Seek nothing, just sit: Life in a Zen monastery

[@MuhoZen]

Disturbed by the cursor? Here is a version without: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKqskJtpqZhngJosi=MXmpo601-9ZBAnxq

[@noahlapuz3853]

As above so below. As withing so without.

[@TRUTHorSTFU]

Actually YOU're disturbed by us not being disturbed but merely telling you the truth you didn't know.

[@backupviber6285]

Not disturbed at all, is there any difference is there a cursor, or there is not ?

[@Stillpoint23]

Didn't even notice it...

[@TRUTHorSTFU]

Time for more zazen! rotflmfao

[@yahngtoonz]

People are being distracted by a tiny mouse cursor sitting still in the middle of the screen. Usually, a mouse cursor is moving around searching what to click next. Be like the mouse cursor. "Seek nothing, just sit." Or let it be proof that you are easily distracted by the smallest of things.

[@Mashasenin]

Ugh, whatever. Or maybe we just want to be blue to watch without interruption.

[@yahngtoonz]

@@Mashasenin 😂

[@windrock]

Hahaaaa

[@PhillipBell]

I'm more distracted by the high volume soundtrack with cellos and nature sounds drowning out the dialog.

[@Zacharryg645]

I didnt even see the cursor in whole video only after this comment

[@childlikejoy]

You don't need to be in a monastery to live like this, though I suspect it must be fun! Simple living and minimalism make life more contemplative as well. I like 4am the dead of night!

[@myouounoanjii]

This was beautiful. Really exciting getting a view into the life of zen practitioners. Living while suffering as a practice is what I'll take with me from Hirotada, the father. 🙏🏻

[@cbehenna]

The cursor in the middle of the screen presents some interesting dukkha! Thanks for the upload

[@Shaftalooooo]

They teaching you the art of indifference. Focus what is important and not be distracted.

[@cbehenna]

@@Shaftalooooo indeed!

[@LOVEisTHEultimateLAW]

What a relief to be empty, then God can live your life.” - Rumi

[@aaroninternet4159]

Beautiful!

[@HamasPringles]

Ironically, God did not live his life.

[@Shaftalooooo]

I can say to Rumi: What a relief to be empty, empty of the desires of even a deity like God. We are God

[@HamasPringles]

@@Shaftalooooo How's managing Cincinnati going for you?

[@Shaftalooooo]

@@HamasPringles Rumi was from my country Afghanistan. He wasn’t Arab or a Terorist.

[@njosborne5540]

This is a beautiful documentary. Thank you 🙏

[@MuhoZen]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@tomfreier.01]

From my experience, meditating helps that the body does not interfere. The body has to feel good, otherwise you keep thinking about how to suppress the disorder. So I didn't meditate sitting, with a strained back, but in a semi-recumbent position in bed. I have several pillows (pillows 40 x 60 cm) on my back and one pillow under each of my arms, which are next to the body, so it's comfortable and I cover myself with the duvet, so it's warm. So the body feels good and does not disturb. I keep my eyes closed. Now only the thoughts are there. Thoughts calm down best if you leave them as they are, but don't think actively, just observe. Some topics are so urgent that you actively think about them. That's OK then. What is decisive, however, is the inactive observation of the thoughts. Once the most pressing problems have been thought through, thinking calms down and a void sets in, which proves to be very restful after meditation. One is no longer driven by constant thinking, one has taken a vacation from thinking, so to speak. And you come into contact with spirits and get to know the magical possibilities of the spirit world.

[@seanratten9567]

LOVE THAT🫠

[@OgdenM]

I also recline. We in the west are not used to sitting on the floor in any form of crossed legged. We're used to backsupport of some kind. Most teachers will say its fine. That to just be aware that it can be harder to stay awake and aware and not give into torpor. That one might have to raise energy to stay fully awake. That sitting upright can make that part easier. But, if you're not used to it or have physical issues and are trying to sit upright well then that can become a LARGER issue. Meditation is not one size / style fits all. The local Zen center near me even has places for you to lay down. (And like 10 different types of cushions, some benches and I think some backjacks. ... and chairs)

[@tomfreier.01]

@@OgdenM Staying awake is not necessary. If the body wants to sleep, then it should be allowed to do so. The body then needs sleep. This sleep is helpful for the meditation process. You should allow yourself time to sleep. For me, dreams were important while I was sleeping and were important for the development of my consciousness. Even if you think of something to do during meditation, you should do it immediately because then it will disappear from your thoughts and you can continue the meditation in a relaxed manner.

[@acreblade1264]

That was a really helpful comment, thank you 😊

[@WoodsyLadyM]

Excellent documentary from NHK World Japan where I first watched it. Thanks so much for posting on your channel. 🙏🙏🙏

[@MuhoZen]

Thank you too!

[@JustVibingFullStop]

Lovely documentary. Much appreciated. Thank you! 🙏

[@MuhoZen]

Glad you enjoyed it and thank you too!

[@garvitsrivastava959]

Absolutely superb. Keep up the great work.

[@Freedomnomad555]

Amazing soto zen temple. A woman abbess, a self sustaining community of practice.

[@bornimusic]

Thank you so much for this

[@MuhoZen]

You're so welcome!

[@OgdenM]

Stop looking for answers. Just sit and let go of any seeking, any grasping, anger, desire etc, peace will come. The water will clear. From that peace will come. The important questions and along with them the answers will come from that peace. Any answer that does not bring you more peace or leads you to more grasping or anger etc etc is incorrect. Let go more. It's simple really, just hard for some and easy for others. It might be easier for you then you think it will be. Or it might be harder and that is also ok. Don't expect it to be either hard or easy. Just take the action of letting go. Most wise people do this; even the scientists that are so famous do it. They became peaceful and just observed. From that came the questions and the answers and the experiments that brought more answers. You can of course also learn to actually actively ask questions; but without great skill you will muddy the waters again. You have to have the right size pebble and toss it in the water at the right speed OR be able to stabilize the water and the sediment to be able to actually ask questions without muddying the water. (Which then muddy water just gives you horrid answers that will lead to suffering.) But really, all actively asking questions is going to teach you is to stop seeking and asking questions. Ergo, to stop seeking. Granted, being able to stabilize the mind through super complex situations can be useful and even fun. Imagine being able to toss a giant boulder (or have one tossed) into a pond and not even have the water ripple, to have no murky cloud bellow up from the mud at the bottom. For the pond to still be at peace. That pond is of course your mind. I'm not saying I can do all of this.. I'm just saying it's possible. Seeking just brings suffering. Letting should feel good and if it doesn't, let go of the pain, the fear or whatever comes up. It's only for the moment, you can pick things back up if you need to. (All though really, picking things back up isn't an action we do, it is just something that happens because of our prior habits of how we live life. It's amazing watching this process happen honestly.. and scary and bothersome.. as it should be.

[@tonyhill2318]

This actually resonates with me, and I've kinda confused by zen mostly. Thanks!

[@kingdaleclarke]

Sitting and trying to let go still requires effort and an apparent doer,its still a form of seeking and is futile

[@OgdenM]

@@kingdaleclarke , does it though? The idea is letting go of the idea of there even being a doer. Or so I've heard.

[@OgdenM]

@@tonyhill2318 , oh I don't like Zen myself... thats just the sort of stuff they say. I prefer the Thai Forest tradition in the Theravada school. And the Suttas from the Pali Canon It's thousands of times more simple yet utterly hardcore compared to everything else. Basically, it says craving, desire, anger and a few other things are always the issue, uproot them and you'll be happy sitting around doing nothing and being at peace. No Koans, no specific way to walk meditation beyond looking at the ground 6 feet in front of you to keep yourself from engaging in sense pleasure. No worries really about what reality is even. It's all about just letting go.

[@bobrik335]

Love Japan ! Blessed country to have such spaces.

[@mariaazzan8625]

Sometimes the people around you won't understand your journey. They don't need to, it's not for them🎉

[@kphamcao]

You can see a solidity within Myogen's answer at the end of the video. That's the Hallmark of a true spiritual seeker. Even though I'm not a monk, I too have been forced to practice meditation to lessen my own mental torment. Sometime it becomes too much. But then I remember that enduring life's suffering is actually the fast track of spiritual growth. And then I feel better.

[@Johnny-k5y]

Dont just do something! Sit there!

[@vividdreams7072]

I really enjoyed watching this, thank you. So interesting.

[@MuhoZen]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@yggdasil]

Such a beautiful little film! Thank you for sharing Muho! 🙏

[@MuhoZen]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@jeffreyjackson5229]

If you are able to sit, that's an accomplishment, because the majority are simply exhausting themselves by endless seeking and achieving what only lasts for a few moments and beginning a gain. Worse, you get to the end of your life and see all the time that you squandered as my father did.

[@Jonislaus]

That cursor somewhat disturbed my zen… But it was a good doc👍

[@chinchilla_462]

Did you get disturbed by the cursor or the thought that says you're disturbed by the cursor?

[@fernandofigueirinhas7110]

@@chinchilla_462

[@chinchilla_462]

@sandjvj911 What is a feeling when it's fully embraced?

[@markwhite4398]

It allows you to practice your zen. It's kinda perfect actually lol

[@djsgolfer714]

It reminded me Ramana Maharshi 😂 “The mind of one meditating on a single object becomes one-pointed. And one-pointedness of mind leads to abidance in the Self.”

[@katnip198]

Second time i watched this video. This is a wonderful documentary. Thank you

[@MuhoZen]

Wow, thank you!

[@nesiansides7133]

For you can not think without consciousness, but you can be conscious without thinking 💙

[@nesiansides7133]

Who is the observer being observed.

[@OgdenM]

@@mat.se57 , that comes from a huge misunderstanding of what "not self / no self" is. There is indeed a self, that self is the moment by moment awareness of everything constantly changing and even that awareness itself is constantly changing. No self simply states that because the sense of self / awareness is constantly changing it can not be a "self" and therefor is not worth grasping a hold of. If you have practiced any form of meditation enough (even mindfulness / something secular) you can get into moment by moment awareness at some level. The more you practice, the shorter the moments become. It's all just a lesson, a tool to teach you to let got and be at peace. It's not worth grasping, nothing is.

[@grahamtrave1709]

you cannot do anything without consciousness as you would be anaesthetised or dead.

[@markdeguzman6556]

Look not in the past nor in the future. Search not for ideas and you liberate the mind from thoughts. This process of being aware during any activity at the present moment has a deeper meaning than seeking attainment or the end result. Not clinging to any idea is Zen practice. No worries. No ambition. A heart that is thankful and detached, and a mind that is quiet and calm is the key to Zazen.

[@MusashiTetsukobu]

Everything looks so romantic, so mysterious, and luring on the screen, but go and do it! An excruciating monastic life, of hunger, lack of proper sleep, regimented to the smallest movement. And all that for the eventuality that you may receive the news that at the bottom line, there is "Nobody Home", that you have never been born, and that you'll never die. In case you had the inclination, and in your place I will meditate on all aspects and the remote probability of a reward. You may face requests to engage in homosexuality, and you may be bullied. I received the news that there was Nobody Home in my place wearing pajamas, smoking, drinking coffee, and in the company of Jojo the cat. Well eaten, well rested, and listening to classical music. Signed by Rinzai Zen Master Musashi Tetsukobu

[@MusashiTetsukobu]

@shivadasa So?

[@MusashiTetsukobu]

@shivadasa Your comment means nothing. It is inane. Who cares?

[@vertbeke7977]

Great documentary ! ❤

[@MuhoZen]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@StevenPillay-w1v]

Thank you.

[@MuhoZen]

You're welcome!

[@Terrilltf]

The cursor kept me centred. Thanks for sharing the doc.

[@MuhoZen]

You're welcome!

[@lapassion24]

Watching at the beginning, I think you have found a place in it, meaning you love the work, from farming, to cleaning, to nature and observing .. I think it has made a master out of you!! ; ) seriously the same stuff that I learn from my brother , the discipline part , I think you have discovered that.. the other part is human, people, you can get along with someone one minute and the next they back to their nature and you back to yours, like me I’m very lazy and relax ^ ^ so if you are with me and you are not like that you will be stirred up!! ^ ^ the other part is nature and the zen part .. which is “you,” I cannot find it ,, I’m always attached to melancholy, sadness in some ways.. if I do observe nature and find things .

[@Swing20]

Great documentary thank you all! 🙏

[@MuhoZen]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@PaulvanderHeide-my5fw]

Nice documentary. I had the same experience in 1986 for one year in the temple of Tenriyuji in Fukui ken. 👏🏽

[@MuhoZen]

So cool!

[@Peekingduck]

Great documentary, Thanks for sharing it The cursor is an interesting obstacle to maneuver the mind around :)

[@MuhoZen]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@cyberlopo2478]

Le petit curseur au milieu de l'écran est un maître zen.

[@snuf6726]

There was a time, when I was young (10-15), when my own thoughts were my favorite place to dwell. My mind was a place of refuge and peace. I sought to be in it. I have been mourning the loss of that place for the past 20 years. I loved so much but lost even more. I would give anything to return to a place of peace. Anything would be better than this constant inner turmoil I feel. I miss being able to rest inside my head. To avoid one's own mind like this is the greatest tragedy. I would give anything to try and live like this, but it will never happen. I know what will end me.

[@lapassion24]

Zen is about a place to be happy and kind, but yourself is real, believe in that , hold that up high. Like the post of the birds ..

[@patriciahowellcassity767]

Thank you

[@MuhoZen]

Welcome!

[@pratik6342]

lovely documentary...authentic

[@vkokhan88]

Amazing work !

[@MuhoZen]

Thanks a lot!

[@as_the_turntables]

Great doc.

[@blackbird5634]

I met 93 year old Zen Monk Stan ''Butan'' White at the Hokoji Zendo in Taos New Mexico. In some ways he seemed to regret ''just sitting'' with his life. He fought in WW2 and Korea, he was a welder and an artist and got mixed up with the Beat Generation guys, Ginsberg, and Kerouac and Suzuki Roshi in California. We talked a lot about spending some time at a Zendo but not wasting a lifetime in quiet contemplation of what could have been. You won't regret spending a year or two in this way, but don't lose yourself.

[@adelhartreisig9020]

Never happened, just sit and stfu

[@blackbird5634]

@shivadasa That's not what I said.

[@jeffreyjackson5229]

Nice documentary. Very thoughtful provoking.

[@MuhoZen]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@wanderingNprobablylost]

"the more we push them away, the more aggressively they come back" - I wonder what he's running away from, and whether he needs to run away from it at all. Mindfulness isn't about pushing things away, but about being present and accepting thoughts as cloud. Also, human nature has needs that are natural and expected. For the father trying to be a monk, that's a tough one because if he has no kids, it'd be easy, but those kids did not ask to be born. They deserve the love and support of a father. Even Buddha went from home life to homelessness, but that still doesn't negate the missing needs of the children.

[@OgdenM]

So much yes to things coming back more aggressively if you push them away. I've had those things literally start yelling at me in my mind because I had pushed them away. It was very scary suddenly seriously hearing a voice screaming in my mind that I KNEW was my extremely pissed off, frustrated, scared and desperate voice. .. now my mind does random stuff like go, "PSST! Over here!!" in a kinda playful voice when I'm meditating. .. that seriously happened a few weeks ago. I managed to stay in mediation for like 3-4 mins after it which I'm pretty proud of. or my mind also likes to tell me jokes that are really very cutting and useful advice. (Also it sometimes just laughs at me in loving kindness when I'm taking things to seriously.) I had to have a long conversation with it about the jokes to understand what it was doing and to ask it to take it easy with the knife. Things were getting a bit to bloody and moving to fast for me to be able to feasibly make changes. ---it just laughed in loving kindness and said, "Ok" Then I got frustrated things were not moving fast enough any more after awhile.. .hahahhah! Silly me seeking things.

[@Mingwingz]

I think he says that he had to face the things he used to push away with mindfulness. He did not say that mindfulness was a way to push things away. For the father, yes hus children need a father, but a good one. Maybe he was not a good one.

[@wanderingNprobablylost]

@@Mingwingz I get that, but it sounds like whatever it is he's trying to push away (or confront), it's unresolved...curious about what it is. He's a troubled young soul looking for answer and peace.

[@nguyendl4477]

Thanks NHK World! The Zen essence is Zazen. ''Seek nothing, just sit'' so we can know ourselves better and develop our wisdom or a Certain Art of Living (happier &healthier 1%) 🧘🧘‍♂

[@omarserniabat2662]

Beautiful. Thanks for sharing

[@MuhoZen]

My pleasure 😊

[@jamiecurry-gl1jh]

Beautiful. I wonder often if this is for me, If I knew Japanese I would probably be there by now. Metta.

[@Czoo2]

Peace and love

[@peterbudd44]

Brilliant ... Thanks.

[@MuhoZen]

You're welcome!😇

[@faragraf9380]

in past i haven’t understood that, because I was full. Now I know, that was o.k and it was not to change, by doing nothing. I had to go threw things, to understand. Now I understand just be and seek nothing. But thats not forever and not always. Thats a part of being, a good part, same as the other.

[@grahamtrave1709]

People take robes to find happiness. People disrobe to find happiness. There is nothing to find, stop chasing. Wherever you go you will find conditions you do not like and that will not like you.

[@605highsprings]

Four noble truths say there is a path out of suffering, that’s what you want to find.

[@aka6double0]

Wonderful, thanks for sharing.

[@MuhoZen]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@janallexander5173]

Love the video .

[@MuhoZen]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@maexmaestermann471]

Thanks!

[@MuhoZen]

Welcome!

[@paulcartographer]

Thank you for sharing

[@MuhoZen]

Thanks for watching!

[@gaurabsharma4482]

I want to learn zen meditation and more about buddhist methods.

[@bernoGarcia]

honest question, I live in Japan as foreign student. Does someone know if it is possible to join a monastery and practice meditation on weekends? Or for a a couple weeks like during vacations? Appreciate the comments.

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

Ask around , or contact that zen place . Someone will know

[@joybagasala3545]

If you are disturb by the cursor key zen is not for you.

[@jeffreyjackson5229]

To have a quiet, peaceful, orderly, and good life, isn't that enough? A life with few wordly cares, few wordly possessions, no drama, no egoic battles with anyone, not daily being projected upon by someone who can't cope with their issues, isn't that enough? If you can watch the insanity and not be consumed by it, isn't that enough? While I feel the pull of seeking, chasing, desiring like anyone else, but when I step outside of that and look clearly, such a life free from that is a blessing and he who has it is fortunate.

[@faragraf9380]

you cant decide what kind of life you have. But you can find yourself in it and be.

[@jeffreyjackson5229]

Don't try to push your thoughts away. This is an endless endeavor. Work such that they don't pull you away.

[@vignesh6564]

26:26 december intense impt rohatsu sesshin,27:45 kinhin walking,43:40 hair,47:16 special monastry

[@robertjsmith]

All people should do this.

[@aug.jam.1]

Very nice ❤

[@MuhoZen]

Many many 🙏

[@mkbestmaan]

Thank you po. Eastern philosophy practitioner here.

[@MuhoZen]

Welcome!

[@bobcaygeon975]

Which is the one where they teach you Kung Fu?

[@SpecialEdDHD]

Ya life is real calm and peaceful when you don't have to work and rent to pay lol.

[@rosatamayo447]

I WAS 30 YEARS IN ZEN PRACTISE......WONDERFUL .....BUT FOR ME WASH NOT ENOUGHT.......IN A VERY INCREDIBLE WAY I AM BACK TO CATHOLIC CHURCH.. AS FOR ME I AM IN THE PLACE I MUST BE...MY HUSBAND IS JAPANESE.....WE HAVE MIX MARRIAGE... ZEN HELP ME IN MY CATHOLIC PRAYERS...❤❤❤ .

[@snowflakemelter1172]

30 years of Zazen doesn't lead to a basic error of the imagination that is a God delusion, I can't even begin to see how this claim is real.

[@omnomnomreviews]

@@snowflakemelter1172anything is possible. better to worship than have a holier than thou attitude like u. all is delusion only god is real.

[@darmagatha4990]

❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏💐💐💐🌻🌻🌻🙏🙏🙏

[@Jack-il3qv]

'If you cannot find the truth where you are, where do you expect to find it?' - Dogen.

[@MuhoZen]

Interesting quote! Do you have a source for that?

[@Jack-il3qv]

@@MuhoZen I think it may be somewhere in Shobogenzo. I feel it relates to, 'Nothing further to seek.' by Bodhidharma or, 'This is it!' used by Alan Watts.

[@MuhoZen]

Yes, it sounds more like Alan Watts indeed. Or E. E. Cummings...

[@jozefbania]

Nothing is hidden everything is here we are making it difficult because we stick to things that are impermanent. Stick to anything but. THAT

[@dann409]

9:00 just now noticed the cursor

[@bobcaygeon975]

That time that Sandler and Jack Nicholson went to a monastery to confront his childhood bully, whod become a monk.

[@backupviber6285]

Hi everybody. When I just sit and just asking Who I am, I can go very deep, my person picture is erasing, and strange visions and feelings come. And noting I can get such special vision, I feel a possession of desire of superpowers, I feel they are exactly close as touch of my fingers. And I can not overcome that posession 🤔 hovever I understand, that khowing Who I really am is much more valuable then superpowers.

[@DizzyCsango]

Gaijin who eats natto: respect...

[@mineboro5996]

One question; when you sit zazen, are the eyes focussed or unfocussed?

[@MuhoZen]

You can find my answer here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWSzgWhjnJd8mtEsi=aoKNfIhrUTR3K4PR&t=1403

[@mineboro5996]

@@MuhoZen Thank you.

[@DigitallySickAnalog84-n5c]

I'm guessing the mouse left at the center of the screen is a test to see if you would continue to seek wisdom from this documentary and not be distracted :)

[@chirovandenbos2339]

People are programmed robot slaves of the system thinking happyness starts with extern factors like status, money, material things that means nothing and its relativ and an illusion create by society. If your happyness depend on extern factors you will never be because extern factors are endless. Thats why a lot of people buy stuff or look a certain way to create an illusion for the outside world out of emptyness. Happyness starts inside you. The more people around you, the more expectations, talk about others, lying, frustrations, negativity, jealousy, hate, double standards, own benefits, judge, comparing etc..... reflection of their broken souls. Alone or in solitude you have more strength, peace, power, happyness, freedom and time to reflect on yourself. No, not feeling superior or better then others but more be carefully and awake. Be the light in your own life. The here and now is where the magic happens

[@OgdenM]

You know those Staples commercials with the Easy Button? The reality is that there is a happiness button that is much easier then that annoying easy button. Want to be happy? Be happy. --course it's not that easy for a lot of people, maybe most because you indeed have to learn that happiness starts with internal factors. One way to do this is to learn to extend the length of time something external "makes" you happy. This for me really kicked the process of decoupling my happiness from external things in to high gear. 20 years before that it was realizing that I could almost make myself feel like I had done drugs without doing the drugs.... and that it was actually better in SO many ways then the drugs. ---if only I hadn't gotten lost in the weeds for the next 20 years sigh, I would probably have been a monk 15 years ago. Also for sure to not feeling superior or better and feeling more careful and awake. I've dabbled with the superiority with this stuff and all it did was make me sad , depressed and suffering. Mind you, I didn't mean to feel superior, it was just that I wasn't around anyone who had felt / seen / realized the things I did so it kinda just happened. Once I started finding people that had or were wiser then me that started to change. (And I briefly felt like dirt then hah!) Anyone who thinks they are superior has an internal aspect that knows they aren't and that brings about suffering.

[@dannyhuang8773]

I practice zazen, but I still pensively hope to experience satori someday.

[@robertjsmith]

No one is practicing Zazen

[@hansburch3700]

Satori ist, wenn Du Deinem Wesen vertraust, dass es schon immer vollkommen war und bleibt.

[@rosatamayo447]

THE ONE WHO HAS TWO CHILDREN...HE HAS RESPONSABILITIES HE IS A FATHER AND HUSBAND THAT IS HIS PATH......HE WILL BE UNHAPPY IF HE DOES OTHERWISE....SAD SAD.

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

Choosing other peoples path for them is a fools path

[@theunmanifest9727]

"seek nothing" is misleading. it implies they are the seeker, encouraging the seeker to take control and stop doing something. the sense of being a seeker seeking is taking place or not, and this activity can be recognize in the direct experience, and when it does, the illusion of being that seeker ends.

[@mickydee1289]

I wonder what happens after 3 years. It is hard to imagine ever going back to society after this.

[@subadrawijesekera1702]

Why dont you come to sri lankan forest monastery . Im sure you will find yourselves .

[@percival1137]

The life of Buddah teaches you cannot isolate yourself from sorrow and expect to find enlightenment. We must live full lives and experience sorrow so we may forgive. Forgiveness is not for the forgiven, but for the forgiver. SIBM

[@thenightrider-x]

unfortunately i know nothing about zen practices. what i do know is that when we know that we're part of god's creation then we know that we have value.

[@dmtjnani9951]

Nothing here. All a dream. No meditation needed; for distraction does not exist. Aum

[@MuhoZen]

Not Aum, but Moo: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fH-4lmWOpZt8etksi=oelYwdVlA3YLyV7g

[@dianewalker9154]

God created us as emotional beings. We cannot be without emotions (unless you are a psychopath), but must learn how to process our emotions in a positive manner.

[@shanemilk9741]

Does students have to pay to live there?

[@MuhoZen]

You can find all of that information on their website. Link in video description.

[@OgdenM]

Looks like you do yes. I prefer Theravada (And the Thai forest tradition) for many reasons and the lack of having to pay is one of them. Everything is "dana" based. Ergo, pay if you feel you were helped and pay within you means. All without any real pressure. It's like this even if you go stay at a monastery for a month or longer or go on a week (or longer) retreat. I've felt for years that if a spiritual teaching is good enough they will not have to ask for money. Just provide the opportunity to give money via a box or bowl or venmo/ paypal or whatever link. Zen is great for a lot of people though so. ... just not me.

[@robertjsmith]

Go where their are no mosquitoes.

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

@@OgdenMso how does the practise pay for your food?

[@lapassion24]

Inside!! ; )

[@Veronicat-of4nz]

Has anyone else noticed there is a mouse cursor in the middle of the screen. Extremely distracting when you notice it. It makes the video unwatchable so better not to notice it.

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

Seek nothing

[@dryjoke]

What to seek? A purpose? Life doesn't need purpose, it just exist without any, it is only a consequence. The only thing we need is: to feel, because it springs every reason and what we make from it is in our power . If mind starts to wonder, I observe...I don't let any thoughts or events enslave my perception.

[@aaaronjayD]

The cursor is The Way

[@michaelw.2909]

There is no one who lives ! Z A Z E N .. . .

[@ska5568]

*I refuse to seek to sit*

[@miguelangelleonabarca2921]

I have seen that people spend a lot of time "just sitting" in that temple. But not all of them seem to get the fruit.

[@nicbarth3838]

An interesting observation can you elaborate?

[@OgdenM]

This is not just an issue in Zen. It's an issue in all wisdom practices. The reasons behind it are multifold. It could be a bad teacher. It could be lack of a teacher. It could be the person is sitting for the wrong reasons. It could be that they are grasping on to things. It could be that they don't understand the goal is peace (for lack of a better word as a Thai Forest teacher just told me today.) It could be that they don't understand the the only real action you have to take is to let go and then sit. And that if you are asking what you're suppose to let go of, you're grasping. Whatever your senses show you, let it go. Don't process it, not make meaning of it. Let the sense contact go. There are things like desires etc to let go of... later or before. There order of these things doesn't matter much. All that is important is the result, that they bring peace and renunciation of worldly desires. Discovering the "Happiness button" is a useful tool for some. Learn to extend the amount of time you "get" joy from some external thing. It starts to decouple your sense of joy and help you understand that joy is caused by internal circumstances. I'm not sure Zen really deals with joy though honestly.... they seem pretty much the dry approach. Or perhaps more aptly, the sand paper approach. I'm more a fan of Theravada and specifically the Thai forest tradition. They openly say that joy from mediation is to be sought after because it can help you let go of the world.. and that even that joy should eventually be let go also of course.

[@nicbarth3838]

@@OgdenM greater comment that last bit on letting go of things after you have found joy in the world seems proper.

[@robertjsmith]

@@miguelangelleonabarca2921 “the fruit” is that there is nothing to get ?

[@miguelangelleonabarca2921]

​​@@robertjsmithyes but it's no so simple. I,ve practicing for 40 years or more. If some one would have told me that when I started I would never had believed that. In my case I practiced with the koan Mu. You may get kensho rather quick when you practice a koan (or you may not). When you get kensho you know by yourself that there IS nothing to get but before that it's non sense.

[@vivid.worker]

Looks like a difficult practice

[@nazortube]

carthusian monks also emphasis a silence but in different way than zen monks

[@MrTetsukobu]

Zen Master Ikkyu wrote: Sitting there, Losing your time Looking for something That you'll never get By any effort or endeavor. What a waste of a life.

[@Che_Guna]

☸️🛐

[@lapassion24]

We look at plants and animals we see them live so freely, of course animals they kill to survive , but don’t we wish to be like that .. here in our daily lives when we get to a place of right and wrong it feels like drops of poison in your body it just sinks in and kill you.. why is there has to be a place of right and wrong, i think it’s love, love is righteous..in the Bible, the thief even he said that he is wrong, he admits himself, and that was it.. .i guess in the Bible it holds certain things so sacred so holy that’s why the Bible looks at certain things as Sin.. I think in Zen we explore more room to give to each other .. if one day you able to see forgiveness is a place that completes you.. would you want to share it with another person? Want to share just want to share , or truly want to share?

[@MuhoZen]

Thank you for your comment! "The bird’s singing and the flower’s laughter appear naturally, completely independent from the person sitting in zazen at the foot of the cliff." The bird doesn’t sing in honor of the person in zazen. The flower doesn’t blossom to amaze the person with her beauty. In exactly the same way, the person doesn’t sit in zazen in order to get satori. Every single being simply realizes the self, through the self, for the self. (Kodo Sawaki)

[@MuhoZen]

antaiji.org/archives/eng/kodo-sawaki-to-you.shtml

[@lapassion24]

Thanx for sharing !!

[@lapassion24]

In the Bible why question why it has to be righteousness? I guess it’s a place of genuineness, earnest,, means you wouldn’t do it just out of your convenience or just a nice gesture but it’s a place you do it consistently, and you wouldn’t want others to do that way to you , something just a fly by, because deep down it’s not respectful.. but it is a place of earnest , earnest in seeking .. meaning all of you is earnest.. you wouldn’t have good judgement but go out and break the law.. so in earnest seeking, it is God ways , or to have godly character .. it’s actually a place of perfection even if you are Not perfect .. .. maybe that’s why He said like your father in heaven .. live and witness ..

[@lapassion24]

@@MuhoZen wow , you are mindful, and in it you find yourself! You find happiness .

[@plumeria66]

Or you can just treat your inner being as a Zen Temple and rest there, meditate, do all the things you need to do in life from that inner sanctuary.

[@Bruhfundis1767]

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