Genburten VOD Reviews FALCONS Bad Games in BLGS Finals Scrims

[@johng69er]

Have to give it Gen for being so impartial here and just objective

[@striderman-]

Honestly I think Gen is an actual professional. I think the way he presents himself doesn't reflect this, but when have you ever heard him talk down on another pro player/team. Even through the falcons drama he didn't really talk down on hal or zero

[@define2675]

He has his moments where he’s an idiot, but he also has his genius moments too

[@puckoster]

gen has shown that he is by far the most grown up and down to earth of the bunch so far

[@doobyitsred1784]

Ngl, waltzy went from one of the best teams in the world and became one the better IGLs, to absolute dog shit

[@ChrisThorne19]

Zero made him cry in an elevator.

[@b1slee267]

⁠@@ChrisThorne19if that’s true that’s crazy. I’d be damned to let anyman let alone one some damn zero do that to me. Ya kidding me? Smh these dudes be so weak

[@negative7271]

Waltzy aint even do nun

[@mist2498]

As if zero and hal are doing better!... 🤡 THEY ALLL SUCK NOW!!!!!

[@mikerusso8321]

@b1slee267 that was his past teammate sharky but yes still crazy to let another man make you cry in an elevator 😂

[@fischysical]

hal switch to flcn was the worst move both streaming career and pro wise istg

[@ss11777711ss]

more like falcons worst move getting hal when he was already in downhill trajectory

[@k1utchuhk]

Money wise Hal is securing his oil money bag while overall apex twitch viewers are going downhill. It's an understandable choice imo

[@TACT1LE]

​@@ss11777711ssdownhill how exactly lol

[@KalexVII]

Hal won NA Regional Finals in Falcons first tournament with Falcons being #1 #2 #3 in kills. The falloff happened once Newcastle became meta, but even then, Hals had the best career of any apex player so who cares if he's not doing insanely well now, he's been playing for years, made the bag, and has relaxed on a simple role for him. If anything, Zer0's mentality crumbling at their last Lan and Waltzy not using his utility properly has caused his fall off.

[@xReisk]

Downhill trajectory? You cant make this sht up, one crazy meta to play for all teams and Hal already in a downhill trajectory! fk Respawn killing careers now 😂😂😂

[@xavieracevedo6304]

There are 3 IGL’s on the same team, who in there right mind thought this team would work 😂

[@valthor9381]

at this point i think there ain't no way they aren't dropping waltzy

[@JayLebron-jo9db]

They won’t Hal will leave and IGL. He sees the viewership drop and the inability to win without IGL. He prob picks up 2 insane rollers

[@JayLebron-jo9db]

Zer0 doesn’t want to drop waltzy they would definitely pick up gild and they become a superteam it’s just bad chemistry

[@ItsClutchLmao]

@@JayLebron-jo9dbhal’s def not leaving. that whole idea of leaving tsm was all because of the money, he’ll hate playing for this team but the money will keep him. not for the people @ all

[@benlawver5]

@@JayLebron-jo9dbZero runs off every teammate he has, he probably won’t get the chance to make any more “super teams” once him and Hal split up

[@Skankhunt1]

All I hear from waltzy is Im selling every fight 😆 🤣

[@minorbutmajor929]

it's a mix of hal and the turd i hope they drop waltzy after lan such a waste

[@matthewfairchild3846]

Its honestly a 3 way tie😂

[@IXxhpnotiqxXI]

​@@minorbutmajor929 They dropped Gen for Wxltzy. Just admit Hal doesn't know what the fuck he's doing

[@kayjenofficial6799]

We need someone to play Maggie and throw an ult endgame

[@kayjenofficial6799]

Straight pinball lol

[@Stretchystrong]

​@@kayjenofficial6799would be deleted by Newcastle wall and do absolutely nothing.

[@thomasr5121]

The Mastiff is so unpredictable in close combat, sometimes it hits sometimes it doesnt....Hal does not seem like the same player at all.

[@Highskill3r]

shotgun meta is terrible in any game. super lame fights and yes.. worst netcoding as well

[@gctakeda]

@@Highskill3rI would rather take shotgun meta than aim assist smh meta fuck that

[@freemover1811]

​​@@Highskill3r apex Devs hate controlling recoil, so sick of this meta, literally no AR(aside from burst), smg or LMG are truly viable in this meta

[@TNSnellslaw]

@@Highskill3r shotgun meta is way better then the smg roller meta we had for many seasons, i love it

[@Highskill3r]

@@TNSnellslaw its both terrible man^^ but only because of aa yep... u know they could BALANCE all guns for once and not give us a super strong meta every season

[@milanodeschnitzel7495]

That shows that teamwork is better than 2 people with a big ego doing there own thing

[@kevinchang522]

zero dropping genburger is the worst decision of his life i swear they could of done better

[@RonaldC99]

The main problem with FLCN is them adapting to the new meta change. the current meta is castle/gib/shotgun which has a lot of shield/bubble fight and that prolong a lot of fight or keeping teams alive longer then it needs to be. but With the previous meta with bang/fuse/crypto/bloodhound, a lot of fights involve someone getting beamed and getting push with and that team dying quick. But nowadays you got teams sitting behind a castle shield/ult ,Gib bubble, Cat wall A lot of people is saying Hal switching to FLCN was a bad move it wasn’t it’s just meta changes is causing them to lose and not performing how they use to.

[@gemprotectororange5602]

every team had to deal with meta changes. team liquid picked up a new igl, and adjusted from the same bang/crypto/fuse meta into Gibby/Newcastle/Cat or Path, yet they won BLGS finals. Its not about a new meta, everyone is in the same meta

[@guy_above_me_is_ugly]

Some people just adapt better than others, and sadly, this ain't it for Falcons. They were dominant when they first formed, but once the meta shift and people began to understand how Falcons played, they became the laughing stock of Apex. I personally think it's a momentum problem where they HAVE to be doing consistently well. Otherwise, they just become desperate and make small mistakes that cost them games.

[@Ao_Kaze04]

you can say that Gen's reaction here is genuine. by the @13:31 wall deployed above the door xD

[@cristianhernandez1719]

Bro flcns taking off genburten was the worst idea of all time they should've kept the carry in the team. Genburten is the best when it comes to fights.

[@ItsClutchLmao]

yikes

[@mzshanee]

Gen is the best soldier for 2 IGLs. He never hesitates when his IGL says go. He’s down for every fight, he doesn’t think, he just shoots if IGL says we’re taking this fight. FLCN sucks, cuz they got 3 IGLs making minute decisions in their own heads, instead of just full sending when zero says go. FLCN deserves the downfall. Lmao.

[@Akashitb]

if Hals doesnt make a bank from Flc then this move was the worst move in apex history cause in terms of competition it is the worst , you left the biggest org in apex with the biggest fanbase , arguably the best roster( a roster with by far the best roller player in the game idk why this is a debate about verhulst) cause you had one bad lan to join Zero get last place throw all the blame to gen pretty much and stop igling which to me it already feels like Hal's character is gone since he aint even as vocal anymore . Nah man thats some KD move right here , all it takes is for TSM is to win a lan without hal and god damn . And for the record im a Hal fan but this move was bad for the pro scene and tbh i lost respect for Zero from the player perspective since he was the only guy to look at hal and have the right to say im better than you even though he never was ,he was the one trying to catch up to hal and then goes teams up with him ? thats some weak shit considering how arrogant he is .

[@notajetap]

i agree with most of what you said but i dont think tsm will win lan sadly Zap needs more igl experience he still plays too much like a fragger and that was their downfall in both ewc and split 2 from them winning. He needs to igl different at champs i guess we will see how it goes.

[@Shadysback1234]

You are, most definitely, not a Hal fan after typing out this shit novel

[@Akashitb]

@@notajetap i mean they did almost win last lan ... And they re looking good atm so you never know .

[@AwesomeGingersFtw]

I personally preferred the pro scene when the TSM/DZ rivalry was at its peak. Zer0 was pretty much the only IGL capable of talking 💩 to Hal, then he throws a lan with DZ (from memory, overextending on worlds edge overlook end zone) and sacks off any form of competition mentally by teaming with Hal. It’s like idk, cr7 and Messi in their prime. They pushed each other to do better and I don’t think either of them would’ve reached the heights they did had they of been on the same team. Also, chungus waltzy is in no way comparable to Evan or Gen when it comes to team fighting/damage output. The only thing he has going for him is his IGL background, which given he’s on a team with the 2 most experienced IGL’s in the games history, is rather redundant. He’s never going to be the one calling the shots in terms of what they should do or where to go, so what benefit does he bring to the team? 🤷‍♂️

[@notajetap]

@ Wxltzy’s IGL background???? Are you somewhat new to the scene he has never been an igl before ewc he just started being one when emtee left moist after split 1 2024. Wxltzy was never really good at igl he has always been an really good fragger you can go look at stats from old labs wxltzy always had like top 30 and high in kills every lan he just reached his peak in split 2 2024 when he was kill leader at lan. That was why falcons picked him up. Basically falcons team is 2 igls hal kind of a fragger as well and wxltzy a fragger. This meta is like the worst thing possible for their team in general. It would be a lot different if the meta changed and it was a lot more about fragging characters.

[@Lunchbowlttv]

The wall was sooo bugged. It got stuck in the doors ceiling or whatever, you can see it in the wall above the door way. Happened a few times to me while trying to wall a doorway. 😅

[@qiqueqiqi]

I feel like morale is super low and the ability to mess up isn’t there because it’s 3 guys with massive egos who talk a lot of crap. It seems almost as if zero and waltzy are scared to fight. They try to heal in the middle of a fight when it makes 0 sense.

[@austinhuang7896]

If they win the blgs final or algs champ, that will be absolutely cinema, let's see

[@allisterfield6028]

if TSM wins without Hal itll aso be cinema, if Guild win with phony its also cinema, if 100T win with Gen itll be also be Cinema....there's alot of movies in comp scene rn

[@villaexcel7522]

@@allisterfield6028 I never would have thought that Apex Competitive would keep me more hooked than a TV series.

[@guy_above_me_is_ugly]

Update: Falcons were 7th place, but TSM were 3rd. Liquid won.

[@mzshanee]

⁠@@allisterfield6028if FLCN win, that shi won’t be cinema. They’ve been so overhyped since they got that UAE money (even w Gen). 100T with Gen winning tho, that would be cinema and funny af.

[@curtiscoolio]

The team comp itself so passive when you got aggressive styles Hal should be off cat, off triple take and scout Zero and Hal can both first entry but gotta play off each other better and talk in 3v3 Wxlt should be cut cause not only is he too passive and reactionary but he’s not properly anchoring all the time Agree with the path comp, they should just frag

[@itszaque]

If a bad team makes that play for kp in game 3 they get cussed out for being idiots. Falcons 100% deserve the same smoke for plays like that. They could have easily taken the 1 kill and backed up, saving the duo for an easy wipe later. Instead they botch the team wipe and probably end up throwing that duo's game as well. I'd be pissed personally.

[@trevorwahler6514]

2:50 how do they lose that swing. Like ya they definitely gonna die but should have had the wipe first.

[@MillaQ9999]

Falcons are a tirefire of a team. Sure, they all get paid around million dollars a year regardless, so I don't think they care that much.

[@lushjuan]

You don’t really think they’re getting paid “millions” to play apex right?? 😂

[@XimZen-q3f]

@@lushjuan too bad they are huh

[@lushjuan]

@@XimZen-q3f according to google their salaries are 35-38K far far from millions my friend

[@lushjuan]

@@XimZen-q3f according to google the average salary for a falcons player is 35-38K

[@MillaQ9999]

@@lushjuan There are no public info about their contracts, but it's speculated Hal at least earns around million dollars from his Falcons contract. That of course doesn't include his sponsor deals or stream revenue.

[@hooptastic_hippie8522]

So people dont use the term "aped" anymore?

[@SugarHillGoGetBack]

why remove the r

[@TACT1LE]

Yeah, sometimes people still do

[@hooptastic_hippie8522]

@@SugarHillGoGetBack ??what??.were talking about 2 different things I think

[@hooptastic_hippie8522]

@@TACT1LE I hear "int"now..what is that short for?

[@roughlycan]

@@hooptastic_hippie8522 inting, its the same shit p much rushing them down or 'intentionally feeding'

[@griffinkessler5901]

Maybe Gen should get a visa before comentating on pro play

[@youngrootv]

Spoken like someone that doesn’t understand how bad the immigration system is

[@armaniesingletary8979]

Oh boy this guy has no clue does he 😂😂😅

[@MoldySquidFish]

First clip i see the frustration, 4 teams left and they’re wiping from third party while the last 2 are trading knocks, they should win but both teams just let each other reset, this meta is complete brain rot 😂

[@raweltz]

If anything, health advantage means shit in this meta cause a shotgun will kill you instantly anyway.

[@jelanirichardson5339]

Zero’s calls are good, 3v3s are bad. I’m not sure what they doing when it’s time to fight. When they are playing aggressive they do much better

[@mzshanee]

3 IGLs making their own calls in their own heads when they’re in a 3v3. That is what’s hurting the team. When Gen was on it, at least he listens & never hesitates or argues a decision. FLCN downfall is funny af. Lol.

[@insecQr]

They should just get rid of newcastle rez shield like lifelike and just leave an empty pull rez

[@NurseCloud9]

At 6:04 as someone who plays quite a bit of cat Hal should’ve walled their back off while they were trying to push that one door. They got griefed from the team shooting them in the back. The wall would’ve prevented unnecessary damage and prevented that team from easily apeing them once they finished the fight. Instead he died while still having the wall which was unfortunate.

[@NurseCloud9]

As watching more of the video, Hal’s inexperience with cat seems evident, he’ll get better with her I’m sure

[@mooncurve_apex]

I would argue with that tbh. It's too much util to finish off a duo. If wxltzy threw his Q and didn't take this much damage, they would instantly break the door and push the duo. And considering the fact that they gave up godspot, they would need as much util after pushing that duo as possible. And catwall isn't quite fast recharging ult tbh(3mins i think). Ofc i'm not arguing about Hal's inexpirience as you said, it's true. But in this exact moment I feel like he didn't do anything wrong in terms of his util

[@NurseCloud9]

@@mooncurve_apex yeah that’s probably true tbh, I was more so thinking there’s like 7 teams close by looking to 3rd party them, walling them off would allow falcons to reset way easier and possibly negate a team from 3rding due to them not being able to see where anyone’s at through the wall and having to blindly run around the wall. I totally agree though it’s quite a bit of utility to use for a duo. But if the alternative is death then I’d prefer to use utility

[@mooncurve_apex]

@@NurseCloud9 yeah for sure. But let's be honest. If wxltzy as castle stays alive, he just resses Hal and he would block every entrance instantly without even healing. It's just free reset in this type of building. No one could insta push against castle Q, bubble and 2 spikes with reinforced doors xd. And as for the fact, long fights in small zones like this will always be 3rd partied, no matter of how much util you're gonna waste on it. If there's castle Q and bubble, then one of the teams will just go in close, trolling yours and theirs game, that's always how it works unfortunately

[@iamreflex2565]

​@mooncurve_apex I honestly disagree with you only because the only alternative in that situation would have been surefire death. they also probably wouldn't need cat wall again for another 5-6 minutes since they'll be in a building. cat walling their back would have prevented a lot of damage there

[@deki5616]

To all people saying hal made a fckn bad move for leaving tsm like yall don't understand he join falcon for money that org is own by a rich middle eastern oil man it's already a good move 😂😂😂

[@juandavidr2517]

it's just crazy, Wxltzy is a weak point and doesn't bring support to the team, Sometimes Zero or Hal just drag down the team with stupid plays or decisions. Also Wxltzy and Hal have been dragging down the perfomance of zer0 as igl, and his confidence.

[@mzshanee]

They’re doing so bad, cuz all 3 of them are IGLs doing their own things in their minds. At least when Gen was on the team, if zero said go, he didn’t hesitate, he didn’t think, he just went, a soldier. Tbh, FLCN deserved this. Lmao.

[@WarnDaBrothers]

Hal is TERRIBLE on CAT 😭💀

[@AndsheLALA407]

I feel like waltz just isn’t a good fit for the team

[@armaniesingletary8979]

But who is? Dropped, Nocturnal? If they were to look for support they need someone headstronf enough to take their shit. In NA the best support players are kind of taken.

[@mzshanee]

@@armaniesingletary8979someone like Gen. chill. Follow directions. Killer. But you know… they didn’t like him. Lmao.

[@Uafoe]

Watching your ex teams vods and not your current team is a big red flags

[@armaniesingletary8979]

He does though...bro wtf you talkinf about.

[@Uafoe]

@ he literally said “Is that Timmy who died a solo” so that implies he didn’t watch it live and he didn’t watch they’re vod bc I knew it was Timmy bc I watched it unlike gen

[@keelezeibel5646]

He watched after Falcon vod, bruh you speculating while you dont know. I was there for the 2 vod review

[@KalexVII]

The mistake in game 1 was Waltzy not using tac FIRST isntead of bubble. If they bought themselves some time saving bubble for later, they could made the last 2 teams fight in their bubble for 2nd, instead, Zero instantly bubbled after reviving and soon after Walter wasted tac inside bub. But then they didn't play for 2nd with no utility. It's hard to make that call in that moment but in theory Waltzy tacs after being revived and they all sit behind tac for 5-10 seconds.

[@kingfisherrr3134]

Waltzy is a bronze player compared to Gen

[@Welshy0207]

game 1 wasnt on hal, zero shouldve called play for 2nd

[@TheMuffinMan789]

hal and wxltzy dont play their characters well, just meta riding at this point. The enemy uses castle wall to break their castle wall, wasn't a glitch. (@ 13:30)

[@abemustafa35]

The glitch was that the newcastle wall didn't form in the doorway. You can see it form above the doorway in the building wall. If it worked, they would have isolated and killed the guy inside

[@oyunboldboldbaatar5519]

Talking about falcons second wall.

[@abemustafa35]

@oyunboldboldbaatar5519 both Falcons and the Oposing party's wall did not form in the doorway, both bugged out

[@qiqueqiqi]

They really are so uncoordinated. They hardly comm anything that matters. They either gagglefck or are fighting separately it’s so weird.

[@chrisrivas31]

Funny how ppl complain about the meta but in reality falcons don't know how to fight a 3v3 no more plus look at them they scare to take a fights lol ..if tsm n falcons fight tsm is winning,theyfight like a unit

[@NN-oz6rr]

Brain dead take

[@herssel1145]

​@@NN-oz6rrFalcons lose 3v3s way too often

[@ItsClutchLmao]

@@NN-oz6rrthey lose almost every fight now 😂😂. what happens when you make a team with 0 chemistry

[@casull2041]

​@@NN-oz6rrbrainlet observation skills

[@Jgabyc]

Idk why Hal left tsm they were super good and it showed that they were super close as friends.

[@R1L6N]

money.

[@herssel1145]

They finished 17 on ALGS + Reps and Verhulst didn't want to play the game as much as Hal did, so he left to be with people more "compromised"

[@Jgabyc]

@@herssel1145 they didn't want to play as much as he did but now they are always top 1 its sad to see

[@herssel1145]

@@Jgabyc they're not always top 1 💀

[@itstentoes8408]

@@Jgabycwtf are you talking about lmao

[@ericlopez-d2t]

Why ain’t no one using mad Maggie

[@LIlFro-]

Good question. I dont think if it works against Newcastle walls

[@ericlopez-d2t]

@ not sure on main wall but to counter that you can shoot your teammate Q being bubble from gibby or new castles shield not wall

[@ericlopez-d2t]

@ I’ve done this before and that shit melts

[@itssheaboi]

Ikr especially with all the different shields and shotguns being good this season.

[@armaniesingletary8979]

Ive asked this too but i think the rez of gibs and castle are too good. I would use mags as a 3rd myself but man Im asking this question too

[@HeyJoe.]

Kinda feel like maggie would be good to stick new castle rezs no?

[@mzshanee]

If I remember correctly, I think her bitchass drill doesn’t stick to the knockdown shield, it pops off. But the devs, should make it stick. It’ll be a great counter. Just like Crypto emp should kill castles energized wall, Maggie ball should go back to destroying bub, seer Q should go back to cancelling res. Bringing those abilities back, would make this meta more diverse and even more fun.

[@YouNeedToHitTheRangeMore]

Zero making good calls but then he gets shit on badly.

[@IveyV2]

Bro look 13:39 the wall is above the door

[@piotrkacprzak2861]

I think there should be like 8 legend characters available for tournaments because its just a complete nonsense now with everyone plays Gibby, newcastle and Catalyst. Every game fight is basically the same sh1t all over again and on the end game zone its nonsense as its best, its completele unwatchable and I guess its uncomfortable for players also to everyime experience same fights all over again. No masterclass portal plays by Wraith, no rush or escape portals by Ash, no octane jump pads for same reason as Ash portal. The game lacks of dynamics now, all is the same schema and newcastle cover undestructible shield when he revives (while moving ultra fast) its stupidiest thing I've seen in this game. In competetive tournaments should be: 1. Lifeline 2. Wraith 3. Pathfinder 4. Gibby 5. Octane. 6. Wattson 7. Ash. 8. Bangalore

[@Z3NL1FE]

Hal not raging just shows. Bro gave up

[@mzshanee]

Him not raging just shows that FLCN money is great and he’s not trying to mess his money up. Lmao.

[@skeeveharvey6180]

I don’t think flcn is bad I think it’s just the meta it closes a lot of skill gap

[@NN-oz6rr]

This meta increases the RNG. That's it, and that's why it's so bad for competitive. You have final ring closures with 5+ teams throwing Gibby bubbles and Newcastle walls. You need an Evac Tower to dodge all that shit, and even then it doesn't greatly improve your chances. Its not skill based playing. Its just RNG at that point.

[@BrocNerd]

@@NN-oz6rryou’re completely wrong. This meta decrease randomness. It doesn’t matter where you are on the map, with Newcastle and gibby you have cover wherever. Endgames are like rock paper scissors, but if you don’t hit your shots you’re done. I think this is the best competitive we’ve seen in a whipe

[@tonyblackhawk]

Alot of it just looks unlucky more than anything else

[@ogounx]

Too much going on in Apex now…made the game bad

[@cubbian]

Superteam 🤡🤡🤡

[@mist2498]

Why TF do they always say "WTF is going on?"... when its final circles!? 🤬 Yall play the game 24/7!!.. what Yall dont fuken know its 5 gibby bubbles, 2 gibby ultimates, 3 newcastle q's, 4 newcastle ultimates, and catalyst walls everywhere!? 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ Even I can see wats going on!!!!!

[@RoyalPrinceRose]

🌹KARMA🌹

[@ourboyjesse549]

i think wxltzy is a throw

[@kingkoopa654]

Hal taking a backseat to his main competitor is peak e-sports kuck energy! What a pathetic move on his part

[@Gr33ny-media]

Falcons play agro pushing against a bunch of campers 😂

[@ty4lyf3]

--IGL 💀

[@striderman-]

Hal needs to chill,stop being so negative and find 2 players that will listen to him. If he can do this he would make a comeback.

[@davorsafranko8657]

Lel what comeback game is limited oxygen he's getting paid

[@yaris141]

video quality is mid

[@ben_jd4335]

Imperial Cry doing ur sh**ts

[@affentossepen]

Falcons Falclown Failclown

[@Shadysback1234]

How original, great job!

[@TheMikenow1]

Good

[@0keyokeyokey]

They cant keep up with the meta. Zeros so funny when he whines

[@Simple.Wordless]

Falcons is AI

[@Slam-e5w]

Hal should team with Keon

[@jwerle5241]

Zero can’t take accountability for anything

[@b7shoota]

falcons fell off after gen got kicked

[@UB00F]

HAL lost CEO status after leaving TSM 🤷‍♂️

[@seanelgie]

This meta is so trash to watch

[@sylgar45]

I don’t get why Hal plays catalyst. She does NOTHING against the current meta. Why not play something that goes against all the shields? Maggie? Fuse? Helloooo?!

[@GotDamBoi]

the final zones in this meta are so stupid. 10% skill 90% luck

[@LIlFro-]

That's every br

[@Icrmedatpie96]

Buenos Dias gen hope your having a good morning. My name is Dennis can you please unban me on twitch.

[@KittenShogun]

Yall saying superteam when Genburten left and Zer0 has always sucked

[@joshuajap]

Lowkey kinda toxic hes still thinking about his ex team

[@user-li1eg8xz7v]

Soon apex will be non existent and all these comp players will be no more

[@pgcorps3901]

APEX is dying, so I don't think what pro players and teams are doing is really relevant anymore.

[@vlixz4583]

yea this season meta is cancer

[@redbastard9711]

Gen being like WXLTZY SHOUDLTN A DONE THAT

[@jahkareramkissoon419]

Superteam btw 😂😂