OGRE KINGDOMS Army Guide - Part 1: Roster | Warhammer 3

[@gravitydefyingturtle]

It's kind of crazy that, on the unit cards, all of the circles showing the unit's abilities are all squished together like they are. There's plenty of space on the card below it to add additional rows.

[@ruukinen]

Agreed. And I also don't see why they removed the icon which let you see the healing cap remaining.

[@dac314]

The weird, highly mobile single entity artillery pieces are gonna be totally busted in the Immortal Empires. They're as fast as most heavy cav! That's just unthinkable!

[@madlarkin8]

Eh, they are good, but with the "Wounds" debuff on single entities slowing them down and reducing their damage output both by 25% I dont think its so bad. I was expecting massed arty meta in multiplayer but it just doesnt work. As an example, winged lancers can chase down and murder scraplaunchers, skullcannons, and little groms and they are only T2 cav. Dogs are also surprisingly good against them.

[@dac314]

@@madlarkin8 thank fuck

[@G1ingy]

I'm disappointed Rhinox and Mournfangs aren't mount options for Tyrants and Slaughtermasters/Butchers.

[@cfroelich83]

I am too. I bet they get added as either FLC, or when they add Yetis and the Thundertusks.

[@mrhelzbygrad7485]

@@cfroelich83 I suspect Yhettis, Thundertusks, some sort of Abominable Snowbelly Hero that can use ice magic (only kidding it will be something like a Bruiser) and the Gutsman. Don't know if they could invent some other snow-themed unit, or just give us some weird Gnoblars.

[@karatekan2182]

With the current models, that would look pretty silly, unless they scaled up the Mournfangs. They are significantly bigger than normal Ogres.

[@julianswinton5355]

@@mrhelzbygrad7485 Unlikely but what if we get new kind of fire mouth units/monsters mixed with ice themed creatures? Or we just get Gnobblar piggyback riders and such;)

[@mrhelzbygrad7485]

@@julianswinton5355 I will probably be happy if the Piggyback Knights have a sufficiently silly animation

[@ElDesperado7]

Gnoblars have 15 armour wearing a soucepan on their head. Demonaettes have 5. does that mean a demoneatte with a soucepan on her head should have 20 armour?

[@darthplagueis13]

It would have to be a big saucepan. I mean, relative to the Gnoblars size, the saucepan covers actually quite a bit.

[@DarkCreed]

Maybe their skin is also thicker?

[@theflyingkaramazovbrothers6]

yeah the ratings don't make sense, the Slaaneshi units have more visible armor and just 5.

[@patt5085]

They have very delicate skin and require frequent moisturizer routine

[@the_vanguard5314]

More armor for Daemonettes? You‘re truly cruel to deny them all that delicious pain.

[@Werchiel]

Ogres are such a fun faction to play, camps which allow you to jam yourself up enemy territory and VERY easily get about 25-30% replenishment within the first couple of turns means you can just keep going. They are also absolutely amazing as spellcasters surpisingly enough between having a lot of winds, the ability to manipulate it, having multiple spellcaster types, and the lore of Maw being really really good at absolutely demolishing infantry. Also - having a line of 10 regiments of leadbelchers firing cannons is so glorious. I just finished an ogre campaign and I already itch for another one.

[@stepankadlec8827]

Wow. 66 speed on those artilery pieces. I wouldn't have guessed Ogres to be the shoot, run and repeat boys

[@zimtwiers9726]

They are faster than khorne cav looks really strong

[@thegametroll6264]

Ogres are my favorite faction in warhammer old world and age of sigmar. I've been so hyped up for months waiting to try out my favorite lads. Can't wait to loot and plunder with my favorite drinking/brawling buddies.

[@klinktastic]

I'm actually strongly considering Ogre Kingdoms as my first faction on launch. Originally it was Nurgle, but I might table them for when they get a buff.

[@gameburrito2502]

Game hasnt come out and they already need a buff?

[@klinktastic]

@@gameburrito2502 All the KZbinrs have demonstrated the units a little lackluster compared to the other Chaos gods. Basically the Soulgrinder for Nurgle is amazing artillery.

[@Kfo221]

@@klinktastic Play it yourself and then judge it

[@klinktastic]

@@Kfo221 I will, as some point. But I was hype on Nurgle (my favorite faction) for my first go around. I'm thinking OK will be #1 for me now.

[@coolkumla]

@@klinktastic Unless you play on Legendary/Very Hard faction strength doesn't matter in the slightest, you will have no problem playing Nurgle on Easy, Normal and Hard difficulties

[@vittoscaletta9542]

Players: Creative Assembly, can we have skaven please? CA: We already have skaven in the game. Skaven in the game: 10:20

[@arthanor9631]

Lots of incremental upgrades in this roster, specific playstyle and getting better at it, but not very varied.

[@derekkrumel1407]

thanks for making these vids! I get hyped up to see the design of these games but I don't have a rig to play them so these kinds of videos really make my day. also the slaughtermaster was kind of a babyface and I thought that was pretty funny

[@svxnger]

Ogres vs Dwarfs is gonna be really interesting to see

[@jackstanton2145]

A Tyrant has a trait called Arsebelcher are you sure he isn't part of the Nurgle faction.

[@flyrockjr7752]

Please make part two

[@kingsguard5614]

I just hope the game will be fine on release bec I did the stupid thingy and preordered...

[@EM-tx7qm]

I “think” this is one of those occasions (like with Elden Ring) where you are probably safe with the preorder.

[@zimtwiers9726]

i waited, still gonna oreorder today

[@officialteaincorporated243]

Game 1 and 2 were good so something would have to go horrifically wrong for this to be bad.

[@maxmichalik4938]

Are you actually planning on ever making all of these part two videos?

[@sup1602]

@Zerkovich, where are the part 2s? I know this is like your other unit guides where thats all you cover, but you are blue balling me for a part 2.

[@danielsperacino2453]

Did part 2 come out? I can't seem to find it anywhere but it has been 3 months

[@winns35]

Is there a such thing as a part 2 to any of these videos?

[@TheSgtFarmer]

I"VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

[@mrhelzbygrad7485]

I keep hoping that Greesus' cart is an April fool, but then I remember it's February. I suppose when you zoom out it's hard to know the difference but zoomed in, it's pretty bad.

[@brainafk9481]

Boy, this fat Santa Claus will never be played be me. Holy crap. Ridicioulus

[@joshuacollins9346]

Iron blaster and the scrap launcher are both anti-infantry. The iron blaster shot is also 5 cannon balls IIRC.

[@uuza09]

The iron blaster tears shreds off SEM

[@loreofmetalenthusiast]

Thanks for these 👍

[@omegon2540]

Can’t wait for the thunder tusk to show up

[@SusaVile]

I wonder if having artillery with just one model but make it into a sort of chariot based, with speed, was just a design choice or more because of domination battles. It seems having speedy artillery for those might at least ensure they get to be used there properly.

[@dylanhughes8457]

It was a model in the tabletop game, it just so happened that multiple of the factions set for Warhammer 3 had chariot-esque artillery so it feels like a theme

[@SusaVile]

@@dylanhughes8457 I assumed so, but the amount of models per unit is also 1 on tabletop?

[@dylanhughes8457]

@@SusaVile yup, same with the skullcannon. It'll be the same for the chaos dwarves when they come out, all of their artillery are single large machines

[@julianswinton5355]

@@SusaVile Chariots/Arti kombi units were terriffying on 8th Edition table top.

[@PoorManatee6197]

@@SusaVile all artillery was 1 model on tabletop

[@MrTwiggy73]

Cant wait till they release some Gnoblar Legendary Lord in DLC so you can go full Gnobbo.

[@mattporter6903]

Just look at all those succulent moobs...

[@Molotov_Milkshake]

I tried them out as my first online match and I won. They seem pretty fun, especially the guy on the mobility scooter.

[@Disableddonkeys88]

Didn't mention the Iron blasters speed brother

[@nezfromhki]

I'm going to be honest: While realism is never a big thing in Warhammer, the fact that some of those ogre units are weak against armor seems odd. I don't care how tough your armor is, if a thing that big comes at you with a massive hammer, you're going to get crushed or at least the impact from the blows would be so strong that your bones and organs would take a beating, even if the armor itself didn't cave in. But I do get it from a gameplay balancing perspective obviously.

[@brightestlight9462]

in the tabletop, ogre bulls had a special armor piercing ability due to using gigantic clubs--however, using bladed weapons--like the ironfist--negated that bonus, as the blades while still massive, aren't as obscenely effective against armor--the ironfists gave an extra attack though, as well as counting as a shield. the armor piercing was reeaally good though.

[@keithsstepdad]

they would be ridiculously broken if this was the case.

[@yuzuftazimo2157]

Stonehorne harpoon launcher looks like a viable doomstack lol

[@MrKingkez]

intersting so they powerd down the iron blaster i saw it do 1.7 in a vid only a few days ago,,,

[@alexs_toy_barn]

I think the ogre cav has too much armour but that's just me, I'm not sure why kislev cav has less armour than an ogre riding a bigass wolf Maybe the ogres will really have to rely on their cav, that's why the cav is statwise so good. They're all monster cav so easy to shoot, high armour potentially for that reason

[@rubz1390]

I think the logic is that the hides of the creatures is basically armor. Crushers are basically rhinos.

[@gabzsy4924]

I'm an anorexic vegan with anemia but I still love to play with Ogre Kingdoms.

[@Mightfox]

MANEATER PISTOLS HAVE FIRE WHILE MOVE NOW AND 30% MORE RANGED DAMAGE???? FUUUUUCK YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Also, how the hell are leadbelchers not a top tier requirement unit? Incredible unit.

[@jb1139]

How the heck do you get Greasus into combat to begin with? Slow as molasses and his overall size means he gets caught on pretty much everything; his troops, enemy troops, trees, bushes... Even if he gets into combat, he has a very slow attack rate and I swear he has whiffed attacks in my play through.

[@Polex411]

but theres no part two out there.

[@cacarey01]

part 2?

[@hennyhenna6045]

Gorgers units = savage ogre's, right? And what does the skill by the gorgers named '' gorger'' does by the enemy's? curious about that :D

[@mariusdragoe2888]

Basically they are imperfect/mutated baby ogres that are thrown in a ravine by their parents Sparta style and the ones that survive grow up feral and driven mad by hunger

[@darthplagueis13]

Gorgers are basically Ogres who were born weak and scrawny. Since Ogre society idolizes fatness and strength, such weaklings are not accepted into the tribe but instead simply banished into the caves in the mountains of mourne. Though you'd expect them to just get eaten by random predators, some of these creatures survive and end up developing into muscular, lean and extraordinarily voracious feral creatures - that's the Gorgers. The skill doesn't actually do anything, the only reason it exists is because Skrag has an ability that explicitly targets Gorgers, so there needs to be a marker. It's the same as with the Skavens Clan Moulder monsters which also have an extra tag to allow for abilities to explicitly target them.

[@hennyhenna6045]

@@darthplagueis13 very clear:D thx for the information

[@justdracir8197]

Sadly no Yetis. Probably with DLC i guess.

[@karentiger5117]

My question is where is Fiona and shrek, I thought they meant to be legendary lords?

[@ljgav]

Sweet, they still Slave Giant's!

[@oda_luli]

many streamers hype this faction during the release but nah i still prefer skaven, their food system is rabbish the expansion capability of ogre kingdom is too minimal and too impossible missions for mercenary works

[@scelonferdi]

Why did they drop the AP on so many ogre units? I mean it kind of messes up role recognition. Montrous Infantry with appropriately sized handweapons tend to be AP, dual wielder AP-AI and the ones with great weapon equivalents AP-AL. Deviating from that kinda messes with easy role recognition (also it's a giant blunt weapons!). I really don't understand why they did it...

[@paramite67]

even on tabletop Ogre bulls don't have AP, they do lots of damages but without any rend, maybe that's why

[@scelonferdi]

@@paramite67 Well, they do have s4 which reduces armor saves by 1, just as much as halberds on most human units. I also never understood why GW (or CA for that matter) never appreciated blunt weapons being an important anti armor tool (not really piercing, but circumventing).

[@paramite67]

@@scelonferdi i don't know about this i just remebered that their weapon profile was 3+ 3+ 0 2, but i only know the one from AOS

[@scelonferdi]

@@paramite67 Yeah, AoS's profiles were a lot less nuanced. In WHFB you had strength and toughness. Comparing the attackers strength and toughness by consulting a table gave you the roll needed to wound (4+ for S=T, 3+ for S>T, 2+ for S>=2*T, 5+ for S

[@Thibull]

Ogre Bulls still does 31 armor piercing damage, which is still something when you think about it, its more than imperial greatswords or hallberdiers technically

[@pancogito561]

can anyone tell or link music used in this video?

[@DIEGhostfish]

21:10 his brow ridges move way too much.

[@darthplagueis13]

Not gonna lie, I feel like compared to the rest of the roster, Skrag is aggressively boring. Like, it feels like all he really has for flavour (pun fully intended) is his buff for Gorgers, aside from that he's just really freaking basic. I mean, Greasus also isn't the most exciting design, but at least he has a lot of personality and some more thematic abilities.

[@varengo1838]

we ll have to wait for Golgfag

[@MMooKow]

So Ogres are just a Bretonia reskin with mostly mounted units? :P

[@AccountNameTaken]

Bretonnia if it had super mutant peasants

[@HellecticMojo]

I wouldn't call them reskins as Brets hold better and have more mobility, but they do share the same playstyle

[@iTrivyum]

Gorgers are OP and need a nerf lol

[@steevpikeman8721]

what the f##k thats NOT artillery. 22:28

[@JayJay-wf2oe]

23:12 one thing you didn't mention was the ridiculous speed of 66 on Ironblaster, making it moves faster than every single infantry unit in the game.

[@naders7200]

at 66 speed I think they even keep pace with empire knights, poor poor empire knights so much anti large armor piercing that out runs them

[@mr_girr3488]

from this i take it that ironblaster is meant to keep up with your ogre infantry, so you never have to worry about your artillery staying behind your lines

[@TenebSR]

All ogre artillery is quite mobile, which will be their main advantage

[@dac314]

@@TenebSR most of the artillery in TWW3 are highly mobile, it's incredible. But these and the Khorne ones are really nightmarish for the poor Empire Knights

[@steevpikeman8721]

@@naders7200 ...what the f##k? no empire knights CAN kill that canon with EZZ

[@TheGlenn8]

The first faction in which giants might actually be good. What holds back giants in the other factions is that giants are slow, vulnerable to missles, and most importantly stuck in rush factions. Greenskins, Norsca, Warriors, and Beastmen all want to rush the enemy and the a slow giant will simply arrive at the fight too late. But since the ogres can heal the giant and can go a ranged heavy build the giant might finally get its time to shine as a powerful lord dueling and infantry crushing monsters.

[@benderbendingrodriguez6375]

To be fair You can play defensively with Greenskins and Warriors but it depends on who you're fighting.

[@whitecreamymilk8436]

Ogres seem to be very rushy too. But I guess they can technically fill any role

[@ethanmartin8434]

If the magic system worked the way it did in tww2 that would probably be the case, but since you are hard capped at 100 winds of magic outside of the realms of chaos and troll guts is a single target, healing still isn't that much of an option. The giants will probably be better for the ogres but definitely not top tier

[@whitecreamymilk8436]

@@ethanmartin8434 ogres are still literally a rush faction still

[@TheGlenn8]

@@benderbendingrodriguez6375 Rushing is probably still the main strenght of ogres. But they seem to have a pretty viable secondary defensive playstyle with some powerful ranged units. Much more so than the warriors or greenskins have. Greenskins and warriors also don't have any healing for the giant.

[@melkhiordarkfell4354]

No lie the Ogre lorebook was the best, most fun in Warhammer, in particular the Gnoblar Kingdom supplement is my favourite writing, I reread it regularly and still love it.

[@BonzoDrummer]

Ogre Kingdoms are post-20th century and therefore not canon.

[@christopherclayton5500]

@@BonzoDrummer What do you mean, they have lots of cannons.

[@thegametroll6264]

The ogre kingdoms became a fast favorite in old world warhammer and age of sigmar for these reasons and more. They fit my play style across so many games and role-playing.

[@LordVader1094]

@@BonzoDrummer Okay, and?

[@TheGlobuleReturns]

The original 2006 Ogre Kingdoms (the grey/green skin version) is legendary!

[@Goatboy451]

You know you're an Ogre when you have 90 armour value but still have your moobs out.

[@jakepierner5783]

That fat provides a lot of protection

[@magni5648]

Ogres canonically have almost all their vital organs situated around the belly, while their upper body is mostly just a hell f a lot of muscles, fat and bone. That's why the first piece of armor any Ogre wants is a gut-plate. Chest wounds meanwhile aren't going to kill, or even really slow down, an Ogre unless it's something on the order of a bloody cannonball or similar massive brute trauma that armor wouldn't be likely to stop anyway.

[@pancytryna9378]

@@magni5648 So basically... The empire can just fuck em up with canons, lore wise? They probably also have brains so handguns too

[@magni5648]

@@pancytryna9378 When you need to bring a siege weapon to reliably put down the other guys' basic grunts, you have a little bit of an issue. Ogre's in the Empire are mostly just small tribes, mercenary bands or lone mercs, though.

[@MrWesleychuck]

I got arsebelcher ability in real life , every time I unleash everyone runs away , it really does affect leadership

[@InquisitorThomas]

That’s nothing, come back when you have a Morris Engine Effect.

[@Troupe_Master]

I cant wait for a mod to make gressus walk around like grom off his chariot

[@indrickboreale7381]

Or mod for his Gnoblartide mount option

[@akiwi2827]

I love the Slaan rehabilitation mod

[@Pyrforos]

Excuse me but was it Skrag that played the Persian executioner in 300?

[@masacar1193]

Lol,you deserve more likes XD

[@Pyrforos]

@@masacar1193 It really was my first thought "Where the hell have I seen that guy before? OH RIGHT"

[@FrizFroz]

9:32 Stalk and unspottable... on a range hero that can ride a Stonehorn?!

[@varengo1838]

I suppose he loses those traits once you put him on the mount

[@singularleaf3895]

If I remember when CA showed it off that he loses both.

[@vinee01m]

Greasus feels a bit underwhelming, both in terms of stats and model, but the rest of the roster looks awesome

[@thraxbottom549]

Betting his main strength will be outside of battles.

[@TalosBjorn]

Yeah like, I get that Greasus is an important lord in the lore but I kinda want my ogres to be led by a badass warrior of some kind, not fantasy Shrek Santa Claus too fat to walk or move

[@millerrepin4452]

@@TalosBjorn should you really be surprised that the ogres a faction who are literally all about food and eating is going have a leader who is the fattest of them all.

[@AnarexicSumo]

@@millerrepin4452 That's not at all what he said. He said he understands why Greasius is in charge but says it feels better when they're led by a badass warrior like Bragg or Golgfang.

[@TalosBjorn]

@@millerrepin4452 I mean I get that, but I feel like there's a lot more to ogres than just "fat"

[@marcgw496]

Going up against factions that tend to bring elite halberds is going to be fun. I guess you should just bring like 4 ironblasters and try to target the anti large infantry down before they get to the fight.

[@CrèmeTropBrûlée]

It's very rare to see elites heavy infantry overall, especially in multiplayer where missiles and monsters rules.

[@quasarlgq]

Get the handguns and the cannon boys, kite them while shooting them. Then send gnobblars while you charge them in the flank. Should work fine as elite haldberds are super slow and not very fast at clearing chaff

[@pureityXXX]

With one of their units being an ap ranged hybrid unit I think elite anti-large infantry will get focused by ranged to the point they are worthless, probably better to just span low tier anti-large.

[@quasarlgq]

@@pureityXXX probably light armour hit and run tactics might be best. Unless you can outrange them

[@marcgw496]

@@CrèmeTropBrûlée I don’t really play multiplayer so couldn’t speak to that but in WH2 for instance Dark elf armies always seemed to have 5-6 units of black guards towards the late game.

[@leanderdurrstein184]

What i really like about this roster is all the different variations of the same Unit. I always wanted that for Warhammer 2 races, like Black Guard with Sword and Shield, Reiksguard with Swords and so on.

[@cjthebeesknees]

I too have a drumstick stashed away in my recliner downstairs.

[@samueljackson605]

Question: is there a benefit to using Stonehorns over the Hunter on a SH mount or is this the same thing as the necromancer on a corpse cart?

[@Иван-к9ь1у]

Yes and no. Yes, hunter on SH is an improved SH. But you can field only limited amount of hunters. And unlike corpse cart - stonehorn spam is a viable doomstack. And then there is SH with harpoon launcher which is unlimited and better in ranged combat than hunter on SH.

[@TugaInUk]

Dude i just started play Warhammer 3 via game pass and I'm so happy to have found your channel. Been binging your videos as you explain stuff really well; you also have a great voice which I don't mind listening too on the back ground :D. I only ever played one of the shoguns and total war hammer 1 so I'm quite green to this type of game, hence why your content is spot on! I would love to see more tactical videos as I don't have too much time to watch full play throughs :)

[@stewpid52]

Hey Zerk, long-time lurker here! Did part 2 of this ever come out? Can't seem to find it, np if not.

[@leonidas231]

is it just me or Game 3 have alot of units with ridiculous damage?

[@darthplagueis13]

Well, yeh. But what do you expect? All of the daemons do of course hit hard and this video is about Ogres, of course they are gonna do a lot of damage. The damage values on Kislevite and Cathayan units are actually quite in line with human factions in the previous games.

[@Thibull]

If you talk about the Ironblasters, exalted flamers, Little Grom, don't forget that there is only 1 model in those units, while other artillery usualy have 4

[@farsight9239]

unfortunately Maneaters are all looking like pirates! there are the thicc Ninjas [ 2 tons of pure sneakiness ]

[@varengo1838]

hopefully we ll get them in a Golgfag dlc

[@tiomono1011]

I dunno, Greasus is a bit underwhelming. Definitely not my favorite model...probably my least favorite in all of WHTW

[@BodilBukspytt]

Is it just me that is dissapointet that High tier Ogre infantry is just normal Ogre infantry in pirate costumes? It looks silly...

[@mariusdragoe2888]

Yeah, in the lore Maneaters are mercenary ogres that travel all over the world and adopt the fashion of wherever they go. So you should have Cathay dressed ogres, Norsca dressed ogres, Brettonian dressed ogres, ork dressed ogres etc. Pirate Ogres where there isn't a real pirate faction is weird

[@evangelosvasiliades1204]

I'm not particularly disappointed, but I suppose thats because Im already used to the Ogre roster from tabletop.

[@darthplagueis13]

Yeh, they could have thrown in a lot more variety for the man-eaters. The "Pirate" Ogres are meant to be Empire Man-eaters, with the floppy hats and flamboyant clothing being a bit of a mockery of the renaissance inspired empire fashion (after all, pirates didn't uniquely dress like pirates. Pirates dressed like regular people for the most part, it's just that we do associate the look with them nowadays because we don't tend to think about early modern working class fashion). I guess the reason they didn't include a wider variety of optics is because 1) The game actually uses consistent material types for unit clothing (for instance, empire swordsmen currently use wh2_main_chainmail) which presumably determines things such as physics and hit feedback. Having entirely different styles of clothing within the same unit might not be 100% doable within the engine 2) Maybe the devs just thought that it would be weird to have man-eaters share the same statline across the unit if there was a massive discrepancy between outfits, ranging from thick pelts and furs from Norscan man-eaters over puffy tilean mercenary clothes all the way to Ninja outfits and chain mail. Who knows, maybe we will get a man-eater-centered faction with Golfag one day and additional man-eater variants that are based on different geographic styles of combat to go with it.

[@Иван-к9ь1у]

You completely missed the fact that artillery is on chariots with 66 speed. They can easily run away from infantry, actively change positions for betteer firing lines and once they ran out of ammo/if needed they can work as a weak chariot, running down routers/charging backlines - an unusual trait for artillery pieces.

[@brandonkeener8885]

already my favorite race, can't wait for thursday!

[@nopls3607]

Does anyone know what the hunter uses for the missile attack, or does he just spit really hard

[@karatekan2182]

The Javelin he’s carrying?

[@officialteaincorporated243]

Javelins

[@104thstudios8]

When will part two be coming I really like the ogres but I want to learn mor strategy For them

[@GrunfWorks]

00:40 ”Pretty beefy melee attack” says he while the king wields a big chunk of beef. Love it !!!

[@adamt3693]

"They call us Brutes, Savages ... but we don't care what theys calling us. Knowone can stop us from lootin, eatin, waring. What's theirs is our for the takin, do you have the guts to be a tyrant?! Ripping em limb from limb! Eatin till ya can't eat no more! The Great Maw is hungry!! Devour for the Ogre Kingdoms!"

[@Ares42]

Seems like you can do some crazy cheese by kiting with pistoleers and using cav as disruption with charges. At 54 speed there's literally no infantry that can catch them, and they even have longer range than tzeentch. While the human archers shoot a bit further, they are slow and you can just harass their melee lines.

[@quangvunhat8193]

what about the leadbelchers? were they nt available in multiplayer?

[@zharkabat]

Ogres, my lord

[@UnreasonableOpinions]

Now that the Firebelly can be shown in gameplay can we finally rename him the Spicy Boi?

[@chris9491]

After seeing the new factions I hope the undead get a rework or more unique abilities cause they are soo outclassed by chaos and ogres especially vampire counts.

[@TheSergio1021]

Dont forget that they are the only WH1 race that didnt get a WH2 vortex campaign. That's how ignored they were

[@benjaminwitzel8311]

Idk, with the healing rework I think VC might be a bit of a sleeper in terms of how strong they are now. They do deserve some actual attention from CA though.

[@chris9491]

Maybe, I do feel that at least for VC there armys is meant to be weaker then most other factions. I've heard that they make up for this through there strong lord's and magic but idk lore of vampires doesn't feel that great anymore. It needs a touch up for sure.

[@climax050]

If we don't see Nagash who will likely be a tomb king, and the one i really want to see, neferata, i'll be shocked. Neferata in particular will hopefully bring a full rework to the counts, especially her faction which for those unfamiliar with the lore, is much more about politics and spying and seduction etc etc. I'm just not sure what they could really do to the counts to make them interesting, obviously a spy and infiltration system would be ok but to me thats kinda boring and not really worth playing a counts campaign for, they need a proper rework like the beastmen, but im not sure what that looks like.

[@akiwi2827]

With AI VC probably will be awful, but they are strong IMO. They have the best generic lords in the game, most of them are awesome casters and great warriors with plenty of mounts

[@scottschiess1440]

I dont notice the gonblar trappers using their ability. It isnt castable and i dont see it in battles

[@DirtyMardi]

Easily the most fun looking faction in WH3. Will probably be the first campaign for many of us.

[@ordinaryfiver4403]

ah yes my male fantasy

[@wills6487]

I feel like cav might be the way to go for Ogre melee. Really good charge bonuses and way more armor than the foot boys. Everything except Gnoblars appears to be classified as large, so you can’t really avoid fighting anti large troops with large units anyway. Factions with anti large missiles like Jezzails will probably be a huge pain, but the rats are my favorite so :)

[@Иван-к9ь1у]

It feels that ogres roster is entirely consists of shock cav and artillery) So it's on the contrary - if you're stuck with shock cav - why take less units?

[@bammbalam]

Because the ogres are comin to get ya!!!! \○/

[@Iymarra]

OGRES, my lord.

[@EM-tx7qm]

That Leadership on most Ogres is super disappointing and I feel is very misrepresenting of the lore. Ogres aren’t Skaven or Goblins, they don’t just turn and run mid battle, that’s just absurd.

[@darthplagueis13]

Depends. The Man-eaters don't, but the Man-Eaters are also a lot more professional. Leadership in this game has always been a weird combination value of courage and discipline which is the reason why most Orcs have pretty mediocre leadership values as well even though they love fighting. With regular oger bulls I think there's the idea of them just being lazy and not feeling like fighting if it won't net them a meal anytime soon.

[@lordkroniid]

I think it's a balance compromise- with some of the nasty numbers on those units if they also were incredibly hard to break I think they would be too overtuned, and they probably chose having the good stats over having high leadership because lesser stats would be underwhelming whereas leadership can still be managed.

[@HellecticMojo]

Ogres were very mediocre ld wise in tabletop. They lived and died on the charge and were atrocious at holding the line. Also, ogres are selfish and not disciplined at all.

[@hatchmaster_5745]

You've never actually played the ogres have you? You keep listing unique bigname abilities as though they're just the generic abilities any lord can/will have. It's not a huge deal but listening to how little you understand my favorite faction makes me question how much you've been getting wrong about other factions I know less about

[@BasedBellagio]

my ogre bulls only have 18 units per and all infantry has been reduced? nerfed?

[@nicholaslvov8363]

ohhhh i love those guys, almost finished campaign playing ogres. Their camps are soooooo powerful and dudes with cannons are superb just as cavalry

[@Cikenbane]

imagine ogres who you kidnapped from their clans and raised as warriors for the chaos dwarfs or some other faction and them wearing full plate armor and well made weapons, it would be awesome and terrifying

[@Thibull]

An ogre equiped with dwarfen quality gromril armor and weapons would be just unstopable 🤣

[@harryellis910]

I think you just invented Space Marines

[@Thibull]

@@harryellis910 ... and that's how Custodes were born 🤣

[@PoorManatee6197]

The ironfist tribe is basically what you say, only thing is they trade with chaos dwarfs instead of being kidnapped

[@MrCjnine]

Initially thought goldtooth was Santa

[@paramite67]

has santa ever farted in the fireplace ?

[@MrCjnine]

@@paramite67 it’s how he breaks into an entering

[@oR3VoLUTioNz]

I'm not happy about the weapons of the Ogre bulls and the other units that use the wooden club with rocks tied to it. I understand that the meteor that wiped out most of the Ogre population, and essentially sent them back to the 'stone age'. But at this point it's ridiculous. A civilization that can forge saddles, armour, silverware, and cannons and crossbows should have the basic metallurgy skills required to outfit thier units with basic, steel/iron maces. It's not a big deal, but it just ruins the look and feel of the units to me.

[@gunnymcshoot4559]

That’s the thing though, the Ogres don’t actually have that technology. Most of what the Ogres have is stuff that they’ve looted, purchased, or have been paid with. The ones that do actually do all the higher tech crafting are the heavily repressed Gnoblars who typically die before they can do anything too meaningful. Anything the Ogres themselves actually make are the cobbled together pieces of armor and basic weapons, as they don’t bother with anything else, partially because they’re stupid, partially because it keeps them strong, mainly because they just haven’t stopped to think about it (or any other finer details) with their constant hunger and desire to escape/please the Maw.

[@LordVader1094]

Ogres don't forge cannons, they take it from others. Learn yo lore bruh

[@assassin_nr_1271]

Is it just me, or does many of those armor values seem disjointed when looking at the models?

[@singularleaf3895]

They in lore have little to no organs in their top half, it's why the Gut Plate is so important in their culture.

[@assassin_nr_1271]

@@singularleaf3895 Makes more sense then, but then their 8th edition army book seems disjointed to the lore somewhat, oh well...

[@johntheechidna1]

Thankfully, no fliers, because they'd probably break the backs of any flying creatures...and then feed on them.

[@jonny-b4954]

God, I really hate this scummy DLC day one nonsense. How fuckin insulting to your fans who buy your game on day one and don't get all the content. Just an absurd concept.

[@mortix02]

Am I the only one that slightly blew air through the nose at "arsebelcher"? @6:02

[@SpriteAndSmite]

Great, now even ogres are gonna outperform empire at pretty much everything. Immortal empires will be a mess at launch if this trend of overtuned hybrid units keeps on going.

[@DontKnow-hr5my]

2:14 Great Axe Infantry. Great. Axe. That does not like an Axe to me.