Emotiva S12 SUB _(Z Reviews)_ Cat Approved Music Master

[@ZReviews]

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[@docgify]

You are wearing your stripey pants lol ha

[@Donsploitation]

Also very glad Chewbacca is feeling better. That pew pew rack is looking different.

[@ZReviews]

Just a re-distribution of wealth.

[@justins.1283]

@@ZReviews I liked the other tools better.

[@TheNLHAZE]

I couldn't care less audio video not cat's Damn I hate cat's creepy 😂😢😂

[@killroy123]

"cat approved" Well I'm sold.

[@CandBLawnCare]

That’s one of my favorite scenes ever. We used to demo that scene on laser disc at the home theater store I worked at in the 90’s. Those were the days.

[@claouslive]

If the S12 had the RCA cut off's I'd have gotten these instead of the S8 for my pc set up. They arrive on Monday. Thanks for making my spend my own money Zeos.

[@danielf4000]

He's just doing his job ;D But don't take his videos as something you have to buy, just double check if you do really need to buy it before doing just to spend money

[@claouslive]

@@danielf4000 Oh no i'm actually thanking him because i was looking for a sub to get for my pc. And ultimately I saved money cause the S8 is only $300

[@ZReviews]

Demon Zeos says he needs it.. NEEDS

[@brydon10]

Most audiophiles and stereo listeners just use the speakers full range and blend the sub in at a low crossover. I'm doing this with SB-1000 and it sounds great.

[@Audfile]

I just bought a pair of S8s ask me anything. Got them a few weeks ago.

[@aceofspades6667]

watching the sub excursion like that reminds me a very interesting thing sometimes found on PH.

[@larryfoster423]

I really wish people like you would stop typing things like this to excite my VIVID IMAGINATION

[@MacNifty]

I once bought off eBay some off brand theater sub that was CES, CAS something like that. I can't find them today...but that 300.00, 400w rms sub 15" hit very good a d had good punch and attack. I blew it one night drunk hosting a party with distorted signal. But I cannot find it ever again. I would like to find another one because it was really a good speaker and I've never seen another 1 in my life I never heard of it before or after. But for the price it was really a good deal and great sound.

[@JosephTongret]

I far prefer sealed subwoofers over ported, or even passive radiator subs as long as they get that radiator tuned properly. With ported subs I always felt like they called attention to themselves with music playing even after spending time getting them dialed in. I listen to bass heavy music and I run dual SVS SB-3000's. I find it much easier to blend sealed subs, and when I watch movies I don't get the same impact as I did with larger ported models but I get enough. To me non ported subs just have a faster attack and more immediacy. They do a convincing job of making it sound like my speakers are producing everything themselves. My second system has a single ported sub at the moment and I'm looking to add a pair of sealed or passive radiator boxes. I want something different than the SVS and I'd been looking at Rythmik for a while now. I've never heard any of their subs but I've read all the great reviews. This Emotiva S12 was never on my radar until now and these might be perfect. I have a pair of their Airmotiv T1 speakers and for the low price they're built insanely well and sound pretty damn good too. Emotiva offers some great gear for the money!

[@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120]

I have checked this subwoofer out a couple of times , its very well built but no hi-level input that i use for music playback, that way i get much better phase matching with front speakers because their getting the exact same signal ! 😆 Still a nice built sub bet it does punch hard , I think Rel only company who keeps the hi-level input on all their subs , My klispch Reference Digital 12 W has hi level input but cost 1k 10 years ago but class Ab hybrid

[@brydon10]

SVS SB-1000 is essentially a 13" cube with a 12" driver. Sealed sub. I have one and I love it. Used exclusively for music (for now). It has such a small footprint and the bass is very tight and impressive. I can't recommend it enough.

[@epsilonaurigaeb]

I cannot choose between the Emotiva Airmotiv S12 or SVS SB-1000. Tell me what would be best for rhythmic music?

[@fawkes9370]

Thank you very much for your video. This is what I needed small enough to fit and accurate enough to feel.

[@curly437]

Zios, I hope I'm doing it right. Have coming pair of Kanto TUK ....AND Emotiva S15. All I was looking for was to play my bass along to music.

[@zak-of-all-trades9638]

How did you set up the MIniDSP & VU-meter to monitor levels from the input signal? I'm thinking of adding one to my setup.

[@gregorkluth2857]

For everyone who wants to know everything about how and why passive radiators in combination with speaker size and everything work, I think HexiBase made a very good and informative video about that.

[@yogiwp_]

SVS SB1000 is 12" driver in 13" cube, sealed, and goes flat (less than -3dB) down to 24-25 Hz in room response. Very fast, precise, and textured bass. I think it is a very solid competitor (arguably better) at $500. For music it does amazing things. If you want to go lower go with PB1000 (ported), also at $500.

[@ZReviews]

See now I have to get one of those to compare. Still think this thing kicks ass and the radiator adds something to the impact over a sealed.

[@yogiwp_]

@@ZReviews That and the more powerful amp, S12 would work better in larger room I suppose.

[@randysalsman6992]

I'd save up the little extra to get the SVS sb-2000.

[@TheTeacherMusic]

Hey zeos, for bass music i would recomend the artist Apashe. He has some great songs and a really cool album called Renaissance and my favorite song is Lord & Master. Also how does the Emotiva S12 go up against the SVS SB-1000? Also 12 inch, sealed, 300 watt rms, 700 watt peak and $100 cheaper.

[@epsilonaurigaeb]

I also can't choose between Emotiva Airmotiv S12 or SVS SB-1000. Wondering what would be best for the music?

[@mike_ratman]

Zeos, do you need to do anything special to get that "eBay VU Meter" working? I followed the link, but it looks like a bunch of technical mumbo-jumbo.

[@briansimmons5363]

I always use a splitter as well. Mine plays quieter if I just use one.

[@1siriuswolf]

I wish you would have played a bit of Tom Sawyer from Rush..chewy probably would have did a happy dance. Awesome review! Be safe and well bruddah 🙏

[@neby_nebs]

i already have a nice setup but I watch these for the humor LOL

[@TheNLHAZE]

Funniest Gay man on KZbin love his videos 👍🍺👍👍👍👍😊😂

[@miagi1337]

For burn in of subwoofers, can you do it with 10 Hz signal? Not or barely audible but the driver is moving so it gets what it needs?

[@Audfile]

You are waaay overthinking this. It's not that serious, just play music and enjoy.

[@GGnext.crazycro]

First taught.... Oh baby I need that subwoofer to give me a massage 😉

[@aflack1976]

I thought it was the 12 inch flex model they just came out with ! This one isn’t available anymore or it’s out of stock

[@Skwid-Lives]

Would that pair well with my Elac bookshelves for my turntable 2.1 system

[@jackburton6944]

How would this compare to the HSU ULS-15 MK2 sub? It's a sealed sub that I've read is supposed to be great for music and still hold its own with with movies considering it's sealed. It packs a 15 inch driver in only slightly bigger package (18" cube) than the S12, but is a pound lighter at ~65 pounds, and has wider frequency response. It is a couple hundred dollars more than the S12, but very curious how the ULS-15 would hold up to the S12 or even an SVS SB-3000.

[@ZReviews]

Not ever had an HSU here. So hard to compare.

[@jackburton6944]

@@ZReviews Ah gotcha, no worries. Thanks for the reply!

[@docgify]

Thanks anyway for doing the reviews love yo cat and wish your channel all the best

[@aflack1976]

That bass was only coming out of that 12 inch sub? I looking at new subs and came across these

[@datsquazz]

I wonder how this stacks up to the Rythmik F12

[@ethanj1158]

Can you check out the rythmik L12? Sealed 12” servo sub for $529! Or the front ported version LV12F?

[@a.a1001]

What song is playing at @43:42 it sounds EPIC!

[@leolleiten4910]

Hey Zeos, it’s very annoying for regular non KZbin subscribers or patreons like my self, to watch this video with two advertisements every 5 min. I get it, ppl know you, KZbin knows it....please find a way, there’s a lot of people like my out there that just like what you do and can’t afford any extra expenses during these crazy times. I think I saw every video since you started. Good job and congrats for your new home!

[@jipillow1]

When Godzilla roars in the 2014 movie, my cats freak the fuck out. That movie highlights my system like no other. The sound mixing is phenomenal

[@vichetphol]

The Canton Reference 3K, 2K, 1K, Jubilee, 3.2, 2.2, 1.2 floorstanders do 18Hz up to 40,000+Hz. They need bucketloads of power to do so. Mine are coming this Saturday :D

[@anthonypayne4136]

Your pretty good at reviews I recommend when reviewing a sub find bass boosted songs to demo bass

[@firdausmansor2353]

Hi sir. I really enjoyed your review sir. The best audio speaker review channel i ever watch. Hope u can review Thonet & Vander Kurbis Bt after this.

[@vejichan]

What are the best sounding small monitors with good bass?

[@jahsus23]

Cat review is approaching!

[@TheNLHAZE]

Omg I hope Not I hate cat's 😢

[@gattie12ben]

I wish I wasn't poor then I could annoy my neighbors like this 😩🤣

[@LITSClassicGaming]

that's really a nice wallpaper

[@blutabby3917]

Chewbaca is 16 now? She seems relatively active for her age. I can tell you love your cat. I would too if I had a beautiful cat like her. Congratulations on your new house. You must have around 6,000 to 8,000 sq feet if you include the basement. Maybe more. Cheers. And meow.

[@jattposti8015]

Hey bro, this comment doesn’t relate to this video in particular, but I saw your video on rear surround speaker placement (facing upwards to the ceiling) and it sounds ducking amazing (near atmos experience). Just wanted to say thanks for your brilliant ideas.

[@Cardas_Copper]

So what about 50/50 HT/Music? Rythmik?

[@Ctripp2448]

Rythmik all day. One of the best sound quality subs you can buy

[@StagnantMizu]

What is your opinion on the microlab f330 2.1 budget speakers?

[@docgify]

I'm happy cheesy doing good hey I just bought btr5 btr3k hibypro r6 stainless steel silver opus #3 Lol and I just received tin hi p1 but I absolutely love my blon03... And my monoprice

[@Audfile]

Emotiva subs sound great!

[@MacNifty]

That sub reminds me of a rockford 12 hx2 power sub I had with a equalfitting box. This sub you are reviewing reminds me of Sunfire subs. Or Definitive Tech radiated subs. Def tech makes a 6x9 type of shaped sub driver and radiator.

[@justins.1283]

Glad Chewbacca is doing better.I kind of like it when you go on these long rants that way you let everybody know that you really like it or you're trashing the hell out of it!

[@stevestadler4634]

What movie was that in the intro?

[@Sanctus19]

Edge of Tomorrow

[@vincentdemarco6374]

Can you have them send you the RS13 (murder box)? Would love to see you tear into that thing.

[@thunderlips350]

Nice fireplace :)

[@chrono2959]

Ya baby a long last . a video that's not a damn Dac or headphones video.

[@chrono2959]

To clarify this is my favorite audiophile channel .

[@ZReviews]

@@chrono2959 Subs and speakers are more of a logistical nightmare to ship, store, test, review.. So they are like the desserts of this channel.

[@chrono2959]

@@ZReviews Thank you for all the great videos, information and entertainment.

[@kennethschoen7796]

Sometimes I come watch older videos, just to see Chewbacca again.

[@zackw4941]

I think we could get it even a little more PC and call it the Family Acceptance Parameter :p

[@bryanherr1093]

So the website says they are class D amps and the manual say A/B amplifier inside.

[@Audfile]

Its class D. You would not want an AB in a subwoofer in 2020.

[@lpd2250]

Any chance of review for Denon 9200 or 7200 headphones?

[@Cryptoman_5000]

That might be a $700 sub woofer but Chewbers is PRICELESS.

[@tomfrank2707]

Don't want or need a sub. Watched and liked because of Chewbacca. She's adorable!

[@m4nc1n1]

Every sub i ever owned had a heat sink. I def would not buy one without it

[@neko_maxi3414]

Would like to buy one, but 230$ shipping is a little too much oof

[@juliangst]

You definitely need to review REL subs

[@Baerchenization]

In his sound treated lounge, everything sounds good, no REL needed ;)

[@TheNLHAZE]

Lol 😂

[@FistofGod88]

7 large would be $7,000 lol. It would be 7 yards according to Wiki.

[@MrBonger88]

❤️ Chewy❤️🙏

[@m4nc1n1]

SHP9500's approve of this video lol. They are the best foe listening to you tube reviews (Schiit Heresy stack does not hurt either)

[@curly437]

MY REVIEW: So, I received the S15. Bought SOLELY because of Z reviews. Otherwise I would have never have known of the Emotiva. (received my Kanto Tuk at the same time, again because of Z). THANK YOU ZIOS! However! Now only if I can get the effing thing to stand still. This thing moves non stop on a tile floor. One half to one full inch per beat. It wound up across the room with the cord stretched out like a leach. Granted it was cranked but that is Unacceptable. The feet need serious re-working in the grip department. No wonder they recommend "best to have it against a wall for best performance"....because a wall is the only thing able to stop it. Maybe someone can recommend a very sticky heavy rubber mat. Very powerful tho'. BUT WAIT, the feet are pretty sticky and the thing is HEAVY. Wait, WHAT??? It's actually lifting off!!!!! The bottom firing it so fucking powerful that it's lifting and jumping back! Guess that's good and bad, depending how you look at it. Mine sits on tiled concrete floor. In your ordinary house with wood construction.....your in for a treat, the entire house will reverberate. Seeing and feeling what it does on my concrete based floor, wood floor joists are in trouble. Think of it as your floor joists and wall studs going into a losing boxing ring.

[@johnpeterson99]

I want a reaction video of Ron learning the word "excurz" for the first time!

[@edredmc-csgoandmore973]

You should teview the razer Opus Headset wohld love a comparison betwern it and hyper x clous flight

[@krmatiu]

Kitty is the real star 💫 🐈

[@dhanslee]

When I see my bank account 0:34

[@skydwellingmusic]

Hearing your voice through those Neumanns is uncanny after hearing GoPro audio for awhile

[@theenhancer]

I fit my KRK 10S under my desk. That's about 16" tall. Makes a good footrest.

[@erwinjacinto7292]

Oohhh I like the kiity

[@champion1859]

I think she died

[@Acoustic_Theory]

So your explanation of the difference between sealed enclosures and bass-reflex enclosures (which includes ported and passive radiator) is...not very technical. The technical explanation is this: A cone speaker has two sides, a front side, and a rear side. When the cone moves forward, it's creating positive pressure in the front, but at the rear side, it's creating negative pressure, what we call the "rear wave", At low frequencies, the rear wave of the woofer can run around to the front, but it's doing the opposite of what the front wave is doing, so you get a whole lot of cancellation and greatly reduced LF output. So the simplest thing we can do is provide a fully-closed (sealed) box to enclose the rear wave of the woofer. And because a closed box is now being pressurized by that rear wave, it makes the woofer's job a little harder because that closed box acts like an air spring that adds to the spring stiffness of the driver, so we make the driver suspension softer to compensate. The combination of box air spring and the mechanical spring of the driver sets a new resonant frequency for the system, where transducer motion is at maximum. But all of the rear wave of the driver is being trapped inside the enclosure, and it does not contribute to output on the front side of the speaker. So we add another mass element that also has a defined piston area - this can either be a port or a passive radiator. At upper bass frequencies the mass element, which is either the mass of air in the port or the diaphragm of the passive radiator is mostly at rest. But because it is a mass, it can work with the air spring in the enclosure to form a mass-spring system with its own resonance, and where that resonance occurs, motion of the mass element is at maximum. This resonance also creates strong resistance to motion of the active driver, so the resonant system absorbs most of the acoustic load, and this is actually desirable because the port or passive radiator usually have more generous limits to their movement, so they can more easily move air at low frequencies without an increase in distortion. The resonant motion of the port or passive radiator is actually in-phase with the speaker at the resonant frequency ("tuning frequency"). So the bass-reflex system lets the subwoofer use its rear wave to contribute to forward output, without phase cancellation; instead you get addition, and thus more output potential without reaching excursion limits of the active driver (driven by the amp). You did correctly note that the main benefit of the passive radiator is to allow reflex action without port noise. But it also allows you to define a physical mass element that would be impractical to do with a port; you can hang a lot more mass from a passive radiator than you could achieve with a practical port, unless it gets folded up like a Blue Man Group contraption. But small enclosures tuned low need those longer port tubes, so instead a passive radiator is the preferred option for small-box bass reflex subwoofers, and that's why there are many of them.

[@matthougas928]

Pretty sly of you to put an ad right after an extremely intriguing line “this isn’t MDF” Then I’m just sitting here rushing to skip the ad to find out what the magic bass box is made of

[@papapun]

Hey Z, i have a recommendation on audio to try for bass, check out the climax of the live action ghost in the shell movie where the spider tank attacks. thank me later

[@stseely1]

SVS makes a one with a 13" driver in a 15" cube sealed box 800 watts RMS, SB3000 which is what I have.

[@mindtraveller100]

0:36 That sub is having a seizure. Call 911.

[@matteobregante5656]

will you ever review the living room headphones wall? hehehe

[@griffinnb]

YES

[@iopsyc15]

Get well soon Chewbacca!

[@TheNLHAZE]

Fuck the cat this is a sub video lol 😂😂

[@TheNLHAZE]

Fuck the cat this is a sub video 😂😂

[@iopsyc15]

@@TheNLHAZE smoke up ponyboy!

[@TheNLHAZE]

@@iopsyc15 lol🤣🤣🤣🍺

[@insidiousengineering]

Zeos. Please do a vid re: the sub VU . Mad Science Hour?

[@bradisley4206]

I second this cant read the pics wish it had a downloadable pdf

[@F3udF1st]

You really need better lighting, just some at all would be great! The drivers aren't visible at all :'-(

[@DanAkaPharaoh]

I just came here for the cat

[@kcmartino31]

Zreviews u need to hear definitive technology supercubes

[@b.a.2335]

Z, maybe it's the best musical sub for the money b/c you're saying it sounds better than a Rel, Revel or Martin Logan sealed subs? That's hard to believe.

[@TheObiShinobi]

How does this work? 4:18

[@MrJagot]

Im pretty sure this is Class A/B. unusual for a Subwoofer amp but, that's how it was advertised.

[@Acoustic_Theory]

The first units were Class A/B, but the original amp boards had an issue with noisy grounding so the amp module was replaced with a discrete Class-D module, but the power supply was still linear (using a transformer, big caps, and a rectifier). The Class-D amp modules had considerably better driver control and ran a lot cooler. There is much more physical content in these subs than in the SVS cubes, which use an IC-based Class-D.

[@WeebLabs]

If you are attempting to attain 8Hz with a subwoofer, "you're doing it wrong". That is a task for a Buttkicker.

[@mylogify]

Your cat is so cute!!!

[@kylef_1129]

Sub review :)

[@GGnext.crazycro]

So where do I SubScribe 😅

[@ZReviews]

ooooooooooo

[@abielpangga6314]

i have come to a conclusion that z's one sub for all is the rythmik g25hp

[@Cr30s]

Fact no-one will care for : if you want to test your sub with the Day of Tomorrow opening, do it with audio set on English. My Netflix decided to switch to my native (non English language) and they just killed all wubs wubs from dubbing it.

[@alvaro8a]

Movie name on intro?

[@shaneryan8538]

I can never find the subs he gives reviews like this on

[@blanex10]

What's the anime song at 32:49?

[@robertorodriguez2609]

Chew will be missed when she is no more...(if i go first, others will miss her)

[@manueltrevino6749]

trampoline shaed

[@bradgould]

So basically for break-in, just watch 5-6 Michael Bay movies...

[@Rp707]

Im early and late at the same time

[@docgify]

Sorry hate bragging yes I had a windfall it's keeping me poor this channel hehe

[@MacNifty]

Always my favorite items for reviee are subwoofers and headphones. 2 very important pieces of reference tools. I still have my BP 3000 TL towers from definitive technology 1996 they still work like the day they were purchased. To 18" subs, 1,500rms, 3,000 peak.. And the design of the transmission line boxes the bass is very low! 13hz. My home and studio is limestone walls and slate roof. It's like a cave. Perfect for isolation, cabin pressure. I have a Room in the basement that is all 1' thick concrete poured walls. I just now need a concrete or a very thick solid ceiling between the floor and the lowest level.