Zildjian Gen 16 Review

[@kyle3876]

One thing to keep in mind is that cymbals never come with their own stands.

[@johnwilliamson4366]

I just purchased these. Nice review. A few comments. These cymbals are designed to be fairly quiet. I was able to play last night with my wife asleep in our bedroom with no complaints. The reduction in volume from regular cymbals is about 80%. I have a sound shield and a tapestry on my wall as well to absorb sound. I have used electronic drumsets of one form or another for many years. These cymbals are great, this is the closest I've felt to playing a real kit on an electronic one.

[@rhythmantic]

Yes, I realized that after I did a some research. I suppose there would be no reason to want to trigger other cymbal sounds as the ones with the Gen 16 will suffice and would be recorded into the DAW as audio tracks. Thanks for replying back.

[@ethannorrish6346]

Thanks really needed this

[@jamesberrymusic]

Thank you for taking matters into your own hands! I recently got a pack of the AE 480's and I love them.

[@MayerEO]

@TheGradeZShow That's a great question. 1st, definitely they are much quieter! BUT they still do sound out quite loud if you hit them hard enough; but the sound doesn't travel very far. If you're not trying to disturb next door neighbors, then you should be fine. If you're worried about not disturbing people in the next room to you, then you could end up slightly annoying them!

[@ps100469]

If I could correct something you mentioned concerning "rubber" padded cymbals, they do have multiple triggers in them to get different sounds, just not acoustically. Most of Roland's cymbals, for example, are 2 way triggers and their ride cymbals are 3 way; edge, bow, and bell. Perhaps I misunderstood the point you were trying to make but as a TD 20 owner, I just wanted to point that out. Nice review overall, I was very curious about these cymbals so I am glad you put this together.

[@Savenger77]

Thanks for the review man.really needed to know what they sounded like

[@AquaAnim]

I think it comes down to taste, I think these sound excellent.

[@MrTyler8877]

i agree, but i bought some shooting ear muffs for like shotguns and range shooting. they work amazingly

[@guitarhero0123]

the holes are to make them lighter. Zildjian said that in there product video

[@guyswithties]

I've never hooked them up to an amp, only straight to headphones. But I would say, yeah you can certainly make the cymbals louder if they were plugged into speakers. Just turn up the volume on the Z-16 brain module, by turning the Drum&Cym mixer more towards Cym.

[@manishbhoir]

I think I found out the problem your having with the Hi-hat pin plugin out. It might be happening cause the wire is stuck in the bottom hi-hat cymbal hole so while the opening and closing of hi-hat the pin comes out. I suggest you pull a little excess wire and put something so that wire holds in. Thanks for the in depth Info on Gen16.

[@coatlecue]

A solution; spin the top high hat around so you have a couple of loops to guard against unplugging to soon. Keep the top one bolted firm. Other them that, very very well done indeed!!

[@MayerEO]

I got it at Guitar Center. So just search on their website for "Roland V Drums." Not sure about the mark. Because my Brain Module says TD-9, but on the website the TD-9 is $3000 as opposed to mine which I got for $2,000. I'm gonna upload an extended sound test today. But so far, it's worked pretty well with the Gen 16. :)

[@jjsd1996]

Thanks for posting this I've been trying to find in depth answers to why these cymbals are good. Not even Gen16's youtube page goes in to depth. One thing I must ask is, if you have these hook ed to some kind of speaker can you make them louder like that? I'm sorry if that sounds like a stupid question.

[@jonesygw]

I just bought these last week, I noticed the mount for the brain is of very poor design. The mount is relying on a magnet to keep the thing mounted on the rack. Did you do anything to make it more secure to prevent it from falling on the floor? I used some gorrilla tape to help secure it,which is somthing you shouldn't have to do after spending almost a thousand bucks. Also you mentioned your ride input was not working, What is the reason? Thanks. Gary

[@source1zero]

You're a good man for making this dude. I'm thinking about replacing my rubber CY's because they just don't have realistic response. That and the VH-12's suck balls. Anyway thanks again dude!

[@rhythmantic]

That's a very good idea, thanks.

[@MayerEO]

@jonesygw I agree, I had some problems with it sliding off. I honestly left it at is. It's placed under, slightly to the right of my hi-hat. From there, nothing is really able to accidentally hit it. Then I tilted the brain downwards where I sit. (Because the brain slides off when pulled UPWARD, when it's tilted downward, it sits on its own weight, unable to slide off) If you need a photo example just message me!

[@rhythmantic]

Can these cymbals trigger drum sample software such as Addictive Drums, Superior Drummer? I'm more interested in playing on metal as opposed to rubber, therefore the "feel" is what I would use these cymbals for and not for their "sound". Thanks for the demo.

[@IllusioneArts]

Where did you get your electric kit? what model? links please. Do they work well together Roland and gen 16?

[@tune7333]

use a pair at home..no electronics..really good for low volume practise

[@toubethao]

So i bought these same gen16 and did everything exactly the way you did (to electric drum), but I am not getting any sound from the headphones. Do you think it might the DCP? Should I contact the seller?

[@broke123]

"that's what she said"

[@JesusLordOfLords455]

Lol

[@Oportunidades369]

Thanks a lot for the info can you actually choke? the cybals sounds using it as a electronic cymbals? like to hit the cymbal and immediatly stop the sound.. im planning to get a 2box drumkit plus tose cymbals if they are good enough. thanks a lot!

[@cast390]

Glad I could help..

[@TheSleepyImsomniac]

Really helpful review!! Thanks man!! :D

[@RetroGameBench]

do those cymbals work with any drum module or only with the zildijan brain?

[@ZX9RDan]

He probably found the answer to his questing since he posted it, but anyways, here is a translation of it... I would like to know how to connect the cymbals with the module to get sounds for both cymbals and toms.

[@AlexChamp1on]

tape on the connector for the hi hat to keep it in?

[@MrDrumsPhilAmbros]

PINK DRUM STICKS??? I KNEW IT????

[@lowikeith]

how did you mount the 16th Gen Zildjian module? Did you use a bracket?

[@jamesharradine8375]

velco strips would work better ,easier to remove if need be.

[@spinach1999]

Can you use the Gen16 cymbal outputs to trigger the cymbal sounds on your other drum brain? I wanted to use the Gen16 Hi-Hat to trigger a TIPTOP AUDIO HI-HAT module

[@OnlyNoobsPlayHorde]

Ok, commenting at 5 minutes into the video, these are acoustic-electric cymbals, and it would be stupid to make them sound electronic by adding special effects to them. These were made to have a real acoustic cymbal sound going through an amp live (because these are too expensive to just buy for practice, just use your electric ones) instead of having a crappy recorded cymbal sound. I don't know why you don't get that.

[@gadgettfann5639]

hello dude, Zildjian had released a firmware update with a tone edit software.. did you try it? can you do a review for us please? thanks

[@mrdylantheninja]

i already asked on another video .. but how do u plug the gen 16 brain into the drum module

[@Mantazmagoracle]

haha cheeky 'thats what she said..' well done mate.

[@Andyjpro]

Every statement is a question.

[@mickaelperrier6379]

How to plug the cymbals with the module, to have the sound of the toms and the cymbals at once ? (Answer to him directly)

[@MayerEO]

@DrumDudeoneeighttwo anytime, man. Hope it helps in someway. God bless :)

[@MrTyler8877]

the cops cant do anything. thats like saying having a party in your backyard and having a DJ playing music is illegal. its not because my friend did it. i play my drums EVERY DAY and have not once had any complaints

[@limaribudollar]

Been searching for this kinda review on how it sound acoustically. I guess it defeats the purpose of having e-drum? I'm using yamaha dtxpress 4, not the best feeling pads and cymbals but they're probably a lot less noisier, these just sound like how loud a cymbal can be when its hit hard.

[@brandmechanic]

some - i was kinda hoping that my old hat pedal could be used as a second kick for the odd occasion...

[@Jacksmusicshack]

Very good review!

[@ynotsammy]

Me neither man, I play my drums a lot, but the noise level is ear shattering.

[@gosman6]

Hi did u fix the hi hat lead problem?

[@magikarpp]

thanks for the review : )

[@phenomeNEIL]

6:44 hitting it too hard "That's what she said!" (mumble) was hilarious man!

[@MayerEO]

only with the zildjian brain, but the cymbals should already come with that. doesn't matter which drum module.

[@limaribudollar]

I used these cymbals last night on a gig, feels great, looks great (as you said) but sound terrible to zildjian standards, even the stock roland/yamah e-drums cymbal sound is better than these.

[@djsnowman06]

haha that was awsome ... he said it under his breath like it was a nervous twitch

[@jjsd1996]

Ok, thanks.

[@cast390]

These are not midi triggers so no you can't, the usb out on the module cannot trigger any midi,the usb out is for backup purposes only.

[@papafish07]

There prolly fiber glass sticks i used to have a pair...there supposed to be unbreakable but i managed to break them lol

[@christianpaulroldan3662]

it comes with set. .

[@walidelaref881]

That helped a lot , thanks ;-)

[@hmr_cs2]

Nice job

[@cast390]

You may also consider using these to record your audio and then use a sound replacement software to trigger your midi cymbals.much more work in the editing dept.but if you dont care for the sound of the gen16's it may well be worth it.

[@IllusioneArts]

Thanks for the reply!!!!!!!! bruh

[@HONGKI2K]

thanks!!

[@Damian_Franc]

Nice Pink Stick :P

[@DrumaholicDave]

Am only interested in these cymbals if they are "plug and play" compatible with pearls red box module. anyone know if this is in fact possible?

[@holgerhahn8615]

Why would you wanna use those to trigger a brain? It makes all the advantages disapear!

[@nikhiljohn1045]

Does the controller work with other electronic Cymbal triggers?

[@holgerhahn8615]

Did you really watch the video?

[@leomgonzalez]

Using the pink sticks you lost a lot of frecuencys in the low and middle range, sounds excesive brilliant, probably is the sound that are you looking for, "pretty elctronic" I know I'm an idiot trying to obtain acustic sounds with an electronic drumm :p makes no sense, I love acustic sounds, and latelly I experimenting with elecronics efects, is another instrument, we can't compare. Thanks for the review man

[@jakehobbs]

can i just get the hi hat for my "real" set? and not use for an electric because the cymbals are still real metal and not rubber so I think they would work for normal live sets.... I saw one at guitar center and LOOOOOOOOOOOOVE IT!!

[@sarkmcbride]

lol @ "That's what she said!"

[@ImGallant]

Can i use it for yamaha dtx 700k ?

[@Wintersun729]

Do they work without this shitty box ? So can you put them into a roland box ? :S

[@ynotsammy]

People who want to play drums but not have the cops called on them will use electronic drums so that shit don't happen.

[@kjrdrummer]

You sound like Jesse Eisenberg.

[@nielsemilbechnaumann]

No cymbals comes with stands xD

[@christianpaulroldan3662]

same as a normal cymbals bro. .

[@KevinVanRillaer]

I think they're too expensive

[@ericjett8097]

The perforations in the symbol have absolutely nothing to do with damage control Lord have mercy it has everything to do with volume control. Damage control LMFAO

[@MayerEO]

dad?

[@MrDrummer2127]

Good video tho...

[@MayerEO]

@coco5843 je ne se beacoup francais! pardon!!

[@demonocusmetalocus3558]

I'll stick with my roland e cymbals

[@MrTyler8877]

i think it looks stupid with those cymbals. stick to an acoustic set.

[@bealbrit]

Hey Dude, I'll give you $20.00 for the lot.

[@geminijets1586]

bealbrit lol you fucking idiot these are like $500 dollars for the set and your (trying) to give him 20? lol poor cheapo he's never going to give you them

[@MrDrumsPhilAmbros]

HE IS GOING A REVIEW?? FIRST HE HAS TO PLAY DRUMS AND NEXT GET A BRAIN>>>>>

[@Blackroom502]

Bell!! Of the cymbal not dome! This is the worst demo video ever!

[@themalsabor]

waste of metal

[@holgerhahn8615]

No, it´s not!

[@charisdelumen3699]

This is not a review....