Zenless Zone Zero devs listened!?

[@Skycrowliu]

I just take a nap when ever I don't wanna switch during a chain attack.

[@ayramyoui]

Same dude, same

[@aidanjackson5084]

Only to then get pestered by the character for missing said Chain Attack switch. Though in the words of Ellen, "You daydreaming too?"

[@sparhawk2195]

Or stop being idiots, use the chain attack and swap back to the character you want. Weird the game gives you tools to do that.

[@JordanII.]

​@@sparhawk2195 this will get rid of buffs, so fuck no

[@Gheniel_]

​@@sparhawk2195 oh you mean we need to use kara cancel and then swapback swapback? 😮

[@AJ_._._]

glad that the zzz devs are closer to star rail devs than genshin

[@ThomasAndy-qu8dp]

excellent news for sure, i'm not planning to go on that game for now (wuwa and my steam library is enough) but it's great to hear this isn't another genshin devs crapshow.

[@alvinlee7710]

I had a feeling that they want to shift their players focus from genshin to HSR and now to ZZZ, like telling us not to get too close to genshin, as genshin is our first big project, there sre some games that have better graphics and gameplay. Remember that genshin is immensely popular due to lockdown and some ppl are just happy to stay there and hoyo likely wants us to move on to their other better games.

[@komLA_BHD]

​@@alvinlee7710would you guys give up the lockdown arguments? It's 2024, if ppl still play it then they probably still like it

[@alvinlee7710]

@@komLA_BHD bruh chill out, this is just an assumption. Im not saying genshin is losing players at a fast pace. Ppl still playing it and i still play it since 1.0. The fact that genshin has many players that time is really due to lockdown is true, where there aren’t many really good gacha games that time. Everyone including those are not familiar with gacha all flock there during that time.

[@komLA_BHD]

@@alvinlee7710 and I'm saying it's 2024. Using lockdown as an excuse is way too old. Genshin introduced a bunch of its new fans to gacha. And yet still has a huge playerbase in 2024. Lockdown has nothing to do with the popularity nowadays, especially when for older players there's not really any innovative stuff in it

[@pauljerome01]

They should have added more polychrome for completing the TV section of the story.

[@boothenoob5386]

Honestly they should maybe more debuffs more rewards

[@Low-Income-House]

@@boothenoob5386 I’m reporting you for spreading hate 😤😭

[@paladincomics]

getting feedback this soon that addresses things we wanted fixed/added is a good sign, I hope this can continue, Genshin also has a ton of untapped potential that will remain this way because giving feedback to the devs does nothing

[@deltaxvs]

Even though a lot of the things are plan for abit later the FACT its plan to happen and is being worked on is so good to hear. This is why I honestly do got high hopes for this game. Also I LOVE rally man

[@Why_AreYou]

Nahh bro majority of major things are scheduled for next patch, it's UI and other things that are scheduled for later patches. Honestly I didn't joined the game cause it had too many drawbacks, but i might join now cause I really like the kit design of characters this game, but if there's no combat then what good does kit do, right..

[@itisventus]

the manual chain attack alone may fix most of my issues with combat feeling extremely automated and cyclical, I see that as a win for those of us who wanted more expression during the combat segments now the thing is just hoping that hyv doesn't lock any cool new combat mechanics to limited chars and forcing even more FOMO, but that's never gonna really happen, it's a gacha game and a gacha company after all...

[@formul8r10101]

What kinda cool combat mechanics are you looking for?

[@No-Ink]

Itll allow for better rotations too.

[@itisventus]

​@@formul8r10101 my main wish is to have someone that's able to do some midair combos to air juggle enemies for enough to chain between grounded and aerial combos other than that, I'd also love to see more characters with pause or hold combos, air launchers, CC-grouping options and teamwork attacks, as we only have a select few characters that really benefit from them

[@imjustlikedenji5954]

Do you know who HAD manual chain attacks??? Wuthering Waves lol. They are going in the right direction doing that, cause the fights DID feel very "on the rails". This will add some strategic element to using the chain attacks, do you want to build them up or go ham? Do you want to use them up or make use of the buffs on your main?

[@Kyroliger]

Funnily enough people who complain about chain attacks are button mashers. There’s a way to not activate the chain if you simply don’t perform that last hit in an attack. You can cancel is via dodging or switching right before the last hit lands. This change encourages button mashing and people will just keep harping on how button mashy ZZZ is.

[@eatsomeice179]

It's seems like the only Devs that doesn't listen is GI Devs. Good job Sleeper (ZZZ) Devs

[@Sable813]

Genshin has actually had a ton of quality of life inprovements lately and 5.0 is bringing modeled resin to Genshin from HSR according to leaks.

[@jellythewomanconsumer1590]

​@@Sable813heard its even better because you select up to two substats as well as the main stat. There is probably a catch though

[@miraqen7801]

@@Sable813 took them long enough. years long...

[@Sable813]

@@jellythewomanconsumer1590 if you can choose 1 or 2 substats that would be insane. I'm guessing it's gonna be a super rare item that is only avaliable in the paid battle pass though. That or it can't be used on new artifacts, only strongbox ones.

[@MostSaneBuddy]

​@@Sable813from the leaks so far you can get it from paid pass, every 10 levels of the sigil offering in natlan and you can craft 1 by scarificing a lot of artifacts and there a chance for it to also be a reward for major events in every patch like crowns

[@blueraine21]

Genshin could never... even after almost 4 years

[@kiuhh1118]

Sure buddy. Genshin adding self modeling resin with ability to pick main stat and 2 substats while other hoyo games still stuck with only main stat selector

[@gamerbeast3616]

Genshin devs lisen to lol

[@kiuhh1118]

@@palientologist , "nobody cares" youre a nobody, a droplet in the ocean, get off your high horse and realize your bitter experience with the game doesn't correlate with the opinion amongst many.

[@supernieva2419]

​@@palientologist Players still care thats why genshin still got more players than other gacha

[@genshinF2Play]

the only reason they listened on ZZZ is because the sales are bad. Genshin generates so much income, unless ya'll stop spending on that game, they will never listen. (they are losing to WUWA) also its unpopular in china compared to other games in that genre.

[@Gaeul-j3j]

HSR devs listening 💤 devs listening When will genshit devs listen ?

[@Hasieur]

when genshin devs listen it is the end of world

[@kiuhh1118]

What do you want though lol. The amount of qol ever since 4.0 has been very nice and 5.0 is looking like the biggest qol/feature update since release as well. If you're still expecting hard combat then switch games, clearly not the focus of the game.

[@ymw1107]

Never, bcuz regardless of what they do, the game is still bringing in them money, that game is just too popular to fail unfortunately

[@TerraTheWise]

Thing is they have been making many improvements. People just like to hate and because they’ve gone so long being stubborn it won’t even matter at this point.

[@BlazeSwigglePlayzMc]

@@kiuhh1118 Yeah but thats qol that took'em 4 years to add, a lot of that stuff has been suggested and asked for since the 1.0 days and even them some of the qolfeatures that were "cough cough loadouts" are half baked and not even what the community initially asked for.

[@Proxylamborg]

LET THEM COOK

[@LUCAS420BLZ]

I wonder what people are gonna think of the Idol Trio being added in the future, it'll be hilarious

[@PlangPlangers]

​@@LUCAS420BLZthey'll probably go mad like "Why are there more loli characters?!?!"

[@Aiden-iy9du]

@@LUCAS420BLZ Tectone will cry

[@JohnWolf926]

@@PlangPlangerswait they’re adding more lolis?

[@PlangPlangers]

@@JohnWolf926 yes and no, the idol faction have 3 characters according to their official bilibil post. And they're the same character model as Koleda, Piper, and Lucy. One of em is a fully robot too, don't know about the other 2. There are also 2 upcoming mommy characters, Caesar (from Biker faction) and Jane Doe (from PubSec faction)

[@liquid_cheese9930]

5:24 it means when you didn't 100% the TV map you don't have to redo it, you will just get your missing rewards over time passively

[@s.t3602]

I heard of them changing it but I liked the TV stages, as its like a maze but would be cool if it was fatser buuuttt i like what they are changing it to as itll be like mini map

[@Radiant450]

My issue with TVs is it still feels quite slow, especially in some missions where there is tons of unskippable dialogue, I get it in main story missions which majority care for, but other random ones? Not really.

[@yvindvego9404]

the tv system will still be used a lot in side commissions probably.

[@MoonlessNight32]

I actually like the t.v modes as well. Just not during the story mode.

[@Masfugo]

imo the TV isnt really that problem it's just the animation took way too long for everything

[@Borovski213]

Yet another genshin could never moment

[@UnivErsum321]

Doesnt matter same company tho

[@atheon-]

​​@@UnivErsum321, it does matter lol, it matters more, why one is clearly neglected while the other ones are this way?

[@ImproperStandby]

Meanwhile Genshin is in the corner asking for treats.

[@unclutched5702]

@@UnivErsum321 dosent matter if its the same company, there are different teams for each game and lets just say genshin has the worst team

[@kacper0563]

You should check out the leaks for 5.0, they're implementing a lot of the stuff from hsr and other similar games, and making a bunch of them even better. For example they're adding the modeling resin (artifact stat manipulation thing), and making it even better by allowing you to select the substats.

[@kreftl]

I won't get my hopes up yet until I see how they implement the changes. They made many promises back in cbt too but the barely made any changes.

[@blueraine21]

I mean, at least they recognized the problems and even replied which might be the 1st time hoyo actually do,.. Keyword here is *RECOGNIZED the problem* and *REPLIED* which made me question my sanity if hoyo devs actually did this or just fake news.. This is like night and day compared to genshin devs who pretend the problems dont even exists and just glaze over them..

[@By-Izy]

​@@blueraine21 at this point im just gonna see how hoyo implementation becomes rather start hyping myself right after news like this, i really dont have high hopes from hoyo after 4 years of genshin

[@Getsuga_Tenshou2025]

​@@By-Izybuddy ur mind us stuck on genshin, the same hoyoverse actually bringing qol changes every patch in hsr... I mean every patch 2-3 qol changes comes Also in gi because of wuwa, they are bringing qol changes too

[@MyNameIsIisan]

You mind letting us know what those empty promises were? Or is this just spreading misinformation bc you feel goofy?

[@thornszk]

I mean, that is still way better than wuwa promising to increase the tacet field drop in 1.1. Where now?

[@justinjamin]

5:20 "Fairy Assistance", basically: If you completed a commission, but did not collect all of the chests, you would normally have to replay the commission to get all of them. "Fairy Assistance" means after you progress more, those rewards can automatically be collected by Fairy.

[@Railegh]

1:20 THANK F*CKING GOD

[@ElatedSphee]

I dunno, that's probably gonna be more of "implemented less" since there's people out there who enjoy the TV system too.

[@Mini5hrek]

@@ElatedSphee majority don't like it, it's super annoying imo as well.

[@PlangPlangers]

​@@ElatedSpheeyeah, and it's the thing that differentiate zzz. If they remove it, then this game is just gonna be Hi3rd 3.0, at least revamp it into something less confusing

[@danudarmanto]

for hollow zero it's fine to still use tv, but for main story it's really killing the vibe. so thank god they listened

[@via_kole]

I love the TV system I think it's very fun and different. Hope they don't get rid of it entirely.

[@LUCAS420BLZ]

I remember genshin had a road map for 1.0 Where did the years go by..

[@PlangPlangers]

Wait wut??? A road map? Pls elaborate

[@Yesteayum]

What were the contents of the road map?

[@JohnWolf926]

@@Yesteayumpreview of the game storyline from start to finish and general plot and teasers for each region and some characters dilic and monstat, liyue and ning, inazuma and ayaka, sumeru and cyno, fontaine Lynne and lynette, natlan and the small skull head kid, snezhnaya and the fatui guy, khaenriah and dains etc

[@JohnWolf926]

Was released at the start of the game called teyvat chapter storyline preview

[@fernandomeza4848]

It was a ten year road map and I remember the community not liking it.

[@skellyglob]

I literally couldnt get into ZZZ because of id have griped with a lot of stuff. The devs nearly fixed everything i had issues with so looks like ima give it another shot.

[@member.5290]

omg, just dont play, the whole mount almost past. Let people have fun. If you wanna sweat your ass play wuwa or something else

[@ashseacrest]

@@member.5290when did he say that he wanted to sweat his ass off 😂 zero comprehension skills

[@aliceevangeline6146]

@@ashseacrest How dare he don't like my favorite game and let other people know about its flaw

[@TerraTheWise]

Nah stay gone bro. Game was good even before these updates. Don’t come back now.

[@ShineDair]

@@TerraTheWise Clearly even the devs disagree with you considering they acknowledged people's feedback and are making changes to the game. Stop being a shill. Criticism is good for improvement.

[@seliland]

i like the tv sections when its actually a puzzle and not just meandering between battles

[@knection1986]

Glad they are working on it. I couldn't even make it to endgame because I got burnt out on the endless (what it felt like to me) amount of tv missions.

[@suwooshi]

I genuinely hope they won’t remove the TV system completely. It's the one thing that made this game unique & believe it or not, some people actually like it.

[@27Ganon]

Yeah if they completely drop the TVs and turn the gameplay into HI3, I'm probably quitting the game

[@kapeecoffee]

Drop the TV in story content but they can keep it in puzzle modes. Idk how many times the TV just broke my immersion doing story

[@nerio1227]

I doubt they will since they are improving it further in later updates. I just hope it will be smoother. It was so hard for me to go through that.

[@27Ganon]

@@kapeecoffee even in story missions, I don't see how replacing TVs with HI3 like missions is any better? You're still not "seeing" the story happen outside of cutscenes and the time between story events and dialogue is probably longer.

[@kapeecoffee]

@@27Ganon nah like me and most players agree that the TV mode during story is a drag and is hella boring

[@CGT37]

What I assume “Fairy assistance” will be is for any loot you leave in the TV fields and don’t feel like diving back in for, you’ll probably be able to have Fairy just collect that crap after the game is sure you won’t do it yourself.

[@AshishRawat-po7kk]

Here before ZZZ becomes another open world game.

[@MyNameIsIisan]

Lmao true. This just seems like they’re pandering to the open world brainrot

[@cyriotic3]

imo with the aesthetic and all i think it'll be great if this actually happens

[@treestump17]

God i fucking hope not, let it be its own thing, we've got enough of those.

[@towermice]

yessss please give me more massive empty worlds

[@heppelhopv2]

People asking for this don't know what they're saying 😭

[@beestek.94]

Hopefully, this will be implemented and not just another dev plans. Genshin devs really tarnished Hoyoverse's reputation for a lot of players, ngl.

[@Nozaraki]

Lmao "listen" if they actually cared to listen they would have done that when beta phase players let them know how much they hate the tv but they think they know better

[@LUCAS420BLZ]

They were forced to listen, CN was massively angry with hoyo about barely any feedback being taken into consideration A year and a half of beta, no massive changes beyond UI and censoring

[@ashseacrest]

Right 😂 idk why everybody is so happy about stuff we shouldve got over a month ago

[@Aeris_Asano]

I just uninstalled yesterday because of the TVs. we’ll see if they can turn it around tho

[@Niddy_Gritty]

Same!! 😅

[@Pequod_LZ]

i highly doubt they'll drastically change the TVs. It looks like something they heavily invested in with all the animations it has

[@MrJoseeclipse123]

Nice me two unistalled the first day because tv sistem

[@gamerbeast3616]

Stop complaining about the tv system

[@i_lunarr]

​@@Pequod_LZ I'm hoping they don't

[@dragonwaz]

The game has Story missions(yellow), Exploration missions(blue), and Combat missions(red). If you've played the game you've done these. Story is story obviously, Exploration is the tv side missions. Combat is the missions that just had combat. It sounds like they'll be adding a baby mode where if you beat the mission but didn't get an S buy doing a good enough job or by getting the three Hollow Observation Data's you can just ask Fairy to complete the mission and it'll hand over the S rank rewards you didn't get.

[@MuhammadBetam]

every new change sounds great and i'm really happy a lot of better things are coming to improve the game! but i would love if they also mentioned anything about co-op or multiplayer as well i would love to have a co-op mode to help my friends in exploration and harder combat missions!

[@DokiKimori]

The choice of being able to interrupt chains is amazing. This was killing me when using Senkaku with Ellen

[@zardon_zane1630]

They have to, their competition is Wuwa (yes I know those are different kind of games but they were released really close) so is good that competence is making games better :D

[@dudebro7567]

I have mixed feeling about this more challenging content is great and less tv is great but what was the point of the time system if you can eventually just reach a point where you can change the time and controlling your agents outside of combat is cool but it feels like the devs are just trying to please the players without keeping their own artistic vision in tact (idk how to phrase this better)

[@weusedtobeangels]

I just discovered the internet and being in the community today and I'm absolutely baffled on how the people's reactions for the TV segments of the game are totally opposite as mine. I think the TV is amazing.

[@stevej1235]

many are just Wuwa hills, they are irrational losers, what they hate is not tv, is hoyoverse brand

[@SanityPotion776]

I’m in the same boat. I really enjoy the TV sections lol

[@puglifeforever8345]

They take fucking forever, we just have to sit on a screen for a total of like 3 minutes each missions waiting for the little text bubbles in the top right to leave so we can continue playing the game

[@legosiw]

Tbh I like the TV parts as a puzzle aspect. It has its own charm. But being able to run through physically as the character is so much fun. I'd be fine with a plot the route in tv mode then run it with your agents for extra goodies would be fun

[@SonnyLando]

I hope they split the options with the TVs. Like yall can do what ever yall want and I’ll continue using the TVs

[@Konpekikaminari]

You & me both I actually LIKE the TVs

[@i_lunarr]

Yeah I think there should be an option I love the tvs

[@leech204]

ZZZ is really just a modern HI3, and I'm all for it

[@miguerys9503]

Classic Hoyo.They listened... and they did very little or nothing. Believe them when you see them ACTUALLY improving things. They said the same during beta test about the TV system and they did nothing.

[@TheWaifuConnoisseur]

I know you haven’t gotten far enough in hi3 or pgr to experience this, but there are some god awful exploration mechanics later in both those games that makes it feel so sluggish. I’d much rather deal with TV exploration than be a slow moving mechsuit in pgr, or have to deal with mandatory walking segments and “open world” exploration in hi3. Rally missions aren’t sluggish, and probably similar to early hi3 mission styles, but I still have that slight fear that they might overhaul TV for the worst. I said it in another video, but treat ZZZ kind of like Persona or a jrpg, and you might have a better time playing. ZZZ has a similar story loop feeling that jrpg’s have for me, and after going at it in that perspective my experience has become way better. And imma borrow something that you said in the past, “a game made for everyone is a game made for no one.”

[@tactaillike]

hopefully the story changes (point 1) aren't for just a small part of the story in 1.1; if it's at least like half of the story content being told inside new eridu rather than the tv's that's a W imo

[@Pandrawrr]

With changes like these, honestly the future is looking bright for ZZZ. My biggest gripe with the combat was the forced switching because for me it just breaks the flow of combat so badly. It also felt like it took away player agency, so I'm really glad this change is coming to give that back.

[@RejectedInch]

"Zenless Zone Zero devs listened!?" No, simply they're sweating bullets after noticing that the game is not doing well as they expected.

[@furuderika8093]

Ill probably wait till 2.0 to try it. Keep those QoL updates rolling.

[@hijodelsoldeoriente]

Point No.2 is the biggest for me. With it, the game is like playing itself and you just have to press a QTE button, at least now, they give you more freedom.

[@16bitOtaku]

But I like the TVs it’s like a puzzle

[@daniel336600]

what everyone would of given for us to hear this from genshin devs way back then

[@dethreroller]

Hope it'll be implemented soon not just a promise/roadmap

[@BadgerOff32]

Mtashed, you seen anything about that new game coming out from the Tower of Fantasy devs? It's another game with a stupid name, it's called Neverness to Everness (or NTE for short), but it looks good! It's like a 'Genshin GTA', with a huge city to explore, cars to drive and upgrade and apartments to buy!

[@dedfish7495]

The parry still changes characters right?

[@diwatasmile801]

Nice been waiting for you to cover this upcoming changes.

[@OSE7EN7]

For real, ZZZ has been growing on me more and more as i play. Wasn't too much of a fan on the start, but was never hating the game. Was a decent game at best, but it's growing on me and become better and better as i progress. Awesome news with the combat modes getting more difficult. Can't wait.

[@kaguya099-0]

let me run around as the wolf boy and ill be happy

[@Vasarcdus]

I hadn't heard you say it before, but I had the exact thought after doing my first rally mission the other night. "That was the most fun this game has been, and now I don't like the TV bits except for maybe in hollow zero..."

[@kelogz007]

It’s not surprising that devs for a new game will make changes according to community concerns. The question is will this still be the case one year and millions of players down the road lol.

[@SnowxXxAngel]

I liked the 'tv mode'.... it was fun!

[@akialter]

No matter how bad a game can be, what only matters in the end is whether dev listens or not. Hype for the future of ZZZ

[@imannews5419]

I love the TV missions, what's the problem, lol

[@latitude990]

This is amazing. Now PLEASE improve the disc drive interface if that's what we're gonna be spending most of our time using

[@GoldenFireball_23]

Mtash with the Mr.Pokke special. Number one free to play zenless zone zero btw, Original devs listened streamer.

[@lvrbad5588]

Its crazy that a game getting QoL changes is called "pulling a Wuthering Waves" when HSR literally gives us insane QoL changes every patch ever since release

[@fable2830]

Nothing on the level of wuwa tbh and I don't even play wuwa that much

[@Morichoradio]

​@@fable2830 Wuws was sht ass at first thats the reason why they went through 100+ hotfixes, minor and major update. It was unoptimized and overall a stupid experience for those who placed during the 1.0 patch

[@lvrbad5588]

@@fable2830 I have played both games since release every day and HSR has had better QoL changes so far

[@Katicflis1]

I'm calling wuwa QoL changes insufficient until they make tacet field farming less awful. Killing 5 mob waves over and over is such a joke.

[@devildante9]

@@lvrbad5588 HSR has been out for well over a year and a half, while WuWa is like 2 months old. Also HSR is from Hoyo, who has literally infinite money, while Kuro had to take loans out the ass to develop WuWa. That being said, I'm super happy to have support HSR because of all the QoL and endgame modes they release constantly, while I dropped genshin back in 2.3 after not implementing anything, it was a good call because it took them 3 more years to even start doing QoL stuff.

[@KhoaLýMinh-m3l]

Can't believe that Genshin is the only game that Mihoyo never puts any QoL changes in that game, 'Genshin could never' is no more a meme or a slander, it's a fact lmao

[@Armong_G]

When was the last time you played genshin?

[@cakegood]

​@@Armong_GLet's be real they're adding QOL nobody asked for or cares about, right now ppl are complaining about the new region lacking characters with melanin

[@LUCAS420BLZ]

They took 3 years to add a claim all button in the material farming thing

[@kacper0563]

You should check the leaks for 5.0, there is a lot of QoL coming in the next patch, and we just got an upgrade to commission completion and battlepass dailies completion, making it basically spend resin>collect commission reward>collect expedition reward>claim daily bp xp, which makes the daily grind just like hsr.

[@kacper0563]

@@cakegood last time I checked skin colour has no impact on gameplay, I don't know how you came to the conclusion that qol and skin colour coincide with eachother.

[@dyeluke7236]

im telling u guys, dont sleep on this game, start now before you regret not farming gems in the future. I can see this games bright future

[@othaneconnor8850]

I think I'm one of the only people who actually enjoys the TVs lol

[@i_lunarr]

From the looks of it a lot of people enjoy the tvs but it's just the people that hate the tvs are more vocal and complain becuase thet don't have a subway surfer ad at the bottom of their screen

[@othaneconnor8850]

@i_lunarr it mixes things up and they obviously put a lot of effort into it. Might not be for everyone, but then again, a game made for everyone is a game for no one.

[@i_lunarr]

@othaneconnor8850 exactly I think the best thing to do would be to have an option saying launch in TV mode or launch in game mode at mission start

[@mad0813]

I dont think they should get ride of the tvs all togethwr but yes i feel like rally is what the same should have been.

[@Zigzog420]

Damn TV mode is awesome, rally missions are too involved. Prefer the TVs aesthetic and chill gameplay. Oh well.

[@kuricosmos]

There's definitely room for both. As I loved the puzzles that the Exploration mode brought. However I worry that they could run out of cool ways to keep that engaging long term. Ideally you'd want engaging zones, cool hacking puzzles via HDD, and hub worlds. I do believe they want to keep the game size smaller and be friendly to pick up and play, so this has to be strategically done.

[@sven4423]

Devs for the grindy stuff like artifacts and upgrade materials just include an auto fight mode. Kinda anoying having to play everyday to spend energy. Just make it like HSR and autoplay that stuff please.

[@enderbotv1766]

they better didnt remove the TV's

[@raydough874]

Am I the only one who enjoys TV? It’s unique to any to gatcha games I don’t want zzz to just become another open world exploration style game 😭

[@schonkigplavuis8850]

I need the TV's because my hand hurts from clicking

[@reys4k]

so what update are we getting all these fixes?? cuz we need these asap

[@reidenar]

And they still aren't implementing ability to change music in the store... Come on.

[@MatttPickklesss]

I found zzz enjoyable just like you said the longer I kept playing the more I was enjoying the game

[@NonstopNoah]

Link the dev response in the description?

[@kkodeko]

awesome news, keep up the vid format

[@Dysputant]

I'm glad i have attention span longer than 1 minute. I can play with tvs and i feel fine...

[@bigmilk13_]

Good for you, but it's boring as hell. Don't insult other people's attention spans because you like a shitty gamemode

[@Gheniel_]

Doesn't matter, even with attention spam of 50h its still boring mode

[@Larky90]

It has nothing to do with Attention span, they are just unnecessary inconveniences, adds literally nothing to the gameplay at all, actually i would even go as far as it's taking away from the gameplay fluidity.

[@evecrimson3306]

U like watching unnecessary ads in KZbin i know . Cuz u got big attention span

[@GroundDragonIII]

You need attention to beat tv mode?

[@SignusDav]

i just hope that the mechanics got better because it has the same problems as genshin, sometimes you can attack something especific mob and you end up hitting something way in the other way and it attack the other you wanted to attack it doesnt let you do what you want to do its really annoying

[@a4arick106]

Rally Commission finally a thing

[@Atmo-sp]

My only question is... What happened during the 3 CBT ? No one gave this obvious feedback or did Hoyo just didn't care until they got the backlash on release ?

[@damo1329]

They didn't care then or now, there will be no substantial change as always, it is to calm the waters and get money from the fools who still continue or believe that this game will improve its shitty puzzles in the most annoying aspect, I reached lvl 30 And I get tired, I leave him and I don't come back for empty promises.

[@Thatscrazyy4real]

Now all we need is 5 million pulls as compensation

[@b-l1969]

I dunno, I kind of enjoy the TV motif.

[@yep8669]

they should have never made the tvs a main mechanic. More just a side minigame

[@jilvermazariegos]

THEY LISTENED OMG THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!

[@monkeyslapapparatus]

I agree, the game is okay. I hope it gets better if not, ill be dropping it and focusing on wuthering waves.

[@hiirookamura3166]

If they take out the TV in the story i would quit tbh, i ain't doing honkai impact final chapter bullshits all over again. That kind of narrative is just boring

[@baskorosuryaputra1925]

Damn. If they remove the tv mode, I might go back to the game.

[@Pequod_LZ]

The real question is will you still get parry points even after interrupting your chain? If not then ima realistically be still spamming chain attacks.

[@salto7080]

missed opportunity to remake that devs listened thumbnail

[@IAMDEMIURGE]

Why is chat surprised? We know that hoyo always listen to playerbase in all their games excluding genshin heck even GGZ gets QoL updates to this day even if its playerbase is low and hoyo is of the most generous gacha company

[@cozmipark]

Finally we can use Agents in the city 😭

[@LuZErTX]

genshin is a joke at this point. Thanks wuwa for "listening meta"

[@malificajones7674]

I don't understand why Genshin is so static. The development team were super responsive in Honkai Impact 3rd. They made constant improvements to the UI, the in-game currency, the game modes, character progression... everything. I suspect they will give ZZZ a radical overhaul based on all the negative feedback... which is great!

[@crazylife4543]

Only reason they listened is probably because of the numbers right? I mean hey at least it means things were bad enough that they actually had to change stuff to be better for the playerbase, issue with genshin is no matter how bad it gets, since they print money they arent as incentivized

[@Solidwake]

Any and all changes that are seen as positive goes a long way. I'm still in the chapter 2 area. So I'm looking forward to the changes but have been enjoying the game overall.

[@Golder_10]

i don't hate the TVs, i feel like they just take away momentum

[@fatoldhikki4837]

Zzz release soon, last gameplay tune incoming

[@partskeleton]

Me, having not lost any hype this whole time: 😮

[@Boukensha123]

Bro, hopefully they SEVERELY reduce the TV sections in the main story. We're playing a videogame, just show it to me what's happening. The TVs don't accomplish that. It's the equivalent of looking at my bedroom's wall and pretending that the bacteria walking on it have a story to tell me. Fun is subjective yeah but objectively speaking, this presentation is horrendous. How would you feel if you went to watch a movie and all they show you is the same background with some dialogue boxes? That's no movie at all. Digimon games have a better cyber world than this game and it's been done for decades now. Just do that.

[@ashseacrest]

No way people are hype over this. These are all changes that shouldve been made in the CBT. Hoyobots are eating good i guess

[@mothslayer1803]

Honestly. The game was really bland. I liked the story but sitting through those boring sequences and fights dude.. very repetitive

[@Apeeps]

i thought only minorities of people dislike TV system. i despise it. not only it's slow, it's obnoxious, too much yapping, puzzling, wasting time. like you can't even move until the yapping stops. and then move again and then the whatever it is start talking again like wtf. the amount of time you'd likely spend on TV could be longer than the actual fighting. finally the game now playable

[@LUCAS420BLZ]

Nobody likes the TV system and if they do it's tolerance

[@DisLichii]

i feel like ppl are being swept away by the "devs listened" meme. almost everything on this list is what you'd expect from normal updates of a video game. most endgame? improving UI? fixing the horrible time-related gameplay restrictions (have to go to bed)? yeah, all expected to be included with normal updates, these are not "devs listened" worthy. to me there's 3 additions here that are "devs listened worthy", maybe. 1. control over "chain attacks" - really i don't even know how the game was released without this. this is a combat-oriented game and i don't have control over how i want to approach combat? yes i know you can wait out the timer for the chain-attack, if that was their intended way to play then that's not only boring but actually criminal to plant noob-traps like that. 2. less TVs in the future - this one i'm cautious about. even with my very limited game time, the re-use of gameplay zones was very apparent and felt super cheap. replacing TVs with gameplay zones will only highlight this more. hopefully this will push them to create more gameplay zones, but we'll see (and ffs why can't we JUMP in a combat game?! dafuq) 3. being able to play as other characters while outside combat zones - again, something i'm surprised the game released without. in a character-collector ppl want to look at their characters and play as their characters, this is incredibly obvious. the chain-attack control will make me go back and try the game again, but i'm not expecting much. my personal experience is that the game needed another 6 months of development before release.

[@By-Izy]

Agreed, too much consecutive bad update and overhype on some normal ones

[@Malcommind]

Ppl love echochambers

[@ashseacrest]

As long as devs even say a word to the community, they will eat it up and rejoice

[@TerraTheWise]

Brother these are not “normal updates” for a video games. These are pretty sizable changes that are going to have a big impact on player experience. Especially the ones coming later. More than anything else, people are just happy that the devs are communicating about so many big changes happening so early into the game. It gives people confidence in knowing that the devs are listening and paying attention. Yea some things “should have” been in the game already but the fact is they weren’t. Don’t know why you’re being such a downer.

[@reys4k]

​@@TerraTheWiseit's funny to me cuz most of these things were in the game in the closed beta

[@venjaminffxi]

Dont see any improvements in co op, and I heard that beta testers say"dev listened", im starting to think beta testers provided some weird feedback to the game, changing avatares wont affect the play experience that much, only good stuffs is the manual mode and team preset