I am a 58 year old motor head (from the rich/broke Country of California) and it took me a bit to adjust to electric as well. Pretty much when the horse power to weight ratio became attractive. That has always been a driving force in my life. Quiet has its advantages as well as buckets of torque from a stand still. Cops don't seem to notice me nearly as much. I have not yet adjusted to watching people drive on the left side of the road yet, you were freaking me out with that. More and more I am appreciating not putting out exhaust fumes, I love the mountains and clean air. Zero seems a bit pricey but they are doing a great job performance wise. I think they justify the price tag, to some extent, by the high price of gas powered bikes. As battery technology continues to advance, we should see the cost drop and/or range increase as batteries are a huge factor. The cost of gas will continue to rise. The range indicators really just show you how much your riding style has changed and are sort of trivial to me. An active volt meter is the real fuel gage. Drive fast and take chances, Barclay.
@awo1fman7 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Zero SR, and the more I ride it the more I like it. It's everything from a smooth, easy cruiser to a brutally quick canyon carver. I don't have the range extender battery pack, but even though it's not light on paper it feels *MUCH* lighter than my Hyosung GT650, and is definitely *MUCH* easier to pick up if you drop it. It also doesn't have any bits sticking out to get damaged. Drop it and all you'll get is a scuffed bar end. This guy has an axe to grind and isn't honest about the riding experience. Case in point: he says how sure he is that he would beat that ICE bike to sixty and even does a burnout, but says nothing whatsoever about the actual ride other than to complain about how hooning reduces the range. Trust me, I these things are a blast to ride and well worth the price of admission, especially since there's no maintenance to speak of. No oil or oil filters, no air filters, no constant checking for bolts being loosened by vibration, no spark plugs, none of that stuff. Just plug it in - at home; you can't refuel your ICE bike there - and clean it now and then. Never have to make a special trip or detour from other trips to get gas. If you're commuting, go directly to work or home, and never stop for fuel. Plug it in at home or work and it's full and ready to go when you are, and it costs a fraction of filling your tank with fuel. In the long run, electric will be much cheaper than any comparable ICE vehicle, and it will last a lot longer and spend a lot less time in the shop. Don't underestimate electric. If you haven't given it an honest go, you really don't have a right to an opinion about it. I will say one thing, though: I wouldn't waste my time with an S or DS. They're about as quick as an SR or DSR at about 60% in custom mode. They're still fun, but it's night and day different.
@df3yt7 жыл бұрын
Mark Haury Reduce the recharge time and I'm game. Spending that amount of money purely to work and back is a bit rich for me. Please let me know that max range you have got
@awo1fman7 жыл бұрын
df3yt Most people could ride to work and back all week on a Zero. I usually don't charge every night unless it's already low (you shouldn't leave it less than 30% very long) or am doing a long ride the next day. 160 km is no problem in one go. Australia is seriously lagging the rest of the world in public charging infrastructure, so it will be a while before I try actual travel with it.
@df3yt7 жыл бұрын
Mark Haury Thanks for the insight. Like I said i love the reliability they offer in aircraft or ground use.
@cscheatum7 жыл бұрын
Mark Haury I'll be getting one soon. These are the future petrol is a thing of the past.
@APsupportsTerrorism7 жыл бұрын
Charging on these shouldn't be an issue. The batteries are like 1/4th capacity of car EVs... goes a long way to eliminate the headache of car EV charging. That's why im interested in this. Looks like you can either install the L2 charger that will run it up in ~30min or at home use 1-4 of the 120VAC add-ons which reduce charge time of 8hrs from outlet to ~2hrs. The reviewer is a bit wrong when he says it'll take 8hrs for 100%; Zero gave 30min time to 95% for the L2 charger because you should rarely/never charge to 100%. That goes for every EV. Charge 90-95% and the battery will stay healthy for a long time.
@Tyler32097 жыл бұрын
He didn't mention the fact that there are almost no maintenance costs. All you need is tires, breaks, and a belt once in a while. No oil, few moving parts, and estimated 350,000 miles or so until 80% range.
@siraff44617 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. How many people will ride it far enough to make that work compared to the average £5k ice bike?
@Tyler32097 жыл бұрын
Si Raff this bike is not in the same class as a 5k ice bike. It is more comparable to a 7-10k ice bike. If you ride as your daily commuter then it will easily pay for itself. Not worth it for weekend warriors though.
@siraff44617 жыл бұрын
In what way is it in the class of 7-10k ice's? It's sub 70hp and heavy. It would be a close thing even with something like a CB500 - pretty much the kind of bike it's going against. Then there's the mythical savings. Motorcycle.com got 90 miles from their 15.3kWh bike (effectively an £18k bike here in the UK). Let's say 100 miles for 15kWh to be nice. UK average is 14p/kWh which means that 100 miles cost £2.10 of electricity. Unleaded is around £1.15/l at the moment, giving £5.20 per gallon. Quite a difference and most bikes of that kind will only do around 50mpg realistically (far more if you're trying but who buys a bike fo that?) That means it's around £10 for the same mileage. £8 per 100 miles is a big difference. Well at least until you realise that there's £8k - £13k difference in cost. That's 100,000 miles to break even with a £10k bike or 162,500 to break even with a £5k bike. Easily pay for itself? Maybe if you were using it as a long distance courier for 5 years but even then it would be range limited and not fit for the job in the first place. Can't justify this thing on costs by any reasonable measure. I might get one anyway though because it's just cool - surely that's more a key point when buying a bike than if it costs more or we would all be on 125's?
@Tyler32097 жыл бұрын
Si Raff fuel isn't the savings cost I'm actually talking about. Fuel only would take 100,000+ miles to break even but you also can subtract the price of buying oil, oil filters, chain lube, clutches, and most other regular maintenance. Not even including the fact that your employer is going to pay your electricity bill when you plug in at work. And then factor in that the life expectancy is easily over double of any ice bike. Let's say you do 20k miles a year because it's your daily driver. That's 10 oil changes which is 20 bucks each give or take plus a few minutes of your life. So 200 extra dollars a year in things that are required. If you drop a car and ride this instead of a 5k bike then you can make it up in a few years plus it will last an extra 5-10 years after you've broken even on value. But only if you're putting on like 20k a year. Also, a 500cc bike isn't really capable of sustaining 70-80mph on the highway. This electric motorcycle is for the couple miles the battery will last.
@siraff44617 жыл бұрын
Yeah that couple hundred a year realy adds up when we're talkin about £8k difference. lol After 5 years that would make it £7k difference. Or £12k. I'm also struggling to think of any 500cc+ bike from the last 20 years which would struggle to hold 70-80mph. Honestly at the price you aren't going to break even unless you're one of the very few people who'c commute is just inside it's max range each way an youalways use it for everything else aswell. Kind of hard to imagine someone with £18k to spend would not also have a car or at least other bikes. Have a look at bikes for sale and it's pretty obvious how rare that kind of mileage is.
@KillroyX997 жыл бұрын
I have a 2015 ZERO SR and I love it. All the normal questions and answers. 1. I get 130 miles of range going "extra-legal" speeds in the Santa Cruz Mountains. 2. I charge fully in less than a hour with a aftermarket DigiNow fast chargers using a standard j-plug at a public charge station. 3. It goes over 100 MPH and accelerates off the line with no clutch or transition faster than most sport bikes. 4. Being quiet is not dangerous. I ride and commute every day. You will not get as many tickets or dirty looks. 5. The throttle response is better than any gas bike and you can tune it with the app.
@manoharchandrashekar20857 жыл бұрын
price Man we can buy small car elc
@exothermal.sprocket6 жыл бұрын
Fuel storage is still big, heavy, cumbersome, and expensive slabs of battery where most of the weight only inhibits every metric of performance. Also highly risking bursting into flames. Gas bike's fuel storage is about 90%+ energy potential by weight, the rest is a lightweight hollow cavity with a fuel pump in it. Even with less than 50% energy converted to propulsion, it's still more powerful, still fills in 1 minute, and still costs far less to purchase, and still is available in far flung places around the earth. There's also zero potential it will burst into flames unless converted to gaseous vapors first.
@thorstambaugh15206 жыл бұрын
# of Gas bikes burining in 2017 100s # of Electric bikes burning in 2017 0 Dont confuse the electric bikes with advanced tech batteries with the cheap lithium ion chinese made ones for scooters, vapes, and phones
@exothermal.sprocket6 жыл бұрын
# of people inventing statistics in 2017: too many.
@thorstambaugh15206 жыл бұрын
lol
@ch47av8r5 жыл бұрын
Having ridden this bike at the factory a few years ago, I rode away on my BMW R1200RT more than impressed with the Zero SR. Yes it took a little getting used to, maybe the first few miles with looking for a clutch handle. What is most impressive is the seamless delivery of power when applying 'throttle' via the twist grip. A novice to motorcycles could safely ride this bike which will hopefully provide new riders to the world of motorcycle riding. Once dry cell lithium batteries become viable, legacy electric bikes can then be readily upgraded with a drop-in battery upgrade to solve any range anxiety and early adapters will have enjoyed years of a maintenance free motorcycle by this time. I've replaced my gas powered hedge trimmer, lawn mower, weed whacker, leaf blower, and BMW car with an electric replacement. The motorcycle is next - only a matter of time once the battery density challenges have been solved and that day is fast approaching.
@TheDervMan7 жыл бұрын
Electric bikes can't come soon enough for me. Great video.
@davidcoro277 жыл бұрын
Great comments. Really appreciate your video. Pricing is OTT. Hopefully more competitive entrants with higher volumes will bring economies of scale and sense able prices? Zero has to work on their styling. Thank you.
@bmartin8636 жыл бұрын
Imagine a hybrid. Gas / battery assisted take offffffff. Battery assisted during the time of low RPM until gas motor achieves optimum RPM to produce max HP. The future is battery assisted motors hybridization with gas . I could see it being dangerously fast and evil as hell.
@MegaNayton6 жыл бұрын
Thats not bad really 2 and half hours for 95% aint bad when you think that he had 140 miles on full charge i believe he said if anything the 2 and half hours is a get you out the shit type of thing where if your not to far away from where you are going but wont make it with whats left in the battery pull up walk away for an hour and youll be good to go. I guess its more of a round town commuter in the fact that you'd just charge it up over night. For built up cites it would be perfect as you'd probably get most of the power back in regen
@thorstambaugh15206 жыл бұрын
Hybrids are useless. Worst of both worlds. You cant fit 2 different motors on a bike and expect any performance whatsoever
@devilsoffspring55195 жыл бұрын
@Jesse Mitchell I'm in my 40s too and think electric vehicles are clean and energy efficient, and it's a delightful bonus that they're silent. The physical bike itself is just another consumer product like a TV set or microwave oven. The cool part is the thinking behind it, and electric vehicles certainly have a lot going for them--that's why companies are going through with the effort to develop them, despite current battery tech not being quite energy-dense enough for motorbikes yet.
@andrereynolds20257 жыл бұрын
I actually got pulled over by a police officer riding a zero, didn't hear him coming. This got me extremely interested in these bikes.
@spacep0d5 жыл бұрын
Which is the same reason that drivers will dart in front of nearly-silent bikes. I understand that everything is going EV (I own a LEAF now), but on a bike I'd be far more worried in a lane-splitting state like CA. People hear me coming and they react (moving out of the way). If I could be on an EV I'd be glad to do that....but man I do worry about people darting in to me because people who pass DMV vision tests like to say 'I didn't see him, officer' when they cut us off. But, as EVs get more popular and driver aids make their way into the mainstream, maybe fewer dumbasses will be 'allowed' to kill us as their Teslas, LEAFs, etc. intervene on their behalf (and ours, as riders). Things, they are a-changin'. I welcome that change, but I have a feeling that lane-splitting is gonna be scary AF on a 30 mile commute to Hollywood on a nearly silent E-bike.
@brianaustin21045 жыл бұрын
I bought a used 2018 Zero SR two months ago. I love it. For the last 30 years, after every ICE car or bike I purchased, I created a maintenance plan. Not with this bike. I am not missing the five whole systems from an ICE: gas, air, spark, exhaust, and coolant. This Zero differs from a electric car in that it can be charged via a 110 volt wall outlet. Therefore, most every house (and your friend's house) already have charging capability for your bike. Same goes with my work - they don't have a 220 Volt car charger, but they do have a 110 volt outlet, and let me charge at work. I was choosing between a electric car or bike, and I'm glad I started with a bike. I plan to get a car in two years. You need to change a little, and think out your charging plan every two to three days, but you soon find yourself getting on the bike and loving the silence. Petrol engines are CO2 pumps. Now that there are 2 billion cars on the road, that is a lot of CO2. Yes, the bike is pricey, but I want this company to succeed, so that's where I'll put my money.
@melenriquez89857 жыл бұрын
I am an oldie. Approaching 60 in a couple of years. I have a 1.5 year old 1,500 watt 84-volt honda zoomer-x like e-MC. Before that I had a 9 month old vespa type e-MC/scooter. Been ebiking for 2.4 years or so. My ebike is simple and not high powered. It's not as fancy or costly as a Zero. Got it for about U$800 used for 3 months only, and got some lithium batts now to total the cost to U$2,000. The batts should last me 5 or more years and not worry like using those lead acid batteries. It expensive on the onset but it will be cheaper in the long run with less headaches and maintenance. The U$2,000 is what I would have paid for a gasoline Honda Zoomer-X plus a little modifications in our country. My maintenance cost per year plus gasoline probably will set me back around U$500-600. With the electric MC, I only pay around U$40 a year. Only mechanical parts usually need servicing or replacing. No change oils, filters, adjustment of timing belts, mo parts to become loose or needs adjustments periodically, no parts to wear off except the tires, brake pads, and maybe the axle bearing. No massive heat build up. U$500-600 may not be much in the USA, but it is a lot in our country. But the biggest shock is the cost of paying the electric company only U$40 or less for powering this for one year (at about 10,000km plus mileage). And yes, we charge at home. With the 25aH and 15ah sets. I can go 110-130km range with these 2. I usually just use around 25-40km per day, sometimes less. And it takes maybe 2 hours to 4 hours to charge with such short usage. I just leave it at night to charge, or just plug it in whenever I want to even for a 1 hour charge. Even if I don't charge it, I can go 3-4 days with this uncharge. But I charge them when the bike is idle just to be able to cover any contingencies. It's not doing anything anyway, so just plug it in! Electric bikes may not be for many oldies. It is for the next generation. They are more in numbers and they know that power/torque and speed can be had in relative silence or low noise/sound. Maintenance is cheaper too. When we are all gone, few of the next generation will know of combustion engine motorcycle. And cars. And trucks, Practically almost any vehicle on the ground (maybe even in water or even in the air). It's hard to teach old dogs new tricks. That is why I went full steam ahead with this. My body may be old, but my heart is young. Even more, it's just plain common sense and practical. IF ones ego or bias can't be swayed, then the pocket (savings) and ease of maintenance (literally 1-5% effort) is the deciding factor for me.
@icefang25507 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice. I'm a newbie to bikes, I hope to get an ebike soon.
@pravinbhaipatel80087 жыл бұрын
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@YarikSychov5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment. I fully agree with you. All the best!
@gabrielmessam23745 жыл бұрын
Zoomer for the boomer
@brewedawakening65777 жыл бұрын
An electric motorcycle pulled up to a gas station : Gas attendant " Fill 'er up? Rider: "No, tanks"
@jonesjao54416 жыл бұрын
Mack Cullete youean No tanks
@exothermal.sprocket6 жыл бұрын
You've got tanks. Big, heavy, cumbersome, expensive tanks that fill with tons of electrons which weight virtually nothing. And when those tanks are empty, they are still big, heavy, cumbersome, and expensive. But don't worry, over time those tanks lose capacity to fill. So they are still big, heavy, cumbersome, and expensive and even less effective the more you use them.
@thorstambaugh15206 жыл бұрын
Almost as big ,heavy and cumbersome as a huge inefficient engine. And considering the life of the batteries and motor is well over 300000 miles they will still be going while your big cumbersome motor will be rusting
@exothermal.sprocket6 жыл бұрын
Even with your efficient motors, you still can't stretch a battery to come anywhere near the power, range, and ease of fillup of a gas engine. Gas engines keep getting better and better. Batteries will need to make a monumental improvement just to keep gas engines in sight on the horizon.
@thorstambaugh15206 жыл бұрын
A gas motorcycle pulled up to a charging station. BOOM!
@svenomick58577 жыл бұрын
great review. these bike are only going to get better and better.
@CodeZombie7 жыл бұрын
Believe me, in the last five years alone they really have...!
@exothermal.sprocket6 жыл бұрын
Gasoline powered technology keeps getting better and better. If we only look at electric we'll fail to see the comparative ratio which is roughly the same as it was in the 1930's. Same manufacturing cost ratios, same purchase cost ratios, same time to recharge ratios, same comparative travel range ratios. Just getting better and better? Another 85 years it could be a little better.
@thorstambaugh15206 жыл бұрын
Wow you must be in a different world. Gas engines are limited in efficiency due to massive loss via heat and mechanical transfer. Electrics are more than double the efficiency and the technology is progressing in leaps and bounds. Batteries and motors are good for well over 300000 miles, a figure few gas motors could even pray for without massive repair. A one hour charge time compares favorably to a overnight trickle charge in the 30s for and old lead acid battery holding 1/40 the power of these. If gas technology was perfect it would still be 1/2 as efficient as electric.
@exothermal.sprocket6 жыл бұрын
Your world is a cult-driven world that doesn't care about facts. Batteries are your nemesis and they are garbage compared to liquid fuel.
0:10 Also Most Prius is not an EV. Only a tiny fraction are the Plug In Hybrids. Majority of Prius are entirely dependant on Petrol.
@DiscoFang7 жыл бұрын
Yes!! Unbelievable how many of the EV reviewers get tongue tied (brain-tied?) over this. What's funny in this instance is the reviewer corrected himself as his mouth actually started to say electric! The one time in the video he called it Electric was when he referred to it's intergration with an App. Haha the one time electronic would have been an accurate enough synonym. Please, tho', overall fantastic review.
@fredecks46417 жыл бұрын
I owned a 2013 Zero FX for awhile, and sold it to buy a Yamaha Super Tenere 1200 (I wanted to tour Mexico by motorbike). I've been missing the Zero FX ever since, and may buy another. It pulled harder than my 1200 does. And that's just the FX; the SR is much stronger and faster. Electric bikes are super fun!!!
@diemman707 жыл бұрын
I've got 6000 miles on mine and I've loved every mile of my nasty commute especially blowing past the 100,000$ Porsches stuck in traffic. Live free or die!
@stans52706 жыл бұрын
A Schwinn would do the same.
@faheemsaiyed80947 жыл бұрын
I think it looks bloody cool. Styling is amzing, simplistic.
@sneekylinux7 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a time back in the day when my dad said "those Japanese bikes are rubbish, they will never take off" with me on my Suzuki GT250 X7, funny how history repeats itself....nuff said.
@mikeclancy48817 жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot of reviews on this bike. This is hands down the best one. Thanks.
@BikeWorldTVshow7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike
@Hirotoro46927 жыл бұрын
mike clancy missenden flyer did a better review
@danmurphy19947 жыл бұрын
'Which is basically witchcraft' Lmao
@jbviajero7 жыл бұрын
Funny comment but not true. The reviewer doesn't know how range estimation works. They use your current consumption to estimate range. So, my stupidly thirsty V8 can 'regenerate' double the range if I stop getting into it around the city and start cruising on the highways. I'm surprised a journalist has confused regeneration with current-average range estimation software. That's what go me LMAO.
@danmurphy19947 жыл бұрын
Justin Buckland I noticed that as well. Most people are starting to catch onto EV's 'smart' range calculators. Just a couple years ago established journalists with sections of magazines to themselves were reacting to EV range performance just like this but now many have caught on. Not everyone though, clearly. On the electric motorcycle front I will say that there haven't been too many popular models yet so hopefully with more to come, people will appreciate the range calculators more all encompassing approach to yielding results and have some mechanical sympathy? No..Electrical sympathy after considering all factors in regards to the range they're getting. One must realize that flogging a petrol engine is going to decrease fuel economy yes but it won't have the same detrimental effect as doing just that to an electric motor where cooling advances haven't been made to the level they have with internal combustion thus creating this choice EV motorists have: Go fast? Or Go far?
@islaws45897 жыл бұрын
Dan Murphy You're bang on with the range estimation but they do regenerate off throttle - regen braking. In urban driving my Nissan Leaf will get 25% of its range from the regen braking. I enjoyed the review but not being a biker (have license but never had the pleasure of owning one!) noticed he was coming at it differently than I expected. What I've noticed with the Leaf is that it isn't a car in the petrol/diesel sense. You have to relearn a few habits to get the best out of it, but once you do you're pretty much evangelical. I'd be interested to see the results of a long term test to see if the same is true of bike/biker. The charge time sounded disappointing - worse than a Leaf from a 3 pin socket. Have read somewhere though that the Zero batteries have an amazing lifespan so that could be why!
@thorstambaugh15206 жыл бұрын
EV range is simple. City driving is the longest, Cut it in half for highway. Wind resistance is the killer. Zero is actually pretty spot on for their estimates. The trouble with an electric is it is so hard not to crank that torque at every stop lol
@kignacio3 жыл бұрын
Yeah range estimation by a computer is something that most don’t understand whether ICE or electric. Same people think eco mode will magically produce more miles of range vs sport. The battery capacity will give what you ask and nothing more.
@ChrisTian-lf2oh7 жыл бұрын
Good and honest review. Whether we like it or not, electric bikes are here to stay, . A bit more styling and some time to accept electric vehicles, Ill prolly own one. Also, you got another subscriber. Cheers from Sweden
@baqcasanke7 жыл бұрын
Christian Andersson agreed. I think these look like cheap shit. I wish they looked better... and were 1/3 the cost
@christianweller42887 жыл бұрын
Factor in the the low servicing costs (tyres, brake pads and new belt at 40k km)... I'd say it's close to doable.. Stick some PV on the roof and fuel is almost free... For those people saying the power is generated by coal anyway... ever thought about how much electricity is used to make petrol? Nope didn't think so.
@joevidya7 жыл бұрын
This bike he's reviewing is $16k, you're not going to see a dime in savings before this thing starts to have serious maintenance issues.
@dirkbruere7 жыл бұрын
First up, within 5 years we will have Lithium-metal or Lithium-Sulphur batteries with 3x the range, or same range with 1/3 the price
@exothermal.sprocket6 жыл бұрын
Even when current gas engines convert less than 50% gas energy potential into propulsion, it's still a ridiculously better means of storing fuel energy per weight, than a big, heavy, cumbersome, and expensive hunk of battery (no matter what it's made out of) with terrible energy density, regardless of electric motors being 97% efficient or whatever they are. Where on a gas bike, the space inside a thin-wall metal tank is 100% used by liquid fuel with high density energy, the space inside the confines of a battery is mostly wasted by performance-sapping material. Whereas a gas bike can fill and empty that entire space quickly, not so with a battery bike. Open the battery lid, stick the electric nozzle in, and fill it up with electrons in 1 minute? Not really. All this stupid nonsense about reducing carbon footprints? Just about everything in the universe is packed with carbon, even other planets.
@exothermal.sprocket6 жыл бұрын
@Rebecca Whitson "One might really begin to wonder if perhaps there is a deliberate corporate initiated (and/or government supported) effort to limit such tech from making it to the market...." I've looked into the technological discoveries of former Stanley Meyer, a Christian inventor who developed a hydrogen generator which converted everyday tap water into hydrogen gas at the volumes necessary to feed a standard ICE. Today all hydrogen tech focuses on converting H2O to electrical energy, storing it and using it from batteries in a standard e-power vehicle, which I think is needlessly complicated and bulky. You're right about inventions and discoveries (mostly by brilliant unaccredited garage tinkerers) being forcefully canned and destroyed, prevented from ever being implemented in the mainstream. COULD be that such is going on in the battery/storage realm of research, I'm not sure. I do know that electric vehicles were considered along side Henry Ford's ICE powered vehicle as early as the proposal for the Model T. It's nothing new. I've also researched the role the common energy power plants play in generating global weather. You'll never ever see a common power plant of any remarkable size shut down because of it.
@AngelArm11107 жыл бұрын
For having come from a petrol head this was a very fair review. Thanks for taking the time, and I particularly enjoyed that little witchcraft comment
@philtripe7 жыл бұрын
im getting one of these for my next bike...i use my bike mainly for around town small errands so the thought of never going to a gas station and just leaving my bike plugged in(i do now anyway) so it wouldnt cost me a dime more than it does now. im constantly charging my battery at 2 to 10 amps
@thorstambaugh15206 жыл бұрын
If you get one you will find yourself actually riding for the sheer joy. They are that much fun
@dukeinlondon7 жыл бұрын
I like the 'not sold on it but what is good is really good' tone of the review.
@bernardomotard7 жыл бұрын
a Prius isn't really an electronic car..
@KillroyX997 жыл бұрын
Its gasoline -hybrid electric. The Prius Prime or Plug-in can charge with electricity and drive around (in many cases) without burning gasoline at all. Its not a BEV, but its a PHEV or a HEV.
@gregripp5 жыл бұрын
It's electric motor is electric, the battery management system (BMS) and motor controller is electronic. The ICE's control system is electronic along with many other systems such as brakes and transmission. Lots of electronics in vehicles today, but the primary movers (motors/generators) are electric. Hope this helps.
@glenr8346 жыл бұрын
Two things, the range increasing from riding is just because the last known riding style calculated that it had 130odd miles left, and you rode in less aggressively than it’s estimations. You cannot gain energy whilst using it like that, unless you started at the top of a rather large hill and finished at the bottom without going back up, and also related to this I’d imagine that the 74 miles was also calculated from your aggressive riding, and I’m sure it would increase if you drove it carefully so you had possibly 80-100 miles lect
@llllIIIlllIIIIl7 жыл бұрын
Dear zero, The specs on the bike are awesome. Now please make them look better. And a full fairing option would be nice too!
@Jeff-NORCAL7 жыл бұрын
Loved the smokey burnout
@ega01177 жыл бұрын
With all due respect California does not have pots and pots of cash that state is almost broke
@himynameistaylor6 жыл бұрын
I think he meant cash in start of companies? I dunno
@exothermal.sprocket6 жыл бұрын
$21,178,203,000,000 US national debt (at the time of my post) might be a better number to look at.
@MrZrryan26 жыл бұрын
Just because a STATE GOVERNMENT has a rather hefty debt (and continues to run a deficit), this does NOT necessarily mean that the state is not absolutely flush with cash/tech/investment... think bigger picture. Debt and deficit aside, California is very rich in cash/tech/investment. THAT being said, it's a bloody shame the Liberals are f'ing up the place.
@golnectr6 жыл бұрын
Those libs and all those other coastal lib states are generating the funds to carry all those conservative central states. It's not like California gained it's 6th largest economy in the world status with neoconservative idealism. California has always been the liberal Petrie dish state and it happens here first. How can the libs be ruining it when we've always been the most liberal state in the republic? Check the Whitehouse to see what's really going to ruin things. It sure as shit isn't electric vehicles and protecting the environment.
@exothermal.sprocket6 жыл бұрын
Clean up all the breathing air, but fill the same air with the latest electric EMF/EMR pollution and get cancer anyway.
@super73uk5 жыл бұрын
What a great video - Full of info & very interesting to watch! We have an electric push bike (shown in thumbnail) but only get around 80 miles of range. Thank you very much.
@KillroyX997 жыл бұрын
"Ignore the Power" Power should never be ignored, because the transmission and the wheels and sprockets multiply torque. Power is all about quantity. Torque is about quality.
@KillroyX997 жыл бұрын
That being said, EVs are faster with the same amount of power rating because of the minimal amount of rotating mass, clutch, gears and good 'quality' off the line.
@ZKawasaki-ny9ju5 жыл бұрын
The future is amazing! Great video.
@AJTalks7 жыл бұрын
Where are the god damn fairings? Zero themselves said that it would increase range from 20-30%. Why would they not add them?
@awo1fman7 жыл бұрын
Alex Johnson Because these days the trend is everybody *removing* the fairings from their bikes. Not to mention all the other stupid things they are doing to their bikes. Ugly is in, I guess. But you can at least get a decent windshield for a Zero.
@Lecruque7 жыл бұрын
For my daily highway commute this thing isn't an option without fairings. Hope they bring out an adventure or Touring model soon! (driving a 1200gs adventure now)
@donandnanelmore82787 жыл бұрын
They have a moto version and a dual sport version. Check out the KZbin of the Zero in a dirt bike race.
@ableac7 жыл бұрын
Zero are aiming at the wrong market, sports bike riders like noise and ripping up and down the gears. Commuter riders and touring bike riders don't tend to fit loud exhausts and are used to bikes that weigh more than sports bikes. My Nissan Leaf can charge up on a rapid charger in a fraction of the time this bike takes. Until they bring out a touring version with the ability to use rapid chargers, I won't be visiting a Zero showroom.
@awo1fman7 жыл бұрын
Alex Johnson Since every one of your assertions is wrong, I'm not going to bother debunking them point by point. I will, however, point out that you've contradicted yourself and basically said that Zero's target customer is exactly who they are going to get. In other words, they're doing it exactly right. Also, since you obviously aren't on the market for an electric bike of any kind, your opinion is irrelevant. If you haven't personally ridden one - with an open mind - you don't have a right to an opinion. In fact, no one ever has a right to a biased and uninformed opinion.
@joem5277 жыл бұрын
when I first found out about these bikes I didn't even know something like this existed this was obviously before the craze for electric vehicles was as big as today. At the time I wasn't in to electric cars at all I thought they we're boring and had no character and I still think that but when I saw these bikes they instantly grabbed my attention they weren't obnoxious like most electric vehicles are they weren't painted in some insane color and above all they didn't bombard you with anything that said "eco friendly" or "zero emissions" closest thing to that was the brand name they had a simple design that looks great although slightly plain is pretty unique. At last I have found a electric vehicle with actual character and even though it is pretty expensive your still not dropping 100,000$ on a tesla p100D for the same or even more fun. So all I have to say now is this is one of the very best bikes I have ever seen and I'm thankful I found out about Zero Motorcycles.
@thorstambaugh15206 жыл бұрын
Take a test ride and then you will really understand the appeal! lol
@deputydd43647 жыл бұрын
I've had a go in a Tesla S and Chinese electric scooters. I just like big acceleration or two wheels - the powerplant is secondary. I wouldn't buy one of these in 2017 but the next generation ones could be awesome. Also, it's guys like the old guys in the video that mean we don't yet have hoverbikes, they fear anything new and stifle progress!
@larrikinaxe34247 жыл бұрын
I ride a V4 with a loud pipe, it lets others know where I am - I've had a number of road bikes and have to say that the quiet one's placed me at more risk of injury. I believe sound needs to be engineered into these motorcycles, particularly off road as we need to hear what's coming.
@dkaloupis755 жыл бұрын
You must be insane spending 20.000 GBP for that thing....no f@cking way. Drop it down by 7000 and maybe then will consider it...
@ProfitSlim5 жыл бұрын
You can always purchase one used. 2014 models are going for $6-7000
@JohnMFlores7 жыл бұрын
Nice to get a British perspective on the Zero. FYI, there is no battery regen from the brakes, just rolling off the throttle.
@CodeZombie7 жыл бұрын
You can program it to regen off the brake lever as well. That's how my Zero SR is set up. 0% throttle regen, 100% brakes regen.
@JohnMFlores7 жыл бұрын
Fair point. I sit corrected. But the distinction that I want to make is that when you apply the front brake, the regen is not happening at the front wheel but rather via the motor - it's akin to dragging the rear brake. This is not a big deal in most situations but it does subtly affect weight shift under braking. In sport riding it is good to get the weight shifted smoothly to the front contact patch to increase stopping power. In racing, it's not uncommon to see the rear wheel completely off the ground under hard braking. There's no regen happening then ;)
@CodeZombie7 жыл бұрын
Agreed on that point, though I actually make use of this feature. I have my front brake lever setup so that it engages regen before the front calipers engage. That way a tiny amount of pressure on my front lever engages the regen on the rear wheel without any braking force on the front wheel, then as I apply more pressure my actual brakes on the front wheel engage. It takes a bit of tinkering to get set up nicely, but it makes for some really smooth progressive dual braking. :)
@ml27997 жыл бұрын
Hi John, another excellent review, I saw one of these at the NEC and balked at the price, as with all this technology its priced beyond the common man, at half the price you'd think twice. Do the maths: spend half as much on a very respectable motorcycle and (for the average rider), how many miles could you travel on £8k's worth of fuel! I respect the technology but...
@gasdive7 жыл бұрын
Mark Lincoln People buy the six cylinder BMW 1600GTL because it's smooth, but they're like a farm implement compared to a Zero, but a Zero is much cheaper.
@robertp4577 жыл бұрын
A Zero is not that advanced of a motorcycle especially compared to a K1600.
@awo1fman7 жыл бұрын
Mark Lincoln If you actually did the maths, you would find that it won't take long for your "cheaper" ICE bike to get more expensive than the electric, and those costs will only go up as the bike ages and parts wear out. With electric you pay up front, but running and maintenance costs are very low, and can be very close to zero if you have your own solar or wind power. ICE vehicles are like computer printers: it's not the printer that is the major cost, it's consumables (ink or toner and paper). So do yourself a favor and do *realistic* maths, not deliberately unrealistic ones.
@gasdive7 жыл бұрын
Derek Jonez Try riding them both. Really, I'm not kidding, the BMW is a farm implement in comparison. You haven't experienced seamless torque until you've ridden one. Reviewers talk about bikes feeling "electric", but there's nothing in the petrol world that compares.
@thorstambaugh15206 жыл бұрын
How many bikes do you need to buy or rebuild to go 300000 miles?
@shaneweightman7 жыл бұрын
When the range is better and the prices come down I'd be interested,, I'm in me 50s been riding since I was 12 had a lot from the bottom to the top in power and cc ,,, would like to try one ,, great review Shane uk
@hammerhome78796 жыл бұрын
At $10 a gallon , I can't see why anyone would not see the point...
@stans52706 жыл бұрын
Gas is @ $2.45 a gallon. It takes 5 minutes to refuel and be on your way. What's your point?
@EnforcedCrowd6 жыл бұрын
It's $1.80 a gallon where I live now LOL
@romanval696 жыл бұрын
@@stans5270 Pretty sure he's talking about UK/EU gas prices where it's equal to around $7/gal USD
@spacep0d5 жыл бұрын
@@EnforcedCrowd *now ;) CA gas is reasonable now, but I don't think it'll remain reasonable for long. It hit nearly $5 a gallon for a while there.
@simonmerrin36526 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video and very informative. I'm old school with my bikes, but I can see the virtues and future of electric bikes and cars. I would def have the bike .
@VeeFour7 жыл бұрын
how Much!? I'll be interested once they're mainstream enough to have a sensible price tag. However, if the future is electric then I'd rather ride an electric bike than no bike
@joem5277 жыл бұрын
VeeFour unfortunately the price is pretty high but if you're in to fast bikes the ls218 is the fastest bike in the world and it's electric it's even more expensive than the zero but it cost about the same as top of the line sport bikes and again it's the fastest bike in the world
@telocities7 жыл бұрын
The regenerative braking did NOT increase the battery power. It is the electronic distance calculator that changed your range based on the fact you were in ECO mode at the start. So whoever had your bike before you was going full sport/high drain for most of his/her ride and brought the distance down on the calculation. I have this in my I-miev Mitsubishi if I drive for awhile in eco/hyper mileage speed it can show up to 80 mile available (60 miles is official range). Also you might want to point out on the Zero motorcycle that the battery pack is rated for 300,000 miles. You have no oil changes, no gas station cost. It will be full every morning is you remember to plug it in at night. Just get on a go, that is one less worry in the morning unlike regular bikes where there may be battery issues or starter issues...or lots of other potential issues to make you late to work or whatever. So $18k for regular bike is a lot, but I think that you have to look at electric in a different way.
@telocities7 жыл бұрын
I would like to add this article for your consideration on cost. gas2.org/2015/08/07/electric-motorcycle-costs-performance-vs-gas-motorcycle-costs-performance/ If depreciation is taken out of equation (because of speed of electric evolution electric vehicles depreciate faster) electric bike will save you money, some times a lot, in less then 10yrs because cost of ownership is so low. The article was comparing the Zero, which is expensive. How about the new Tork motorcycle from India? Only 3.4Kw battery, weak motor and just 100km/h cruise speed for 100km, but it costs about $2000 (yes $2k). If you need a commuter bike to work there would be nothing cheaper. It is the equivalent of 400+ miles per gallon U.S. price. Now I have no idea of quality of the Indian bike, all I'm suggesting is electric bikes with smaller motors going like the Zero in eco mode all the time are coming and will be a lot cheaper. Making the electric bike I think the best option for commuters in those locations where weather isn't to cold. As for distance issue, I personally have a electric 2012 vehicle that only goes about 60 miles. For 95% of trips it is perfect, I only use a old gas car maybe once or twice a month. I think people hopping into their super bikes and cars have this feeling of "I can go ANYWHERE and get there faster then anyone!" and proceed to nearest grocery store for milk or the nearest highway and pick their place in the traffic jam. Reality is, if we can change the way we think and how we travel, electric will be better for all of us.
@troy9er7 жыл бұрын
I fly all electric RC airplanes and helicopters. They are more powerful and faster than gas engine planes. I don't know how I'd feel about an electric motorcycle but I know I prefer electric RC planes by a Hugh margin!!!
@rpgfightin4ever7 жыл бұрын
Lithium-ion is a fire of 21st century
@michaelhayward75725 жыл бұрын
Best review of an EV m/c yet. As per usual John.
@quigonjay97 жыл бұрын
It's the same story as electric cars - until technology is such that these cars and bikes are about half the price they are now, they are still out of reach for your average Joe
@gasdive7 жыл бұрын
quigonjay9 It's the same or less than a lot of other bikes. This is their top of the range. Top of the range BMW is close to twice this price. Top of the range Ducati is over twice. Top Honda is more than 5 times as much as this bike.
@HockeyVictory667 жыл бұрын
quigonjay9 really! This bike is about 18k. The most expensive Honda bike fully loaded is about $30k. Not sure where you are getting your numbers from.
@joem5277 жыл бұрын
quigonjay9 this company can go two ways in the future they can be the pioneers of affordable electric motorcycles or pull something like Ducati and create a new type of motorcycles and as technology for this particular type of stuff gets better they will dich the affordable thing and have 20k 15k bikes
@joem5277 жыл бұрын
I just realized the base price for that bike is already 15k. sorry about that.
@gasdive7 жыл бұрын
Brett Vogel I just looked up the price of the most expensive Honda road bike. It's 137000 pounds. About 8 times more than a Zero with every option ticked.
@07zx14White7 жыл бұрын
Very well sorted and well spoken review my friend. You offered many angles and outlooks and covered the bases. One of the better bike reviews in general to be honest. Thank you sir I enjoyed that. I myself shuttered at the idea of my beloved internal combustion engines dying out (still do actually) but I am getting more and more excited about trying out an EV bike. Cheers
@BikeWorldTVshow7 жыл бұрын
Cheers Kevin
@timus11117 жыл бұрын
Two things gave me an electric shock ... Torque figure and it's PRICE !
@mrjamesnone80715 жыл бұрын
how much was the price
@chiguy_7 жыл бұрын
There is something to say about the feel of shifting.. however there is also something to say about just focusing on driving and not having to worry about anything else.. as for styling I am not a huge fan.. obviously changing some cosmetic stuff wouldn't be hard but I think that would be a great everyday driver, then on the weekend get yourself that cafe racer, R1,GSXr,big harley or whatever, and use that on the weekend to just run through that petrol.
@stevemulcahy50147 жыл бұрын
Chi Guy I love shifting. But I understand why it's necessary with an ICE (to keep it making power as road speed changes). With an electric motor, it just isn't required and putting its output through a gearbox is just going to sap a bit extra power from it for nothing of real use.
@zmz3057 жыл бұрын
This is a cool bike. The only problem is for that price, I can buy a 1000cc supersport which is much cooler.
@CuriousSeeker097 жыл бұрын
Its much cooler Yes, but do take the cost of petrol/gas price and the periodic maintenance that a IC engine bike requires into account. Also do a small calculation of price of electricity and look for a term of around 5 Years of your commute you will get your answer.
@zmz3057 жыл бұрын
The total cost of 5 years may differ a lot, but if you divide it into per month, it probably is not a number you would care a lot :). But of course, it is distance dependent. In my case, I drive around 150 miles per month. Moreover, I think people who spend so much money into adult toys would not care about that amount of cost, but care more about how cool the toys are. The performance for this one is enough to have fun, but for the same price, it would be great if they could make this into a much better looking bike. For now it looks like a $5000 bike.
@CuriousSeeker097 жыл бұрын
Yes i agree, this is an overpriced bike, and the design doesn't do justice to the price charged.
@donandnanelmore82787 жыл бұрын
I think new technology always costs more. As the technology standardizes and numbers sold ramps up, I think prices will drop. Remember, Tesla is supposed to come out with a $35K sedan soon.
@zmz3057 жыл бұрын
Dabendra Singh Model s has 100k worth performance, the technology it has worth way more than some super cars. Model 3 also has 35k worth of performance and way more technology than other 35k cars in the market. And they both look amazing. But this bike I just don't feel it worth 15k in anyway.
@bmanagement46577 жыл бұрын
had my zero s since 2015. love it. just need a level 2 charger with a quick charge pack. not great for apartment living though unless you have easy safe access to a plug. i definitely need a garage after going 6 months without.
@raymondbrower78946 жыл бұрын
Jeff Shoemaker depending on the apartment. Some will let you bring it inside (like a bicycle) because there's no oil or gas. My garden apartment has it's own entrance and I keep it inside.
@TheNature1015 жыл бұрын
Petrol bikes and cars are dinosaurs... good riddance...
@SimonAmazingClarke6 жыл бұрын
A couple of quick points. you normally rapid charge a battery to 80%, that can be very quick, over 80% the charge starts struggling to get into the battery, that is why they slow down and take all night to get to 100%. The second thing I want to mention is something that happened to me last year. I was at a car show in the EV area selling my book when I started chatting to a guy from the Australian Morris Minor club. I asked him what he thought of the idea of converting a Morris Minor to electric. His response really surprised me. he thought it was a brilliant idea, in fact they were already converting one. basically they love the car but hate the engine. It is heavy and under powered. Great review
@blipco57 жыл бұрын
Talk to me when they have a 400 mile range. Til then it's useless to me.
@lilsammywasapunkrock7 жыл бұрын
blipco5 normal bikes don't have 400 miles range. My 750 gets 100-150 miles on a 3 gallon tank depending on how I ride it.
@blipco57 жыл бұрын
Lilsammy.....That's true but it only takes five minutes to refuel a gas engine MC. It takes hours to charge an electric motorcycle.
@lilsammywasapunkrock7 жыл бұрын
blipco5 takes less then an hour for a 75% charge with the proper charger. Something like 92% of Americans drive less then a 100 miles round trip. It easily work work fine for anything except a crossed country drive. With a wall outlet, 95% in 4 hours. With lithium technology, the last 20% of the charge has to be done slowly to prevent an overvotage situation. The rest comes really quickly. As the power grid become more common, there will be less gas powered cars around.
@Hirotoro46927 жыл бұрын
Why does everyone at the bar at what their current bike does. Never slightly below the bar. Always the exact same. Nobody is willing to compromise.
@elpasao87806 жыл бұрын
Will Davis don’t worry, very soon they’ll have no choice.
@tjwalkup71554 жыл бұрын
Like the review, sad you weren’t won over to electric. It would make me happy to know I am not tossing poison on some four year olds lungs. We are in this world together...I hope we clean it up for each other. Cheers!
@johnsonx24267 жыл бұрын
So the future is for rich people only 😐
@spiritusinfinitus7 жыл бұрын
Nah, it's the same as any new technology. The early adopters pay for the development costs and if the technology works, economies of scale come into play and everyone gets cheaper products as a result. I remember when an entry level desktop computer that sounded like a jet taking off was £2k - and you can now pick up a basic Windows 10 laptop for £200.
@Osprey19947 жыл бұрын
You don't understand how the world works do you... The rich subsidize new tech until it can be sold in an affordable form. Mercedes Benz and Audi a great example of the trickle down effect. The top end vehicles will cost you an arm and a leg but over time the tech in those vehicles will make it's way down to the cheapest cars that they sell.
@placerdemaio7 жыл бұрын
the price will drop like hell, it is because the battery, germany are doing their gigafactory to, so very soon will be ok.
@caseywiseman52867 жыл бұрын
Ali Bashir yep, u c now? always has been, why any different nw? I'm gonna burn gas n my cycle tell I cant, then think about selling something, getting another job and then loan to get an SR, not!!
@brians48now7 жыл бұрын
People said the same thing about the big screen led tv when they first came out and look at the price now. You can get a 55 inch smart 4k these days for $500. They were close to $3000 not long ago. The smart phone I use cost just over $100. 5 years ago a phone with maybe 20% of the features was in the $600 range.
@revengerking47987 жыл бұрын
Hello sir this is great beginning of electric bike
@samdeur7 жыл бұрын
Living in the Netherlands in a city I absolutely hate loud bikes standing across the street at a stoplight taking of and making a hell of a noise doing it. I always go up with my hand a point my pinky at them stating they are compensating for a small Pe...s Please do other humans a favor and just buy silent bikes wear headphones and blast your old bike sounds in your head without bothering the rest of the world with your sound pollution
@samdeur7 жыл бұрын
Living in a city my ears thank you. I'm not a bike rider but these e-bikes are really appealing to me. They should have a special e-bike license no need to learn all that manual gear shifting I will never drive a regular bike anyway btw 41yr old
@darkswami7 жыл бұрын
TuxKey THE reason for me to not repair my rusted through exhaust is the louder you are the better the chance of getting noticed by the blind drivers all around. Especially since the holes are in the FRONT part of the muffler. I am afraid that with an electric bike that really is a huge problem.
@samdeur7 жыл бұрын
i have to admit after seeing a couple of episodes of moto madness on how stupid car drivers can be i somewhat understand the need to be loud. it's got me scared to even get a bike licence.
@yannikmeister7 жыл бұрын
Why does everyone instantly think of compensating for something if you just do what you love. couldnt ride or drive an electric vehicle. its boring, nothing to work on, so few moving parts. its like a toy
@manliocorradi22216 жыл бұрын
Lol... we have to be so careful when we speak in public. One little mistake becomes a long run of discredit. But let’s be real. He is not a politician. Just hopefully a good biker.
@scrom297 жыл бұрын
No shifting, no character, no good sounds and charge times. Electric bikes rub me the wrong way.
@scrom297 жыл бұрын
Yeah 20 mins of fun and an 8 hour charge time is.
@scrom297 жыл бұрын
Yake N Bake They need to do something. People get aftermarket pipes so they can be heard. I'm just worried more riders will be hit by cagers who don't hear them.
@lennardspit7 жыл бұрын
Yake N Bake so your point is that even the loudest pipes don't make drivers notice you?
@CockatooDude7 жыл бұрын
Well for you maybe, I love the fact that this thing is quiet. And it does make some noise, it's just not obnoxiously loud. Think about it, you can romp around at night being a hooligan and bother pretty much no one.
@Ander96Alex7 жыл бұрын
"Zero" is an oddly fitting name for it.
@DominicVictoria6 жыл бұрын
Oh the Chinese 125. You will always be with us
@supersnot46 жыл бұрын
I test rode a DS and an SR a few months ago. I quickly decided I will own a DSR by the end of this year.
@JL-kg2zl5 жыл бұрын
You can't take these bikes on any type of long trips and you can forget about camping. I don't know about other motorcyclists but I love the sound and rumble of my exhaust.
@halofour017 жыл бұрын
I got to ride one of these and I was deeply impressed. It felt almost as quick as my B-King and the silence was cool.
@There-Is-No-Virus7 жыл бұрын
Very good point that it does not look as good as it could be. They are not trying to be different enough in looks when they could and should. It would be nice to rock up somewhere and be noticed that the bike is very different.
@donandnanelmore82787 жыл бұрын
I think they are trying to make a bike that appeals to people who already ride and not make it too weird looking. Trying to just appeal to people who already "get" electric vehicles is just too small a market.
@FredlocksAsher20126 жыл бұрын
nice review bro! love your style, awesome work
@icefang25507 жыл бұрын
I see people complaining about the price. The thing is, the amount of money you'll save every year and every year you have your bike is phenominal. Every year, gas fees for a bike may be around... let's say, with regular fillups, around 250$ USD, depending on how often you ride, how agressively you ride, how much you fill up on, gas station prices, etc. Also, ICE bikes need regular checkups, and if some moving mechanical part breaks, a trip to the garage may be another 500/600$ USD. Again, that's an esitmate, depending on your garage of choice, what part needs tuning, etc. All in all, 750-850$USD a year for ICE bikes, not to mention maintennance for bike chains/belts. Add that up however many years you have your bike, plus maybe an extra 100 dollars after every year because, let's face it, every bike ages. In the long run, 15k on an ebike can save you a lot of headaches and pain for a longer time.
@andgate20005 жыл бұрын
The noise on an ic bike is a safety feature. Especially in a car blind spot.
@BoseBish7 жыл бұрын
Great review, although I wonder if the front break lever can be switched over to the left-hand side ,where the clutch usually is? Reason I ask is being a Leftie (Left-Handed predominantly, even though am ambidextrous) it would seem more convenient.
@Atreyas7 жыл бұрын
I'm sure any reservoir based clutch lever would work, you'd just have to sort the switch for the light. Personally I think it'd be a terrible idea if you're used to riding a normal bike. Your muscle memory would be trying to brake on the right side in a panic stop and you'll have no lever where it should be. Also the accidental braking when your clutch instinct kicks in.
@Hirotoro46927 жыл бұрын
Atreyas plenty of people have modified their zeros to have left hand brake.
@silverstar42895 жыл бұрын
Good review love the retro helmet.
@richreynolds36475 жыл бұрын
Very informative, humorous, and helpful review. I'm keenly interested in electric bikes, but just no there yet... Have multiple gas bikes, Honda, KTM, Yamaha, Suzuki, Ducati, and still love riding gas...
@BudahOfBirmingham5 жыл бұрын
The high purchase price is offset by the lack of expensive maintenance and low costs to fill up. Brakes last ages and it's much smoother than any ice bike. Budah of Birmingham
@ianarellano66327 жыл бұрын
I think they filmed some of this in San Jose and Scott's Valley.
@BrianFrichette5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to have your take on the SR/F. Seems much more refined from a distance.
@stuff74427 жыл бұрын
Great review - enjoyed it. But regarding the range remaining - it's just saying to you - "If you continue to ride in the way that you've ridden, this is the range you'll get" - it didn't regenerate more miles (yes, it _did_ reclaim something from slowing down, but it's pretty negligible) - you were just riding conservatively enough for it to say "Hey, you carry on riding like that, you'll get this greater range instead" Switching your riding style to something more aggressive, it again just says "Ok, you ride like that - _this_ is the range you'll get" - it's a completely dynamic reading - which is really useful because it lets you see in real-time how's best to ride if range is important. The regenerative braking is good, but not that good.
@baqcasanke7 жыл бұрын
Stuff i dont even have regen braking on my ebike cause i have a mid drive. But yea it gives you like 10% back at most
@brit-in-czech5 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this.
@dannyboy18686 жыл бұрын
Which is basically whichcraft 😂 good vid fella very informative
@xTheSweetyMan4 жыл бұрын
Great review. I hope an EV developmental company can change you mind mind one day. I don't own one myself but I have to say I'm hooked on the videos and your work for this one is honest and by far the most informative and best I've seen so far.
@KillroyX997 жыл бұрын
The standard Zero SR is lighter than some 600 cc sport bikes wet weight. Manufactures often give dry weights. Go ride it. It does not feel heavy.
@LieutenantBonk6 жыл бұрын
Well done. Thank you for the honest review.
@yujishinohara1uponatime7 жыл бұрын
virtually maintenance free nirvana electric bikes, a couple questions before pulling the trigger you should ask yourself 1 what is the battery life? 2 what is the battery replacement cost?
@thorstambaugh15206 жыл бұрын
Battery good for 300000 miles. By that time you will have saved enough to get a brand spanking new one with 800 miles range and a 30 minute charge time
@subaquatix6877 жыл бұрын
Pure motorcycle enjoyment is the wind, the freedom, simplicity, the open road. The Zero just doesn't look that nimble and cool as a cafe. Dont mind classic design with silent motor. But congratulations to them for doing this fr! Someone has to be the first.
@BillFromHalifax4 жыл бұрын
They're great bikes! I only a have a cheap Daymak Em1 (pretty much an electric Honda Grom) and its fun as hell! evenyone looks twice haha The thing thats killing Zero and most other makers is their prices 😔 Daymak are affordable, Zero are not.
@MudGod19696 жыл бұрын
You tried to review it up at that stop sign..I laughed so hard...oh and that helmet..where the hell did u get that ugly thing,! Lol just playing.. enjoyed the video man.
@rastajay88834 жыл бұрын
I cannot wait to invest in this when the price lowers 👌🏿Great review and great savings on fuel
@kylecouture19176 жыл бұрын
I like the look of the main bodyfrom the side but from a front view, something about the headlight makes it look like an old bike. I like the fxs more.
@Kraken543215 жыл бұрын
Great video, what electric motorbike would make a good learner bike?
@quadsman116 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your open and honest approach to your thoughts and feelings about this bike ! I have seriously considered investing in an eBike, eMotorcycle, dealership. However, much like you, I have my reservations in how the buying public will receive this concept ! There are a number of challenges and hurdles to be jumped over before committing to anything so different from the accepted normal !
@HarleyDavidsonVince7 жыл бұрын
Another question I have actually two.First question is are they quiet.Second question is can it gear down.
@thorstambaugh15206 жыл бұрын
Yes very quiet. You hear the birdies when you ride. You can adjust the options on your phone app for engine braking
@LosAngelesCars6 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! California is the best state in America!!! I represent Los Angeles!!!
@AdaptivePhenix6 жыл бұрын
I thought it was spelled Kalifornia 😁
@SternLX6 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 ZERO DS. Just recently took a test ride on a 2018 ZERO SR ZF14.4 ... thing is a BEAST in Sport mode. I weigh only 160lbs so add that to the bikes 400lb curb weight and that 116ft/lb of torque really got my attention. Feels much punchier than my year older DS.
@bluepawn6 жыл бұрын
Looking for those vehicles but with 3 wheels, roof, removable batteries on wheels so I can charge at home... I hope to seem them more on roads ! Thanks for the great video !
@dazadorph457 жыл бұрын
would be Interested in the other electric bikes. the American even lightening bike was 20 seconds quicker than anything else that year up to mountin run. no need to worry though. I think that even will help by not solve our petrol reliant transport. A thank you to you guys for this more realistic assessment and review from a bikers view in an almost real life scenarios. good review. I think even bikes have so much more to do and progress before more bikers start to move across. price is a big thing to, needs to come down alot.
@deangouveia31646 жыл бұрын
A brilliant review ... keep it up geezer
@Mmmyess6 жыл бұрын
It's easy to forget that we already feel range anxiety on our petrol (i.e., gasoline) motorcycles, particularly on long rides between isolated towns (e.g., mountain rides, or cross country). I don't see the issue being siginificantly worse on an electric bike, particularly since 99% of my riding is done quite close to home.
@bankaibiohazard97816 жыл бұрын
then the spin of the front leg charges the battery by some margin, but its not there yet
@mikeskidmore67546 жыл бұрын
Considering that Petrol costs about 3 times more in UK than USA that's an interesting start ..
@nbibby7 жыл бұрын
Thanks good review, impartial and informative 👍
@manjujbhalagi50246 жыл бұрын
Love to see this in India ,it s gona be great success.