My secret strategy to beat Snutz in the OTK Mak'Gora Tournament

[@beefchalupa]

Man this makes me so sad. Imagine the timeline in which ziqo pulls out the win as a raid boss mage meleeing a demon to death. Oh, what could have been.

[@Popmycherryyo]

He suddenly BECOMES the thing he feared the most in STV. The paladin raidboss called firewhatever. Imagine.

[@HelgeM1407]

@@Popmycherryyo You mean FIRESTAR THE LEGEND?

[@Popmycherryyo]

Yeah, yeah, firestar THE LEGEND, hahaha@@HelgeM1407

[@holgerhansen4065]

That was legit amazing fking content 😂😂

[@harambemcnaenae4373]

Laughing so hard at the deleting frost res gear😂😂 ziqo you are a beast love sweat and hope theres more tourneys for yall in the future!

[@qqqqbbbmmmm]

lmao😂😂😂

[@thescatterpiratesquarepant7935]

Same. Such a savage LMaO

[@austinashcraft7911]

You may not have won the tournament, but you secured my prime sub for the rest of history

[@Ziqoftw]

❤

[@shoepuff2105]

Same, the commitment was real, mad respect Ziqo

[@Just__Kami]

Pog

[@oriondx72]

Same and i have never played wow. Seen some videos and Ziq is one funny guy.

[@mustardeetee]

Bro, this LEGEND put more thought and effort into a WoW duel than I have ever put into anything in my life. Had he pulled it off, it would have been the greatest story in classic. Shame resistances don't work the way he believed they would. As a long time mage-only player, I /salute THE BEST.

[@server1ok]

Can I add. Resistance in Classic does't work like it did in Vanilla. This video is proof that dots are listed under "binary spells" but dots were never binary in Vanilla because dots do damage and nothing else, and it's not a bug but more of a decision by the devs.

[@metouw]

I think what I loved mostly about the mak'gora tournament was that it had that early vanilla vibe. Back in the days no-one really knew what was truly the best (that's how I felt at least). You would meet people with the most random items and spec; hunters with int/sp gear and what not. There was so much in the game to explore! And in many PvP matches you would go "wow!!!? wtf was that!?" after someone used an item you never knew existed. These days min/max'ing is the standard and everyone knows what's BiS. Ziqo with all his "hidden tech" showed up with so much random stuff that would surprise everyone like back in the days. I really loved that. Respect for the time and effort put into the preparations. I saw the tournament for 6 hours straight and was rooting for Ziqo all the way. I never thought I would experience that early vanilla vibe again! Ty. I had a blast that evening

[@611kev]

Your strat should have worked, would have been beyond epic to see it in action. If this is a bug its a massive shame.

[@Ryan_hey]

Sorry, but it's well known by warlocks that ticks cannot get resisted. Only the initial application can. I still admire the sweat to get all of these items since normally, a warlock would get all of this in prep for AQ40 release. But that level of resources is obviously not available on hardcore realms, making it harder to acquire these.

[@Caseohbuncrust]

Sorry about this! I will have the wow dev team look into this issue! Thank you!

[@TheKingmanthe1]

@@Caseohbuncrustfake

[@server1ok]

"Well know by warlocks"

[@server1ok]

Tell the team to unlist "damage over time" spells from the list of binary spells, I mean, if you're not trolling @@Caseohbuncrust 🤡

[@markarato8034]

Its not the destination, its the journey! Honestly, these background videos are awesome, and I am so happy that this tournament gave us such amazing content to watch! Great video as always!

[@ClownWorldEnjoyer]

Dude if the strat actually worked and you raidbossed snutz down, that would've been one of the most legendary wow videos ever. Such and unfortunate turn of events. What an absolute chad.

[@Ziqoftw]

I was super excited to do it 😂

[@foxmulder7436]

doubt the strat would work anyway even if resistance did mitigate dot damage. Lock could just wand, use immolate and pet auto attack to wear mage down as well. Doubt the mage would be more efficient that the warlock in that scenario.

[@ClownWorldEnjoyer]

@@foxmulder7436 Except Ziqo's melee hits would hit way harder

[@foxmulder7436]

@@ClownWorldEnjoyer on the pet only. Pet can be healed by various ways and when mage is auto attacking he isnt casting spells. Immolate into searing pain spam will drop mage hp very quickly too, especially with mage wearing resistance gear with poor stats. I still place warlock on top in the exchange.

[@Max-eg7nx]

I kind of hate to be "that guy" but couldn't they have tested the shadow resist set / mechanics on 1 of the classic era servers before investing sooooo much time, gold and commitment into farming that shadow res set...Like surely you could have found someone who happened to have 250+ shadow res on the old classic servers🤔 Still I do respect the effort that was made

[@tianjiwang1512]

Omg, the level of knowledge, persistence and PURE LUCK involved in this video is way beyond my imagination, and I consider myself knowledgeable of vanilla wow. This deserves its own award in this tournament. Keep up the good work Ziqo🎉 Edit: And on top of this, Ziqo has all the skills 😊

[@christopheryou]

I agree your resistance gear should have been way more effective with vanilla rules. Something was definitely bugged

[@FunFunFun120]

Seems like locks went into the tournament being able to mitigate huge amounts of everyone elses damage yet their opponents not being able to do it anywhere near as successfully. No wonder they looked so tanky relative to everyone else.

[@adamhenry3928]

That's not entirely true. It would be relevant if people went for massive shadow res gear like ziqo tried to. I don't think anybody went for it. Sure people had SOME shadow resi from buffs and consumables but if you got low amount its pretty much irrelevant protection. SL locks are just blatantly OP nonetheless tho. Snutz is insane player sure but SL locks are just not very mechanically demanding class. It's a class you have to have knowledge about other classes and just execute strategy that isn't demanding godlike reaction time like some other classes. I respect those top rogues, mages, warriors, hunters way more. I'm not playing vanilla for couple years now. I've been very invested during Nostalrius era but I talked with few friends who told me about this tournament that's why I followed it. They were debating all the players and who's gonna win... I only asked - who's the best SL lock in the roster historically? They said "umm that's gotta be Snutz" and I said "Ok, he's gonna win".

[@DS-dh7vt]

It's just how snapshot mechanic works... Sucks but it is what it is. If you had 100% crit when you apply a dot, it will crit 100% of the time even if your crit drops below 100% throughout the duration

[@omegaduckie]

This is always how DOT damage worked vs resist. It is not a new bug. I was surprised to learn that he couldn’t resist the initial DOT application though, I feel like I remember that being possible

[@FunFunFun120]

But didn't he just show that it didn't work the same with the shadow priest's dots? @@DS-dh7vt

[@nvlzmks]

amazing video, thank god someone finally attempted to do such a strategy since classic era started in 2019, i was convinced its a bug aswell but noone ever cared for this issue in any way. thank you for shining light on this bug, i hope blizz notices it and fixes it. im 100% convinced it is a bug since i watched videos from original vanilla where people had way less resistance and got way higher partial resists on dot ticks. thank you for making this video and thank you for all the effort you put into gearing up and making this video

[@omegaduckie]

I played warlock for thousands of hours in PVP in vanilla. Once a DOT was applied it did full damage every tick. I remember this because I tested putting on demon armour vs SPs and locks but found it didn’t work the way I wanted. I was also perpetually frustrated that MOTW didn’t seem to do anything when I was on my druid. I do however have a vague memory of the initial application of DOTs getting resisted. It’s possible that was changed in TBC

[@CogniVision]

As someone who used to actually duel people using resists and eventually saw how ineffective it was against warlocks/priests because of dots, I believe it has always been this way. Basically if the initial damage passed the check, the rest will. It's as if once that initial hit gets the flag that it's a full hit the code disables the check. Whether this was intentional or an optimization oversight, who knows, but it isn't a new thing.

[@charlesread889]

Absolutely deserved to win it but it is rock paper scissors to an extent and warlock is so hard for mage. You’re a legend regardless and loved watching everything leading up to this!

[@kudohlol9379]

I dont know how you actively can be addicted to this game and go this hard for a old game, but i love you for it, ziqo you are a legend sir.

[@vannomanno1]

who wouldn't play a game that friends are actively playing, with tournaments, and a good amount of hype around

[@kudohlol9379]

@@vannomanno1 haha true it is probably a lot more fun with a good chat to talk with and your homies. 🤣🤣

[@accrx]

Well it's his job

[@Ohdeerhere]

i mean it was for a 100k highly followed public tournament at a game he's really good at. why not go hard?

[@gargaduk]

Very simple: Because it's a fun game. Age of a game plays 0 part in that, or why do you think people still play chess, tetris and soccer?

[@DannyRodriguez01]

@ziqo This isnt the way it was in 2019 classic Vanilla. I had a warlock with nearly 300 resist gear sets in nearly every element. I would never get affected by locks or shadowpriests when I wore mine. I found myself needing to use it while farming elemental water in azshara because of all the priests farming that area. Same with nature for druid/sham. That is totally not working as intended.

[@zz10arf]

Yem all the way up to season 4 TBC also.

[@ReavenM1911A1]

Source? Any clip or footage or you just making it up

[@zz10arf]

Source is memory. NO spreadsheets or websites clips or footage for vanilla. You could probably go back to TBC forums if they are archived and find complaints of shadow res being used in arenas in TBC.

[@nathancasey7712]

​@@zz10arfYeah but op talking about 2019 classic

[@steffennilsen2132]

In vanilla, I had the black book (bwl warlock pet trinket) as it was back then, it made a demonology felhunter capable of soloing casters due to its obscene resistances.

[@awdswds1988]

You’re an inspiration to me Ziqo! Been glued to your content. I’m truly impressed with the amount of thought and preparation you put into the tourney!

[@Danimal_Media]

This one's a juicer 😂 where your head went for the warlock dominance was insane. I wish it wasnt bugged and you pulled it off

[@mggirard13]

Bugged?

[@romnesia7729]

​@@mggirard13 Yep. In nostalrius it worked that way, and in vanilla classic it did too. Old pvp videos have alt sets

[@350zKiller]

@@romnesia7729 so then how is it bugged? It’s normal to be able to switch gear for different match ups

[@romnesia7729]

@@350zKiller The gear switch doesn't work on classic. Because that alt shadow res set would make locks useless

[@350zKiller]

@@romnesia7729 that’s weird I thought you were aloud to change them in combat in classic

[@server1ok]

Hi Ziqo. I had more partial resist in Vanilla with a + 60 aura, than you have in Classic WoW with + 300 resist. This is not a bug but something that the Classic devs didn't code properly. ( the Classic client is "Legion" ) This is how a dot works in Vanilla --> 1. Either hit or miss. 2. If hit ? then roll again to check vs. the resist minus your pen. 3. If the 2nd roll is a hit ? then check for a partial resist. A Zero - 25 % - 50% or 75 %. 4. A 100 % partial is not allowed vs. subsequent ticks. 5. On subsequent ticks, a hit roll is not checked but the partial resist is in play. ( this is point 4 in a clear wording ) *Important side note* Frostbolt is a binary spell because of the slow effect. ( hit or miss, no partials ) Firebolt is not a binary spell because the after effect is just damage. Dots are not binary spells in Vanilla because the after effect is just damage. The issue is = Dots are treated like binary spells in Classic WoW. This needs a fix. GG Ziqo. Oh well .. goodvibes

[@effortlessGFX]

Nah this amount of work is insane. Major props to you.

[@-.-okay]

FYI I made the full Stygian set on Skull Rock alliance. There were 3 Alliance tailors who made it. Took less than 20 minutes and under 10g, but we scrapped it pretty early for the same reasons. We had exactly the same strat as rogue into snutz with double demonslaying + elixer. We also had a frost res set verse mage that took me a week to collect. This is part of the reason why perp could have taken the whole tourney had he not got a bad bracket and terrible RNG verse Sonii. But that's the nature of Wow classic.

[@LEEROYY182]

Dude I'm retired from WoW but watched the tournament, this is amazing 🤣 you deserve an in game character or something just for this effort. Gonna go sub on twitch now. Big love from the UK 🇬🇧

[@rodfarva6749]

I'm really impressed with all the side hustles you did to get your char ready for the tourney.

[@mattk2308]

Most of that gold was given to him because of his status. Not a free and fair tournament. Only those with 100s of helpers stood a chance.

[@blargblarg-jargon9607]

sounds like real life tournaments wow!@@mattk2308

[@knolifer]

@@mattk2308I don’t think any of the competitors even had the skill to keep up with ziqo and snutz. Ziqo’s sweat was purely for snutz anyways. All the other competitors were never gonna make it skill wise

[@Urthy]

This video was so inspiring tbh lol. You’re a monster bro! Great plan and tenacity. Sucks it didn’t work

[@sticqeno288]

Nah, brother, you're different. You have my respect. Love learning from you. Keep going.

[@Smashachu]

Ziqo: I spent 100s of hours preparing to fight snutz after spending thousands of gold Snutz: Maybe i should get an intellect elixir just incase.

[@Johnny_Bea_Good]

Wow. Every PvP battle I've been in has always been a DPS race. This is NEXT level!

[@spsawyer22]

Man...the sweatiness on top of the skill is why youre one of the GOATs

[@simian8528]

I would have loved to see the melee mage pulverizing his opponents

[@nikolaydutskinov5194]

Ziqo me and my friends have been fans and following you since you pumped mistst of pandaria arenas back in the day. It's really great to see you getting more recognition lately. Well deserved my man Z, feeling very proud of you! You deserve it all and you are our true king of the tourney

[@Ziqoftw]

❤️❤️thx

[@payrate]

I don't even play this game or have the slightest interest in its auxiliaries, but you make me watch a whole video of something I don't even know anything about. Subscribed, liked and commented!

[@tomtodd7020]

I'm like 90% sure there was partial DoT resist damage back in Vanilla. Thats brutal.

[@l.a.w.5738]

100% sure, I am classic r14 on warrior and WL and it was def a thing

[@DS-dh7vt]

@@l.a.w.5738 pretty sure it's just how the snapshot mechanic works. When applying a dot, it will check against the resistance of the target. If the first tick isn't resisted at all, it will continue for the rest of the dot without being resisted, as the first tick cleared the resistance and it snapshots the rest of the dot. If the first tick is resisted, the rest of the ticks will 'roll' against the targets resistance, again, snapshotting the initial application perameters

[@TimeTraveler-hk5xo]

Partial resists can 100% happen mid dot. I remember it happening lots on my night elf vs poison ticks from mobs. I remember this, because I wondered for the longest time why I was resisting, cause I forgot night elves have NR.

[@Ryan_hey]

@@TimeTraveler-hk5xo Warlock main for all my life here. It's not a thing at all with warlock dots. Once you get a DoT applied, it will never fall off, nor will any ticket get resistance.

[@trorisk]

Binary and non-binary spell... It's a 20years old knowledge. SW:P (Like all DoTs) is a binary spell, with his gear he has something like +80% resist on the application ( we see that the priest is almost oom when he managed to apply the dot on Ziqo). But once it is apply it's 100% damage per tick. A binary spell (with an effect other than damage like Death Coil and Mind Flay or Frostbolt which applies a slow or a fear + All Dots) its damage is "all or nothing". Non-binary spell (direct damage and not apply an other effect) can be reduce. This difference is particularly visible in mage between the frostbolt (binary) and the fireball (non-binary). It's always been like this on vanilla.

[@kodysullivan7582]

Getting partial resists based off the RNG of whether or not the first tick of the DoT resisted damage just doesn't sound right. That's like reaching into one of two buckets blindfolded -- 1 filled with gold and 1 filled with mustard, and after sticking your hand in the bucket filled with mustard (based off of RNG,) Blizzard just takes away the bucket filled with gold and you just gotta keep dipping your hand in mustard now. Lol. Great explanation vid and performance throughout the tourney tho Ziqo! New fan here!

[@Pola509]

Holy smokes....this tournament was definitely super hardcore and only for the best!

[@ogjuggalo4671]

Only for streamers that have mass amounts of people helping them and giving them gold n gear you mean...

[@MastaGambit]

@@ogjuggalo4671 Look, I understand and sympathize with your jealousy, believe me I do, but you have to understand: Nobody whose ever made it big did it solely on their own effort alone.

[@ogjuggalo4671]

@@MastaGambit lol all which stream you a fan girl of that made that comment hurt your feels that much, did they give you a mustache ride? it's cute tho seeing men simp over someone that plays video games all day

[@Baulder13]

I cannot imagine the thousands of gallons of sweat that went into this tournament.

[@Youtubegrt]

This was such a great strat and you're amazing. Then you said you bought all the cold resist rings and sold them... It was at that point I subbed. Legend.

[@martinpedersen2650]

Holy shit, Ziqo living in a sauna sweating so much.

[@codymurphy1918]

You’re the GOAT. Insane efforts for the tournament, tip of the cap to you and all the other constituents that helped you grind.

[@tridec6326]

As a Warlock main in Vanilla I'm sure this is how resists worked back then too. You could definitely build gear sets to counter casters using other damage types because non-DoT spells would frequently fully resist but DoTs would apply and tick just fine. It did make it generally pointless to cast shadow bolts but that is all.

[@Pohpoh90]

I love to see how sweaty you approached the tournament :p I know of another bug back when WoD came out (I think), they had to downscale health and with it came some bad coding where I as a level 19 twink frost mage could literally kill a max level bis geared player with 4 to 5 frostbolts. Also, Any resistance against dotting was only for the application of a dot... 300 res would have meant 80% resist but once the dot was applied, it did 100% of it's dmg. At least that is what I remember from how it used to be

[@krovdizzle]

I didnt know you b4 that tournament preparation started, that was so fun to watch, the journey. I like your takes on the game, keep having fun my dude!

[@ghaleon_5485]

Shadow res def used to have partial resist on dot’s. I remember vividly fighting Shadow Priest, & SL/SL Warlocks comps in 2’s in season one in TBC and it was a 100% a counter & there was nothing they could do, early on when that comp was OP in season one before any of these changes.

[@Dominickj821]

This needs to be a PSA for those Reddit’s crying about it being rigged!

[@arnaudnono951]

yeah this little men crying on reddit dont understand how many hours and start ziqo and snutz (and other) put on this tournament. is like "ouinnn ouinnnn im stronger than ziqo and snutz but i dont have community for help me and gold" pffff this guy got delete like you slap a mosquito on the wall xD

[@SoothingMusic883]

He also put in those hours dummy, but he was nerfed cause he didn't have people carrying him through dungeons and giving him thousands of gold, what about that does your peabrain not understand?@@arnaudnono951

[@mayainverse9429]

@@arnaudnono951 the point of their argument wasnt that its rigged. it was that really only streamers who can mobilize alot of assistance are able to even partake in the tourne. no one said these guys are lazy or bad at the game but if ziqo didnt have the insane amount of help that he did he would have 1/5th the gear he showed off in this vid. i mean i don't really care i have full time job not even a lvl 40 char yet and i started before tourney.

[@josef4852]

The mind blast partial resists always worked like that. The difference with frost bolts is that when a spell has a slow/cc even partly they don't partial resist but either miss or hit for full. Mana burn feels like an oversight and dots seem just bugged tho... I wonder why ppl weren't using frost resistance sets against mages tho since that should work fairly well but maybe they'd just lack damage and you don't rly need it on lock.

[@romanskokan7238]

Huge pity it didn't work. We got denied an epic spectacle to remember all life long. Hats off for the idea and the effort.

[@jesseblake3517]

idk out of everyone in that tournament, you were the best to watch. I never heard about you until 2 weeks into the OTK tourney and now i watch you everyday lol

[@Gudwin2334]

Outstanding video dude. Great info for the developers to improve the next iteration of classic!!

[@anboniwow]

DoT application is supposed to be binary but the ticks could never partially resist. That's how it was in original Vanilla. In Classic however, DoTs have been bugged with resistances since it came out... :(

[@mediumfalse]

Mak'gora MVP award right here for dedication and excellence in prep work. Including a (possible) 🐞 report contribution on a core aspect of the game. 👏

[@roberteltze4850]

I had wondered why you didn't pull out a shadow resist set. Now you're showing us that you're way ahead of the rest of us mortals.

[@Ixxlostinabox]

Bro buying and deleting the frost rings made me crack up, that is some next lvl crazy hahaha I commend you for going that hard for this tournament what a absolute chad

[@Virtua..]

Aw would have loved to see that. Also wish I could see a melee mage DPS check with full coolies and consumes

[@tevildo1718]

Weird it should have worked! Your strategy would have worked in the past very strange... The application of the dots should also be resisting more... however as far as I know the ticking of damage over time effects will always do full damage no matter your resistance. Partial resist is only for direct damage spells like shadow bolt. Well played on the tournament!

[@trivial50]

no he does show damage from dots partial resisting, but it is RNG whether it can roll for it. Sometimes a dot will never have partially resisted ticks and will never check for them, sometimes it will.

[@danyo6938]

We need to see this build working on a private server or something. The duel would have been LEGENDARY.

[@grayjax]

still proud of you brother

[@damnoh2940]

Im still convinced that in a 50/50 fight Ziqo will sink Snutz. Unlucky final matchup.. (and no i am not Ziqo fan)

[@tigeryumyums9407]

Doubtful. Both are equally skilled, and warlock still takes that matchup.

[@MC-nt7jz]

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[@raidbossnunu]

Sad that it didn't work out, but the dedication is impressive ☺️☺️

[@oreohachiko]

D4 has broken resists and now WoW has broken resists. Bravo Blizzard

[@bryanglover757]

Now? This shit is 15 years old

[@Seinglede]

To be fair, while I can't say for sure with the DoT's, all the other spells he showed are working as intended. There are two different resist tables that spells can roll against. Binary spells, typically ones with bonus effects, have their hit rate reduced by resistances but if they hit always hit for full damage. Meanwhile, pure damage spells will have their damage reduced by an average amount by resistances in 25% increments. This was only changed in Wrath of the Lich King. Resists worked this way all the way through TBC as far as I know. Damage over Time does seem bugged though. The fact that SW;P seemed to have normal hit-rate and also deal full damage is definitely not the intended behavior.

[@BaronMage]

Buying And deleting the frost resistance rings made me LMFAO.

[@ricoburger89]

Came here from the asmon clip! BIG Props to this vid dude ! really nice to see how you did the set up! keep it on ! you are definitely one of he coolest nicest wow streamers out there! Greetings from Switzerland!

[@wesesheskhnemtuhit]

Amazing how deep your strategy went. Big respect.

[@Snowkone11]

Mad props!! Love all the homework and how you went into the think tank! You've gained yourself a sub! #EUBOYS

[@steeben009]

Hi all. I did these kind of things too, like all of what he is saying, except for other items, but i spent days, months, hours.....and hours in months to get stuff that has also like 0,2% chance. Though I must say I was a bit more lucky then this guy I think. Much respect though, but you are not the only one! I want to send this guy a personal message how much respect I have for him. omg

[@Roxxdeady]

Man? Your prep/studies? 4ME? You won this Tournament! Hands down to Ziqo! „Salute“

[@macuys]

Damn! Impressive Ziqo. Blizzard should compensate you for all the gp you spend acquiring the shadow resist set. And compensate you or make an NPC of you in game if it is indeed a bug on their part. Blizzard probably did not anticipate somebody able to gather all the gear you farmed and equipped it all at once. Then after resist mechanics is fixed there should be a rematch with Blizzard putting up the purse prize for the contest.

[@Szehkzee]

I'm new to wow, currently playing retail for 3 months. This is crazy to me, applaud the hustle.

[@dng4679]

The way people navigate this game is so fascinating. Love it

[@asdhaslf]

Omg that twilight scroll story is amazing

[@OMFGWTF01]

yoo ziqo me and my brother were rooting for you, favorite in our eyes. we even had a nickname for you "the pet killer". legendary performance, for me personally you're a big reason why this here tournament was the best competitive wow i've ever watched

[@jordohiz1493]

Really clever line of thinking, for sure. Yo, I was a r13 (1wk from 14, weapons weren't worth it remember? xd) mage, I remember getting fucked by warlocks, we had shadow res from aq40, that shit sucked... But despite my equivocation, you are the same animal but an unspeakable horror of a beast. A mage who has died and reborn a thousand times. Loved watching u play b4 u got assassinated by the CIA in gurubashi arena because I remember what it was like to have engi at just enough to get rocket helm and rocking the level 40 mount alllll the way to rank 11 bc I just wanted to pvp. I don't know if that freewheeling joy can come back (for myself, no. For you?) but u have that ambition and killer instinct that set Kobe (cheesy? fuck em. parmesan) apart. Maybe the tournament gave that to u, maybe u had it all along, maybe ur fried, maybe this is just the beginning... Same animal, similar beast, and then the duels?! Chef's. Fucking. Kiss. We'd fuck around with a dust or two to get an edge for fun and chucking grenades to kill nerds was both try hard and elite, but this scene... This mage... Nothing like this existed b4. I don't think Snutz redefined Warlock gaming, these other players were very fucking good, but to my eyes, there are Priests, Warlocks, Mages, Hunters, Rogues... And Ziqo. Give this man 13,000 bucks Can u come back? Or can u only move on? Idk bro but the last few months have been ur Mona Lisa 🫵💅👐

[@chrischarles9218]

That is messed up. Man, I would have loved to see the melee mage thing 😆

[@Schismatise]

Spell hit has always been separate to resistances, at least in classic. If you're relying on vanilla tech this late in the game that's kind of on you xD love your work though, big props, GG duels. The DoT interaction with partial resistances relying on the first tick definitely sounds like a very typical classic bug though yeah.

[@mojotmn]

Dot is binary cast, it's either you resist it completely when being casted or you take the dot cast and take all the dot ticks. Unfortunately, that's how it works in era. Also, when you are res capped its still a chance of 75%, so you will 'probably' get 1 of 4 dot casts. So mathematically it's better to go around ~120 shadow res and stack pen, and spell power. So this seems like really somewhere in between era and tbc and has to be fixed.

[@masterbeernuts9344]

Wow man unlucky. Had no idea you went this deep. From sheer effort alone you deserved the $50K. Props to u Ziqo.

[@markxv2267]

Snutz went deeper

[@Kurupt-Seven-Six]

Classic era just keeps on giving. The classic content has been awesome.

[@zhelunma9817]

OMG I love this content so much. Things behind the screen is always attractive.

[@georgeconnley2236]

Very interesting video! thanks for making it Ziqo

[@golvellius6855]

best strat is to play as warlock or even ask that warlock friend and test prior strats. love everything you do ziqo well played!

[@koezy3841]

ziqo you are a DEMON buying res gear just to destroy it 🐐

[@Sam-es2gf]

For what it's worth, you could resist an initial dot application in vanilla for sure. i was a sweaty shadow priest and warlocks annoyed me, so I'd have shadow reflector, shadow prot, some other stuff but nowhere near cap and still regularly resist. you could always partially resist dots, this was part of why sp's were so weak to locks specifically. 0 idea when it was changed

[@heyLuhz]

your youtube uploads are killer brother, easiest sub of my life

[@Jesse-ry5zy]

Just wanted to say mate i didnt like watching your content due to streamer privlages but seeing how you played through the tournament i was definitley wrong and you gained a fan and a sub, amazing work mate

[@Ziqoftw]

Thank you, glad to hear you enjoy the content

[@Failerist]

I never gave a shit about pvp about WoW back when I played. I had a 15 year break and I still don’t give a shot about it. But man am I enjoying seeing you loving it and try so hard 👌💪💪

[@Ohleo91]

That 20 min vid was a blur. It was so interesting to watch. Thank you!

[@akin65]

man respect to be that patient, crazy work you put in there, appreciate it

[@Muffinmouth]

My man was born a hustler! Mad respect

[@NGUNOW]

I aways knew something is wrong with shadow damage and shadow resist, but never tried to test it. Thank you Ziqo for confirm it! After I watch that video I wonder if holy resist will help agaist shadow damage.

[@HellsTz]

Lmao the sweat was unreal, such dedication, I love it.

[@Adrian-lc6jq]

this prepwork breakdown was more interesting than the actual tournament

[@milkteaoftheyear]

defeated by blizz spaghetti code earned thousands of respects o7

[@heroofhyrule9778]

learned so much about this game watching you during this tournament bro its been a blast liked and sub

[@mouahahhehehe5563]

Meanwhile Snutz just farming his normal gear set, not asking himself too much questions, and win the tournament by a mile.

[@victorfabro107]

How boring are you? Just blindly picking a side and refusing to acknowledge the fact that this strat was genius and hella funny to listen to. Grow some open mindedness you recluse 😀

[@conzo2166]

I mained a priest in vanilla. People started getting shadow res for raids. Partial was def there. I remember my dot ticks.

[@pedroj3432]

Jesus the amount of prep that went into this is absurd. My hats off to you mate, fantastic job. I'm sorry it didnt work for you, but at the end of the day i still think Snutz played better and deserved the win

[@ZapatosVibes]

Ziqo cheated out of a win by Blizzard's wonky code. What a shame. Damn that was such a good video. Hope to see more of it in the future. That strat coming in clutch in the Finals of a huge duel to the death tournament would have been a moment for the ages. JUSTICE FOR ZIQO!!!!

[@kaliek5281]

So the resist thing is 100% how it worked back in 2004. Back then, abilities took a snapshot when cast/applied. Basically if you had, say +200 SP when you cast a DOT that dot would continue to tick with that spell power even if said buff wore off. Vice versa, if you apply the dot THEN get the buff, the DOTs effect does increase. They changed how DoTs/HoTs worked in like, I wanna say WOTLK (could have even been later), to be dynamic to whatever your current buff/debuff situation is (with their damage/healing scaling dynamically). The same applies for resists, because it checks the resist on application ONCE. If you resist it on application, subsequent ticks an also check against resist. If you fail to resist, subsequent checks will not check against resist because of said snapshot mechanic. It's most noticeable with Fire/Shadow because there really arent many Frost/Arcane/Nature DOTS in the game at that point. Even Druids famous moonfire is arcane, but I guarantee you it's an across the board thing. The main takeaway is: abilities only check snapshots of stats/resists ONCE upon cast/application. That initial cast is the only one that matters to determine how resisted it is, or how much damage/healing it will do. So yeah, this is technically, say it with me now, "Working as Intended."

[@nikoladzhurov1800]

Ye but what about the dot application ressit? Dots should be able to be resisted initially and it should not be only about fear and hard casts.

[@kaliek5281]

@@nikoladzhurov1800 You cant resist the actual application of DoTs (outside of the natural 1%), only the damage. It's always been that way.

[@nikoladzhurov1800]

if that is true that's stupid and should prob custom change that@@kaliek5281

[@Zumzat_]

Well played on the tourney overall, however not checking the mechanics with like a few cheap resist items before going for the full sweat strat/set was a major mistake that might or might not has costed you the top1. Thanks for sharing the experience.

[@MastaGambit]

Everyone talking about how the shadow res should've worked more often vs the DoT app's, and i'm just over here wilding about how Ziqo just boldly admitted to the public that he orchestrated a cross-faction gold-laundering scheme just for a few recipes LMFAO, stay safe dude

[@Ziqoftw]

Swapping gold from horde to ally isn’t breaking any rules of the game!

[@YoHanZack]

Great vid brother, if you can i just wanna see you melee the pet down with that staff and the flask would be great :D

[@-Kailinn-]

I didn't watch the whole tournament but the one thing I knew was that I'd see you in the finals. GG.

[@majorpanek35]

It feels like something changed in the last honor update patch because I have been getting hammer of justice resisted fairly consistently. I duel almost everyday and this has only been happening as of lately.

[@nasniper3554]

Tested it on a private server vs shadow word: pain like you did. I was getting 3 results: 1. You suffer 40 Shadow damage from 's Shadow Word: Pain. (120 resisted) 2. You suffer 80 Shadow damage from 's Shadow Word: Pain. (80 resisted) 3.'s Shadow Word: Pain was resisted.

[@alanlopez6136]

Broo, im there. that's my character. 0:37