before enlightenment chop wood, fetch water. after enlightenment, chop wood, fetch water. outstanding Zen proverb
@krumplethemal8831 Жыл бұрын
Do you chop wood and fetch water or do you chop wood and fetch water?
@ryanfisher14405 ай бұрын
Haha I love this
@frankchilds98482 жыл бұрын
I've practiced zazen many years, I don't take it as a whim or toy. This is a rare gem amongst most of the zazen videos around the web. Thanks for the respect and care you show Dogen Zenji!
@frankchilds98482 жыл бұрын
I live in Honolulu in a Soto temple and follow Dogen Zenji in a modern way. I think your approach is very pragmatic in introducing him to the world of now! Gasho and many thanks 😊🙏☺
@Asangoham2 жыл бұрын
Our scriptwriter was patient with this script. He immersed himself into the teachings of Dogen, and this was the final product. We're so glad you approve of it!
@ozgursenturk11-11 Жыл бұрын
"You" don't practice zazen! I meant you can not practice it! If you think "you" are practicing then you will have to practice it many many lifetimes🙏
@TheEternalClown Жыл бұрын
@@ozgursenturk11-11 Who is practicing it over many lifetimes? And if there is no continuation over lifetimes, as reincarnation is a far more drastic change than that of existence from moment to moment, what is the use? There is no memory, no personal immortality. I will neither become enlightened nor suffer karma in a future life because it will be a different person inheriting karma. The worse I could expect is suffering in some hell. Do not dip into denying this existence wholesale, especially due to two truths doctrine; after all, then I could simply rebut Buddhism by saying that there is no sufferer, therefore existence is not suffering; nor is there any way to realize that there is no sufferer, because there is no realizer or aspirant. So it is all just giving up and achieving nothing
@Erebus.666.6 ай бұрын
@@TheEternalClown Buddhism already rebutted itself. It already accepts there is no sufferer, it's all about abiding in sunyata, or emptiness. Go give the Prajna paramita sutra, everything is already rebutted for you. Great stuff.
@jeffxanders39902 жыл бұрын
About a year ago, I discovered a simple exercise to still the mind by focusing on nothing while allowing thoughts and emotions to come and go as they will for five minutes once or twice a day. After a few weeks (depending on your baggage) I was able to sit with nothing going through my mind at all. It's very liberating.
@Asangoham2 жыл бұрын
That method is also called “Sahaj Sadhana”, effortless meditation. It's very powerful :)
@thekindmystic11 ай бұрын
@@Asangoham Isn't it Sahaj Samadhi?
@112deeps2 жыл бұрын
True. The Eyes of thousands of eyes is nothing other than the Consciousness. Sat-Chit-Ananda Existence - Consciousness - Bliss
@theostapel4 ай бұрын
Finally - the Absolute or Real Being. A quote from India - 'I would advise that instead of pondering over how the universe came into existence, we should admire the Being that brought it into existence'. (Ram Chandra) It is quite simply - an eternal statement - for reference - for meself. Fare thee well - on life's journey.
@kyotosal Жыл бұрын
I have visited Eiheiji in Japan about 5 or 6 years ago. At that time there were 200 monks there. I also bought the movie "Zen" which is all about Dogen's life when he went to China to get the true Buddhism in 1223 and his return to Japan in 1227. "Zen" is a wonderful movie and you will definitely love it!. Oh, I forgot. The complete movie is on KZbin. It is nearly the same as the movie I bought, only a few words have been changed and the conversations are not perfectly synced with the Japanese.......Sal : )
@insider_english15942 жыл бұрын
I am truly grateful for the algorithms and timing of my mind to cross this vid.
@juliesheard2122 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing this video. Zazen is the jewel.❤
@GS-gq5is Жыл бұрын
So well done and such an informative and interesting perspective on Dogen.
@stefanschleps8758 Жыл бұрын
What do we do after enlightenment? We keep on keeping on. We continue. Or as has been so succinctly stated so many times before. "Before enlightenment we chop wood and carry water. After enlightenment we chop wood and we carry water." Afterwards we are more careful what we do, what we say, and what we think. We continue prayer and meditation. We embrace all we can with compassion and benevolence. Good luck.
@trylambdaentries80712 жыл бұрын
Master Dogen nailed it... with the idea that we are all here to compliment each other...
@PeaceChanel Жыл бұрын
Thank You Everybody for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.. Peace Shalom Salam Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ ☮ ❤ 🕊
@serijas7372 жыл бұрын
Don't fail to learn from the ever shifting forms of clouds appearing and fading in their greatness.
@hammersaw31356 ай бұрын
Master Dōgen was genius in this simplicity. He is absolutely right, I see people arguing about who is more/actually enlightened, all of this is nonsense. It is about the journey not the destination. One of the wisest men of history.
@ivoryquays66612 жыл бұрын
I practise Zazen as I prepare my breakfast And as I eat my breakfast And as I wash my bowl.
@krumplethemal88312 жыл бұрын
You do? Do you always steal breakfast from your bowl?
@ozgursenturk11-11 Жыл бұрын
"You" don't practice zazen! I meant you can not practice it! If you think "you" are practicing then you will have to practice it many many lifetimes🙏
@nigelbrown3658 Жыл бұрын
@@ozgursenturk11-11 the conventional I
@Ikaros23 Жыл бұрын
Excellent comment 👌
@theostapel4 ай бұрын
Kwatz ! or Shhhhh ! Fare thee well - on life's journey
@MrMikkyn Жыл бұрын
Just finished Introduction to Tibetan Buddhism by John Powell; Shugden Controversy, and The Sound of Two Hands Clapping by Dreyfus. I was not enlightened from hundreds of pages of reading, but I experienced enlightenment from one chapter of Dogen’s Shobogenzo. Feeling frustrated, learning the difference with Geluk Shugden and Dalai Lama’s Geluk. Analysing the difference ls and similarities between Sakya, Nyingma, Kagyu, Rimé, Gelug. Evaluating the value of debate and scholasticism in Gelug monasteries, evaluating the the value of sectarianism in Shugden and in Gelug. Admiring Rime, being shocked by the starvation, violence and rigidity of certain abbots and monks in the Gelug Monastery. Feeling more baffled, and bewildered, and even less knowledgeable than before, then experiencing enlightenment from Dogen. What a great man.
@theostapel4 ай бұрын
Felt for four decades plus - that Master Dogen - has grasped the vision - and realised it fully. Finding the right words - out of the silence - and with grace and crackle - putting these - into our bowl. Walking on - and coming back - in one's life - if needed - and then walking though the mist - up that mountain and at the top - just stepping off. Or just sitting there - inwardly opening the inner being - to those restless and desperate - to merge into - this Being. Just sitting - light as a feather of enlightened isness and also a granite rock of intent - and beyond these too - as he is the tested Master - of the Zen canon and the Zen experience - and has really realised the phenomenon - of all this. After studying him - for decades Master Dogen - is the revelation of himself and a light for all - in this worthy field. Fare thee well - in life's journey.
@heronemosheppard887711 ай бұрын
This educational video is very uplifting and a treasure to find. I saught to learn who Master Eihei Dōgen was from a quote of his used in the forward of Brian Doyle's book One Long River of Song. The quote was about ..."awakening into the ten thousand things." It spoke to me calling me to discover more about its origin & meaning. I loved this video. Thank you.
@regulusmine2336 Жыл бұрын
Sitting didn't keep me from getting tangled up, but it helped me untangle.
@fraidoonw5 ай бұрын
Wonderful! Thanks! Dogen's book Shobogenzo is a pearl in the realm of Zen.
@satyenraja92842 жыл бұрын
Such a wonderful succinct and sweet sharing of the essence of Dogen 🙏🏽🌸so beautiful and rich
@KaranRajmane2 жыл бұрын
Protect this channel creator at all cost....
@BrilliantLightGlowing11112 жыл бұрын
This is a really well-made video and I can imagine the massive amount of effort needed for this. I would love to see more in the future. Thank you!
@Kyguy33332 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for the great wisdom.
@StevinErmel11 ай бұрын
We are a part of everything and at the same time apart from everything there is no separation from everything and also no union with everything. It may sound insane but it's my realization.
@jonathanrascol Жыл бұрын
Bravo! Beautiful! Homages! ⚡️⚡️⚡️ JAR 座禅 zazen’s gradual teachings ⚡️ from sitting well to seeing wells ⚡️ ascetic pursuits: zen[shin 禅神] ⚡️⚡️⚡️ JAR[RA] [壺 tsubo]
@ASmith-bp8tm Жыл бұрын
Excellent lecture
@robertberry1418 Жыл бұрын
this is Worthy and Important - uncluttered and direct
@janetthoke8027 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. 🙏
@GeneralFukzamatayuКүн бұрын
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@ashtongmusic2 жыл бұрын
Incredible. Thank you!
@guyolive10712 жыл бұрын
Don't assume life is more complicated today, fuedal Japan was a rough place to live.
@THinleyDhendupTopper2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the knowledge passed here, found the last bit funny. It was all a content in the end.
@TerrilltfАй бұрын
Watching this video is time being.
@oO-_-_-_-Oo Жыл бұрын
before enlightenment, chop wood, fetch water.. after enlightenment, chop wood, fetch water.. -zen saying
@Can-rd4yh2 жыл бұрын
I would love a Video about Ryōkan
@blackbird56342 ай бұрын
Ever watch the Dogen biography? They structured it like an American Rocky type, underdog, winner take all, training film. Dogen is just another monk until one day he sits for about 3 full days. The other monks come and go, the head-Zen-dudes notice him just sitting there doing nothing for days on end. After that, they tell him they no longer have anything to teach him. That's it. Pretty much he spouts the same solipsistic egotism that a self employed hedge fund manager might say. He's his own person, he has no earthly attachments, people are their own source of happiness or failure.
@Mynameisvedansh2 жыл бұрын
once when I was a child, I use to chant a mantra all day and night, one day everything seems clear and sudden blissfulness surrounds me, after that my life takes a padigm shift, from then on whatever I thinks become a reality in my life, and I think that I Ttained samadhi that night, I think I am awakend at that moment, I am enlightened
@Mynameisvedansh2 жыл бұрын
At present I am doing trading in share market and earning around other people's yearly CTC IN A MONTH, WHATEVER I THINK MATERIALIZE
@EffectiveINenglish Жыл бұрын
Great presentation! 🙏
@austinnieli2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful
@bobmn5702 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful video, truly a work of art. One thing I would add is that a more correct partial perspective would be that buddha-nature is not substance according to Dogen. He writes it is not a "something" at all. Furthermore, he writes "it has nothing to do with stuff like consciousness and object, substance and form." All of those terms are conceptual, partial perspectives on reality which create dualities.These might bring one aspect of reality to light, but at the same time they hide another. He writes "when one side is illuminated, the other remains in darkness." Consequently, Dogen tries very hard to avoid any dualistic interpretation of the buddha-nature. Like, for example, the duality of monism vs pluralism. He writes: "It (the buddha-nature) is neither a collection of seperate parts, nor a single uniform unity." It is rather like "the balling of a fist." In other words, the buddha-nature is rather like an action, or dynamism. We might say it is a universal flux of thing events. However, we must not confuse this conceptual, partial explanation of reality with the buddha-nature as such. Or as Dogen puts it: "Do not waste your time with the admiration of a painted rice cake!" Because when we cling to conceptual constructs about reality it seems like seperate independent essences actually exist, which hinders a direct experience of buddha-nature. The point is to actualize and actually experience the buddha-nature, for example during zazen practise.
@PiyushLaad1987 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you.
@seddik6522 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video !! quality information always! I have a question, how does one arrive at a state of No Mind (stop thoughts), what exactly should be done to stop anxiety? Thank you 🙏🙏
@juliesheard2122 Жыл бұрын
In Zazen, thoughts are not stopped. It is the practice of "neither trying to think, nor trying not to think; just sitting with no deliberate thought" Dogen Zengi Rules for Meditation. Anxiety, just like thoughts, will rise and fall. Just be there. Sit still and accept all that comes and goes but do not get involved. Just sit, for this is true enlightenment. Do not expect anything, all is already present. Offered in compassion, for the good of all Being. ❤🙏
@ArunodayTimes2 жыл бұрын
VERY NICE AND EDUCATING. Thanks for this..
@riddleofthesages2 жыл бұрын
Rather than saying the Buddha nature, we can also be say the nature of consciousness, as this would eliminate the necessity for a master, as their is no virtuous being that would want this title. PD Riddle Of The Sages The Book Of Answers - kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYXZmGuonthgo7s
@112deeps2 жыл бұрын
True. The Eyes of thousands of eyes is nothing other than the Consciousness
@RhythmJunkie2 жыл бұрын
… or God, as God is the Source Consciousness that causes all to Become, and ultimately that’s all there is 🕉
@riddleofthesages2 жыл бұрын
@@RhythmJunkie The word God derived from the word 'Gud' meaning good, in ancient texts. Let us agree that 'GOoD' is the source, and that is all there is 😇
@joshy03692 жыл бұрын
Good stuff 👏 👍
@citizenenak Жыл бұрын
Wow, i haven't really contemplated traceless enlightenment that way. I figured enlightenment was inherently free of ego and attaining that state by definition would not take on another identity rooted in mind. The idea of enlightenment is in a real sense as far away from actual enlightenment as any old idea or thought, after all there is a clear lucid understanding where awareness is residing. Its in thought and is the thought accompanied by a present being or are they lost in memory/time?
@user-kl1on3nw7y2 жыл бұрын
Great videos
@justinmus28962 жыл бұрын
World Peace. One Piece at a time.
@Jamespetersenwa Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@freespirit4892 жыл бұрын
Awesome 🙏
@farrider33392 жыл бұрын
Who is it talking about Buddha-nature ? 🤔 Why talk of Buddha-nature? 🤔 It's all there and working beautifully already °
@zenmasterjay12 жыл бұрын
Nirvana and samsara are not two and not one...thus is called dogen...the source of the tao!
@zenmasterjay12 жыл бұрын
Your content and delivery is quite enjoyable. Thanks.🙂
@grafinvonhohenembs Жыл бұрын
Advaita Vedanta... Master Dogen style. 🙏
@honeybadger28012 жыл бұрын
🔥
@krumplethemal8831 Жыл бұрын
1. Express the method verbally so that if there are any beings whom might reside in samsara can take the opportunity to enlighten themselves and repeat this answer. Would a bird chirp all alone? Might as well since it is worth chirping about..
@gra664911 ай бұрын
Someone said, “If you hadn’t already found God you wouldn’t be looking for him/her”.
@beyondthepinesproductions4 ай бұрын
Looking for God is still finding God.
@trapper15112 ай бұрын
You don't need zazen to live. But you need to eat to live
@bokken28 Жыл бұрын
Gassho 🙏
@olly25153 ай бұрын
my main takeaway from this video is that sex is more important than sleeping and showering
@susyk_susyk Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@siyaram28552 жыл бұрын
Please disable ads
@ZenMasterNahc Жыл бұрын
I am just a horse yet to be broken in. If I'm enlightened, I don't anything about it.
@HaharuRecords Жыл бұрын
Why No master as we know has ever tried to understand about Mahavira (Jainism) as Buddha and Mahavira came almost same time and share a lot in common yet they differ in many ways.. Has anybody ever wondered who ever saw truth!!
@magnusnilsson6217 Жыл бұрын
There where probably people with the same expriences and insights before it was given a name.
@freespirit4892 жыл бұрын
Connects to all pristine wisdom across Hinduism and it's spiritual texts like Vedas, Bhagwat Geeta
@hermezztriplecool91312 жыл бұрын
👁
@lp5913 Жыл бұрын
Dogen didn't found the Soto Zen school, as a matter a fact he had no such desire. His followers founded it after his death, whether this was against his will or not is not very clear.
@8no1likeme-infinitestar652 жыл бұрын
Liked at 666🙏❣️
@SlawomirSzczygiel-c9q3 ай бұрын
I would like to thank you for putting your own voice into this vid. There is a tons of similar content, but like 80 % of them have ai generated voice, and this is so disgusting, that I cannot listen to that. You put some effort, so the effect is a pleasure. Thank you.
@wabisabi36192 жыл бұрын
Good content but you need to stop putting ads right on the middle. Ruins the videos.
@kevc-69-2 жыл бұрын
Just notice that you can't see your own face, this is all you need.
@MissTeaq Жыл бұрын
I think I’ve heard Alan Watts say “you can’t look into your own eyes, or taste your own tongue”.
@timothyacker86862 жыл бұрын
Amenpeacebewithyou future present past in All dimensions for all eternity in the name of Jesus H Christ....................
@kingleon980 Жыл бұрын
+1
@LezlieJ10 ай бұрын
There narrator keeps talking about ‘substance’ as though we are all of same substance because we are all Buddha Nature. This ‘substance way of thinking is not what Dogan’s. In the west it is John Locke In the east its Brahman. Dogan said all things are Buddha Nature meaning all things are impermanent. Not that we’re made of the one thing, substance. That is our nature. Realising this is to transcend the self.
@petermihacerar1137 Жыл бұрын
Get a grip! The one that is in it does not talk about it, but lives it in a way that is noticed only by few!!!!!!!!
@maicolx77762 жыл бұрын
Doesn t make sense. Prefer Sri Ramana Maharshi, totally rational and simple.
@Purwapada6 ай бұрын
don't reify buddha nature and conflate monism with panpsychism. interpenetration is not the same in buddhism there is no "substance" because that goes against Madhyamika.
@_lonelywolf2 жыл бұрын
No. The path to enlightenment is not enlightenment even though Buddha nature is the same whether you're enlightened or not. You are enlightened only when you truly realize Buddha nature, not conceptually but psychologically. The realization that only "what is" exists (i.e. the realization of suchness, shunyata, lack of inherent essence, etc.) must be assimilated on a psychological level. The degree of assimilation of the latter translates into the difference between kensho and satori.
@oO-_-_-_-Oo Жыл бұрын
No.
@dbuck19645 ай бұрын
Mu
@TheEternalClown Жыл бұрын
Who says there is such a thing as 'enlightenment' at all? Perhaps it is only a subjective experience, a perspectival shift, but not towards the 'absolute truth' or a 'higher' state of mind, just a different perspective, for better or for worse. Definitely nothing connected to escaping the cycle of rebirth or exhausting karmic debts, both of which are unfounded faith-based ideas.
@Ikaros23 Жыл бұрын
Who cares?. Do your Zazen, it’s good for your health. And calms down your buzzy speculating « inner chatter» . It wont make your life perfect, but it will give you more contentment and clairity
@TheEternalClown Жыл бұрын
@@Ikaros23 I say this because of Buddhism's love affair with threats of awful hells, incarnations, reincarnation at all, seemingly endless labor, extreme obedience and detachment, too much Apollonian influence (esp. if you are a monk, which is really the only advisable direction if we live in the fucked-up 'Buddhist cosmology'). Outside of the beliefs, the practices are still viable.
@Ikaros23 Жыл бұрын
@@TheEternalClown " Zen" and " Buddhism" is not real. A life of constant bliss don`t exist. The world is in constant change. And " Dukkha", that is the pain you experience from your speculations, worry`s about the existence of life ( your life). Maby there is reincarnation, maby it isn`t. The whole point of Soto Zen is to do your meditation, that is all you have control over. And all you need to worry about. Your mind is greedy for enlightenment. And this greed, is what creates your suffering/discomfort. And narcissism ( your fake self image as a wise man) . I`m not saying this to troll you. Just stating the facts. That doing your meditation in the Shinkantaza way. That is " just sitting meditation", and quiting all these questions ( notice that chattering part of your mind, creates these questions on it`s own. Will most likely be good for your health. That is the " chattering" part of the mind will still down. Start with 5-10 minutes a day with a timer. Just let your mind " wonder". That is don`t stress with the breath ( breath normaly ). Just try to have a stable posture ( it don`t need to be perfect). After some week`s you should start to notice that the world will seem a bit more " Zen" in your eyes, even if it is in constant " flux". And your thoughts about the afterlife will calm down ( you will find out about that when you are dead anyway)
@Radswid2 жыл бұрын
The whole style, hectic cuts, flood of images, fast way of speaking is totally postmodern. This video is anti-zen.
@kellyodowd3949 Жыл бұрын
:). I adore this style of editing videos.
@hansburch370011 ай бұрын
Dogen interessiert sich auch nicht für Buddhas: Freiheit, mittlerem Weg und vollkommenen Wesen.