How Good are Cheap Ebay Gamecube Controller Buttons?

[@zenithSSBM]

Hey guys, to address the comments about my hands moving around while trying to show a comparison of the replacement sticks/buttons vs the original set up-close, I apologize for the inconvenience and difficulty in viewing. I am well aware of this now and it will not be a problem in future videos. For anyone interested, I linked a video of the comparison up-close with no shaking for anyone to see. The link is in the desc. as well as here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYPXoIF6iJaUhac Thank you for the feedback!

[@LightCave02]

Hey, so I bought these buttons and tried them out, but there's some things I noticed. Not all control sticks click throughout since they kind of run up against the bottom-right hand side. Also, the c on the c-sticks are backwards. I don't think I installed them wrong, but just thought I'd let you know about my experience.

[@EnriqueBF96]

I have the same problem with the control stick not clicking. Any tips on how to fix that?

[@BrokeJagerClub]

I had to put some paper into the shaft of the directional stick (not c stick) to raise it up. Once you do that your golden. Feels just like original sticks

[@SweetTodd]

Don't be sorry. They owe you an apology.

[@TheRetroGamerBay]

"i don't know if you guys can see" *VIOLENTLY SHAKES THEM SO YOU CAN'T SEE*

[@jarrettmaltry6305]

Retro laughed out loud like a crazy person

[@mannyheffley5481]

🗿

[@ShinGio]

So here's an update in regards to the z button for everyone watching. You can make it fit by making some incisions and cuts to the trigger. It'll be difficult to describe in text but I'll be making my own video providing a how-to on modifying the trigger to fit a oem shell.

[@zenithSSBM]

cant wait to see it!

[@bert6236]

Looking forward to it!

[@voidvisual]

tbh depending on the set you get i think keeping the Z button the same actually looks cool! but that just me

[@Cajun-Asian]

please do, I'm dying to know how to fit this damn z button in the shell.

[@ShinGio]

Video is up sorry it took so long kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ_Fnn6obbesnJY

[@kssb9050]

As soon as I heard “very very closely resemble their official nintendo counterparts” I was HYPE!!

[@BLEWQ]

Great video but if i may offer some constructive criticism, when doing the top down view of the controller or buttons, try to move your hands less when you talk it makes it a bit harder to look closely or compare two things you're holding. I totally understand the habit but it was a small thing i noticed and i figured id share. Once again great video as usual. Peace :)

[@zenithSSBM]

thanks man! And I appreciate the feedback! yea I noticed that too, makes it hard to see. Will def fix it for all my coming videos though!

[@goldenguy587]

This is exactly a year later, and there’re a ton of eBay listings for theses bottoms for $2 so tell people.

[@Spynex27]

If anyone has any issues with the Control Stick going up against the top shell cause it sits in the controller too low, get a tiny wad of paper and stick it in the hole of the control stick to get it to a height where it doesn't rub against the shell and makes it work better. (Not sure if everyone has that issue but my set did)

[@bloodmarth]

Does this issue give you the rough feeling when rotating your stick? I'm having that issue with my c-stick.

[@jamesnubz]

i know its late but thanks for this man. i just customized two of my old NGCs and that trick with the paper makes them work so well it feels as if they just came out the box christmas morning 2001

[@matthewroman2812]

with the Z-buttons, you can use a nail clipper to chop off one or both of the plastic pegs, then it works fine. I did it last week, it works well.

[@pierrealexandersmith]

Leaving in the original Z button actually looks really cool

[@IBiohazard25I]

Stop shaking the items while talking about it your giving me vertigo lmao

[@He3roX13]

Great video always love how in depth the videos are and how you pretty much always answer the questions I might have. Hope to see more soon!

[@mistamac6509]

i will say i enjoy very much your body language with hands while talking, it feels more engaging and not recorded over, though sometimes the shaking can be a little distracting. great vids!

[@slumdank8817]

Im glad i watched this video, ive been using these buttons and control sticks on my two controllers with a few modifications and haven't had any problems and prefer them to stock with the advantage of color choice, for 2 bucks this is amazing

[@zenithSSBM]

thanks man! and Im glad to hear you like them!

[@sauzeefy]

worth it just for the C-stick. nobody sells c-sticks

[@troysntiago]

SAUZ - ソウザ pinkcadi customs does

[@yellow_id]

SAUZ - ソウザ - lol. Same. I thought the same thing. All I want is a c stick

[@skimmilk2774]

and the main greystick too

[@pearlywhites3025]

Thanks for this, I've been wondering about these. I had two joysticks that lost the rubber caps, so 4 bucks to replace those and get some buttons is pretty good to me.

[@johzho123]

Stop shaking your hands when showing parts lol

[@WhoMightThis1Be]

Be careful with sticks, i ordered a lot of similar products and i found there is a much too high chance that sticks come with 1 of 2 flaws 1: the hole on the bottom is too deep so they actually get too low and the rubber part might touch you shell if you hold it into a direction, you can fix that by putting something like a small piece of aluminium foil into the hole 2: the sticks are just too short, not really away of fixing that they just suck. Generally i found the rubber doesn't last as logn as original sticks but it seems like not everyone had that problem. Z buttons always suck sadly

[@SwagMaster824]

I just picked up a set of these cheap buttons in the red see-through color and I'm so excited to put them in my controller 😁

[@racerX5100]

im soooo happy ur back with the vids

[@ADayInTheLab]

I just purchased some of these Chinese buttons before watching this video, I'm so glad I watched this, it reinforced my confidence in the purchase. Your channel needs more attention.

[@PenjaminFitness]

Will you do an update video on the controller buying guide? I feel like since its almost a later and prices have almost doubled we should see if there's any new tips or what to look for now a days

[@genericfirstnamegenericlas6490]

You can also get them on amazon, and they have more color selection.

[@zenithSSBM]

wow thats cool I dont believe that existed at the time of this video! I think its one of the Ebay sellers just creating a listing on Amazon though

[@freshminht_]

Battlebeaver actually sells these exact buttons on their website. Just google battlebeaver 3rd party buttons. I just ordered a set of transparent orange and they feel and look really good.

[@xein6482]

I order'd a GC Controller today to get into melee and watched your videos right after and saw this vid. Instantly order'd some buttons 😂

[@zenithSSBM]

Sick! Hope you enjoy them dude!

[@willneu97]

I excitedly bought these last week, saw this video and had a heart attack. Glad that they seem to be worth it

[@zenithSSBM]

how do you like it?

[@willneu97]

The black ones just came in the mail. Z-button doesn't fit (as I expected thanks to your video!) but also the sticks did not fit onto the board itself, looks like the slots are too small. Any recommendations? Thanks for all your videos, I've just recently got into collecting gamecube controllers and making custom ones, your videos have been very very helpful

[@demonic847]

don't forget to mention that you have to put a small piece of paper or something in the control stick hole to make raise it a little or it will get caught on the shell and limit your movement

[@jojorobino5312]

I bought a red button set from a seller on ebay. The control stick is quite nice.

[@kinolangley8937]

hey man! its really good to see you back on the helm of content. ive been waiting for someone to officially review these buttons. ive had several sets and they're all good. i should use this as an opportunity to say, just for whoever doesnt know, that the seller multishine designs is known for reselling these button sets, so it's good to see people like you pointing people in the right direction. can i ask if youre also in the custom gamecube controller discord? it has such a wealth of information for anybody who wants to know this stuff like i did thank you man, keep up the good content

[@kinolangley8937]

i should rephrase what i said. MSD resells these buttons for 10 bucks, with their sticks separate at another 10 bucks. so thats about 20 bucks for what they cost at normal prices.

[@zenithSSBM]

yo! thanks for the kind words and I am in the discord youre right theres so much information there I love it. Also that messed up like they just completely resell the buttons at an inflated price?

[@kinolangley8937]

yeah, right now the site he has says "resin cast buttons will be up in late may", but its mainly that he doesnt make the buttons at all. theyre often called alibaba buttons because theyre often gotten from chinese sellers from the site aliexpress, which im assuming was once called alibaba. many people such as kadano or others have ordered their sets in bulk from there with sticks included for customization purposes such as like what you and others have done. you can tell theyre 1:1 just these button sets as theyre just as flat all around.

[@RBtheMad]

so idk if the quality control on these things are just wack but my experience with these buttons are nowhere near the praise i keep seeing here. my analog triggers could not register analog inputs, making l cancelling and light shielding impossible or more difficult. the analog stick was too short, and ended up rubbing against the gates of the controller (also, was a BITCH to take off of the stick box. be careful, because they are extremely hard to pull off.) the C-stick ends up getting stuck in certain positions which clearly is unacceptable. the Z Button still won't fit but that's just consistent with every order. All of the face buttons on the other hand work perfectly, and i use them for my controller. the D pad is a little mushy (it's a gamecube d pad though so who really cares) and the start button also feels somewhat strange, but is perfectly fine. Basically only half of the buttons sent to me are actually usable. This is just a warning to everyone else who decided to order a pair of these based on this video, be careful with these buttons because they may not be as functional as they seem. just make sure whoever you buy it from is selling them for extremely cheap so you aren't losing much.

[@indigo5577]

Thx for the heads-up

[@dravise2586]

the trigger springs need to be adjusted to fit correctly or they would be damage or break the triggers.

[@pedroroman8989]

Great video man. I'm getting more into customizing my controls now. I had the same issue with my z button from an eBay seller. I use other sellers also I dunno if you're cool with me sharing them on here I can post another comment if it's ok. I don't mind the flatter buttons honestly I didn't even notice it till you pointed it out.

[@macctay5183]

I really wish there was a tall domed thumbstick I put a tall domed scuf stick on a switch controller and had way more control with small adjustments and movement it also flicked and was just as fast or faster for sprinting and dancing but the tall stick allows precision small movement and easier tilt control.

[@josedeleon8501]

Do the control sticks have rubber on top or are they just plastic?

[@soncscoot9929]

I'm very late, but they have rubber on them

[@kinspower]

I'm even later but the sticks are the same quality as the original sticks

[@Sacren365]

I’m even later with, thanks I was wondering about that too.

[@Happypandabacon]

Mute city customs hasn’t had a shop open for like a year now

[@idcdammit]

they are no longer in business

[@corpJJ]

Ooooh great video. I actually just bought a couple sets of these buttons to see how they are.

[@zenithSSBM]

Thanks man!! Let me know what you think, are you planning on making a video for them?

[@stepanremes987]

"You can't mess those up" Nintendo in 2001: allow us to introduce ourselves

[@kssb9050]

OMG RUTGERS HAS E-SPORTS!! Thats sooo crazy!

[@zenithSSBM]

we do! gonna bring out a lot of great content in the future!

[@erick1261]

just got the controller parts and id have to say it looks and feels nice the Z button not fitting was a bummer but im sure i could sand down some of the sides and get the damn button to fit. the analog stick definatly does feel wierd but i got used to it. thanks for this video i now have extra parts for my controller.

[@zenithSSBM]

thanks man! let me know how the sanding works!

[@erick1261]

zenith SSBM will I will for sure try to remember to tell you how the sanding goes.

[@xanderdragonmoore]

Fellow Controller Modder: Hello there to anyone who has these cheap Chinese buttons, There are fixes to these castings. The Z Button all you gotta do is use flush cutters and snip off the long peg and make a small slope from the bottom so it works normal. For the Analog stick put a small piece of hot glue and it will not rub up on the edge of the controller shell.

[@juneru2]

i didnt notice he was shaking his hands so much until everyone in the comments mentioned it lol.

[@elchocu2343]

I'm having troubles finding a seller which ships to Spain, anyone knows anyone?

[@onassisjavierdiazestrada3767]

You only need to cut the little sticks on the z button and its going to work perfectly

[@misterzix]

Do you have the metal part on the Z trigger when you received them ? Or did you added it yourself ? The sets I received came from the same manufacturer obviously but it hasn't the metal part...

[@Legend0fBarry]

I bought a red set just about 7 months ago, though they were way more expensive, but i can tell they are the exact same because of the Z button hahaha. The only gripe i have with these is the rubber used on the sticks, they feel great for 2 weeks, then they start to peel away. Not right away, but over like 3 months the rubber started to rub off like red dust, kinda weird tbh. I ended up swapping back to the original grey stock stick. I would still recommend for the buttons and triggers though :D

[@zenithSSBM]

interesting, I am using the black set on one of my controllers and i have not experienced the rub off. although i use that controller for playing old gamecube games - not melee so not dashdancing or moving around all the time definitely factors into that!

[@armandarcamo28]

So these are only for tall button pads? (Smash 4 controllers and etc)

[@LightCave02]

glad to see you back at it my dude

[@LightCave02]

also, what about the difference between tall and short buttons? does that matter?

[@zenithSSBM]

depends on what height of button pad you have. (short pad+short buttons will be too loose and tall pad+tall buttons will be too tight) the buttons on Battle Beaver's site gives a more lengthy explanation but unless its a super old controller it probably has a tall button pad and needs short buttons!

[@LightCave02]

zenith SSBM are the buttons from China short or tall buttons?

[@zenithSSBM]

short so they will work with tall buttons pads (which basically every controller has)

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

Dope I just bought a bunch of sets to do a few controllers.

[@SoaresSteve]

Are the analog sticks similar to OEM. I'm tired of having to buy a new controller just for the analog stick!

[@minty-bird8663]

This was *Just* what I needed, thanks man! :D

[@theshizlet1]

My z button didn't fit either. Not only that, my c stick would grind against the shell, and the a button is super wiggly. And I ordered a white button set

[@josuecastro2813]

Great video!, That clear front shell is an original or you bought it?, I want a shell for a wavebird since mine is pretty scratched and it's missing the batteries holder piece, so i need one.

[@zenithSSBM]

Thanks! That was an original clear shell! also though be careful - wavebird shells are going to be different than shells of wired gccs

[@MrNice089]

can you do a video going over the replacements for the component that the gamecube reads the joystick inputs from? I own multiple gamecube controllers with loose sticks and I am hoping I can put those controllers to good use

[@zenithSSBM]

I plan on doing so when I learn more about them. I have the summer ahead of me and that is on the list!

[@MrNice089]

ok thanks!

[@Pblake412]

Not sure if you have reviewed multi shine design or have heard about how good those sticks are. What do you think about their sticks?

[@zenithSSBM]

from what Ive heard they are the same as the ones shown in the video. I have not personally been able to confirm this though

[@lebrandy5186]

Where can i find that clear shell? 6:57

[@zenithSSBM]

they were released a looooong time ago. only place really now is buying used clear controllers on ebay

[@EyYoMrWhite]

Can you please link where you bought the counterpart buttons that worked amazing?

[@93BossRoss]

Damn it. I started making my own custom buttons a few months ago. I made a shit ton of them and have been planning on putting them online, but looks like that will be a waste now :(

[@genericfirstnamegenericlas6490]

I'm wondering if you could dye the white buttons?

[@PyroSSBM]

So I ordered these, and my C stick came out Upside down, like the rubber C was upside down, i had to force the C stick the correct way because of how OCD it would make me. Anyone else have that problem? or perhaps it was the person i bought it from, everything else was just like in the video

[@zenithSSBM]

the c stick came molded upside down?

[@PyroSSBM]

zenith SSBM yes, its so odd!

[@alexcorreia1814]

I had this problem, as well as the Y button being molded incorrectly and the control stick was mushy and didn’t click at all

[@benjaminrhee5556]

Yep, this happened to me too. When I put the C-stick on upside down anyway because I didn't care, it would also rub against the inside of the shell and literally not be able to snap back to center because it was too tight against the shell. I had to put on a normal C stick.

[@refraggedbean]

I now want to make a full white controller, just pure white, not even with a logo

[@josephyohanis]

The c-stick wears away quickly, I' ve only had my button set for 3 days and the c-stick is already showing some wear.

[@2yechan]

If you remove the plastic nubs and sand down the hinge it fits

[@alyj8606]

Does the cstick have yellow underneath like some bad custom c sticks

[@zenithSSBM]

Nope! Its not painted over

[@bdown_hbunz]

So are those buttons the long buttons for older gamecube controllers?

[@JBomb692]

I have a set of these and I got 2 x-buttons, no y-button, and my c-stick gets stuck sometimes. I kept the x and y buttons in with the red a and b and it actually looks good so I’ll ignore that, but is there any way for me to fix the stick?

[@grillscout7815]

That green screen though 👌🏼👌🏼

[@oAlexanderXavior]

You can sand down the Z button to fit it perfectly, and without anyone seeing the sand marks!

[@oAlexanderXavior]

Also, but a tiny bead in the movement joystick to prevent it from clicking down, and LIGHTLY sand the LR buttons, and cut them a but from underneath, to perfectly get them to work.

[@piddlingpick5964]

My new Smash 5 controller was dropped on the ground multiple times, and the triggers are now making a very audible springy sound. What is causing this and how would I fix it?

[@peelmyskin]

Does the third party GameCube part kit on battle beaver customs tall or short buttons

[@y33sean]

Where can you find trigger springs? In my official gcc that was released for smash 4, my R button is starting to get stuck and I have to use my original gcc which I find slightly weird. I could just buy a $10 Cirka controller and take its springs, but I'm sure there is a cheaper alternative out there

[@kinolangley8937]

Kizuna SSB if this is an issue id recommend taking the back off your old gcc with a triwing (theyre very cheap. on amazon u can get a set of 5 for like 3 bucks) and hooking it to your sm4sh motherboard and front. itll probably look slick as hell too by doing such! or if you like the full shell, take the springs out of your old controller and replace them from your old sm4sh back. that just needs a phillips head

[@Optimistical]

Do you know if it is safe to spray paint the buttons? I’ve been looking for a brown button set everywhere, and I haven’t any. I was considering on Spray Painting them, but as a smash player, I don’t to ruin the feel of my gamecube controller.

[@soridosuneku]

I stumbled on this from my suggested vids list and I’m curious about the shoulder buttons: Is there a part or parts that make them less mushy?

[@bandeyawx9709]

I'm guessing you tested all of the button sets and they came out to similar results (nonfitting z-button, flatter overall) even though they were from different sellers? I'd assume so, but if not it would have been good to clarify or link to specific manufacturers so you don't end up stumbling upon a seller with shitty sticks or something.

[@Adamsnadler214]

What is the best set of buttons and sticks you recommend, I’m new to this and I only want to modify for usability and the paracord cables

[@zenithSSBM]

(For the absolute best) replacement buttons I like Battle Beaver. They are also used by many pro smash players. For sticks, there are decent options but the best is really finding an official controller and switching out the sticks if you like the originals. The other replacements are GOOD but if youre like me and are used to originals, none feel exactly like them. (I recommend looking for broken cheap official controllers listed "for parts."

[@lepyrolink182]

Hey, so what are the most expensive and best quality third party buttons out there?

[@water_king1]

You can try battle beaver customs, they have buttons that are around $20

[@voidvisual]

tbh I hope they add more colours. I'm likely going to grab some of these.

[@bert6236]

Can't find the pink buttons by searching for "gamecube controller buttons" for some reason. Mind telling me the american sellers name on ebay?

[@RBtheMad]

so wait are these tall buttons or short buttons? i was a little confused at how you clarified it. you say it'll basically work with everything so should i not even worry about it?

[@Ringating]

he said they work with the newer controllers, so they should be short buttons

[@zenithSSBM]

most buttons you will see are short buttons. there is a height difference between buttons produced for controllers with tall button pads and short button pads. (tall pad->short button/short pad->tall button) generally the controllers with tall buttons and short button pads are really old controllers though (all 'new' smash 4 and smash ultimate era gamecube controllers have short buttons and tall pads) so unless youre working with really old controllers you prob have short buttons. Battle Beaver's site explains this out more if my description isnt making sense. However I would advise to always open your controller and confirm what pad and buttons you have (its easy to tell by the pad the controller has) before buying anything)

[@LocoDz]

If I were to used a fake cheap GameCube controller and replace the button to the custom ones, will it make the controller more accurate like the Official?

[@spicytacos_08]

okay so idk if that happened to anyone else, but i ordered those cheap buttons from china but when i play they make some kind of white powder. (especially the joysticks) I think they might not be sturdy enough for actual use. (i only used them once)

[@floral2970]

I wonder why it is that these sticks don't feel mushy like the replacement ones meant to look like the originals

[@FrogRecon]

Where can you get a set of premium buttons that don't wiggle around

[@aaronphillip3056]

Do you know where I can find a clear complete controller shell? I want to pair it up with some of those buttons!

[@ThatLegitBeast]

ebay

[@drowsemary]

I have a spare controller I use as a backup and might try these

[@kdotkira-2156]

"As you can see these buttons are much flatter": *shakes the buttons violently so we can't tell the difference without pausing*

[@sorrymybadxd]

To anyone still interested in these buttons, I have to recommend against them now after having them for a few months. In addition to the Z-button being messed up, the thumbstick is cheap and sheds plastic shavings after each session of tech practice. The L and Y buttons are also sculpted badly and grind against your controller shell. I've purchased several sets and all of them have had similar problems. Link to some pics I took of the problems: imgur.com/a/aosxW3o If you're handy at sanding plastic or you just don't care, then you're free to do whatever you want. tl;dr you pay for what you get and these are cheap af

[@zenithSSBM]

Thats interesting, the sticks I have on my controller doesnt shed like yours did. Neither did the buttons. I do agree the triggers felt a little rough but actually smoothed out over time. Perhaps there are multiple manufacturers of these? Although it could very well be a result of poor quality control which is more than believable

[@MarkAngelbuer]

@@zenithSSBM Are the Buttons still holding up for you a year and a half later?

[@calebmacasaet8033]

Where did u get ur fire emblem decal

[@sirwaddlesway7865]

Can we get a link, please? I am trying to find the officials sticks to replace my sticks

[@pepisesportsdevirl2295]

R.I.P. Mute City Customs

[@Shakakandh]

Bought 5 sets, all transparent colors, from AliExpress for $15 total!

[@Bidizzle]

Just bought a white set. Thinking it would be a nice touch for the ultimate controller

[@JoonTheKim]

What are trigger braces and trigger plugs for?

[@zenithSSBM]

Shorten the distance your trigger has to press down to go from "neutral position" to "full press" in Melee

[@zenithSSBM]

^above is for trigger plugs. Trigger braces keep your trigger aligned so it moves straight down when you press on it. however gcc modders have come out saying it does not help much with that. I just still use them anyway

[@TisMeBc]

another great vid man, thank you

[@Marvin_Hermann]

are those tall or short buttons?

[@eliseovazquezrojas5233]

they are short buttons

[@badcatalex]

What if I have the Short button pads?

[@bryangray9279]

How long do these take to get to the states?

[@wjc0322]

Is there a place you can just buy the controller shell at?

[@zenithSSBM]

As far as I know, no. Not really too many shell shops, and places that do sell them charge a lot it seems (ill look into this more)

[@wjc0322]

zenith SSBM I had a dog chew up one of mine so I'm trying to dabble in it. the boards still good so might as well try lol thanks btw :)

[@lloydbartolome5069]

Do these work on the new game cube controllers for smash ultimate?

[@trumpeter811]

I just bought some and mostly they did. The C stick and Z button didnt. That could just be from the person I got it from. But everything else worked on the new smash controllers

[@wishesandbennett2372]

Are the joysticks hard or rubbery like real nintendo.

[@coolguy02536]

You really do have to be careful with Ebay and GC controllers. For such a good controller, it's amazing how many you'll go through, new or used, that are faulty, or become faulty very quickly. Of the 4 or so purchased controllers I went through upon needing a new one, one was a generic 3rd party factory that was not only faulty, but glued together along with the screws to prevent people from trying to open it up and solve the issue...cryptic. While there have been some impressive 1st party controllers like Madcatz ,they always ended up with some buttons (ie A and Z) not properly working or getting stuck after not that long of a lifespan. Sadly it's just not something meant to last forever.

[@zenithSSBM]

Madcatz controllers are third party, I recommend only going with Nintendo controllers

[@coolguy02536]

I had to do the same, and I see most people do too. I might have them mixed up with something else. It's been a long time and my memories aren't there.

[@mipps_]

How long has the shipping been for everyone else,I ordered on the second of July and I'm still waiting

[@zenithSSBM]

That sucks to hear man :( what seller did u get it from? Mine came in like a little over 1 week

[@mipps_]

zenith SSBM someone called motortradeonline and it was the white+blue 2 pack