Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and After the Bomb RPG Series Overview

[@delphidelion]

I miss Erick. Such an amazing person. I have no doubt he would have updated the book one more time to streamline things. One of the last memories I have is playing his unreleased game before his unfortunate death. He was an amazing gm.

[@ericheckenkamp6091]

Transdimensional TMNT is one of the best supplements for any game. And Amber Diceless is just a masterpiece. He was one the most underrated game designers.

[@derrickhaggard]

Currently part of a TMNT And other Strangeness campaign that may or may not go into a epilogue sequel set during the Mutant Apocalypse seen in After the Bomb or any of the expansions to After the Bomb. It all depends on the GM.

[@dubuyajay9964]

05:57. Probably a reference to the time traveling wizard lady from the original Mirage comics.

[@LordOblivion6]

Reneé?

[@dubuyajay9964]

@@LordOblivion6 Yeh.

[@Se7enBeatleofDoom]

After the bomb-like DLC became its own IP. Far cry 3 blood dragon of TTRPG.

[@JasonBroaddus]

Lol after looking back, no wonder as a 12-year old I could never figure out this game. Now in my 40's I wanna run this as a one-shot while one of our regular party members is out of town.

[@FunAtStreaming]

I'm very happy you started talking about TMNT and especially After the Bomb since i got the second edition of After the Bomb today out of coincidence and since english is not my main language, i also love to google what i'm in for so i don't have to read everything but can browse for the infos i need on special stuff only. Doing that brought me, a collector of strange/obscure/rare or old roleplay systems, right to your channel. And i absolutly love to watch your (well made) content. So far i had a look at the TMNT main video and the Mew-Tants one in addition to this video and i'm hyped to see another one about After the Bomb as well as more/other strange systems as well.

[@zigmenthotep]

Thanks, I'm grad you enjoy the content. And fortunately you found it near the end of the hiatus I had to take, so that After the Bomb review will be coming fairly soon.

[@FunAtStreaming]

@@zigmenthotep I'm excited to see it. At this moment i try to figure out how character creation for After the Bomb works.^^

[@nilus2k]

As someone who was playing a lot of Palladium game at the time. The fact that Mutants in Orbit was for multiple settings didn’t really matter. In my experience most groups were just playing Rifts at the point and using TMNT, After the Bomb, Ninjas and Superspies, Heroes Unlimited and even the Robotech/Macross 2 books as supplements for Rifts to increase you character creation choices to an insane and unbalanced level. It was a weird time

[@codeedgaming107]

This was immensely helpful, thank uou

[@Shatari]

I love playing After the Bomb and Heroes Unlimited, but I think the only reason I enjoy them is because we ignore massive chunks of the rules and houserule a lot more of them. They're a great framework for a game, but they're not good games in and of themselves. They're also horribly unbalanced, which is actually the best part of them. The vast power differences between characters is just magic when you get the right players together.

[@zigmenthotep]

That's probably the best way to do it. Palladium games seem like a lot of good ideas with poor execution.

[@deathstinger13]

wait, were those books listed at just 8-12 bucks at 12:38? compared to what a lot of TTRPG supplements these days seem to cost, that seems downright a steal. also, was this one not paying attention enough, or were there no mecha/robot rules despite prominantly featuring the same one on the cover a lot

[@retropuffer2986]

They just released a new hardcover with 72 bonus pages. I like how for two decades the book remained the same then after you do a comprehensive overview they add 72 pages. 😁

[@zigmenthotep]

Ah yes, boost the sales of a 20-year-old incredibly broken poorly edited mess of a game by adding the 35 -year-old supplement it's based on, and some adventures originally bundled with a gamemaster screen and tied to another supplement, which is not included. That's so much better than like, a revised version of the game.

[@MrJHM007]

​@@zigmenthotepthere is a couple of fan remakes, like "Mutants in the Now", and a DCC-fanzine

[@Okamooki]

Good lord, no wonder rpgs took 30 years to actuality catch on. All of those sourcebooks and yet you still had to buy the 20 year old core rulebook to get a full ruleset.

[@zigmenthotep]

Well technically if you want a FULL ruleset you need either TMNT or After the Bomb (2001), the matching version of Heroes Unlimited, and either The Palladium Role-Playing Game or Rifts.

[@Dracopol]

@@zigmenthotep The evil wizards of Palladium cackled and said, "We're going to make a multi-genre game, but we're going to split its soul into shards and put some shards in each game, forcing people to buy multiple lines of games to figure out what the HELL is going on."

[@Okamooki]

Like i get having nostalgia for the settings, but good lord the more i see these old systems the less i get people's infatuation with them. So much clunk in nearly every aspect. (Looking at you pre 3.x dnd)

[@zigmenthotep]

@Vale the key difference being that post-2nd edition D&D exists, instead of taking the rules from the 80s, encasing them in amber, and building a shrine around them.

[@Okamooki]

@@zigmenthotep *cough* osr *cough*

[@michaellui5108]

Amazing video ❤

[@shallendor]

There is a site that has updated the animals from the TMNT books to After the Bomb stats! I'll post the link, when i find it again.

[@mollietenpenny4093]

I actually have the Turtles Go Hollywood book.😁😄

[@mr7oclock346]

How did I miss these books?! I have never even heard of them before now

[@zigmenthotep]

Might have something to do with them not being very good.

[@mr7oclock346]

@@zigmenthotep Even so, I would imagine some of the tables could still be used with Cortex Prime, an Open Genre rpg. I am just now getting into Cortex, but I have seen old games converted over getting some new life. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on sole of these character creation tables

[@the_real_Kurt_Yarish]

@@mr7oclock346 The books themselves might not be very good, but they contain some really cool mechanics. They way Transdimentional TMNT handles time travel is pretty cool, for instance.

[@DiscipleoftheDumbOx]

I have a copy of the non-revised version that contained what may now be considered some pretty controversial and triggering content.

[@zigmenthotep]

I'm pretty sure it was still considered controversial content back in the '80s, hence why it was removed.

[@easterntrees]

@@zigmenthotep for some reason, they used an old version of the DSM as the basis for that section, leading them to design a mechanic where characters become homosexual due to trauma. holy 1950s, Donatello. I've never believed public awareness and disapproval of that inaccuracy was the source of the controversy, though, but instead that it was probably the complete opposite, that it was shocking in the late 80s to mention gay people at all in something ostensibly marketed at teens.

[@Bihli777]

@@easterntrees To be fair, the rules state that if you were already homosexual you would turn heterosexual.

[@n64head6]

Wow that's awesome man I just starting playing palladium

[@josephshriner2850]

The creators comments regarding sales is weird because it's the opposite of how I got into the earlier TMNT and the RPG. I started watching the cartoon and went digging.

[@zigmenthotep]

Well he needed an excuse for declining sales other than "the game isn't very good."

[@jarosawknas8947]

That was good! I will check is it worth playing in future.

[@zigmenthotep]

I think it's one of those things where its greatest value is of a historical nature.

[@AFMR0420]

Terror Bears forever.

[@jasonarthur5487]

Did ya get around to the video about after the bomb 2nd edition? Want to see if my understanding of the character creations process is correct.

[@jasonarthur5487]

Nevermind watched the review. Thanks lol. What I thought and saddened by it too. Here goes to home brewing.

[@gidofter_lukge]

How about a Pathfinder 2e Character sheet?

[@jamescook3817]

Personally I liked Night Bane over TMNT, I tried hero's once and broke the game. But I mostly played either Fantasy or Rifts.

[@bloodrunsclear]

I love that TMNT started out as a sh*tpost of bored comic artists whining about how faux edgy modern comics...and was turned into a gigantic multi-prong franchise!

[@chrisgriffith9252]

Reviewing a game about mutant ninjas, and the suspension of disbelief is killed with mentioning wizards in the past?🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@juliagoodwin9510]

Anyone else wish this rpg series went on? Damn licensing issues...

[@zigmenthotep]

Well licensing issues weren't the real problem. After the Bomb (2000) was without the TMNT license, and could have been continued. The real issue was Palladium not wanting to focus on anything other than Rifts.

[@juliagoodwin9510]

@@zigmenthotep So company chicanery then. Figures.