Ziqo's HARDEST Mak'Gora-LVL 60 MAGE VS LVL 60 ROGUE

[@themaliciousrabbit]

In vanilla WoW, the effect of alcohol makes you perceive mobs and players as lower level than what they actually are. That's why the rogue shows up as level 59. Ziqo is using Rumsey Rum Black Label for extra stamina. He explains it in the video if you just watch the whole thing.

[@replanermilanov3165]

It's 60 in the start of the duel ez to notice also

[@Bob-kt6bi]

you can see the rogue is 59 off his portrait

[@markayzenshtadt7200]

Never knew it and got confused. It’s a funny detail!

[@chuckiswin]

@@Bob-kt6bi He's 60.. look later @7:40 when he sobers up.

[@sbonel3224]

Ok and who asked you this?

[@Garian9]

The Mak'Gora is the single most incredible feature Blizzard has added in years.

[@Imboz]

luckily for him sen'jin village is not that far

[@daclothes9693]

lol

[@Vourne]

And this is why the horde can't get anything going at level 60 lol. Ziqo is killing them all 🤣

[@robertkosa7283]

nah just all the midmaxers play alli for the racials and paladin

[@HowWeSketch]

@@robertkosa7283don’t horde have better racials with troll and orc though?

[@pi286]

@@HowWeSketch ORC is the best DPS race in the game at end game. But it is hardcore.. sometimes too much damage can mean your death.

[@mithrandirthegrey7644]

Rogue was so trash he would have wiped the raid anyway.

[@GniinG]

@@HowWeSketch Paladins just make all the hc raiding experience easier. Blessing of salvation for threat... Lay on hands... Hand of prot... and so on. Sure Horde can pump big numbers with windfury tot, but we're talking about HC here^^

[@robbytherob]

How to consistently beat mage as rogue: pick up improved sprint. Improved sprint counters nova/CoC and blink if you’re not slowed. Vanish counters blink, poly, and shatter. Blind mainly counters a guaranteed poly from mage or a blink with a reset. With prep in classic you can reset all three. So the flowchart looks something like this: Rogue opener > mage nova > rogue sprint > mage CoC/blink > rogue damage > mage poly > rogue vanish > 1st reset > rogue sap > rogue opener > mage nova > rogue wait > mage ice barrier > mage poly > rogue blind > rogue prep > mage ice block > mage nova > mage cold snap > rogue sprint > mage ice barrier > rogue damage > mage CoC > rogue damage > mage blink > mage poly > rogue vanish > mage evocate > 2nd reset > rogue sap > rogue opener > mage ice block > mage barrier > mage nova > mage poly > rogue blind > 3rd reset > rogue opener should kill here as the mage has no more ice blocks.

[@57precision]

Probably favors rogue even more at higher gear levels because their damage skyrockets while a mage's barriers don't scale.

[@relaxedpotato8425]

thanks for reviewing it and commentating what's going on. I'm in the mood to watch classic wow pvp duels now

[@red_bull1540]

That poster at the end. Going to be the 2. best movie of this year! We all know what the no1. movie is!

[@CapnClutch08]

The LIP saved you actually. He wasted his cold blood evis on it. 5pt CB eviscerate on a mage is easy 2k+ dmg.

[@TheWallsocket]

Looks like rogue didn’t have max combo points so he wanted that final hemo, but instead of hemo there he should have blinded -> CS macro that turns off attack -> eviscerate before blind wears off

[@bundleofhumble3119]

You acting like the Rogue was trying to save Ziqo. He made multiple mistakes and picking Troll over Undead is a choice when it comes to sleeping dust.

[@CapnClutch08]

​@TheWallsocket 100%, he didn't predict the LIP going for the blind would have been the secured win move. Either didn't think of it or he didn't predict it. But either way he played well. Was GG

[@x-hale2899]

"Ziqo's HARDEST Mak'Gora." Firestar will definitely feel this burn.

[@Tubes0n]

Great Mak'Gora. Kudos to everyone boarding to Brillhansa at lvl 60. Nice Editing though. Have a good one.

[@joshmartin3222]

The number of people commenting about the rogues level when the question is answered 4min in to a 10min video is astounding.

[@paulalan2106]

2023 mate people only watch 2 mins then burn out

[@razzar90000]

The entire duel is already finished by 2:45. I wonder why people might be confused.

[@justmedee]

how 2 watch video without split of car racing game cos i diagnose myself with adhd cos i have my phone in my face 0.5 seconds after waking up literally until the moment i fall asleep. just need a little bit of speed from doctor cos mental illness heuheuheu@@paulalan2106

[@Krith220]

or when you can see he is 60 at 0:04 seconds into the video...

[@PANDADBD]

yo Ziqo! love ur vids... had a question, so at 08:02 , you know now the rogue is gonna lose, most likely at this point... So, in theory he should probably know now he fucked up and he is prob gonna lose, couldnt he just stealth here and go hide for his CDs to come back? evasion/vanish/ blind / prep or whatever then re engage ? like, let you both reset ? or would that just be a bitch move / would you have been able to find him in stealth?

[@Ziqoftw]

Definitely the right move to just not open there you're spot on.

[@markarato8034]

Love when both players know what they are doing. Awesome duels!

[@Meisterzocker]

The Rogue not kicking sheep after 2nd block is hist first mistake. and not eating after sap was 2nd mistake.

[@Gellidus]

The fight was staged. No rogue that knows what they are doing are gonna open up first with cheap shot unless they are planning to gouge the blink.

[@Impossibly-Possible]

but did he? hes dead and started the duel off shiesty style on a rogue and lost anyways

[@Shadynastys532]

​@TheREAlHumanGames it's a Mak Gora fuck his drink

[@dieterbohlen2456]

@@Meisterzockerwdym kick his sheep After second Block. He literally used lip sheep. Rogues cant kick into lip lmao 😂

[@justinhuey7253]

Respect to the rogue for risking it all, and giving an entertaining fight. I live for these Ziqo Mak'gora 😊

[@liosan_42O]

7:19 that frostbite was so perfect x)

[@brand5466]

hands down one of the most impressive things i've seen in HC wow yet. you have absolute balls of steel dude.

[@Anthony54762]

What's the buff at 1:10 lasting 6 seconds or so

[@guilhermealmeida1245]

Brother, just wanna say that I just started playing wow, because of your videos. And Now I got a frost mage level 80 in wtlk, and this is the best game that I ever played in my entire life. Thanks for introducing it to me my brother! Much love from brazil❤️

[@GladiatorInBed]

Can you share your thoughts about rank 1 fireball dotting him instead of frost bolt frost bolt? Wouldn’t have been able to get bandage off

[@epicfail3167]

Take what I say with a grain of salt, I am not a pvp'er I think the frostbolt is primarily to avoid the countless stuns and immobilizations a rogue has If Ziqo gets the distance as well as a cc off on the rogue, he wins, regardless of if the rogue got to heal with bandage

[@Mixwell1983]

Im guessing incase he needs a quick sheep bandage/evocate reset. It's like rogues who use the dot poispn and wonder why gouge, blind are breaking. Important to know when and when not to have a dot on a target and he probably didn't want any cc breaking

[@Ziqoftw]

Love the username 😂on the first sheep it’s nice to fireball but sadly my sleep powder broke before it could land. Generally a max rank fireball, rank1 frost bolt combo is better though because a longer DoT

[@gdabify]

rogue accidentally tab targets the boar after sap cheapshot @2:00 so he lost all his combo points Dx

[@Mr.Sr.Jr.]

Didn't end up mattering though, wasn't able to connect after this point and he died before ever getting a finisher off

[@D0RYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY]

the thrilla in brilla. lolol. go get em champ

[@gille2k]

rogue did the right thing going straight for you. its about ears not etiquette

[@lisafan6365]

lmao the thrilla in brilla xD I love how many cool moments HC has brought to the community

[@pavelgruev2725]

at 8:00 how does he apply that cripling?

[@psyonicpanda]

Sap can apply crippling, right?

[@pavelgruev2725]

Oh I did not know sap can apply it in vanilla, and I also did not notice that he resaps before I read your comment. Thanks!

[@LizardoiL]

Mak'gora isn't a standard duel. 3:05

[@giveitarub7215]

Mak'gora means "duel of honor"

[@Hitmaster8]

Best HC content that I've seen thus far. Makgora is the shit! Looking forward to the main event vs the warlock

[@chmo7911]

Probably a stupid question but how do you get the pvp trinket in HC? Are other pvp items available?

[@andhen12]

You can buy it for 20g from pvp vendor

[@gnarlicbread5140]

You had a play vs his second blind although it didn't really matter, to counterspell the boar next to you, he might not realise in time and the boar would just auto your blind off :D

[@kidbengala8362]

Love the detailed explanation.

[@Supadupa335]

Is garrote still a 3 second silence or was the wotlk?

[@Enlazador9]

have you arranged it with the lock yet?

[@Spartainx]

Thats why Vanilla is og because the way u can use engineering , health pot and etc its making the game tricky and fun . Thats what i miss from retail . Btw gg , nice makgora .

[@ogniza9287]

The video is so good. Glad i watched it live also. But the editing and the music gives a nice spin

[@defaultname7685]

Thank you Ziqo for avenging the crypto bull run. That guy had it coming.

[@bluhd_gg4787]

For all the goobers casuals, Rumsey Rum Black Label. An Alcoholic drink that gives you a +15 stamina bonus. It also makes you see players, 1 level less than their current level.

[@mostlyrobotic]

That's an amazing feature. The dev who thought that up is a genius.

[@AlunethMaster]

onlyt hc content i will watch prob

[@OnePieceRooster]

It's so interesting to me that the horde doesn't have a big raiding presence because they are all killing each other in Mok'goras. It's like the actual lore, horde is un-unified right now. Who will be the Thrall to focus the hordes efforts? Or will they stay as a savage tribal faction, splintered by infighting. The narrative of Hardcore Classic WoW could almost be a movie.

[@timxiix3864]

Horde were the waaay bette pvp‘ers in classic. I enjoyed pvp so much that i always envyd the hordes because my teammates were bots alliance players in pvp.

[@jaredheuser8890]

I wouldnt expect the duel to start any later than the duel countdown. If you need to buff up and drink then you should time it so that its ready on the duel countdown. Did you expect the rogue to give you a chance to aoe him out of stealth since you can see where he is until the duel countdown ends?

[@Lion-fp7sw]

Can someone tell me what do the ears do? Thanks

[@DrDev1L]

It shows how much people you've send back to Brill.

[@Lion-fp7sw]

@@DrDev1L That's all? No buffs for risking your char?

[@michaelmller4582]

I need this sound track id.. WILD duel mate! :D

[@chrismcmaster945]

Was he using a nova spam macro?

[@DaFishBoi]

So wait ziqo is facing some warlock who is also a mok gora god? When is this taking place I need to know!

[@Gavinbelson]

pretty sure 60 lock dunks on mage.

[@yzwme586]

​@Gavinbelson they should dunk on mage or the lock is terribad

[@boredflower]

@@Gavinbelsonit should but Ziqo is a top rated player and overall good dueler with a lot of xp playing mage so unless lock is chanimal or snutz I have faith.

[@DaFishBoi]

All good comments but are they actually fighting? I would love to watch it

[@Gavinbelson]

really? it needs to be snutz or chanimal to win the biggest mismatch in classic dueling?@@boredflower

[@Cadaveri]

lucky spawn @ 7:37, knowing he was going to blind, could've avoided the bandage by pulling the mob ^^ Great duel though

[@maximiliandort3489]

It's a great video once again. Still, note to the editor - the title spoils the result. Missed it on stream and it takes away from the video somewhat to have the result in the title. The analysis after is fantastic. There's so much more going on than the average player understands on a single watch.

[@trappedIRL]

💯💯💯

[@EB-bl6cc]

it's crazy how little there is going on in vanilla pve, shit is basically mindless but in duels it's actually super complex and interesting

[@Schelebos]

What does LIP stand for?

[@Ziqoftw]

Limited invurnability potion, it’s like a blessing of protection for 6 sec

[@Schelebos]

@@Ziqoftw thanks my man! It's been great watching your mak'goras. Good luck in the future fights!

[@SamMaki]

"im kinda dead" presses lip poly with no possible counter play besides a resist. Ahahaha

[@TheWallsocket]

If rogue got eviscerate off 0.5sec earlier Ziqo was dead, if rogue used blind instead of evisc Ziqo would have been dead (blind would have outlasted the lip then he would CB eviscerate). Ziqo was kinda dead there, he actually got lucky with timing that his lip went off 0.1sec before that evisc

[@57precision]

​@@TheWallsocketrogue also massively fucked up by trying to use his trinket on nova instead of sheep. Several misplays as well as being the worst race (troll) and it was still close for our boi.

[@JohnnyrainTV]

whens the PPV match?

[@Moellerud]

Had no idea Alistair Overeem played WoW. Beating people up in the real world and the virtual world, cool shit.

[@Spyro-]

That happens to me too, everytime I see Alistair Overeem he reminds me to Ziqo lol. 🤣

[@L0rdEsedess]

@Ziqo - I've been Following your Grind since...Asmongold's Video watching your VOD about the Stream Sniper that FAILED HARD!!! EXCELLENT STUFF BRO!!! Keeper Moving & I'm behind Ya' 💯

[@JELKEK]

So a few weeks?

[@WalknTalknStevnHawkn]

@@JELKEK lol

[@Ziqoftw]

Appreciate it bro 🔥

[@bh-nf4hl]

Big Z is an insane gamer, but that was very close to death... I love seeing on the cam how focused, but worried Z was in this duel. Incredibly entertaining content.

[@57precision]

This rogue did a good job but had a couple of misplays. He was also troll which is the worst pvp race and it cost him against the sleep dust. My prediction is it will take a geared and skilled rogue to finally take Ziqo down. With MC gear and above a rogue's damage scales way more than a mage's defense.

[@Trattoretto123]

Tbh you can drink barrier drink then accept,every rogue would open there in a Mak'Gora,not in a normal duel tho. I love the confidence (and skills) to accept so many ones

[@DoubleDD428]

Is it BM to just sit stealth after the last blind to get CDS back? Feels BM but when it's life or death it seems justified somehow.

[@stealthyturtles]

Na its using the full extent of your kit to its maximized potential. The rogue could’ve won had he done 2 things different, 1 is eat to top off HP during the sap, 2 is wait out ice barrier and start the go when it falls off.

[@skreelthebarbarian]

@@stealthyturtles yeah when I was watching noticed he opened on barrier with 5 sec left but like 15+ left on sap, he was impatient and anxious and it made him sloppy

[@seventus]

Dude the timing of that LIP. 1 sec later and it would be over.

[@sAKecOkE]

Jesus Christ I think if it wasn't for that Frostbite proc there'd be one more living Troll right now...

[@tr1494]

Seen it 10 times already which is mathematically impossible

[@SpectacularRed]

I love how the plane on top of Brill watering the fire for the next Mak'gora 😂

[@Hozitojones]

that was close papi

[@Evilchickenhead]

Ziqo vs Magruix i can't wait

[@sneakytucky]

drink full then shield & accept duel and drink. waiting for shield cd is bm imo

[@odra873]

Yeah it’s not like mage isn’t op enough :D

[@王超-n4j8s]

damn it's close. The dust was dr'ed in the end.

[@usedcolouringbook8798]

Another falls under the executioner's bolt.

[@No-way-way]

Another one! congrats on the 9th ear!

[@colinlandry614]

When is the Thrilla in Brilla?!

[@Nexiusify]

The thing about the frost shield and common courtesy is it gives an already powerful class an advantage

[@konstantinosvasiliadis5958]

Wait im confused, up untill 1:40 he was level 59 then he was 60. what is that?

[@gustavr2618]

Most even duel so far! NICE where did lé baguette go??

[@Ziqoftw]

He’s been spotted in the forest after a terrible situation in SM. There is an update video on the channel about it!

[@0mastar]

Big ups to the rogue sending it against one of the best mages around, well played!

[@Sledgehammer003]

The frost mage asking for proper dueling etiquette with his OP barrier prepopped and an after drink... cmon bud :P well played !

[@NathanMc]

Etiquette in Mak'Gora. See, that's where you went wrong.

[@Gavinbelson]

Isnt blind technically physical? So it wouldnt go through the LIP right?

[@gnarlicbread5140]

it's a "poison" in classic

[@Deathreignx]

That Mak'gora with Firestar got you a new sub from Sydney, Australia! Huge respect and I thoroughly enjoy watching you duel.

[@Ziqoftw]

Welcome to Brillhansa! Straya mate 🔥

[@bundleofhumble3119]

Well played Ziqo! You deserved the win. Picking Troll with the beserk is a choice, not a excuse! The only luck factor is crits, so every duel is not entirely predictable and its something you have to take account for. He didnt eat afther sap, he didnt kick the sec sheep. He could have done things better and maybe won as well. Fact is, Ziqo played better and won, no matter the luck or excuses.

[@filipnilsson842]

that lip sheep was brutal

[@Supadupa335]

I sure miss cloak of shadows and shadow step haha

[@АлексейБаранов-з1ц]

Go EPIC makGora ZIQO VS. PSHERO

[@Dopedila420]

so u won him being drunk off black label?

[@saulgoodguy1840]

Mak’gora vs pshero when?

[@kalinoskill]

You could Counterspell Boar to prevent second Blind.

[@In7elligence]

Imagine if the rogue used magic resist potion in the beginning and waited a full minute for the opener so that he could FAP straight out of it as well. Yiiikes.

[@sidmonk85]

I was praying you'd melee the boar to break blind

[@EB-bl6cc]

would be cheeky but also might be against etiquette to use the boar

[@sidmonk85]

@EB-bl6cc rogue didn't let ziqo drink, already an unhonorable rogue

[@wakkablitz]

rogue vs mage a classic nail biter

[@drews3980]

Common courtesy?? MAKGORA BRO ANYTHING GOES

[@johnwild-st4ed]

🧢 people that say "anything goes bro" always crying the loudest when they get aoe'd out of every opener

[@KingBrewHA]

Ziqo vs Dchero is gonna be 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Martinistatzengeil]

would love to see ziqo vs pshero

[@michaelr3282]

PHEWWW, my man, I just changed my draws on that one! YO , my man I'm old and heart attacks, at my age is , RIP! DAM , well played but scary! Next? The MAIN EVENT!

[@Ziqoftw]

The thrilla in Brilla!

[@michaelr3282]

It was a NYMike angle

[@cooperdabest]

Awesome moves Z!!!

[@Chazzvc]

They should make it so killing someone with ears rewards you will all their ears collected +1. So if Zigo kills someone with 10 ears, he goes from 9 to 20.

[@Ziqoftw]

That’d be awesome, also if the ears displayed a total level of your opponents. A lot of people are getting them in lvl 20 with twinks

[@SwirvOut]

These vids make me wish I could play on UK realms. Just to witness in person

[@tistz8255]

Was he 59 or 60? He leveled up while duel :o

[@jujucasar2003]

cant most classes just run away from a soul link lock preventing him from getting ears?

[@ironchump1501]

And get 3 days of In game massive debuff?

[@-Maiki]

It's funny that the opponent went in thinking he actually stood a chance vs @ziqo 😂

[@MrBaumgratz]

That frostbite proc was kinda clutch. Ziqo killing everyone

[@austingore4248]

The cut looking fresh

[@Ziqoftw]

Thank you :)

[@ThomasBerglund-y8f]

in sweden this man is a national treasure

[@celzolsen8988]

he needs to go back. whites only for the ethnostate

[@bcisleoncool]

Reflector and helm are two must have items against mage, period.

[@jonasdahlnielsen9402]

Can you blind through LIP ? If yes, that would have been the move xD

[@mojotmn]

I believe you can, its a spell in era, not physical, that's why you can cleanse it

[@Evustavik]

yes you can blind a lip, always blind lips and laps if it's up.

[@dudaimradio]

Wait, how did the rogue start the makgora at 59 and got 60 halfway through? edit: nvm kept watching and heard his explanation

[@MC-rs6vw]

Always people in comments talking shit and acting like they are better. Please go duel Ziqo please. He has his name, server and stream so he's not hard to find.

[@davidthomas5562]

Another master class in PvP and why I’ll always be a casual 🙂

[@mithrandirthegrey7644]

I’m a casual and even I can see that the rogue is dog shit.

[@DisemboweII]

Two of the cheesiest PVP classes in vanilla... hardly a master class, just use consumables, frost nova and frost bolt ez. Rogue can be performed with a simple macro, like running a scale on piano.

[@quail9684]

awesome fight! big critz(iqo)!!!!