck when capcom nerfs him bc people can't handle losing to a grappler
@Aefax
@Aefax 2 ай бұрын
downplay. yawn
@caesarfrompersona3fes731
@caesarfrompersona3fes731 2 ай бұрын
​@@Aefax get good scrub.
@moiseszapata1535
@moiseszapata1535 2 ай бұрын
grapplers in any fighting game make the game unfun.
@sorensouthard927
@sorensouthard927 2 ай бұрын
I feel like zangief should be a mid-tier simply because grapplers are emblematic of the struggle.
@hissenguinho
@hissenguinho 2 ай бұрын
Lmfao. Here comes the horde of Zangief downplayers putting him in bottom 3 😂😂
@HeDronHeDronHedron
@HeDronHeDronHedron 2 ай бұрын
I saw someone on an anti zangief tech guide for season 2 saying that you're trash if you need a guide on how to beat the worst character in the game. The downplay never ends
@vman8835
@vman8835 2 ай бұрын
Games trash
@supergooglelee
@supergooglelee 2 ай бұрын
Brain dead Luke and Ken players complaining about jump cancel SPDs like it is as easy as their scrubby flowchart combos.😂 They forget so fast they scrubbed their way through in S1 just pressing cr mp / cr mk until it hits and mashing like dogs. NOW GET SCOOPED! 😁 And yes Ken is still broken so please Capcom nerf him proper. 🙏
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