ZEAL & ARDOR on Racist Commentary, Becoming a Buzz Band, The Haters and more | Metal Injection

[@Inadharion]

As a norwegian metalhead -- "appropriate" all you want. That's not a thing here, and should not be anywhere. I love the music, run with it!

[@KhayJayArt]

Appropriation just means taking from something, which everyone has done at some point, even Norwegians. There's only an issue if you take stuff from other cultures and either claim you made it or use it in a disrespectful way.

[@UsernameXOXO]

You're kidding yourself if you think there's no such thing as being the most trve grim black metal, it's a thing and it wil remain a thing

[@marissashantez6051]

Well it is a thing here. So, Im going to say fuck that. If we can't do it, then neither should anyone else. It the absolutely only way to make anything sensible happen. If people are going to be treated unfairly, at least it should be consistent.

[@MatheusSantos-ot9hq]

Cry more, I can't hear it from here.

[@zztapa]

People always complain that everything is the same or has been done , then something like this comes along and they shit on it

[@raincastellanos3722]

Babymetal! They should tour with zeal just to stick it to the haters..lol

[@the_furry_inside_your_walls639]

@@raincastellanos3722 Don't forget about Crossfaith, Crystal Lake, and literally any band Christian Älvestam has been in.

[@patrickbertlein4626]

That's because the metal parts are boring and unoriginal. If he did a straight metal album, it would flop. Everything else is cool, but he, just like Deafheaven and Myrkur, are much better just doing what they do best, which isn't metal.

[@samuellist1844]

Black metal purists are a bunch of jackasses. They don’t own the genre, and besides black metal has been fused with so many other genres and zeal and ardor is a welcome addition to the black metal fusion scene. Keep up the amazing work!

[@deggial2005]

Like...how the hell can anyone be a hater just because that particular band sing something different than their liking? Sounds retarded to say at least :)

[@apothecurio]

And honestly. Black metal and Slave chants are both incredibly raw and cathartic. It really just makes the scariest blues I've ever heard.

[@ReginaldAnteel]

I’m sort of new to listening to Zeal and Ardor, as someone who loves black metal I don’t really hear black metal in there. I always think they remind me of Gojira in a lot of ways. Does their older stuff have more of a black metal feel?

[@lucifermorningstar6169]

I hate any person who has never written or produced music and thinks their opinion is worthwhile. Your one of 7billion useless mouths, unless its your craft then your a hypocrite.

[@the_furry_inside_your_walls639]

@@lucifermorningstar6169 Don't cut yourself on that edge. You might bleed out.

[@gearzdesign]

I just discovered Zeal and Ardor and instantly fell in love with the group. The blend they have is unique and raw, something that's hard to find in todays music.

[@AlextheBant]

The moment you become a purist, is the moment you forget music is art and not just your little social acceptance club. Its awesome that new things are tried out and that styles that could be considered opposites can join together in a surprising blend. I'm all for it.

[@connorwoods3758]

Couldn't have put it better friend

[@ziomaradelacruz2913]

Tell that to pop punk

[@marissashantez6051]

Its not about purism. Its about consistency. If white people are constantly berated because they did something that someone not white might have thought about doing in the last century, then we should all stay in out niche. If people are going to be treated unfairly, then the at least it can be even handed. Its worse if only one group of people is treated unfairly, and the rest are treated well.

[@IlVanguardlI]

Four years later and they drop an absolute bombshell of an album, along with colab tracks from some of my favorite musicians. Really happy to see them succeed like this.

[@kkmadmanmines]

0:29 Binging with Babish just walks through the background

[@user-O_06660_O]

We should also remember that rock and metal music heavily derive from blues and black music, so it makes perfectly sense to reintroduce these influences in modern metal.

[@mammon_is_god]

Took the hatred from bigots and made breathtaking art.

[@traveandre8877]

Not the first time an afro american does this

[@Kiwistale]

Truly breathtaking. I was in tears when I heard Vigil.

[@UNMERILLY]

Fuck yeah, so happy for him, he truly deserve to be famous worldwide with his music

[@grantw499]

It truly is an amazing album

[@captaincatbeard9565]

I've been a metal head for nearly 35 years and this utterly blew me away.

[@space.kitteh]

This is some of the most powerful intense music I've ever heard. Blood in the River .........it's like the alien bursting from your chest

[@varechianhordes8961]

afro americans created blues and rock? so why not a crossover of black metal and gospel ?

[@22ChampagneSupernova]

Because that would hurt the already fragile feelings of sheltered internet conservatives. :(

[@romankrebs7696]

Freewheelin' Franklin Freek yeah, This "nigga music" is truly called gospel.

[@inspectorbudget]

I'm working on it.

[@KhayJayArt]

White boys think whites created rock and they get triggered when you hit them with the historical fact that black people created the music they like so much.

[@rebelpanther1784]

@@KhayJayArt It's kinda funny how many white guys don't even know the history of the music they like so much... Uh...

[@matthewengland6428]

I'm seeing these guys with opeth and mastodon in a few weeks and I think I am the most excited to see them. I have been obsessed with their stuff for about 3 years now. I can't wait

[@DiagnaFronza]

not only is manuel gagneux a fucking musical genius, he's also a gigantic cutie

[@marshallleevalentine]

I love that history, just a flying middle finger at racism.

[@benporter9770]

You r Stupid

[@thelastdaybreathinginetern1385]

@@benporter9770 🐷

[@KiLLM4CE]

@@benporter9770 ratio

[@ickoriss]

I love black metal, but I love it even more when it's fused with other things. We should never stifle experimentation, because it gives us amazing projects like this one.

[@85Zeroangel]

Myrkur, might be a good option for you.

[@ickoriss]

@@85Zeroangel Already a huge fan lol.

[@maxmordon7295]

If Zeal And Ardor is Black Metal, then Ghostemane or anyone else being inspired/influenced by it is also, I guess 🤔. I hope there won't come some fυςκing mσrση accusing me of being a "purist"; Deafheaven, on the other hand, has included blast beats, tremolo picking and shrieks in much of what they've done (that's why they're called 'Blackgaze': recognizable Black Metal elements + recognizable Shoegaze elements), so...

[@plantifulalexandra]

Agree.

[@JV-jl1sq]

I'm so glad these guys are finally getting the attention they deserve! Such powerful music

[@ctilson176]

Their music is absolutely amazing live. Saw them with Opeth and Mastodon.

[@Nick_J_]

That show musta ruled, wow

[@ctilson176]

It was absolutely amazing! All three bands were clear, played fantastic, had great interaction with the crowd, and the lights were insane.

[@ctilson176]

It was absolutely amazing! All three bands were clear, played fantastic, had great interaction with the crowd, and the lights were insane.

[@ctilson176]

It was absolutely amazing! All three bands were clear, played fantastic, had great interaction with the crowd, and the lights were insane.

[@ctilson176]

It was absolutely amazing! All three bands were clear, played fantastic, had great interaction with the crowd, and the lights were insane.

[@Lijoje]

Love what you do, man. Please keep on making more amazing music!

[@panicreckless1003]

ROCK, BLUES, JAZZ, RAP ETC... (BASICALLY ALL GENRES OF MUSIC) COMES FROM BLACK PEOPLE SO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE DISCRIMINATE BLACK ROCK ARTISTS. THEY OWN IT.

[@Lymmar]

Just wanted to remind you that one year ago, what you wrote was the fucking truth. This guy took it back, and did something amazing with it.

[@cradleofmoogle]

I love this so much. I absolutely love the amazing music you're making. Hits so hard.

[@laram2743]

I heard from this projekt the first time in an German public cultur radio station (a pretty large one). That interested me very much and I'm so happy to have found this music through that.

[@HellzJezebelle]

Omigawd I discovered these guys last night and I am here for it!

[@sonicwingnut]

Always gonna get some edgelords out there who hate anything that's not pure black metal or whatever, but in truth on the UK scene at least a lot of the artists and people making the music love this band because they're doing something interesting. I only heard them when they randomly came on my Spotify in the car and was like.. well that's different! Going to go see 'em play in an old church later this year!

[@Venefica_me]

I love the subgenre, the emotion, the themes, the experimental touch and well, can't really describe how addicted I've become.

[@oskarvavtar4990]

Such a great band

[@yherok]

When I met them, I told myself "I had never thought about it, what more ritualistic than black chant?"

[@Zachhwithanhnotak]

Zeal and Ardor is one of the best things to ever happen to music. Plus Emanuel is fucking adorable and down to earth, which makes me love the band even more. He can sing, scream, AND shred that guitar. He genuinely understands metal, something very sacred to me, and how to manipulate it and morph it with other genres into something twisted and dark and beautiful. I think I'm in love. THE RIVERBED WILL RUN RED WITH THE BLOOD OF THE SAINTS AND THE BLOOD OF THE HOLY

[@Concatenate]

Just now hearing about these guys. Manuel seems like such a genuine and good dude. Interesting stuff.

[@Chuloloc]

Interesting. Need to go check it out.

[@eurosnuke1678]

seems like really cool dude as well! would love to grab a beer with him lol much respect from finland!

[@josephweber2502]

Nice gojira pic. Zeal and ardor is a close second favorite of mine behind them.

[@keaters123]

There's always going to be haters, trolls. Fuck the haters , I like there style and sound.

[@sen-te8oq]

people say you cant listen to black metal because its satanic. i say i listen to zeal & ardor because it SOUNDS GOOD. same with ghost, just because i like it DOES NOT MEAN IM A SATANIST. CALM DOWN

[@themoniathansnest5404]

sen you right you right, I dont listen to old black metal because it just kinda sucks for me and its hard to listen to, I respect it and love it as I do all metal however, newer black metal and fusions like this band are awesome

[@F4R207]

Uh, the abrahamic deity is the demiurge and "satan" is just a collective label of everything the obsessive hierarchy wanted to demonize (including knowledge). Eh.

[@cwdeans7192]

Okay well Zeal & Ardor make this type of music BECAUSE of the juxtaposition and Ghost makes their style of music in a blatantly theatrical tongue in cheek way so you’re getting awful defensive about nothing. You calm down, my guy 😂😂

[@Musicmanohio247]

I enjoy your music and I enjoy that you put your soul into what you do.

[@adamwrong7791]

Just found these guys thanks Spotify im loving these guys!!!

[@Joybuzzard]

This man could be the John Lennon of his generation, except Z&A does better music.

[@t-boneparker9686]

Uh sassy

[@KhayJayArt]

Damn, why you do Lennon like that?

[@zailaurence2385]

Plus Z&A don't beat women.

[@Bogeyman19DidNotScareMyAss]

All Seeing Eye I’m sure your entire life has been impeccable. Easy to pick on some 60 year old shit.

[@robertkiss2737]

Lennon 🤮

[@horizonblack]

Prophets of Rage and Zeal and Ardor... holy shit. I wish I had been at that concert

[@welltrev]

This band is awesome!

[@SICRoosterKido]

Like he said; something fresh and epic in 2018? ..I'm in

[@sinnertrain7405]

I have Zeal & Ardor's debut album and think it's really inventive by throwing new elements (field hollers and early delta blues into modern metal (there's some industrial stuff in there too). I didn't know he was American, not that it matters. Looking forward to what "they" do next.

[@BruceWayne-zj1kw]

Sinner Train He’s not American, he’s Swiss.

[@sinnertrain7405]

Thanks for the correction on where he's from.

[@BluuurghAg9]

I thought he's half american half swiss, so I guess you both are right?

[@holyhellfml]

accidentally heard ship on fire 4 ish years ago..... been turning people onto them almost weekly. they got groove man

[@danielgiles9105]

Racism is mostly past down by the parents.. it's sad

[@testnoise8632]

what is the name of the band on Manuel's t-shirt please ?

[@Mu3mm3lm4nn]

'Kora Winter' kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHuse5h4obJ-bKM

[@Plagueghoul]

Remember that extreme/black metal was born in latin america. Parabellum influenced Mayhem.

[@millenniumfantasy6503]

So what Bathory was before that.

[@Dexusaz]

Lol, that's not true. I mean, there were some good and influential extreme Metal bands from Latin America, such as Vulcano or Sarcofago. But Extreme/Black Metal was definitely not ''born'' in Latin America.

[@Brother2Saintz]

Perhaps a full discussion would clarify this, but I might agree with that. Check out the late 80's Colombian film: Rodrigo D which includes bands with an early bm sound. I also remember interviews about Mayhem trading tapes with South American metal bands for influences. Also, Varg was wearing a Von t-shirt at his hearings.

[@BigGayIncorporated]

Don't anyone forget Venom.

[@spagetti001]

who gives a fuck? what matters is that it exists, and we metalheads love it. I couldn't care less about "who did it first"

[@abraxaslucifer181]

Definitely on repeat one of the better bands I've heard recently in the past several years

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

Awesome new sound. Would be perfect if it was a little less repetitive.

[@hankj.wimbleton8618]

imagine trying to be racist to a guy on the internet, and the guy makes one of the fastest growing black metal bands

[@JohnSmith-lk8cy]

it sounds amazing and that is all that matters.

[@therealclp]

Who else heard of Zeal & Ardor before Prophets of Rage?

[@markpitt2474]

So wzup with white supremacists hip hop in Germany and northern Europe? No one has exclusivety over music!

[@k1ll8oi62]

Thank you ME AND THAT MAN radio on Spotify for introducing me to Zeal And Ardor, I cannot stop listening. Fuck the racists, fuck the people with closed minds. This band is fucking HAWT.

[@geometricalshapes4464]

4chan is not a very good place to get some serious suggestions so there's really no point in trying to milk it to get an SJW message out of it however, I am glad to see something new and fucking cool being done in music today.

[@orangemonkey500P2]

nothing to do with SJW's its just him having fun.

[@themoniathansnest5404]

GEOMETRICAL SHAPES yeah, I dont think this man is a crazy antifa fuck, he just wanted to make some good ass songs

[@KhayJayArt]

@@themoniathansnest5404 anifa is awesome, though :)

[@coisasaqui]

hes so pretty

[@djurraca927]

This dude rocks on

[@stevecampkin8613]

I love that "Social Justice Warrior" has become an insult!

[@themoniathansnest5404]

Steve Campkin its not an insult if you are proud of it XD but alot of the people with that there tag are what I consider “douchebags”

[@RanchoBurger]

Right?!

[@ardillarojo]

I love that people who use "SJW" as an insult are pathetic incels who will never get laid.

[@lucaiovis]

I think there's a difference between being a bonafide activist and a hypocritical asshole with a superiority complex, imo. I don't think 'SJW' is *necessarily* an insult, but it's definitely used as one (and most people who are called "sjws" usually fit the stereotype).

[@hrasmussen88]

When I first listened Zeal and Ardor I thought that it is bizarre and shocking and also good. Because irrelevant type of music genres were mixed together but the result was really good. I always loved avantgarde metal with bizarre attitude so Zeal And Ardor got my attention and admiration. Haters are just ignorants, I listen to black metal for 19 years and I never thought something like "black metal has to be pure" I love pure black metal so much but we need fusion bands like zeal and ardor. We need to broaden up our perspectives about metal and music.

[@MasterTwig1]

Go Manu! Geile Siech!!!!!

[@konoha1993]

Let's not focus too much on the "white and black" of music and just fucking enjoy it, shall we?

[@Gia_mes]

What I love most about zeal and ardor is that they use the most racist music (black metal is racist, just admit it) , mix it with spirituals and express all their anger about racism and the reasons why an afro person would turn to the devil. Cause god is made up from the white to the white, and not all white...

[@TobyLegion]

Black metal isn't racist in and off itself - it is just music. But the scene with its 'i'm so evil' attitude certainly attracts a lot of assholes. And racist are basically peak assholes.

[@robertkiss2737]

Some BM bands are racist but the vast majority are NOT. Same with the fans. I love BM in all forms from the purest to Zeal & Ardor.

[@terria8825]

Oh jeez, what did the trump supporters do now?

[@KhayJayArt]

Be themselves. As usual.

[@Trolloxfayce]

Under rated comment.

A mixed dude

[@themoniathansnest5404]

Michele Cobré mixing genres baby

[@BlackPhillip666]

Next time someone tells you racism is bad, remind others of the good racism brings.

[@KhayJayArt]

Wtf

[@eliasn0671]

I can’t tell if this is a joke?

[@jeremymayes4551]

Find whats trending and ride that wave...

[@massivcack]

I'm a fan, such a new and interesting creation