Zen OBLITERATES the 2v2 Rating World Record

[@VincentVanGirth]

Meanwhile, Epic Games can't even have a working leaderboard

[@JayZX14]

Go on tracker network if you want to see more stats

[@Kaish1.]

u are NOT joruez

[@LetsGetPolitical_69]

u are NOT Kaish1.

[@jondoe384]

Get gud then lol

[@VincentVanGirth]

I'm the joruez of Platinum@@Kaish1.

[@Twistly130]

zen gained 3 mmr for every win and lost 13-16 for every loss btw

[@vitrums]

it means he needed to have at least 5:1 win ratio, which in turn entails min 83% WR 😲

[@Carras1]

@@vitrums👌

[@MrCamille9999]

That would be true if he had the same gain/loss ratio when he was closer to the rest of the pack so I assume his wr is somewhat lower. Still extremely impressive though@@vitrums

[@vitrums]

@@MrCamille9999 Well it's a number for shifting window WR corresponding to MMR discrepancy of the og subj, obviously not the all time WR.

[@greatbriton8425]

Basically the higher your MMR vs the opponent the more you lose on a loss and the less you gain on a win. The key is to be able to beat your peers to win good MMR, OR, play more often than your peers and score tiny MMRs off the weaker players, which is obviously what Zen did: play 2v2s a LOT more than his peers.

[@juanvovoncebuitragogaleano863]

3:39 The movement on this goal is so smooth and good

[@Chuggo.]

Zen out here making SSL 2

[@mhmd._.sai.zen.]

LMAOOOOO UNDERRATED COMMENT FR

[@djwgro]

except he's so much further above SSL 1 than that

[@mendeldukes2496]

it would be ss1 4 if we went as high as possible🤣😆

[@noahhulbert1565]

@snezzy3082 I've been thinking about this too. If they were to make a new rank, how many would be allowed to hold it? I personally think #1 only should just get the title of "The Chosen One".

[@yurilopes420]

@snezzy3082 nah, just let it go champ, grand champ, supersonic legend, Zen literally just Zen as a rank didnt he literally lift the entire skill ceiling of pro play? didnt he do shit that we'd never seen before, back to back in 1s showmatches? he's the definition of the next generation in rocket league, like max is for f1. getting a rank named after him would be fucking sick, specially since "zen" means tranquility, at peace, and shit

[@gstvo.]

someone on twitter said a GC1 is closer to a Bronze 1 in MMR than to Zen💀

[@Carras1]

He s right

[@redvic83]

Nah it was a c2 instead of gc1

[@Cat-jh8kh]

he probably means amount of wins to get to that mmr and hed be right

[@asarll_]

No, the guy on twitter is right. Zen is at 2720 now and GC1 is 1435. this is a diffrence of 1285mmr, if u subtract the 1285mmr from 1435 u get 150 wich is Bronze 1 Div 3

[@Carras1]

Zen 2730 points GC 1 1345 points Bronce 3 250 points Gc to Bronce 3 1185 points Gc to Zen 1395 points

[@Sorai_]

This zen guy seems pretty good at this game

[@krousstille]

Ikr ? He should consider going pro and playing RLCS I think he'd go pretty far

[@grantpeterson1789]

​@@krousstille yall are hilarious

[@Felix-co]

I hope he wins RLCS championship when he debuts

[@senorlodenstein]

​@@krousstilleyou're a drone

[@23brock]

Its called a joke loser​@@senorlodenstein

[@b.j.g5949]

Yo I’m d3, nice to be included in a Johnnyboi vid

[@Kw4Mc]

yeah but johnny is wrong he meant d2 div2 not d3 div2

[@Heroo01]

@@Kw4Mc damn that's my 1s rank

[@emryskaplan]

Johnny can u explain again sorry i was watching zen

[@spaceyouppy]

6:53 bro passed the controller to reeho lmao

[@aldozen_rl]

real xD

[@hugobg4057]

Fairy peak 3th is crazy tbh

[@timisfat420]

3th 💀

[@SmeagolTheGreat]

@@timisfat420Thirth, as Mike Tyson would say. But yes, I'd like to see Zen and Fairy together in a 2v2 tourney.

[@hugobg4057]

@@timisfat420 mb im dont speak english bro 😅

[@KongWillem]

@@hugobg4057"Im dont"💀💀💀💀​ Nah im just kidding fairy 3rd is honestly pretty crazy, considering he is a coach, and was at the top 5 years ago haha 😅

[@KalebSDay]

@@hugobg4057 you do it better than I speak any other language haha :)

[@markitoss]

The guy defending 1 v 1 vs zen with 10 secs left “Ahh sh**, here we go again”

[@nemzrll]

just checked the 2's mmr as of 3/3/24 at 4:30 pm gmt and Zen is at a 2720 mmr. crazy

[@killslayer1526]

Zen is literally the RLCS version of Max Verstappen in Formula 1.

[@epsi.mp3]

zen verstappen

[@CrackedZac]

Yeah I mean this is always what happens. Whatever team is at the top develops a target on their back and every other team creates teams and strategies specifically to beat that team. It’s no surprise vitality wouldn’t remain at the top for long. Although, as you mentioned most of their losses if not all of them were very close, and I think that the other teams wanted it more as the underdogs, and vitality may have gotten slightly overconfident and comfortable not expecting their opponents to improve so quickly. I think this poor placing has reminded vitality that the world around them is improving and they have to continue to improve as well if they want to stay at the top and I would by no means be surprised to see vitality come back next event and win it/win worlds. On a side note - vitality really raised the bar in Europe and I am SHAKING for NA next worlds.. G2 is the only team who look like they can hold a candle to EU top 5 right now and even then - EU’s top 3 are all at or above G2s level

[@brysonmesser32]

The fact that he wins less mmr and loses more on a lose than any other player makes this so impressive

[@kurosakiichigo7475]

? Thats just how mmr works though

[@brysonmesser32]

@@kurosakiichigo7475 since he’s the highest rated it’s harder for him to gain mmr than any other player

[@brysonmesser32]

@@kurosakiichigo7475 so he gains less mmr than any other player and still smashed the record

[@greatbriton8425]

Basically the higher your MMR vs the opponent the more you lose on a loss, so anyone who climbs will experience exactly the same losses because more and more of their oponnents are below them. The key is to be able to beat those who are at a similar level more often, OR, play more often than them and score tiny MMRs off the weaker players, which is obviously what Zen did: play 2v2s a LOT more than his peers.

[@yurilopes420]

@@kurosakiichigo7475 the fact that this is how mmr works does NOT in any way shape or form remove how impressive it is, that FACTUALLY AND MATHMATICALLY IT'S HARDER FOR HIM TO CLIMB

[@__w__o__w__]

7:08 what was that random willhelm scream?

[@yurilopes420]

ayo what the fuck? i noticed one of those in a random show me and my girl were watching yesterday lmao why would this be in a rocket league youtube video? IS THE CONSPIRACY TRUE? IS JOHNNYBOI PART OF THE REPTILE PEOPLE OF HOLLYWOOD TRYING TO USE SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES TO CONTROL OUR MINDS? IS THIS THE END?!?!?!?!??

[@natefroggy3626]

Bro what volume you on just casually listening to this

[@johnsysays]

3:38 HOLY HELL

[@imvirpil]

15:05 LMFAO thanks for putting this in the video.

[@kushme6931]

This is just wild…. He knows how good he is yet still grinds every single day to become a better version of himself. What a true pro really is.

[@mohamed1608]

3:40 that was a masterpiece

[@JoeyT248]

Zen just trying to be like Hikaru

[@at0micsheep]

That's doing a disservice to Zen tbf. The guy is Magnus

[@JoeyT248]

@@at0micsheep zen is not near Magnus’ level

[@SamMaki]

Someone tell me the colors of Zens Fennec at 6:00 please ty

[@aldozen_rl]

the primary is on the 10th scale the one above the bottom right and on secondery its on the 4th scale the one in the top

[@cuttheloop]

@9:24 Yeah.... not bad 🤣

[@BDMotorsport]

The casual comment had me like 🤨 nutty goal

[@Bloowashere]

9:23 "another decent goal by zen, I'm sure he's happy about it" that's the most nonchalant way of saying it he scored a sick a goal XD

[@MimicalRL]

Just a note. promotion from gc3 to SSL is 1875. Demotion from ssl to gc3 is 1860

[@beanpotatoreviews184]

My dude is just clocking in on his day off and just putting in the work like no other.

[@GregTurismo]

That ending kickoff was hilarious and I want that in my games

[@Hydro-_-]

me being 1700 and this man is ONE THOUSAND mmr higher than me is mind blowing to me

[@hebaabdo2768]

4 pro pros with no boost vs ZEN with unlimited boost would be a great vid

[@kenrobinson1188]

The analogy you used between supersonic and diamond...WOW WOW WOW. That's almost unimaginable to be honest.

[@bryanmurphy242]

5:00 Zen poolshot demo's Alpha xD

[@dicionariodetudo]

ZEN IN OCTANE IS CRAZYY

[@ForceOfNature45]

I actually liked it, especially with the clean BDS decal

[@dicionariodetudo]

@@ForceOfNature45 me too, just really had never, really never, seen him octane

[@Yute01]

​@@dicionariodetudoHe's used Octane quite a bit, unless you've mainly watched RLCS.

[@kyleb7011]

@@ForceOfNature45bds zen 😮

[@joeclifford183]

Did I just see zen get a reset off a redirect first touch 😮

[@Lilsten63]

The frenchie strike again damn that a good and fluid gameplay as always and the salt mine roast vs mawkzy

[@aussquirrel]

The speed alone is crazy!

[@andrep6306]

I wonder how close he can get to the cheated world record (3300mmr if im not wrong)

[@kshitijmalhotra5141]

Wym by cheated World record? Win trading?

[@stillswaggin00]

@@kshitijmalhotra5141yes

[@rammerchandy1712]

@@kshitijmalhotra5141 yep

[@ElsoYZ]

where is the proof that happened?

[@Felix-co]

​@@ElsoYZthey get removed from the game so there's no proof but right now we can see a win trader at the top for 1v1

[@RapidPants]

What is the name of the song that starts at 12:40

[@abdiel_hd]

The song is called TEA AT GUETU by SKYGAZE & Antic Mass

[@RapidPants]

@@abdiel_hd thank you

[@hywell_]

Anyone know the name of the track that started playing in the background at around 12:40?

[@abdiel_hd]

The song is called TEA AT GUETU by SKYGAZE & Antic Mass

[@hywell_]

@@abdiel_hd Thanks!

[@noonecares2965]

@@abdiel_hd ty so much

[@hywell_]

@@abdiel_hd Thanks!

[@lhistoire4314]

He’s lowkey understating how statistically impressive his mmr is considering it definitely follows a bell curve and he’s the largest value and is likely a few SD above mean.

[@kyleb7011]

The fact he probably put over 300 hours in a min amount of days is crazy

[@brett1234-s7f]

Bro is approaching chess levels of rating consistency

[@TheViandeSechee]

When i see FairyPeak and so many non-rlcs players still so competitive in ranked 2v2, i believe this game needs Rlcs 2v2 as much as 3v3 and also 1v1.

[@NghtShadow]

Love the touch of music!

[@Andy-vg7rh]

i remember a couple years ago when sypical broke the record by a fair amount. Everyone said it was unbeatable. crazy!!!

[@MatttKelly]

Theres still a couple days left too

[@AL-di1fo]

So the weird part that I keep coming back to in my head is at a certain point, Zen did not play Rocket League. He was not known three years ago. Now hes top of the world. How do you even do that

[@tanteb]

He's at 2720 like a 100 mmr above Lj's record

[@blitzrc3884]

Not disrespect to LJ zen is doing it on eu

[@themelon7112]

@@blitzrc3884 Which is like 500-600mmr more. NA servers are laughable compared to EU

[@blitzrc3884]

@@themelon7112 ik lol

[@Carras1]

2730 in right now, that means he has 2x the point of Champion 3 div 3 (1365 points) WTF is this 💀

[@RapidPants]

3:05 Speaking of Sypical.... Where did he go? He just suddenly isn't competing anymore? What happened?

[@myaccount8482]

I think he just lost motivation to keep playing. He was one of those players that would get criticised for not putting enough hours so it makes sense.

[@DeJay7]

I wanted make a joke about 2700 being a very, very high elo point in chess as well, but I'm bad at creating jokes (and goal opportunities in RL).

[@i.bayguhl]

acoustic?

[@greenspyke21]

Anybody knows that octane decal's name?

[@xBlze]

Let's just hope he makes LAN with Vitality!!

[@randyrakotinirina5924]

He does

[@LoftyTM]

anyone know the outro song name?

[@noonecares2965]

Please what song is it at the end?

[@RandomPerson-jz2ly]

Tea At Guetu - SKYGAZE

[@jasoniannone9675]

zen pool shot demo on alpha is the play of the game

[@thecorvus100]

Daniel and Beastmode destroyed the world in 2s. And it wasn’t even close.

[@matijastanojevic3407]

The leaderbors is broken, at least at the time of recording. And it's 3 weeks from now that it's broken

[@SmokeySauce]

Meanwhile the actual skill gap (not just MMR numbers) between GC3 and SSL is bigger than bronze to GC1...

[@CartyRL]

doing tricks on it with that title lmfao

[@WulfrumLP]

Sounds like they need a rank above SSL called Zen Rank

[@Zkrn.643]

give this dude until 2025 and this dude will be at 3000

[@Unityrlandmc]

does zen play on pc

[@cajatron]

The issue with being the best team in the world for a season is you have no relative way to work towards beating your opponents while your opponents have a worked style to beat you. They’ll come back, however, Radosin isn’t helping Vitality that much.

[@keyton1928]

Radosin is the easy out for vitality. But his same play style won them a world championship just the season before. Zen has been inconsistent, and alpha has been even more inconsistent. IMO it’s on them two before it’s on radosin. He’s playing the same as before. Maybe the need a change from that play style, but he’s been the most like his former self out of all of them lol

[@Blokekilla]

Johnny rides with his takes forever, no matter how terrible they are

[@QuackQuackQuack]

Seikoo causing almost every goal that game and then saying he carried lol...

[@bjw6073]

the point rating is so broken i had a game where my team mate had the highest mmr in lobby, we won by around 4 goals, other team lost 8 mmr team mate gained 8 and i lost 1... for winning the game took my mmr away for winning and i had the highest score in that game

[@tBeNz0]

MMR is purely based off of wins and losses, not your score during the game. After your placement rounds, you typically gain/lose 8 MMR per match, but there is a multiplier after you win a couple games in a row (so that GCs and above arent sitting in Diamond for a bunch of games.) It could be that your rating updated a couple of games at once or something. Like a wjn and a loss. The rating site is a 3rd party site and so it prob doesnt instantly update all the time.

[@jasoniannone9675]

also, is fabso really good or what?

[@msa016]

graphs and illustrations are ur friend

[@RLclips124]

where are you from jonnyboi

[@carlo6420]

Who is the best player atm and who is the GOAT?

[@F4WD]

he have 1000 mmr more than my peak this season

[@greatbriton8425]

How does Zen play 2v2 on his own?

[@Kintri.]

decal? in the first game

[@dreya154]

Zen thinks he is Hikaru

[@oldschoolgamernl1616]

fairy still got it in 3s also haha played him couple days ago

[@alexisbucciol8737]

bro has hit 2720

[@brnakblut]

we need another rank between champion and gc

[@beanpotatoreviews184]

Jr champ between d and champ

[@icebox1954]

We need a rank in-between Plat and Diamond called Grand Plat.

[@bigmike4923]

Thats crazy😂 He is my mmr above ssl

[@pixelomega3042]

This is incredibly off topic, but I’m surprised that the Renault Group came back to rocket league. I obviously don’t know the circumstances of them no longer sponsoring Vitality. And to be fair, m8s right now are far more successful than the Alpine F1 team.

[@loganthomas7443]

Imagine queing up and you go against Zen & Alpha 😂.

[@thomato2299]

Zen is way too good

[@PhaZeUnleashed]

It doesn’t matter how well he does in ranked, it isn’t reflecting on rlcs.

[@jukesxd]

i just think they lost their confidence and self esteem. this is a game of the mental. you have days where your mental is on top, and you feel like a god. amd you win. then you have days where your mental is low and you feel like garbage. these guys had that godlike feeling, they were destroying everyone. for that, they got mad feeling of mastery, they were feared, respected, basically unstoppable. so they kept winning. then everyone got used to it, stopped fearing them, they also didnt get the feeling of mastery after a while of just winning, so they werent driven by something stupidly much boosting feeling in their brain anymore. so they are now just any other team. this is just like any other game btw

[@lorenzojj0103]

Zen is the Hikaru of rl 😂

[@016_]

Meat to meat Wall to wall

[@anthonyw.5375]

as good as fairy is, i think ferra as a coach was a huge loss for vitality

[@reddleyTV]

Anybody wanna take bets on whether someone (ahem... Zen) breaks 3000 next season?

[@thingsnbits]

I think vitality is just not as consistent. Seems like the focus is not all there. Then again, I mostly blame it on the long off season and the new format (playing against bad teams harms gameplay IMO)

[@Hazzerdude]

Now the record is 2721

[@dnbmania]

Zens at super GM points

[@TreeFPV]

i know SSL players are amazing, but when you watch zen it makes them look like diamonds/champ 1's

[@NatorNoah]

It's nice to see Johnny covering the small wintrading community in Rocket League :). It's about time they get some recognition.

[@GamesJames]

Zens mmr is further from me than I am from 0 mmr lmao. I’m right at 1000 mmr lol so he’s another 1700 ahead of me. I’m basically a noob compared lmao.

[@bearbectar7173]

Being 1k mmr you're a noob nontheless m8. Go play 1s and ballchase and you will rapidly improve trust.

[@GamesJames]

@@bearbectar7173 your not wrong but I only play casual and am just at about 2000 hours. So yes noob but also not noob lol. Comp makes me mad so I just have fun in casual. But have been grinding comp for this seasons rewards and solo q. I suck no excuses.

[@jayypea_rl]

Hes almost 1000mmr higher than me lol dont feel so bad hes nuts😂​@@GamesJames

[@ZarianPalma]

And then we see NA player saying it’s stressful grinding rank because of everything they have going on lol

[@slmmmms]

only if he could "obliterate" in quals

[@DeltaRunner6]

who is here after seeing TRK511 hitting 2746 in 2s this season

[@Aimemes3]

It’s only cause he’s not playing NA talent

[@junebugloco6874]

someone in the future might get 3,000

[@stylszn2805]

actually record is 2721 if u check his peak

[@firsttimegrandpa]

I stopped playing. The Smurfing is outta control.