Transformers - The Travesty of the Rhino DVDs

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Zaranyzerak

Zaranyzerak

Күн бұрын

Join the Official World of Zaranyzerak discord server: / discord In the 5th part of my ongoing series of review about the various releases of Transformers (the original G1 cartoon), I take a closer look at the first ever DVD releases and why they should be avoided like the plague. Not sure why so many fans hate Rhino's DVD sets of Transformers? Watch and learn...

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@tuxedomark
@tuxedomark 10 жыл бұрын
Great review. Some additional notes about the Rhino sets: "Dark Awakening" used the ending with the narrator previewing "The Return of Optimus Prime", which was added only to the rerun. It replaced Rominus' "Farewell,...Prime" line. (Shout's release uses the original ending.) Apparently, the closing credits were typed up from scratch and placed over the closing animation sequences. This results in some anachronisms that have no basis in history, such as Season 2's credits being listed in Season 1 episodes. Arlene Banas (Carly) joined the cast in Season 2, but, according to the DVD sets, she's credited in Season 1. Shout's sets actually duplicate the closing credits errors from the Rhino sets!
@ZakWolf
@ZakWolf 10 жыл бұрын
My main beef with those Rhino DVDs of Transformers and G.I. Joe were the "sweetened" sound effects for playing them on a 5.1 surround set and to make them sound more "modern."
@DennisTamayo
@DennisTamayo 2 жыл бұрын
The first 3 volumes of the original Animaniacs DVDs had the audio being remixed in 5.1, but fans wanted it in stereo so Warner Bros. Home Entertainment released the 4th & final volume in 2013.
@RodimusPrimal
@RodimusPrimal 8 жыл бұрын
I have the Rhino sets myself still and I paid $50 for each set when they were first released. So disappointed. The Rhino DVD release of the Movie was also terrible as the last half hour of it is poor quality. I also have the 20th Anniversary DVD release of the movie and the Matrix of Leadership box set. The main reason I have not sold off my Rhino sets is because of the ending in Dark Awakening in Season 3. I like the "So Long...Prime" better.
@RodimusPrimal
@RodimusPrimal 8 жыл бұрын
It would all the more give me reason to sell my Rhino Sets. Also Rhino put the episodes in more of continuity order over airing order that Shout Factory did.
@RodimusPrimal
@RodimusPrimal 8 жыл бұрын
Double check your box set. You'll notice that Dinobot Island is on the first disc of Season 2. If going by continuity order, this should be episode 31. Here's some info on the subject on the TF Wiki . tfwiki.net/wiki/Shout!_Factory
@RodimusPrimal
@RodimusPrimal 8 жыл бұрын
I wasn't trying to argue, just pointing out the differences between the two sets. Still its nice having both when you're as hardcore of a fan as we are. Sometimes no matter what we the fans say they don't hear us. I've been meaning to reread the Marvel Comics run although I'm more of a cartoon fan. Check out my "Who Became Cyclonus?" video on my channel when you get a chance. I'm making more discussions like that coming soon.
@Stco23
@Stco23 6 жыл бұрын
Keep your sets because you are getting the best versions possible with every single release you have. Rhino weren't perfect with it came to Transformers due to Marvel and Sunbow preserving the show poorly.
@vxrdrummer
@vxrdrummer 4 жыл бұрын
@@RodimusPrimal Someone famous commenting!!!
@ttttttttttttttt515
@ttttttttttttttt515 13 жыл бұрын
Wow Sean, you really put some research into the sets. Though I'm not entirely old enough to even have watched the series, I have watched a few from my dad's collection and it wasn't exactly Rhino. Can't remember at the moment, but didn't have this crap along with it. I mean really, what does it take to make a proper simple transfer. I know I'm a bit young for this, but I still understand the techniques and fan outrage that was bestowed upon them. Also, I'm inclined to think companies LOVE MONEY
@jamesc2138
@jamesc2138 9 жыл бұрын
I tell so many of my friends to watch this,they swear up and down all the added 5.1 new sounds was there in original broadcast...WTF?
@jamesc2138
@jamesc2138 9 жыл бұрын
Yes,same here..:)
@michaelcassy9592
@michaelcassy9592 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesc2138 why you reply to yourself
@TeamValyou
@TeamValyou 13 жыл бұрын
Gah how unfortunate! I got the season 1 Rhino boxset one random Christmas long ago with the only two Transformers toys I've ever had in my life. So going to take care of the Rhino set with whatever must be done and grab the Shout versions.
@snakes3425
@snakes3425 13 жыл бұрын
I consider the Shout verson the Definitve DVD verson of the orginal cartoon, I'd get the Rhino verson just for collectors sake and for the bonus features
@justinmiddleton8818
@justinmiddleton8818 6 жыл бұрын
There is no doubt in my mind at all that Shout! Factory definitely did right by the series, as they finally gave us an actual good release that cleaned up most if not all of Rhino's mistakes from using those incomplete 35mm prints. I have seen those many comparison videos between the versions as aired on television as well as released on VHS in the '80s/'90s and the Rhino DVD's, so it was pretty clear to me that those sets were badly botched in about every way imaginable in terms of not only the video but the audio as well with the horrible 5.1 surround mix and all of those added sfx that were not supposed to be there in the first place. I am really glad that i didn't waste my money on them to instead just wait a while for something so much better. And i say SMH to those who would say they prefer the presentation on the Rhino sets, because obviously they are not in the know and don't realize that what they see is not how it is really meant to be.
@gabbogabbo
@gabbogabbo 13 жыл бұрын
I can see how it is so frustrating when all you want is a good vhs or dvd set and its full of BS easily avoidable mistakes. But I look forward to the dvd reviews, for the love of god, I hope they have there shit together!
@sfighter991
@sfighter991 13 жыл бұрын
Wow, "Rhino" must've been the sadists of 80's cartoons. Can't wait to see you OPEN THE MATRIX OF LEADERSHIP!!!
@Chasing_Labels
@Chasing_Labels 13 жыл бұрын
Several years ago I wanted to watch the original Transformers animated tv show. This was slightly before Shout! Factory announced they were coming out with their set. I almost bought the Rhino sets or at least tried to, at the time they were out of print and expensive. But I heard about the problems and decided against it and the Shout Factory! announced their release and I have had that set since it came out. I also plan on getting Beast Wars and the Japanese set they recently released.
@BlaizeV
@BlaizeV 11 жыл бұрын
I love the sarcasm you use in this video. Its so funny. Former Rhino employess started up a company called S'more Ent and took my beloved Galaxy Express 999 Anime and released 38 episodes on 4 discs The Masters used?? Oh Craptastic Hard Subbed Streams available for free online ripped straight off the internet and slapped onto a discs lol No chapters, 10 Episodes a disc for bad bitrate and Hard coded Subs. Some guys never learn I loved alot of the videos you did when you lived at this place
@rafaelsot01
@rafaelsot01 7 жыл бұрын
nice well-documented video, good job! however it will be perfect if you put a video comparing the original sounds with the 5.1 sounds.
@DennisTamayo
@DennisTamayo 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the 2.0 sounds in the later sets.
@JordansCornerofNostalgia
@JordansCornerofNostalgia 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, Zaranyzerak. I’m about to give away my 2002 Complete Season One DVD Set of The Original Transformers by Kid Rhino Home Video soon, or maybe Now. And, I’m definitely getting the SHOUT! Factory version re-release of Season 1 of The Original G1 Series on DVD. I don’t mention about the other seasons (Seasons 2-4) that Rhino Home Entertainment originally released on Region 1 DVD. I mean, The Remastered Picture Quality and Video Presentation looks phenomenally good and it’s crisper and sharper. But, I Definitely, Extremely and Really Hate how Kid Rhino added new sound effects for the Remixed 5.1 Surround Soundtrack. In which, I definitely agree with you with the sizzles. It’s such a Travesty. It’s incredibly frustrating and annoying! I much rather prefer watching it in 2.0 Stereo and Original Broadcast Audio. Also, Nice Video and RANT! Thumbs up, Buddy! Keep up the Good Work.
@goldenheartOh
@goldenheartOh 7 жыл бұрын
I just checked. "Transformers: The Movie" 30th Anniv. Blu-ray is available now. Shout Factory version too! As far as sound goes, yeah, a lot of the effects are wrong, but mine has a thunderous BOOM added to the gun fire, not crackling. I guess I was so happy to be able to watch Transformers again that I was happy with what I got, even if it wasn't 100% right.
@TOYMASTERFUL
@TOYMASTERFUL 9 жыл бұрын
Good thing I watched this REview...I keep seeing these 'Rhino' dvd sets on ebay really 'CHEAP'...and wasnt' sure to buy them or not. I got the ones that were released later at Walmart stores that have actual cover casings and I guess I won't be buying the Rhino releases after hearing all this Crap that was done on those sets!
@ecoao80
@ecoao80 13 жыл бұрын
This is shaping up to be quite an epic journey. Probably worth a DVD release all on its own!
@katten838
@katten838 13 жыл бұрын
Speaking of unnecessary changes, whats your thoughts on George Lucas refusal to release the original theatrical releases of ep. 4-6?
@brentnrvll
@brentnrvll 13 жыл бұрын
I didn't know TRANSFORMERS had a 2nd release by Shout Factory until, I watch your video. I have the complete 2nd release of TRANSFORMERS they broke down Season 2 Vol. 1 then Season 2 Vol. 2 and Season 3&4 was together. I'm still planning on getting TRANSFORMERS Leadership Of The Matrix knowing that Shout Factory put them out. USA release of M.A.S.K. The Complete Series on DVD 8/9/11 and they are releasing the Vol. 1, I read 10 episodes. Shout Factory is releasing them out.
@rancidrabbit100
@rancidrabbit100 13 жыл бұрын
Boy am I glad I never bought the rhino season one set! I am glad I waited for the shout factory sets!
@dpImagine
@dpImagine 13 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a Great Transformers tv show Review. I am looking forward to your multiple releases of the 1986 Transformers Animated Movie review You have picked a unique time to do a review for the 1986 Transformers Animated Movie If you didn't already know there have so far been 8 of releases of the movie (continued in next comment)
@Kitsuneranger
@Kitsuneranger 13 жыл бұрын
Shout! Factory is releasing The Headmasters on DVD this year
@ednunpourtahmasbi605
@ednunpourtahmasbi605 2 жыл бұрын
Great discussion on these sets. I have a really weird perspective on the Rhino DVDs. You see I am totally blind and so for me, sound is really important. I'm also a huge Transformers G1 fan. When I was growing up I only heard a few episodes and when I was an adult in university, the Rhino sets came out. I knew straight away they'd added sounds, but I didn't care so much as sometimes those sounds told me a bit more about what was happening on screen than the 80s SFX where the design could be a little sparse. So I guess I learned to love the Rhino sound because, being a sound designer myself at the time, I realised what Magno had tried to do. I totally agree the original audio should have been there BTW. Also, animation mistakes, meh, meant nothing to me as I couldn't see them of course :) however what's interesting years later, is that I picked up the Shout Factory DVD sets and I now love the original audio. So I keep both copies around depending upon what I want to hear. What i'd love is the Shout video for both the movie an series, but Rhino audio and shout audio as options. Then I think that would be the difinitive set.
@FunAndObscureDVD
@FunAndObscureDVD 13 жыл бұрын
Holy crap you're churning these out quickly. I guess you've finally hit the limit from everyone bothering you about Transformers stuff.
@hudemx
@hudemx 13 жыл бұрын
@Zaranyzerak Looking forward to them, but take your Time ;) As we Austrian Peaople like to say: "It doesn't run away" (Es läuft dir schon nicht davon) Again thanks for the great videos ;)
@brentnrvll
@brentnrvll 13 жыл бұрын
M.A.S.K. was on air from "85-86", From what, I read. Also, I read there were 75 episodes. Shout Factory is putting 65 episodes out of the 75. JEM (cartoon in the 80's) is releasing in USA on Oct., I believe that is going to be the complete series from all I read. Shout Factory is releasing the series. I think Shout Factory did a awesome job. Just like, I remember them from the air time on WGN channel in the 80's. Which made me happy :) I'm like a held off on RHINO releases.
@Barbaryotaku
@Barbaryotaku 13 жыл бұрын
Sad how Rhino messed up, even if they meant well by using the prints. Cannot blame some people for not wanting to get the whole thing again, even if shout factory did a good job cos getting a series can be costly. Btw who is your favourite Transformer? I like Grimlock.
@TransKingFormers
@TransKingFormers 13 жыл бұрын
Great review but i have to disagree with you about rhinos dvd version of the movie. They forgot to remastered the scene where the autobots get attacked by the junkions all the way till they take off in 2 shuttles to fight unicron so even the movie wasnt completely remastered
@warnerbros.maniac8105
@warnerbros.maniac8105 2 жыл бұрын
Do Yourself A Favor: Don't Buy The RHINO Home Video Transformers G1 DVDs! They Are So Bad!
@johnnylymondthe2nd29
@johnnylymondthe2nd29 2 жыл бұрын
On The Bright Side The Sound Effects Do Fit Well With The Commercial Bumpers!
@zaranyzerak
@zaranyzerak 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn't planning to. Other than maybe if I find them cheap at some point, and then only for the extras and cool packaging.
@Venefica82
@Venefica82 13 жыл бұрын
@Zaranyzerak For the sound I have a hearing disability, like many with Aspergers syndrome my senses do work a bit differently at times so I am not good at separating sounds from one another, the sound of someone talking, the sounds of birds outside and the sound of the neighbors talking on the next door veranda is the same volume and intensity for me which can make things a bit of a blur which can be why I do not hear the sound mistakes. The animation and coloring mistakes I notice.
@tomtucker8735
@tomtucker8735 8 жыл бұрын
Great review. So I popped in disc 1 of season 1, 2.1, & 2.2 to check the 2.0 Audio. The audio sounds exactly like the broadcast audio on my rhino vhs and my personal broadcast vhs recordings. There were no added sounds and Victor Caroli's commercial break narration was there. Did Rhino correct the 2.0 Audio and reissue? All my sets were preordered, so I would think I received the initial prints.
@alexandertruong7839
@alexandertruong7839 2 жыл бұрын
All the rhino vhs are unchanged. The Dvd was only changed
@DennisTamayo
@DennisTamayo 2 жыл бұрын
The seasons 2 to 4 sets had added sound effects in the 2.0 audio!
@optimusuk
@optimusuk 5 ай бұрын
Does anyone haopen to know by any chance which version of G1 Hasbro have uploaded to their KZbin channel?
@zaranyzerak
@zaranyzerak 5 ай бұрын
It's an odd hybrid - It uses the Rhino video, but either the Shout Factory or original Mono audio depending on the episode.
@optimusuk
@optimusuk 5 ай бұрын
@@zaranyzerak ah weird thanks ,looks like I'll have to hunt down the shout factory releases still then 😐
@Venefica82
@Venefica82 13 жыл бұрын
I have the Metrodome sets, I have noticed that in some shots various Transformers are the wrong color, but other than that I have not really had allot of problems with the sets. I do not agree that one is not a proper fan if one do not upgrade, for some a few added sound effects is not enough to use quite allot of money on a new DVD set, I might to have everything in one box, but still, not everyone is as hung up on minute details as that, I honestly did not notice anything wrong with the sound.
@snakes3425
@snakes3425 13 жыл бұрын
Shout Factory has done a good job releasing the old 80s and 90s cartoons, one thing I wish they would've done with the Transformers Set is that it's suppose to be clebrating Transformers 25th Anniversary, you'd think they would put in more featurettes or a full length documentary about the history of the Transformers Franchise
@dvdmike007
@dvdmike007 13 жыл бұрын
I have a few random UK discs and the Season 3/4 set may have to dig them up and check what versions they are
@dvdmike007
@dvdmike007 13 жыл бұрын
I remember the Rino movie disc had the sound ruined also
@David315842
@David315842 13 жыл бұрын
@Zaranyzerak Don't worry I don't blame you. Because of that awfull English dub, the Japanese series didn't get too much respect outside of Japan, so some facts may be mixed up etc. Well I do have some news, the Sont Wonder/Maverick set does have the broadcast masters, but it features 5.1 surround sound, including the extra sound effects...yeah. However, the first 3 discs that were released seperatily, with the episodes being out or order, may have retained their pure VHS mono sound.....
@brentnrvll
@brentnrvll 13 жыл бұрын
JEM The Total Outrageous Complete Series Release Date: 10/11/2011 by Shout Factory.
@josedlaconsha1731
@josedlaconsha1731 6 жыл бұрын
That intro was pretty surreal. I like it.
@zaranyzerak
@zaranyzerak 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Optimegatrongodzilla
@Optimegatrongodzilla 13 жыл бұрын
@Zaranyzerak looking forward to your further tformers vids! good luck with them!
@tgif1345
@tgif1345 6 жыл бұрын
At least we got the Shout Factory releases for Transformers. I mean, not all of the cartoons from the '80s have gotten that royal treatment. The Adventures of Teddy Ruxpin is a great example. The broadcast masters were used on all home video releases from the 12 volume VHS release that Hi-Tops Video put out in the late '80s, right through to the complete series DVD release that Image Entertainment put out in 2012. And aside from the deluxe packaging for the 2012 series set, the show has never had any bonus features on it. That includes the 2008 Mill Creek DVD sets, and the original DVD releases put out by First National Pictures in 2006.
@hudemx
@hudemx 13 жыл бұрын
3 Questions: 1. Are you still planing to do a Video about the Episode Continuity of the Original TF Series, like you mentioned in part 1 of the VHS Years? 2. Have you already done a Video about the Shout Factory 25th Aniversary... Box Set? 3. Have you already done a Video about the various TF The Movie Releases like announced in this video? Seems I cannot find it on your youtube Channel ... Thanks for the great video - your awesome ;)
@David315842
@David315842 13 жыл бұрын
The Japanese series, a few years later after Rebirth? WOAH, Sean it started the same year in 1987. :D So does Shout Factory's sets light our darkest hour against the Rhino sets? I'll guess we'll find out soon. :) Well yeah I do have the Metrodome re-releases of the Rhino sets with UK extras, but I also have the Sony Wonder/Maverick set of Season 1, so I'm pretty much covered. :)
@darkdoctor1915
@darkdoctor1915 3 жыл бұрын
I plan on getting the rhino releases just for the special features, I have the shout factory version of the original just for watching since it looks good, maybe.
@snakes3425
@snakes3425 13 жыл бұрын
@Zaranyzerak I think with Reboot they were rushed to meet the release date
@vxrdrummer
@vxrdrummer 4 жыл бұрын
I live in the UK, so my Rhino versions are imports. They look amazing on my shelf, but I can't play them without ripping them on my PC, so I guess that I'll never know what they look and sound like! Actually, I'll rip them and then give them a look see...
@Summer21.
@Summer21. 4 жыл бұрын
I am from the UK too. England to be precise. 😃 If you can find a region free DVD player or even a region free Blu-ray player, you will be able to play them. 😃
@snakes3425
@snakes3425 13 жыл бұрын
@Zaranyzerak Shout Factory is the first company I believe to put Headmasters out in any format in North America, it's always bugged me that while Japan got 3 brand new Transformers TV Shows North America got repackaged versons of Generation 1 up until Beast Wars came out. So why Headmasters was never made into Season 4 and Masterforce and Victory were never made into a true Generation 2 show is beyond me, even though we got the toys and animation from the shows were used in the toy commercials
@nylesandrews
@nylesandrews 5 жыл бұрын
I Guess my one and Only Purchase was the Rhino ("The Transformers:The Movie") SPECIAL COLLECTORS EDITION Later I just went Directly to the Shout Version of at the Time ("25th" Guess now it be the "35th" Anniversary of the Series but 25 Transformers Complete Series Matrix of Leadership DVD Set").Optimus:Autobots"Transform and Roll Out"-"Till All Are One").
@EonievesTboneCovers
@EonievesTboneCovers Жыл бұрын
I don’t see what’s all the fuzz with the rhino set and hating on it. They worked with what they had at the time. It’s easy to bash others when your not involved. They were the only ones who decided to redo the Transformers G1 series and cared at the time. Many re-lived the experience with that version like me. I like them and it was great to watch it again in great quality at the time and in 5.1. Mono sucks. I also have the shout factory version and I wish they had provided the 5.1 as an option. Look great also. Not a big enough deal for hating on Rhinos product. I grew up watching Transformers from the start and The Movie was great. Just bought it in 4K. No need to get angry or aggressive over a rerun product. It’s not like you had anything to do with writing or creating the transformers. If you take personal and aggressive over stuff like that then you might need some serious therapy. My opinion.
@zaranyzerak
@zaranyzerak Жыл бұрын
Who's being "angry and aggressive and needing therapy?" This is a review of the quality of a product. The quality was vastly inferior to the Shout Factory set. Riddled with animation errors, and the 5.1 mix was awful. Not even remotely nostalgic as it shoehorned in countless sounds that weren't even in the original mix to begin with. I don't care if "mono sucks," that's how the show was produced and broadcast originally and to NOT include an unaltered mono track as an option was a slap in the face to fans who had been TRYING to tell Rhino what they, as fans, as the primary people buying those sets, wanted. Those fans were ignored. I call it like I see it. Am I supposed to just gloss over those glaring problems and shrug my shoulders? I wouldn't be doing my job as a reviewer if I was dishonest like that. And FYI, I actually DID contribute to the Shout Factory set. All of the toy commercials on the last disc of extras were provided by me, captured from my own original off air recordings. My name is in the booklet for the Matrix of Leadership set. I was in constant contact with Brian Ward, the producer of the set, providing information and advice for that and several other sets such as G.I. Joe and Jem because I'm considered an authoritative fan source for all of those shows. I'm not some random moron who doesn't know what he's talking about. Why is it, in your apparent opinion, BAD for fans to want the very best presentation for their favorite old shows? I'd say if a product is sub-standard, then it's absolutely the duty of fans to speak up about it.
@David315842
@David315842 13 жыл бұрын
@David315842 Oh a nother thing about the Sony Wonder/Maverick set is that some of the episode openings are a bit odd. For instance in More Then Meets The Eye: Part 1, it features the Season 2 opening, but to the Season 1 intro music.....yeah, it must have been on the master tapes they had with with when they produced the DVD's.
@DJ80s
@DJ80s 9 жыл бұрын
You have a voice for radio my friend. You could also be a news anchor. I would recommend searching "3 point lighting" though, to help with those shadows.
@snakes3425
@snakes3425 13 жыл бұрын
Season 4, 5 and 6 I think only came out in Japan as Headmasters, Masterforce and Victory
@starstudio8402
@starstudio8402 3 жыл бұрын
Season 4 is technically 3 episodes rebirth.Headmasters Masterforce and Victory were only released in Japan as it was made IN Japan.
@josedlaconsha1731
@josedlaconsha1731 6 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the shout factory box set release? Is the audio and everything else how it's supposed to be?
@zaranyzerak
@zaranyzerak 6 жыл бұрын
I did a 6 part review of it giving all my thoughts - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmi9oH2gp7yke8k
@justinmiddleton8818
@justinmiddleton8818 6 жыл бұрын
+Anti Holy It's a great release, so much better than the Rhino versions in every way.
@brentnrvll
@brentnrvll 13 жыл бұрын
Meant to put "Totally"
@teddyinjapan
@teddyinjapan 13 жыл бұрын
@Zaranyzerak No.... it was an homage to the crap release of Rhino, right? hahaha anyway, AWESOME job as always. This transformers series is great. But your all time best was the robotech series you did.
@David315842
@David315842 13 жыл бұрын
@David315842 Without the extra sound effects, I'll be sure to look into it as soon as possible. But yeah, I pretty much collected what became avaliable in the UK. Including the 'Takara Collection' sets which had the Japanese exclusive series on them. It's a pity Metrodome were naughty and only included the Zone OVA on the last disc of the Victory set, but only on the Takara Complete Collection set and not on the Victory set seperatily. Needless to say I was dis-pleased with Metrodome.
@Cage820
@Cage820 13 жыл бұрын
@TheKangLock I bet that made your day.
@TF80s
@TF80s 10 жыл бұрын
So is there any released version of G1 Transformers that are the proper original broadcast episodes? when they started releasing them on DVD I decided to wipe most, if not all of the episodes that I had on vhs before I realised what a mess they had made of the DVDs..I remember the series 1 & 2 episodes that were shown on Sky in the 80's didn't have any credits over the closing sequence which l loved..& most of the episodes also didn't have individual episode names until season 3..I wish I'd just kept all my old video recordings of the show now :(
@TF80s
@TF80s 10 жыл бұрын
You'd think by now that Hasbro/Marvel or whoever owns the rights to the original g1 series would have put their hands in their pockets & fixed the mistakes in all the episodes and released them again on dvd mistake free..with no added sound effects :)
@TF80s
@TF80s 10 жыл бұрын
I did watch ur videos and i wasn't impressed with some of what u said about the matrix set..so was there mistakes in the season 2,3 & 4 episodes in the rhino set too that weren't in the original broadcast episodes? I thought it was just the first season. In the Europe we got different episodes to what you got in the US so our original broadcast episodes were different to yours..our episodes for season 1 & for most of season 2 had no individual episode names or cast & crew names on the closing sequence..so to watch the episodes now with those things seems odd to me & just doesn't feel right...it's funny you say that it annoyed you that they fixed a spelling mistake on a particular episode because for us there was no name on that episode at all :)
@TF80s
@TF80s 10 жыл бұрын
P.S with the technology they have today there's no reason why they couldn't fix all the mistakes that made it on air, especially the mistake ridden 5 faces & some of the other season three episodes..I know most fans hate g2 but for some of those early g2 episodes they fixed a few of the animation mistakes, which was fine by me..i'd love a g1 boxset released with no animation errors or added sound affects and a choice to watch the g2 episode as an alternate..the thing I most hated about g2 was the opening & closing sequence & the fact that they did them so randomly..other than that I didn't have much of a problem with them..I actually wish that they'd made g2 versions of all the g1 eps..I know I'm probably alone with that idea.
@TF80s
@TF80s 10 жыл бұрын
I didn't mean I wasn't impressed with your review..I meant with the boxset.. ;) well personally I'd love all the animation mistakes in the g1 episodes to be fixed up..surely they could have the originally aired episodes as an alternate choice on the dvd too..
@TF80s
@TF80s 10 жыл бұрын
well to say on the one hand that you want them as they originally aired but then on the other hand to say that you want them in better quality is a bit of a contradiction..I think they ruined a couple of episodes by improving the picture quality..there is two episodes that had a certain charm to them & almost looked like comic book style animation that now look far too colourful & cartoony, which in my opinion ruins the whole feel of those particular episodes..also like l said, the episodes that aired in Europe were different to the ones that aired in the US which means that what you call original broadcast episodes are completely different to what people on this side of the world would have watched.
@MagicalWingLT
@MagicalWingLT 10 жыл бұрын
See I didn't know about all of these mistakes from Rhino. I was a baby when Transformers first aired so I didn't know how it was suppose to sound and such. So I bought all the Rhino Sets, the China Set, and the hubby had the Shout Factory set. So I got 3 sets for the series lol
@Optimegatrongodzilla
@Optimegatrongodzilla 13 жыл бұрын
@Zaranyzerak so, your the reason that shout factory got it right?! that's great!
@niconintend0
@niconintend0 13 жыл бұрын
here in italy we're finally getting season 3 and 4 of Transformers G1, it's been like 3 years of waiting. the only problem with this is that is being released by an anime and manga company, i really hope that they give us the american audio.
@Venefica82
@Venefica82 13 жыл бұрын
@Zaranyzerak I have also been a lifelong fan of Transformers since I first started watching when I was 10, and I watched taped and rewatched all the episodes I could get my hands on countless times. I do understand how such mistakes is annoying, I just do not see the Rhino versions as unwatchable, I have been enjoying them allot, and I do not think that makes me less of a fan. I might get the Shout Factory sets if it is better, but I am still a fan for enjoying what DVDs I have.
@JordansCornerofNostalgia
@JordansCornerofNostalgia 6 жыл бұрын
I have the Complete Season One 2002 DVD by Rhinomation. But, I know the Season One DVD contained Shitload of Animation Errors and mistakes that I was like, "What the Hell is this?!" I may keep the Rhinomation DVD release of the First Season of the Original Transformers. But, I'll be sure to avoid the Errors.
@justinmiddleton8818
@justinmiddleton8818 6 жыл бұрын
+JordanTheVHSDVD&NostalgiaTVGuy2002 I personally recommend the Shout! Factory sets, they are so much better than the Rhino DVDs and do not have all the work print errors and horrible added sound effects in them. They actually took the time to go in and insert the corrected scenes where needed to fix the most grevous errors that are unique to those film masters for the episodes, and in my opinion that is what the latter should have done rather than simply doing the bare minimum and letting most of those errors go uncorrected like they did. Unquestionably, Shout's release is the best and a clear improvement over the highly flawed Rhino releases.
@JordansCornerofNostalgia
@JordansCornerofNostalgia 6 жыл бұрын
I know. If Rhino want to Remaster the Original Transformers, then Use the Original 1" Broadcast Masters instead of the Original Incomplete 35mm Film Negatives!
@justinmiddleton8818
@justinmiddleton8818 6 жыл бұрын
+JordanTheVHSDVD&NostalgiaTVGuy2002 The thing is that there is no complete or correct set of all the episodes on 35mm as far as Season 1 goes, so Shout! had to take those and insert the corrected scenes from the broadcast masters in order to get as close to the episodes as they were originally aired as possible. They wanted to make use of the same set of film prints that Rhino had used previously as much as they could for maximum quality, but also go the extra mile to not just straight up copy and paste the transfers from the previous DVD releases as many other companies had done and fix most but not all of the pre broadcast animation mistakes which had plagued the Rhino sets especially with Season 1. Not to mention also getting rid of that horrible 5.1 audio remix with the added sound effects and sticking with a track that only contained the original elements from the proper mono audio source. Also, if i read correctly the broadcast tapes were not exactly in the most pristine condition after 25 years even as preserved as they were at the time that Shout! utilized them, so basically combining those with the film prints were the best way to get the most complete versions we have seen. You get for the most part the crisp quality of the former but without most of the glaring errors.
@UttRConcrete
@UttRConcrete 13 жыл бұрын
i have both the shout factory complete set and steel case from china one
@AtLauraSpeed
@AtLauraSpeed 10 жыл бұрын
You're my honey bunch, sugar plum, pumpyumpumpkin, you're my shweety pie😊
@snakes3425
@snakes3425 13 жыл бұрын
@optimegatrongodzilla That and I wish they were able to clean up the masters they used to fix Rhino's mistakes, not in terms of Audio but in terms of the color quality. As for Shout Factory's release of the Headmasters I wish they would've gotten the surviving cast of G1 and recorded an English Dubbed Track for it, finally giving us a complete G1 Season 4
@Mechaprimeable
@Mechaprimeable 13 жыл бұрын
@Zaranyzerak ummm......G2 has been released on dvd actually hehe. 12 episodes to be exact. I even have them in my possession and don't want them anymore (because i hate G2) but I do have them, and i even bought them in a store.
@slyther2
@slyther2 13 жыл бұрын
I have s1 and s1 part one in uk here so I am guessing they're the rhino releases? Yeah for hardcore fans that's a dissapointment beyond words but at least I am glad to have the series and be able to watch them
@David315842
@David315842 13 жыл бұрын
@Kitsuneranger Hi Jimmy andyes they are, Super-God Masterforce and Victory shouldn't be too far behind. :)
@EsquirePrime
@EsquirePrime 12 жыл бұрын
Gah! GOBOTS, KEEP EM AWAY!
@justinmiddleton8818
@justinmiddleton8818 6 жыл бұрын
Here's an aside about the digital editing that Rhino had used to attempt to fix some of the work print errors for their DVDs that you were talking about. One of these so called "fixes" that is particularly infamous is the scene in The Ultimate Doom: Part 3, in which Mirage appears via his invisibility power inside the Decepticons' spaceship. This is because it turned out that the animation of him actually re appearing was not in the 35mm footage they were using as the masters for said DVDs. They attempted to correct this little gaffe by taking a low resolution single frame of Mirage from another source and very badly copy pasting it into the scene. Check out this awfulness- tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Tud3_mirage_rhino_fix.jpg Needless to say, it looked like absolute sloppily done garbage in just about every way. Shout! Factory on the other hand just opted to insert the original broadcast version of the scene which was so much better on their part, and that is what Rhino seriously should have done in the first place instead of just letting all those work print errors and additional pre broadcast mistakes go out as is.
@zaranyzerak
@zaranyzerak 6 жыл бұрын
Good lord, I have no words for how horrible that looks...
@fatalwreck9254
@fatalwreck9254 11 жыл бұрын
I see those comments are from a year back, and am wondering if u still havent made videos of the shout factory release of the tf series and various tf the movie releases?
@BlaizeV
@BlaizeV 12 жыл бұрын
there wrong when presented as being Transformers on DVD. Since they arnt the show that people watched on TV. If they were released as Transformers the Workprint edition then they would be right. So yeah not wrong unless presented to be the orginal broadcast version which they arnt
@bknmcl
@bknmcl 13 жыл бұрын
Wait, you got them mixed up.
@brentnrvll
@brentnrvll 13 жыл бұрын
not "a" in one sentence on comment, Meant to put "I".
@97dukeboy
@97dukeboy 12 жыл бұрын
I have season one and season two volume one from shout factory and season two volume two and season three volume one and two season 4 from rhino
@gatekeeper999
@gatekeeper999 13 жыл бұрын
How ironic you talk about how the Rhino versions of the series is all messed up yet your video is has 3 glaring mistakes as well. coincidence? I THINK NOT!!! I 'll just wait for Shout factory to release this video in a correct format. J/K btw.
@HRE29
@HRE29 13 жыл бұрын
Why the choice to correct the "Heroes"/"Villains" mix-up in writing rather than over-dubbing yourself?
@starstudio8402
@starstudio8402 3 жыл бұрын
Have they fixed these problems?
@zaranyzerak
@zaranyzerak 3 жыл бұрын
The Shout Factory sets fixed most of the problems as much as they CAN be fixed with the available elements.
@starstudio8402
@starstudio8402 3 жыл бұрын
@@zaranyzerak ok, thank you very much
@jiidee
@jiidee 13 жыл бұрын
GO BOT GO BOTTY!
@jiidee
@jiidee 13 жыл бұрын
Nerd rage much? heh heh. I luvs the nerd ragey. Um...is it just me...or are your ending credit....shifted to the right? If they are then I suggest you make it a joke about the quality of the rhino dvds etc. lol rhino.
@ChimairaGod
@ChimairaGod 12 жыл бұрын
How are the 35mil wrong? There not Wrong if they exist...there just a ruff copy of the show. Its a cool alternative to the original airing.
@starstudio8402
@starstudio8402 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think he means wrong it’s just that the 35 mill are incomplete
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