SteamOS 3 Will KILL Gaming on Windows

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ZestyAsTech

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@ZestyAsTech
@ZestyAsTech Ай бұрын
I'm trying a new editing style/format for this video. Let me know what you all think!
@NLDarkCloud
@NLDarkCloud Ай бұрын
The subtitels are to much for me!
@aerialdude
@aerialdude Ай бұрын
I don't like the one-word-at-a-time subtitles right in the middle of the screen
@lexcelius6921
@lexcelius6921 Ай бұрын
Its not that SteamOS 2 would not work. Its that its Debian 9 and when you go to Update it. It will update to current Debian and while Debian can use Proton. Debian Linux Gaming has perfornance Issues not Present on Arch Linux because Debian only allows 2 Year old Code into their Code Base, so Brand new Games don't run all that Smoothly on Debian and its Deritives.
@FreshMootz
@FreshMootz Ай бұрын
Love it!
@thatzaliasguy
@thatzaliasguy Ай бұрын
Definitely not a fan of this editing. Feels very lazy 2000's with some generic B-roll running on loop in the background, giant subtitles across the front; and then an audio visualizer at the bottom for, what, being the only interesting thing to look at? It's "Arch"; not "Ark" BTW.
@jasonm2477
@jasonm2477 Ай бұрын
DRM and anti cheat are going to be what keeps windows entrenched.
@anthony-s026
@anthony-s026 Ай бұрын
True, but valve knows this too. FMU Easy Anti-Cheat supports Proton though its at developer discretion to enable it. All they need is to sweet talk Epic and EA to adding support for their AC on Proton. Heck probably more Epic since Fortnite causes market shifts for better or worst.
@SahilP2648
@SahilP2648 Ай бұрын
SteamOS can integrate anti-cheat directly in the OS with an API available to DRM developing companies (that's how DRM companies can get access to ring 0 afaik). But it depends on devs from both Steam and the DRM companies' sides.
@jasonm2477
@jasonm2477 Ай бұрын
@@anthony-s026 epic and ea have competing game stores and have little motivation to cooperate, EA is notorious for being uncooperative and anti consumer.
@Rayu25Demon
@Rayu25Demon Ай бұрын
i wont play an online game without anti cheating . i hate playing with hackers every round
@anthony-s026
@anthony-s026 Ай бұрын
@@jasonm2477 EA does still publish to steam and they could just make an origin app for linux. Proton can be used on non steam games/apps. They could have linux support without having to commit extra resources to it, all on Valve’s dime. Same can be said for Epic (save for publishing their games on steam part).
@n.m4497
@n.m4497 Ай бұрын
Good evening, I hate Microsoft.
@Defalts2
@Defalts2 Ай бұрын
Good evening, me too.
@johnycoolhd
@johnycoolhd Ай бұрын
Good evening, me too
@wicked5595
@wicked5595 Ай бұрын
Good evening, me too
@SigfridSWE
@SigfridSWE Ай бұрын
Good evening, me too
@davesmith8101
@davesmith8101 Ай бұрын
Good evening, me too.
@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk
@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk Ай бұрын
Goverment needs to pass a bill that prevents any fully purchased product from showing ads in its user interface without acceptance to do so by the individual and making it clear up front this is what they'll be doing. (meaning can't hide it in some mile long TOA) That's what needs to be done. I think it's robery. Making money off of people without them even knowing it.
@photonboy999
@photonboy999 Ай бұрын
Well, I hope you aren't referring to the USA because the incoming Trump Administration is for sale. That's why "45" bragged about cutting regulations in his 1st term as if it was a good thing. He wants businesses to do whatever they want, especially if they give him money... Europe tends to be a better place for consumer protection.
@TheObsesedAnimeFreaks
@TheObsesedAnimeFreaks Ай бұрын
... there's a song about this, "welcome to the internet" more over, you can disable all those "ads" fairly easily. tis not a a defense of windows, i absolutely love to hate it, but, to be fair, windows is not just pushing ads without users "consent" they are "suggestions" and don't appear in any view that a user will frequent... mostly. and they can be disabled easily by disabling anything that says "suggestions." the opt out policy is bad, but... it's what it is. I actually left windows on my personal devices because of co-pilot.
@stauntssantana
@stauntssantana Ай бұрын
It needs to be straight up illegal with no exceptions period otherwise we're gonna get just another "cookie popup" as if those weren't already bad enough.
@OriginalMergatroid
@OriginalMergatroid Ай бұрын
This would make no difference. MS would start telling everyone there are ads in Windows.
@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk
@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk Ай бұрын
@@OriginalMergatroid If you read it, it would make a difference. It means they wouldn't be allowed to add ads. You would have to agree to it. And they'd be forced to make it clear and up front, not hidden in a terms.
@iamtheabdi
@iamtheabdi Ай бұрын
2:10 no way he said Arc instead of Arch btw
@linuxsquare
@linuxsquare Ай бұрын
Never heard of it? Intel's Arc Linux, only usable with their Arc graphics :D /s (I use "arc" btw)
@SMGJohn
@SMGJohn Ай бұрын
Did your inner spectrum scream?
@Extreme-PCIe-Cable
@Extreme-PCIe-Cable Ай бұрын
@@SMGJohninner spectrum is wild
@Hackenberg
@Hackenberg Ай бұрын
Archangel?
@5PACE-DR01D
@5PACE-DR01D Ай бұрын
i use arch btw
@kurtwinter4422
@kurtwinter4422 Ай бұрын
Running Windows on a VM for the few applications you may need, like office, is a great idea.
@Baxiljn
@Baxiljn Ай бұрын
There’s FOSS alternatives that run natively on Linux
@thetower8553
@thetower8553 Ай бұрын
@@Baxiljn Only-Office, LibreOffice. Honestly closed-source software should never be the standard
@robiimadot.9273
@robiimadot.9273 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately not for everything right now, because i have an attack shark k85 keyboard and i can't find a software for it and the web driver is not an option for this hall effect keyboard unfortunately.
@NicolayGiraldo
@NicolayGiraldo Ай бұрын
​@@robiimadot.9273 you can get a better keyboard. I have a Keychron K8 Pro QMK/VIA keyboard, it is a mechanical wired and wireless keyboard, and besides QMK/VIA, which works in Linux, I don't see the need to have a driver for a keyboard. Standards matter.
@Atomhaz
@Atomhaz Ай бұрын
Wine works for office applications too I thought
@tahustvedt
@tahustvedt Ай бұрын
Up until the late 90's we used to reboot into another OS to play games (From Windows to MS-DOS). Windows technically needed DOS to boot until XP but in practice it was like using two different systems for the end user.
@CptNogg
@CptNogg Ай бұрын
haha i remember this, and damn it was a pain in the arse
@Grasseatereu
@Grasseatereu Ай бұрын
I stil dont understand people prefered windows 3.11 over norton commander!
@Agg1E91
@Agg1E91 Ай бұрын
Ahh, the good ole days! 😆 Actually I didn't play many Windows or DOS games (apart from Doom and Quake) until Win98 was released. I was running SNES or even Amigas for my gaming focus. Win98 and 2K effectively broke my attachment to gaming consoles. Other than the 1st gen Wii, but that was because of the physical activity aspect of it.
@ppdan
@ppdan Ай бұрын
​@@Grasseatereu In a way I am still using it today ... Midnight Commander My main OS is Debian testing (currently Trixie) and Midnight Commander is probably the first thing I install on any linux machine.
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo Ай бұрын
nah, i barely even went into windows to begin with. stuff ran like 30% slower on windows 95 than on dos on my 486 dx4
@chaddesrosiers1107
@chaddesrosiers1107 Ай бұрын
Your clearly not a Linux person... and that is ok. :) What makes SteamOS 3 interesting to Linux nerds. Is that it really is a very viable consumer Linux distro. What makes SteamOS unique is that Valve has made it an Immutable distro. What Immutable means is that the /root OS file system is locked. The user can't mess with their system files. Its baked in. When Valve does updates they update the base system as one. This means the average consumer can not screw anything major up. They can't accidentally delete something important from /boot or /etc or /bin. SteamOS is consumer/idiot proof. More so then windows is. At the same time its still Arch Linux. So all of us gaming Linux nerds running Arch (and arch based distros) benefit as steamos usage goes up and game developers actually take the time to make steam profiles for their games. Its really nice now when new AAA titles work and run as well on Linux as they do on Windows. Second/Third class citizens no more. For all the new gaming consumers that do switch over to SteamOS... it gives them a great safe Linux in. At least some of them down the road will switch to other less locked down Linux systems. Googles ChromeOS proved that for basic use Linux is great... the problem is its so stripped down that it doesn't really push users toward Linux proper. SteamOS will. That is exciting for everyone. Its time for MS to exit consumer operating systems. They were never very good at it.
@ZestyAsTech
@ZestyAsTech Ай бұрын
Thank you, you’re absolutely right. My knowledge of Linux is extremely surface level. Part of what makes SteamOS appealing to me is how simple it would make things for me.
@chaddesrosiers1107
@chaddesrosiers1107 Ай бұрын
@@ZestyAsTech Indeed. Us Neck beard types aren't really as unwelcoming as we have been portrayed. For years we have told people to try the more user friendly distros like Mint, or the major workstation ones like Ubuntu. An actual steamos 3 release would be great. It can bring more people on board.
@fredericomartins3dartist255
@fredericomartins3dartist255 Ай бұрын
Damn, this is the info I was looking for in the video :D thanks!
@cezarstefanseghjucan
@cezarstefanseghjucan Ай бұрын
I want to game, I don't want to develop Linux. The End.
@chaddesrosiers1107
@chaddesrosiers1107 Ай бұрын
@@cezarstefanseghjucan Then SteamOS has you covered. Not everyone that runs SteamOS needs to become a Linux head. :) You just want to game cool, that is what Valve wants you doing as well.
@trekrich28
@trekrich28 Ай бұрын
This would be great. As Windows 11 is rubbish.
@Bigboss-xe6lm
@Bigboss-xe6lm Ай бұрын
No its not... Getattahere
@Hardcore_Remixer
@Hardcore_Remixer Ай бұрын
​@Bigboss-xe6lm It is. Imagine a new OS running worse than the previous one on last gen CPUs. And spyware which records all that appears on the screen, as well as AI being an integral part? I wonder why it needs 3.8 GB just to idle.
@SeeJayPlayGames
@SeeJayPlayGames Ай бұрын
@Hardcore_Remixer to be fair, 2GB of that is cache. And that varies depending on how much RAM you actually have. But Windows 11 still sucks.
@hardergamer
@hardergamer Ай бұрын
I moved back to w10, as w11 was just too bad for me, plus, w10 gains 5%+ FPS in most games over w11.
@ThatOneCringyEdgelord
@ThatOneCringyEdgelord Ай бұрын
@@hardergamer Same here. Been staying on Win10 since the very day MS allowed Win7 users to upgrade to 10 for free. And whatever happens, I'll NEVER upgrade to the 11th version. Even if the EoS will happen. Cuz I can always just buy myself a license for better anti-virus protection, it's better than having BS-worthy features in 11.
@RCSky7711
@RCSky7711 Ай бұрын
I actually got into Linux because of Steam OS, I thought Linux was too hard so I started messing with Steam OS. Ultimately I ended up with Fedora Linux because I wanted the freedom to change the system as I wished and it has been amazing. I almost always get better Performance On Linux and I like the overall experience of the Linux desktop much More than windows. If Steam Os 3 is any good I will try it out but for now Im happy with Linux and Don't even use windows anymore
@shaydesofblue2281
@shaydesofblue2281 2 күн бұрын
Linux is so fun. Can update from the terminal without having to restart. No GUI. So much better.
@atzufuki
@atzufuki Ай бұрын
The whole industry still needs a shift. NVIDIA need to stop fucking around. HDMI need to stop fucking around. Game devs need to stop fucking around. Especially EA. Peripheral manufacturers like Logitech need to stop fucking around. Anti cheat providers need to stop fucking around. Linux gaming is a harmony where the choices of every party matters. I hope that Valve could force them to do that.
@joaovitorribeirosouza3916
@joaovitorribeirosouza3916 Ай бұрын
wait, what does hdmi has to do with all of this? just wondering
@atzufuki
@atzufuki Ай бұрын
@joaovitorribeirosouza3916 Basically HDMI 2.1 features wont work if you are a Linux + AMD GPU user, makes your new 240hz monitor completely useless. This is because HDMI wont allow delivering part of the spec in the kernel. NVIDIA doesn't have this problem since they are allowed to deliver the part in their firmware. For AMD to do this, it would require a major rewrite.
@joaovitorribeirosouza3916
@joaovitorribeirosouza3916 22 күн бұрын
@@atzufuki oh didnt know that, thanks man. that sucks...
@mirabilis
@mirabilis 3 күн бұрын
DisplayPort > HDMI. HDMI needs to fuck off.
@Iluminangel
@Iluminangel Ай бұрын
I wish steam were made for high end android phones, that would be perfect and these devices are perfectly powerful to run a lot of steam games.
@QixIceni
@QixIceni 11 күн бұрын
Here's the issue. PC gamers don't want their computers to be "consoles". We want a functioning OS like Windows so we can do our work as well as play. If Valve sets up a proper desktop, then I'm in. Otherwise, it'll be a "duel-boot" situation and I'd rather have an all-in-one OS.
@MandrakeDCR
@MandrakeDCR Ай бұрын
If they get the "no-kernel-level-invasion" regulation passed... so that regular anti-cheat works, and it can't kick out linux kernels - that will be the big push. Or... if widespread adoption takes hold, then game companies will probably push past it anyway. That's going to be the big limiter at this point. None of the games I play are affected by it thankfully. But it sucks for those that it does.
@fading-sun-studios
@fading-sun-studios Ай бұрын
its arch linux not arc linux
@graxxor
@graxxor Ай бұрын
That is a question?
@fading-sun-studios
@fading-sun-studios Ай бұрын
@graxxor accidently typed a question mark
@TheHippo-or5wi
@TheHippo-or5wi Ай бұрын
I USE ARCH BTW! 🤣
@Contmotore
@Contmotore Ай бұрын
It's Arch Linux, btw
@HextorBane
@HextorBane Ай бұрын
It's trash linux, not linux
@BeerMoneyGames
@BeerMoneyGames Ай бұрын
As a game dev, I love this idea. But software like 3ds max is nearly impossible to run on Linux. But over the last year, any non-work computers we have at home have started to be upgraded with the Steamdeck OS.
@nostalgianinja
@nostalgianinja Ай бұрын
As with anything, it's idealism that says "yeah it can run on Linux", but I really hate that. I found alternatives to the software (and went as FOSS as possible) when I moved over to Linux. I would love to see pressure from devs to bring their stuff over to Linux, but that will only happen when market share is high enough for them to care about their bottom line being hurt. I've been daily driving my system for over 3 years in Linux, and I've only had to deal with Windows' shenanigans when something goes wrong and I need to fix an NTFS partition or deal with any other issue that requires it. Otherwise, my Windows SSD sits idle and barely gets use nowadays.
@Roxor128
@Roxor128 Ай бұрын
What about Blender? That gets professional use. The Factorio developers used it to make all the sprites in that game, and Factorio is one of the highest-rated and most-stable games on Steam.
@cloudwolf3972
@cloudwolf3972 Ай бұрын
Funny to see people "loving" the idea to ditch Windows for Linux but not paid proprietary software that could be EASILY replaced by the second (or first) biggest FOSS project: Blender.
@freelancerthe2561
@freelancerthe2561 Ай бұрын
@@cloudwolf3972 "I already have all the hot keys memorized"
@TrunkyGurden
@TrunkyGurden 21 күн бұрын
maya, blender, zbrush, or houdini could be good alternitives. Most of VFX is linux based and uses Maya. also most the professional work is done in PCoIP, so it doesnt matter what you are running locally, you always get your office workstation
@ChiefGyk3D
@ChiefGyk3D Ай бұрын
As someone who streams Gaming on Linux and has been living in Linux for over a decade, I think there are some important points you’re missing. While SteamOS is interesting, it’s far less critical than Proton-which you did mention. Proton has been a game-changer, but it’s worth noting that we’ve been able to run Proton on nearly every Linux distribution, not just SteamOS. The real bottleneck for gaming on Linux isn’t the OS-it’s Kernel-Level Anti-Cheat (KLAC). KLAC has been the biggest hurdle preventing Linux users from playing certain games. Beyond that, KLAC has its own issues-it’s invasive, raises security and privacy concerns, and frankly, doesn’t justify the risks it brings. For gaming on Linux to fully thrive, the industry needs anti-cheat systems that work across platforms and don’t rely on kernel-level access. Also, no, I won’t be switching to SteamOS. I love using Pop!_OS because it’s designed for a better everyday workflow and suits my needs beyond gaming. SteamOS is fine for a Steam Deck, but honestly, I don’t know anyone running Linux who would install it on their desktop or laptop. And just to clarify, it’s Arch Linux, not Arc. Think “arch your back.” Linux gaming has come a long way, and it’s exciting to see more people recognizing its potential. If you haven’t already, I’d encourage you to try gaming on a Linux distro of your choice-there’s a lot to love!
@Masaliantiikeri
@Masaliantiikeri Ай бұрын
3:30 It's Arch Linux btw
@nickreffner4574
@nickreffner4574 Ай бұрын
I use it btw
@ghgltggamer
@ghgltggamer Ай бұрын
I uses arch btw ;)
@peckneck2439
@peckneck2439 9 күн бұрын
The steam OS needs to have two easily accesible versions because not everyone may want to always get launched into the Big Picture mode. Some people may want to start in a regular desktop mode
@Ksescel
@Ksescel Ай бұрын
Damn KZbin did not want you to get views today
@mortysmith666
@mortysmith666 Ай бұрын
But it recommended it to me tho
@adds-kz3oc
@adds-kz3oc Ай бұрын
Because the video isn't well thought out, starts with filler about SteamOS, and lacks knowledge. Dude can't even pronounce "Arch".
@Ksescel
@Ksescel Ай бұрын
@@mortysmith666 one day later
@snowgunny
@snowgunny Ай бұрын
full caps kill ironically killed the video, bc youtube.
@Sithhy
@Sithhy Ай бұрын
@@adds-kz3oc Him pronouncing "arch" as "arc" is most likely an accent thing
@swizzler
@swizzler Ай бұрын
The problem is Multiplayer games are unwilling to put in the work to put important stuff serverside so that cheating is harder, and insist instead on rootkit monitoring apps to detect cheating, which will never work on SteamOS. Also SteamOS's association with ARCH, (not ARC) has nothing to do with it's flexability, it's the use of an immutable operating system. Basically how an immutable operating system works is that you basically have two installs of the operating system at any time, install A and install B. When you update the system say you're booted to operating system A, so when you update, it updates system B. Then when you reboot, it reboots to system B, and if it boots successfully, copies the update over to system A as well, if the update fails, it just reboots back to system A instead. It's something I REALLY REALLY REALLY wish Windows had, as it would make my day job as an IT much much easier.
@mikeinal5521
@mikeinal5521 Ай бұрын
You mean Arch Linux BTW.
@rps215
@rps215 Ай бұрын
...not Intel ARC
@Opt1685
@Opt1685 Ай бұрын
I use Arch btw
@CHESHIREFOXII
@CHESHIREFOXII Ай бұрын
It's a software os for Linux so basically you download a version of and flash it to run Arch Linux
@mikeinal5521
@mikeinal5521 Ай бұрын
@@CHESHIREFOXII I think there is a misundrstanding. there is no ArcLinux that I iknow of, its based on Arch Linux.
@hundvd_7
@hundvd_7 Ай бұрын
I use Arc btw
@Dargaard
@Dargaard Ай бұрын
When I got my Steamdeck in 2023 I almost immediately ditched windows on my desktop, the instant I saw the state of Linux gaming I had no reason to stay. All of my games work, 1 or 2 required adding something to the command line in Steam or changing proton version. Even the couple of games I play with anti-cheat work fine. To be clear, I don't play e-sports or multiplayer only games. I will give one example of a game I didn't think would work but does, Sniper Elite 5, I figured I would have to give up invasion mode to switch to Linux as it required Easy anti-cheat, but no it just worked, and works perfect.
@edelzocker8169
@edelzocker8169 9 күн бұрын
Xonotic, Sauerbraten, Red Eclipse, ...
@FlamespeedyAMV
@FlamespeedyAMV Ай бұрын
corporations want DRM, anti-cheat & copyright bullshit.. this is why Linux and Steam OS will be hard for us gamers.
@Sayenkor
@Sayenkor Ай бұрын
They do it because users buy it.
@edelzocker8169
@edelzocker8169 9 күн бұрын
DRM and Anti-Cheat will go extinct because both are useless tools that do more harm than good. GoG is the future!
@FantasyZoneGaming
@FantasyZoneGaming Ай бұрын
Like 10 years ago there was a thing for windows. It was a new type on media player that left the desktop and dashboards behind. It was so cool.
@elbuglione
@elbuglione Ай бұрын
I switch to SteamOS sins 1.0.... I quit windows almost a decade ago... Nowadays I play in Arch Linux with my PS5 Controller and I'm so happy to don't have even close to windows.
@rla9889
@rla9889 17 күн бұрын
If I can’t play all my games then it’s not killing anything. 😂
@1111Tactical
@1111Tactical Ай бұрын
This is not only cool for Linux gamers, but I can see a future where both Windows PC and Corporate Controlled Consoles die, and the PC and Console nations can live in Harmony. Current console gamers can get a pre-built Steambox, stay in big picture UI and never tweak anything for a simple console experience. Things like mods would be way more accessible to couch consoel gamers too. PC Gamers can build their own rig, install Steamos, and access more of the Archlinux interface and features more like a traditional PC desktop
@KingcoleIIV
@KingcoleIIV Ай бұрын
@@1111Tactical . The average person doesn't care about any of those things. Yes, as a longtime computer user-I've been on the internet for 30 years-I can see the utility, but it still has a long way to go to match the ease of use Windows computers have with plug and play. On Windows, it takes two steps; Linux takes six for most things, and that's if you can find programs that work with Linux.
@ChloeCake
@ChloeCake Ай бұрын
@@KingcoleIIV Eh that's a nothingburger of a point in this context. These days WINE has gotten absurdly good at its job. Steam has a fully features Linux version that's a single button (power up) away on Steam hardware --or a single command on regular Linux installs of every major distro--, and Steam on Linux will always come bundled with the latest version of Proton and its own environment libraries designed to work well with Proton. A very large majority of games on Steam (Which is a lot of software) are plug and play as long as you have your graphics drivers sorted out, which on Steam hardware, they're guaranteed to work pretty much perfectly out of the factory, and on regular machines, as long as it's not Nvidia, they probably will be from the moment you install Linux for most major distros. The reason i specify "in this context" is, exactly that, we're talking about games here, but even outside that, it's easier to count the productivity software that doesn't yet work on Linux than what doesn't. If you're not gonna use things like, Adobe products, 3DS Max, things like that where the developer goes out of their way to make it a nightmare to run it on Linux (in which case, yes, stay out of POSIX in general or use Windows under a virtual machine if plausible and desired), then it's probably gonna be just fine whether Wine is required or not. There's been an insane amount of progress on Linux these past few years specially, and the success of the Steam Deck is proof of that, and sure it's not perfect, it's never gonna be, but it's pretty darn good already considering how absurdly mainstream Windows is (far too much for its own good), and it's probably only gonna go up from here with Valve's support and the Linux market share spiking so much as of recently.
@KingcoleIIV
@KingcoleIIV Ай бұрын
@ChloeCake Regular non power users don't care. We care but they do not. You are in a minority.
@ChloeCake
@ChloeCake Ай бұрын
@@KingcoleIIV Hence SteamOS exists. Buy Steam Deck, press power button, install game from Steam, you're done 9/10 times, unless it's something with KLAC.
@donovskig.8672
@donovskig.8672 Ай бұрын
I need this before october 14 2025
@jaygordon4053
@jaygordon4053 Ай бұрын
I'm running Tiny10 Windiws 10 LTSC until the wheels fall off.
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic Ай бұрын
Same, @Dono.
@TonyTinker-hc3zq
@TonyTinker-hc3zq Ай бұрын
That's my birthday 😂
@buzzlightweight
@buzzlightweight Ай бұрын
so many of my steam games are still unplayable on steam deck!
@GradyBroyles
@GradyBroyles Ай бұрын
But most of those will play just fine on an Arch + Plasma 6 + Steam *desktop* The hold-outs are almost exclusively because Linux doesn't lock it's kernel thus kernel-level anti-cheat is difficult (at best)
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo Ай бұрын
@@GradyBroyles thankfully, i don't want any bullshit spyware running kernel-level on my machine. that should be a crime to begin with. that's like a hotel only lending you a room if you give them the keys to your car, house and the codes to all of your safes.
@DovahZeux
@DovahZeux Ай бұрын
@@GraveUypo My brother in Christ the NSA knows when you so much as turn on a lamp in your house. Please abandon your delusions of grandeur about "privacy," lol...
@edelzocker8169
@edelzocker8169 9 күн бұрын
@@GraveUypo DRM is also bad...
@xXRat_BOSSXx
@xXRat_BOSSXx Ай бұрын
Regurgitated slop video content and you can't even spell Arch linux right, keep yourself safe!
@bennihtm
@bennihtm Ай бұрын
Im looking forward to SteamOS becoming available to more manufacturers. Great video!
@edelzocker8169
@edelzocker8169 9 күн бұрын
Just run Mint
@Christofer_tTt
@Christofer_tTt 19 күн бұрын
I’m a pc gamer and rog ally x owner. I would definitely like to have a separate ssd w steam os. I do like having a pc but it is brutal having to deal with the whims of Microsoft and I love the idea of just having a lightweight os that doesn’t eat up so much unnecessary resources
@edelzocker8169
@edelzocker8169 9 күн бұрын
Just dual boot Linux Mint on your PC! Thats how I switched...
@syliagray
@syliagray Ай бұрын
Steam is the best thing that has ever happened to the Linux gaming scene.
@burgedham
@burgedham Ай бұрын
its been the best thing thats happened to linux as a whole tbh
@syliagray
@syliagray Ай бұрын
@slop_core I have also heard about Apple collaborating with Valve on Metal and Proton to bring Mac compatibility to Windows games. I'm not sure if it's true, but if it's true, Steam could also be the best thing that has ever happened to MacOS gaming as well.
@edelzocker8169
@edelzocker8169 9 күн бұрын
@@syliagray There are less gamer on rotten Apple than on Linux.
@JohnDoe-el5ir
@JohnDoe-el5ir 18 күн бұрын
One more thing, it might end up Microsoft buying Valve 😂
@jonathanmora8208
@jonathanmora8208 12 күн бұрын
never
@Sora-el-manco
@Sora-el-manco Ай бұрын
Gotta add the fact that, nowadays, unless you're using a custom game engine, porting to linux is as easy as open a linux machine/VM and compile the game inside of it. That's it. Even indie devs can support linux with almost no extra cost, and I actually have seen more cases like this lately thanks to the popularity of the steamdeck.
@ghgltggamer
@ghgltggamer Ай бұрын
3:30 I also uses arch btw ;)
@dipanjanpalchowdhury6012
@dipanjanpalchowdhury6012 Ай бұрын
Waiting for steam os to release, sick and tired of using Windows. But for now I'm using Arch btw...
@Kidney_Thief
@Kidney_Thief Ай бұрын
If I can use my PC as normal and play games without Microsoft, I'm in for SteamOS 3
@hotelhotelhotel
@hotelhotelhotel Ай бұрын
why does the whole video have adhd attention grabbing flashing subtitles in all caps, jesus
@SireDragonChester
@SireDragonChester Ай бұрын
The problem is since windows has BIG market share, they (devs/studios and other IP companies) don’t want support Linux simple because not enough ppl use it. Steam os could change that. If thousands, Hundreds of thousands ppl all of suddenly jump to steam OS, and hardware venders see they more ppl are abandoning windows, gamers switching to steam os. Then everybody else will have to jump ship. Or they be left behind. Steam deck is proof it already works. Windows is BLOATWARE! DirectX is bloatware, Vulkan is proof, it often runs many windows games better on even less powerful hardware. Now we just need get desktop market to also jump onto steam os. Then rest of the industry will also. Specially if steam os is more easy for devs to code for, runs games and apps better,has better driver support for hardware, is less vulnerable to virus/spyware/malware. WINDOWS has choke hold on pc market. Gaming on windows pc was always slap on afterwords. Cus back in early 90’s. We use play all our games in DOS. Then ms brought windows 3.1 then we got windows 95. But gaming was added later. Ms also bullied out or had many other os shutdown (like IBM OS/2 Warp, Cus was threat to windows.) Microsoft can’t bully steam or Valve or steam os/Linux out the market out the market this time. They can’t use they high price lawyer to try force Valve to shut down. Like ms did for IBM. Steam os is MADE from ground up for gaming in mind. Made from ground up to work on mobile devices and desktop devices. Windows/DirectX was added later. So yes very excited to see steam os come to desktop pc. I just hope they have GTX/RTX driver support. As I still have my GTX 1080ti. Can’t afford to buy new gpu or even used one. As 6900xt here is still $900 Canadian last time I checked. And new 4080 is $1600, 3090 are still $2000+ or more. No sense to buy 3080ti with only 12 Gb Vram. It’s not enough for 2025 and beyond.
@nostalgianinja
@nostalgianinja Ай бұрын
Market share isn't the only factor to the problem. People want developer support as well as money from the OS Vendor (This is the case as Apple also has a small market share, but has professionals in certain spaces) The only support you'd get from Linux is community support. There's very few official vendors that would give you direct support (Red Hat are one of those few, they maintain Fedora and RHEL)
@SireDragonChester
@SireDragonChester Ай бұрын
@nostalgianinja True but that’s why I am looking forward to steam os. Valve will have to support both mobile devices and desktop PCs. Which means hopefully driver support, along other hardware venders and software venders. Hopefully they too will also see the benefit of supporting steam os and then the start jump onboard when they see a lot ppl HATE windows 11. Sure there few dummies who don’t know any better and don’t realize how bloated windows truly is. They don’t see how corrupt ms truly is, how they bully them-self to be #1. now years later with zero os competition, ms thinks they cans control us/dictate what they want. Not what comsumers/content creators/devs/gamers need. That fact they saying “ we’re need these high pc requirements for windows 11 is for security reasons” is biggest bullshit ever. There are many older PCs running Linux that are fine and still secure. Ms does NOT care what we want. They only care about their share holders. Ms actually care about security of the biggest laugh ever. It’s funny Cus ms does NOT even trust there own os. They been using Linux for their cloud/ai/server for years. If ms really cared about security, they would made windows like Linux os by now and made us all switch too it. But they don’t. Ex ms devs have gone on the record stating how bloated windows 10/11 truly is. We haven’t had any other os competition since window 3.1 came out. Ms has dominated since then. Mac has its support but yes it’s for much smaller market, and for specific target audience. I wish Mac had supported gaming but that never happened. Only now with Arm CPUs, Mac’s is starting support gaming. But it’s still no where near what pc market has for gaming. Linux and Vulkan is the future, Valve knows this. They told all devs back 2015 to use vulkan over bloated DX 12. Nobody listened. So they created they own custom Linux base on Vulkan. Steam deck/steam os = proof it works.
@malfunct
@malfunct Ай бұрын
There are already over 1 million linux gamers in the world happily using their steam deck. It hasn't been long enough for big game companies to pivot but if the steam deck doesn't do it nothing will.
@yenkol3590
@yenkol3590 29 күн бұрын
@@SireDragonChester Steam Os needs to free people from windows
@Chertograad
@Chertograad Ай бұрын
What about games on the xbox app, epic games launcher, gog galaxy, blizzard battle net etc.? Especially the xbox app since that's one of the major benefits of owning an xbox is that I get the games on both console and windows. As far as I know, the xbox app cannot be used on Linux with any sort of emulation or translation layers.
@ZestyAsTech
@ZestyAsTech Ай бұрын
Hopefully making an easy way for Steam users to dip their toes into Linux will result in more people moving to the platform. If enough people move over then companies will be more likely to support it natively… probably not the Xbox app though. Microsoft has been fairly supportive of other platforms with their whole “this is an Xbox” campaign but any sort of support for a competing PC OS is definitely a stretch
@Dargaard
@Dargaard Ай бұрын
I made the switch over a year ago, there are 3rd party launchers compatible with epic, gog, and amazon gaming, You can also install 3rd party services in steam and they work, before I knew about the 3rd party launchers I just installed Epic in Steam and if I wanted to play an Epic game I launched it in steam, worked fine. I don't use any xbox services so I can't speak on that.
@nostalgianinja
@nostalgianinja Ай бұрын
Lutris and Heroic Launcher gets you some support for about 80% of the launchers. I'm not personally sure about Xbox on Linux, but your mileage may vary. You just have to mind the anti-cheat crowd because that's where it gets tricky. Pretty sure SteamOS will allow you to do what you can on Steam Deck and just swap to Desktop to get stuff done.
@tanuki2k
@tanuki2k 26 күн бұрын
People could be on Linux now, why wait for steam os 3? Any Linux distro could be made to run steam and several act just like Steam OS does. I say get on board the Linux bandwagon now. Start learning what makes Linux, Linux and how it differences from windows. You'll be way more skilled and knowable for when Steam OS finally drops.
@Renigen
@Renigen 25 күн бұрын
Nah waiting for steam os is definitely a way to go. I want the installation to require the least input from the user, especially the ones not familiar with Linux at all. Hopefully, valve can make the experience of using Linux nice and user friendly.
@ZaberfangX
@ZaberfangX Ай бұрын
The long run as a Linux user I don't want Steam os to kill gaming on windows due to we need market to be better and have options, like it's great that mac having some support for gaming too. We all want is a healthy market not 1 company own it all then become lazy or os.
@ZestyAsTech
@ZestyAsTech Ай бұрын
I agree, competition is extremely important. I’m being pretty hyperbolic when I suggest it’s going to kill windows. More realistically I’d love to see Linux/SteamOS reach something like 20-30 percent on the Steam hardware survey. Even that is going to be a stretch but it would be really cool to see
@64bitmodels66
@64bitmodels66 Ай бұрын
Linux is a fully open source operating system. Even if it were to become a "monopoly" it wouldn't matter because it isn't wholesale owned by one person or anything like that. Anybody can take Linux, configurate it to how they like it, and then market it as their own OS.
@JohnDoe-el5ir
@JohnDoe-el5ir 18 күн бұрын
The biggest thing with it is not that system will be locked and you can’t screw it up, but the fact that steam os will make a certain version locked with its libraries, compiler versions, modules etc so others can finally make applications for Linux in binary format, already compiled. This is all about, standardised Linux, just like macOS. It was holding back many software because it had to be delivered in open source and had to be compiled in place or compiled for an exact version of Linux. Of course there were some precompiled files but the rest had to be compiled. Linus Torvalds said exactly so, that because of so many versions of Linux you can’t simply deliver ready to run, compiled software. So steam os can be big. I hope so very very much. It would also mean other distros almost instantly dead or inevitably dying except maybe some redhat and others commercial solutions. In longer run steam os can become alternative also for use for other things than gaming, like any other fully functional operating system.
@JohnConstatine-k2r
@JohnConstatine-k2r Ай бұрын
They've been saying that for years with SteamOS and Linux. And it has budge that much. maybe 3 percent in the last 10 years. Stop the cap.
@MrCrazyjoe259
@MrCrazyjoe259 Ай бұрын
Well, saying that Linux is going to take over any time soon is not true at all, but you're also wrong. Proton has made tremendous progress since the Deck was released, before Proton, game compatibility was infinitely worse. We went from having like maybe 20% of games compatible with Linux to over 70%, that's way more than you're suggesting.
@JohnConstatine-k2r
@JohnConstatine-k2r Ай бұрын
@@MrCrazyjoe259 My point is Steam OS isn't going to kill gaming on Windows. They've been saying that for years. Could SteamOS make a dent . Sure.
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo Ай бұрын
@@JohnConstatine-k2r that's all it needs to do. people who want to be slaves to microsoft can do whatever they want but everyone else gets to own their own pc. if linux grabs 10% of the market that's enough for devs to put work towards it. and it might snowball later on. or it might not. hopefully it does.
@JohnConstatine-k2r
@JohnConstatine-k2r Ай бұрын
@@GraveUypo I just like b.s. clickbait.
@Renigen
@Renigen 25 күн бұрын
Naturally, those 3% came from steamdeck sales, it was sitting at around 1.2% prior.
@bradleyp3655
@bradleyp3655 Ай бұрын
Unless Value can get SteamOS 3 preinstalled on gaming PC there is no chance of it over taking Windows.
@Acejinjo
@Acejinjo Ай бұрын
Agreed, though this will make Microsoft will think twice from now on IF SteamOS will finally be bundled with in PC Handhelds and PC. AND those can be bought in stores like Best Buy.
@Lippeth
@Lippeth Ай бұрын
Was there something wrong with the closed captions feature?
@FARDEENKHANQWE123
@FARDEENKHANQWE123 Ай бұрын
pretty sure this guy has 0 hate for microsoft and has no bias to it from linux.
@TSPxEclipse
@TSPxEclipse Ай бұрын
Let me be perfectly clear on this: if SteamOS does not function as a non-gaming OS just as seriously as it can handle gaming, it will flop. It has to be an actual full-fledged OS and not just a sophisticated baked-in Steam Big-Picture mode for people to be willing to install it. People do not get a PC for the sole purpose of gaming, and if they do, they never end up ONLY using it for gaming. On top of that, it needs to be user-friendly enough that people will feel comfortable making any sort of transition from Windows to another OS, if not even more inclined to switch because of various improvements over Windows that make SteamOS easier to use as a whole.
@64bitmodels66
@64bitmodels66 Ай бұрын
+1 to this- and matching that level of support where Windows has the 40+ year advantage is nigh impossible. It'll take a lot of work and more than just gaming to make everyone love and use Linux.
@edelzocker8169
@edelzocker8169 9 күн бұрын
All "new usefull features" that can be found in Windows 10/11 can be found on Linux and are over 20 years old. Linux distros that act like Windows exist for years now! I recommend Mint, Zorin or Sparky because SteamOS is just for consoles.
@jasandper
@jasandper 22 күн бұрын
This is absolutely the missing link for PC gaming - a dedicated gaming OS that's well supported, free of bloatware , with a well designed UI that rivals consoles. And I think no one is closer than Valve with Steam OS. I look forward to this future.
@SpawnBootcamp
@SpawnBootcamp Ай бұрын
Does Epic gamestore run on steamos?
@adds-kz3oc
@adds-kz3oc Ай бұрын
Yes, Heroic Games Launcher
@nathanpremo
@nathanpremo Ай бұрын
And it works great. I played all of GTA 5 via EGS via heroics. It just works.
@RoboBabeXD
@RoboBabeXD Ай бұрын
linux is full of bulk launchers
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo Ай бұрын
lutris has runners for all the stores other than microsoft store. i was just playing starcraft 2 via lutris through the bnet launcher runner
@IHazPeppers
@IHazPeppers Ай бұрын
Great video. More consistent uploads around steam, valve, gaming and tech would be awesome.
@hrleinad
@hrleinad Ай бұрын
What makes PC gaming interesting is that you can have a game open while also having other apps open at the same time. If I cannot, for example have UE5, 3Ds MAX, Photoshop and the videogame open at the same time while switching between those on the fly, then I'm not interested in Steam OS.
@Roxor128
@Roxor128 Ай бұрын
Valve ships a KDE desktop with it for use in desktop mode. Whether your software of choice has Linux versions or works with WINE is another matter, but if the question is "Can I use it like any other Linux desktop?" then the answer is "Yes.".
@hrleinad
@hrleinad Ай бұрын
@Roxor128 sorry, but they are selling it as the windows killer, and most of the apps I use don't have a Linux version and most can't run through wine either. That was precisely my point. I use Linux for programming mostly, but I cannot do design on it. And I play a lot of stuff while designing just to look at stuff and compare and get ideas.
@Roxor128
@Roxor128 Ай бұрын
@@hrleinad I don't think there is such a thing as a universal "[insert OS here] killer". You can certainly have one for specific niches, and if SteamOS is being sold as a "Windows killer", it'll only be for the niche of playing games, and with an emphasis on playing with a gamepad. Windows wasn't a universal "DOS killer". There are still legacy systems around running DOS (plus retrocomputing enthusiasts). No reason why we won't see the same sort of thing with Windows if it loses market share. Looks like design software is one of those niches that'll be sticking with Windows for the forseeable future.
@64bitmodels66
@64bitmodels66 Ай бұрын
@@Roxor128 then what's the point? You can't just go back to specific OSes for specific purposes like it's the 80s. an OS needs to be a "does everything well with great support" type of OS now. Imagine if iOS users had to briefly switch to android in order to record audio because iOS didn't have microphone support- nobody would ever buy an iPhone. either everything works and they're all onboard or 99% of everything works and everyone stays on the OS where 100% of everything works because why switch? It's not like the common everyman has a good idea of what Linux brings to benefit you over windows- the stuff that seems obvious to us (better privacy, more snappy, superior customization, more control) is virtually unheard of or irrelevant to everyone else.
@Roxor128
@Roxor128 Ай бұрын
@@64bitmodels66 It doesn't have to be 100% of _every possible task._ Asking for that is unreasonable, because nothing will do that. Filling the niches _that you occupy_ is enough. I switched my own machine, but I can't switch Mum's because while she's all good from a software perspective, she's being held back by her printer, which doesn't want to work under Linux Mint. If I can find a way to get it working, or the damn thing just dies on her, she's going Windows-free without objection.
@hanro50
@hanro50 Ай бұрын
The main thing is. Valve is using what amounts to off the shelf parts to build steam os. It means that any improvement valve makes to any one of these parts benefits everyone else using those same parts. Any developer that builds against steam os. It is also making software that's compatible with other more traditional Linux distributions. Since, at its core, SteamOS is a traditional Linux distro.
@ttinsane1988
@ttinsane1988 Ай бұрын
Linux isn't ready yet. I've used Linux systems for more then 20 years but i recently moved back to Windows. I've had too many situations where drivers get buggy after updating the kernel. Too many i situations that require time consuming thinkering to make stuff work correctly. Kernel developers only approve fixes that have corporate interest other patches get ignored. More importantly game developers push updates that break Proton compatibility all the time. Supported titles break because they aren't really supported. This makes buying games for the Steam Deck pretty much a gamble because you never know when the compatibility will break.
@titoosky
@titoosky Ай бұрын
Thanks for being realistic amongst delusional Linux fanboys
@DCM777.
@DCM777. Ай бұрын
LOL
@AWDTH1111
@AWDTH1111 13 күн бұрын
This is something I've waited for, for about 7 years. I'm a macOS user for my computing and work needs and have apple devices. But I'm a huge gamer and I like PC gaming more than console but I love that consoles don't use windows. This provides me the best of both worlds. I can finally have the smooth console experience while having all of the tools, performance and benefits of PC gaming without being tethered to Windows and its BS optimization issues, firewall and admin problems and annoying forced updates.
@Brekner
@Brekner Ай бұрын
@00:15 So uhmmm what are the benefits of a game console compared to a Windows-OS-powered PC?
@KingcoleIIV
@KingcoleIIV Ай бұрын
There's not, it just gives the windows haters something to circle j and brag about even though this will never happen.
@Jon_K.
@Jon_K. Ай бұрын
Way more user friendly, no bloatware, gives people a better gaming experience through a console like OS. I’m a PC gamer btw, not a hater.
@Brekner
@Brekner Ай бұрын
@@Jon_K. "console-like OS" doesn't mean anything to a non-console user. That's the reason I asked the question in the first place.
@bananarice5870
@bananarice5870 Ай бұрын
​@@Breknerif a game console is not for you, you probably will not need it.
@THE_MEGA_KNIGHT_2
@THE_MEGA_KNIGHT_2 Ай бұрын
I would say not much with windows being better for everything like doing anything productive, but steam os I would hope to be free unlike windows, but also be less bloated than windows so you could possibly get a overall gaming performance, but I would only see the benefit for steam os is if your using a small form factor computer that can travel with but there's also laptops which destroys the point of it. I still find it useful for me however because I have a ton more steam games than console games, so I would have it as a console alternative hooked up to my tv without focusing on other computer related problems like dealing with pop ups, random emails, organizing files, and etc. Overall I still think windows is useful but it could be better and sometimes something more basic is just better.
@spaceshot485
@spaceshot485 Ай бұрын
There's no way to get there unless you keep working at it. To be honest, this is something that takes ten years to get right. And it's the kind of thing they can hopefully subsidize with Steam as a business. we can always use good competition in this space to make everyone's experience better. I don't hate Windows but I do think there's potential here to , perhaps, lower system requirements and make more affordable gaming PCs. Maybe not, but in the end I look forward to healthy competition.
@timtrainage
@timtrainage Ай бұрын
Arr-CH not Ark
@ZestyAsTech
@ZestyAsTech Ай бұрын
Thank you, I’m far from an expert in the Linux community. I’m familiar with the very surface level stuff and then tried to fill in some additional research.
@PostNoteIt
@PostNoteIt Ай бұрын
Argh, Linux Evolved.
@paulhcahill
@paulhcahill Ай бұрын
I was wondering about that. There is an Arclinuix project, but I was pretty sure steam would be use ArchLinux.
@damasake
@damasake Ай бұрын
I use arc btw
@sxyjay
@sxyjay Ай бұрын
@@ZestyAsTech then stop making videos on it, you're supposed to be a "tech" channel but youre barely competant in the topic of the video so theres no point, people being exposed to your incomplete information as opposed to someone elses better content are being done a disservice
@Jaibuuuu
@Jaibuuuu Ай бұрын
It already killed it for me on handhelds. For a desktop.. I'd love to be able to install it on my main machine as a headless backend for streaming into my more portable gaming devices or TVs, that'd be awesome!
@pcallycat9043
@pcallycat9043 Ай бұрын
If steamos was going to do destroy windows, it already would have. You already have all the benefits of it available, to everyone. At the end of the day, for this to happen, you’d still have to reeducate the majority of the pc users on how to not only use a new operating system, but use it as well (in a world where many people get nervous trying to figure out where the power button is). Steamos has the chance to convince publishers to support Linux, it will never convince the world to stop using windows on their computers. Arch Linux + Steam has been available to the world for most of the last 20 years.
@SeeJayPlayGames
@SeeJayPlayGames Ай бұрын
hmmm, that's funny; I recall 29 years ago everyone switched from DOS/Windows 3.11 to Windows 95. That was a bit of a learning curve, and people didn't have a problem then. Are you implying people are more stubborn/stupid now?
@pcallycat9043
@pcallycat9043 Ай бұрын
@ not at all. Having spent 25 years in various fields in IT though, I’m acutely aware of the human tendency to follow the path of least resistance (having supported massive numbers of people in corporate environments through upgrades from xp through win10). To ignore human factors just to bias a discussion fails to move things forward, as does assuming the worst of anyone who might not agree.
@tradersblankers2931
@tradersblankers2931 Ай бұрын
@@pcallycat9043 Agreed, people will follow the path of least resistance, so if Valve is capable of making an easy install (extremely simple), if they are able make the system good for window users to look at and understand, then they will succeed is taking a large chunk of the market share, which in turn, will likely make Linux a much more dangerous ecosystem (more viruses for it). But overall, I definitely say that if Valve can make the transition like Windows 10 to mint, they should be fine... (assuming valve makes their own "appstore" like app which has loads of programs people use for windows (it should be noted, like I said, more apps will likely start moving to Linux if steam does get a large market share for their OS))
@pcallycat9043
@pcallycat9043 Ай бұрын
@@tradersblankers2931 I’m curious to see how things progress for sure. Desktop use is a second class citizen in the current steamos, but if users can get the best of both worlds, and a dead easy migration path sans surprises, well, we’ve already seen what can happen when you make Linux handheld gaming as easy as turning a console on. And, to be frank, I think the console experience would translate extraordinarily well to a set top box. They would have to make desktop Linux that easy (and solve application lock-in) to make it any threat to windows though (and I honestly hope it happens).
@marcusjones882
@marcusjones882 Ай бұрын
Lol, steamOS is like windows when it was good!
@IVIUT3D
@IVIUT3D 25 күн бұрын
Even gaming with proton right now is a pretty good experience, I started playing Helldivers 2 on linux exclusively thanks to proton
@Ziplock9000
@Ziplock9000 Ай бұрын
Yeah, no. It's more complicated than you think.
@OriginalRaveParty
@OriginalRaveParty Ай бұрын
I'd love to sack off Microshite Windows, but I need an OS that can run devices and software created for Windows 🧐
@DivergentDroid
@DivergentDroid Ай бұрын
Steam OS crap isn't going to kill anything except it's own market share. There is Zero way it could Ever kill PC gaming on Windows. It uses Proton. There are over 1000 popular games that don't work with Steam OS according to Proton DB because they of course don't want to play well with your dumb dirty hack. If you are a PC Gamer, Use Windows because that's what it's Made For. Don't use an inferior OS that is Not designed for your PC game. If not a gamer, use any Linux you want, I strongly suggest Zorin OS over Mint who's forums are filled with nothing but Linux snobs.
@lazyman2451
@lazyman2451 21 күн бұрын
Can I have steamOS as hypervisor 1 and rather than 2
@JamesMcCloskey
@JamesMcCloskey Ай бұрын
It would be great to have some serious competition to Microsoft Windows! They really dropped the ball with Windows 11. Additionally, if you are looking for a current Windows replacement, I would recommend Zorin OS!
@holyfenrir6336
@holyfenrir6336 Ай бұрын
Honestly, i just want a new edition of the Steam Deck.
@ryanmalone2681
@ryanmalone2681 Ай бұрын
Yeah right. When a normal user doesn’t find the applications they want in whatever package manager they’re using, and they find out they need to ‘add repos’, or they have to delve into the shell to add or change a disk, forget it. They will leave. Also, there is a bit of a chicken & egg scenario as only ~20% of my games support Linux, and until more people use it, and people who just want to use it, and not understand how it works, can do everything they want in the GUI, it will never surpass or even compete with Windows.
@DovahZeux
@DovahZeux Ай бұрын
Shhh, the kids think they know what they're even on about. 🤣
@darcydj
@darcydj Ай бұрын
the problem with Steam is that it gets rid of the old model of, “I buy it, I own it”… The Stem model is, “I buy it, Steam allows me to use it”. That’s a terrible model…. Yes people, Steam can strip your “rights” to a game on a whim.
@escain
@escain Ай бұрын
I am full Linux since 12 years now. I play games regularly on Steam (both Steam games and Windows-only-on-proton games) without any major issue. Windows and MacOS are just the topic of some of my nightmares ant nights, but happily left behind long ago. My pocket also noticed the difference as I use mostly Open-Source software (Blender, Firefox, etc.). But if you prefer SteamOS over some Arch/Mint/Debian/Ubuntu/... Why not!
@Cinarbayramic
@Cinarbayramic Ай бұрын
Its arch linux but mistakes are easy to make :)
@CsyeCokTheSolly
@CsyeCokTheSolly 20 күн бұрын
FYI, Gabe brought videogames to Microsoft Windows by porting Doom to Windows 95 and partaking in developing what would become DirectX.
@cern1999sb
@cern1999sb 15 күн бұрын
I'm blown away by Proton. I used it on my Ubuntu machine, and it just worked. Given Microsoft is trying to get me to move to Windows 11, and I'd really rather not, this really makes Linux a truly viable alternative
@Roxor128
@Roxor128 Ай бұрын
Proton/WINE isn't like Rosetta. They do very different things, and are actually independent. Rosetta converts one kind of machine code to another. WINE translates system calls for one OS into those of another. Two different tasks. You can combine them, though. In fact, that's what gets done on Asahi Linux on Apple Silicon for gaming. If you want to run a Windows game on it, it uses three pieces of software to do the task: DXVK to translate DirectX to Vulkan, WINE to translate the system calls, and another piece of software called FEX to translate the x86 machine code to ARM, leaving the game thinking it's running on x86 Windows and using DirectX when it's actually on ARM Linux and using Vulkan.
@photonboy999
@photonboy999 Ай бұрын
*fast forward to 2022* NOT exactly... Valve's Proton was accessible before that starting 2018. The Linux Community could USE and give FEEDBACK back to Valve on how the different Proton iterations were affecting different games. Steam Deck reflects a "good enough" starting point for Proton usability on a commercially sold product.
@Beryesa.
@Beryesa. Ай бұрын
2018 is also the year the dxvk (directx to vulkan in proton) project has started iirc. And it wasn't even made by Valve until they hired the developer and invested in the project, which is even more wholesome.
@DisruptiveHarmony
@DisruptiveHarmony Ай бұрын
I would switch to SteamOS in a heartbeat!!!! I am so sick of Windows, especially Windows 11. I am waiting for that time to come. 😊
@StephCromier_sorath72
@StephCromier_sorath72 Ай бұрын
It would be like getting a working chrome OS like eco system with steam eco system but open source and all that. But it would get there like competition for manufactorers to give them a choice ether windows or steam laptops and desktops. I see this as a official OEM steam release for the future. Ending monopoly from microsoft and apple. And some of that google monopoly too if you can call it that for chromeOS at least. Steam eco system and linux working hand in hand is what we need for sure :) And manufactorers should step into this deal.
@ViRiXDreamcore
@ViRiXDreamcore Ай бұрын
So what about nonsteam games?
@Casual.Gamer_0000
@Casual.Gamer_0000 Ай бұрын
I allready switched to garuda linux, and i can say, if you don't do stupid stuff, you can allready can play on linux. Steamos is just a cool skin that i would dwfinetly try out.
@TheLarinator
@TheLarinator Ай бұрын
I have Windows 10 on my gaming desktop, and it has plenty of life. I've got less than a year to make a move. I like this option.
@reaper15a
@reaper15a Ай бұрын
Just so you know, SteamOS 1 was available to the public for a few years before they scrapped it, and started building Ver. 2 for Steam Deck.
@di380
@di380 Ай бұрын
Everyone wants to leave Windows behind but where Apple has had horrible hardware choices their iOS and MacOs has remained strong. SteamOS would be a perfect substitute for gamers
@overskg
@overskg 26 күн бұрын
I would 100% switch. If I and many others wait, the statistics of usage won't get companies to make Linux software. If they get it to a usable level, and we jump ship, windows would stand no chance.
@WareSHR
@WareSHR Ай бұрын
Sounds amazing until we look at compatibility
@spicytuna5227
@spicytuna5227 Ай бұрын
when the first steamdeck that came out, I was kind of pessimistic about it, but just needing something portable and something like Nintendo switch, which I can put on the TV I can play with mouse and keyboard. I can use HDMI to stream the games just basically having the mouse and keyboard option native to all the games on steam is like very very big deal for me which means that I’ll be soon getting the steam deck to when it comes out which I’m very excited about it.
@pyiffer
@pyiffer Ай бұрын
Between Valve and Apple, Microsoft is going to be dethroned from being the “exclusive” gaming platform.
@JUAN_OLIVIER
@JUAN_OLIVIER Ай бұрын
I don't see this happening. People are comfortable with windows not just because of games but also with the windows environment and because of all the software that easily works on it. There are very few people that are going to install SteamOS on their PC so that they can just play games and not much else. People like their windows pc because they can play games and do anything else they want on the same machine.
@ZestyAsTech
@ZestyAsTech Ай бұрын
It will be interesting to see how much traction it will be able to get. Especially with the “Powered By SteamOS” branding, it looks like we’ll be seeing pre-built Steam Machines. I think a lot is going to hinge on their success.
@sergeykish
@sergeykish Ай бұрын
Windows 10 users like their hardware, would throw it away or become vulnerable after EOL. Most users want web browser, image viewer, audio and video player - supported on Linux.
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo Ай бұрын
that's the thing, they're comfortable on the windows enviroment because they don't know anything else. an old friend visited me today and asked to mess around with my pc a bit and he was stunned at "how responsive" it felt compared to a windows pc. because everything happens instantly on linux, while on linux every single thing has a delay, or a loading, or waiting. sometimes massive waiting. in the time windows shuts down, i can shut down linux, boot up again, and shut it down again before windows has shut down the first time. nowadays i feel icky using windows. it's like everything is covered in tar... sticky and slow.
@ansonx10
@ansonx10 Ай бұрын
It's a shame to see so many people waiting for SteamOS when Arch Linux and KDE Plasma have been easily available this whole time. People think it'll be a cakewalk to use SteamOS, but I got a Steam Deck recently, and aside from the hardware and hardware-specific things, it's basically an identical experience to "normal" Arch using KDE Plasma. The main reason people want SteamOS is because they don't want have to any "linuxy" stuff. But the reality is that you're still going to want to do "computer" stuff, and learning how to install mangohud yourself comes in handy. They want to be a helpless baby with Valve as the parent instead of Microsoft.
@TheAfinda
@TheAfinda Ай бұрын
SteamOS and the Steam Deck gave me the little nudge i needed to switch to Nobara Linux for my main OS on my gaming PC by showing me how well gaming works on Linux.
@UltimaJack417
@UltimaJack417 Ай бұрын
I don't really hate Windows like a lot of PC games do, but the day SteamOS 3 becomes available to the public, I'm jumping onboard.
@user-tz5uq2bt1s
@user-tz5uq2bt1s 22 күн бұрын
If I didn't feel like using Windows was necessary for gaming and modding my games conveniently, I would be using Mint.
@demiankeaough4616
@demiankeaough4616 Ай бұрын
As soon as linux supports the apps I use regularly I'm switching.
@nathanpremo
@nathanpremo Ай бұрын
Which are?
@demiankeaough4616
@demiankeaough4616 Ай бұрын
@nathanpremo amazon video, Hulu, certain games, stuff like that. Mostly it's the services that don't support linux, as opposed to linux not supporting them.
@RoboBabeXD
@RoboBabeXD Ай бұрын
It is the opposite, this software dont support linux.
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo Ай бұрын
@@demiankeaough4616 you use apps for streaming services? there are apps for them? i just use all of that shit on a browser.
@jasonwaterfalls6145
@jasonwaterfalls6145 Ай бұрын
Perfect timing for Valve. When Windows 10 support ends, there will be a lot of PCs that are unable to move to Windows 11 (because of the hardware requirements), that are still perfectly viable for gaming. I can see Steam OS being installed on a lot of those PCs.
@xisigma
@xisigma Ай бұрын
Do steam mods work on steam os?
@doovplayz
@doovplayz Ай бұрын
Yes game mods do work
@ChristmasTvGames
@ChristmasTvGames Ай бұрын
will it work on a windows 7 computer?
@gamingwithmars5420
@gamingwithmars5420 Ай бұрын
considering the issues still present with gamescope on nvidia its gonna be a while. cant say steamos is gonna take over when its main draw is not compatible with the most common brand of gpu
@Jeilds
@Jeilds Ай бұрын
So ill be able to play modded minecraft using SteamOS?
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@edelzocker8169 9 күн бұрын
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