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@AerialTheShamen8 ай бұрын
Gradually we come closer to the small flying robot beings from the movie "Batteries Not Included" (those could build and repair everything). The difference between wasps and those drones is that insects also have legs to stabilize their position and possibly even fix flaws in the applied material, so a precise 3D printer drone swarm likely should have additional small arms to be used in a similar way.
@ellsworthm.toohey76578 ай бұрын
Same principle as "When you have a hammer, everything is a nail !". But is it ???
@iamdmc8 ай бұрын
Concrete without rebar... sounds like it should last 2 or 3 years
@sunnylonignacio3218 ай бұрын
If this push thru.. a lot of people will lose their job
@sunnylonignacio3218 ай бұрын
You claim 3d printing in construction is environmentally safe, efficient, and is a business with alot of money. No more scaffoldings , no more wastage, no more heavy equipment, NO MORE HUMANS. I really don't get it why these people are so amazed in machines replacing humans.. ai, human like robots, drones and now these... Evolution means extinction of the latter
@IslandHermit8 ай бұрын
One problem I see with this is that using drones to lift materials requires a lot more energy than using a crane. And once the material is up there, the crane can keep it there with virtually no energy expenditure while the drones need to burn a lot of energy just to stay airborne.
@cython50868 ай бұрын
A concentrated solar array at the site would fix that, just make the initial costs slightly bigger. Still not as much as the extra costs from both time and heavy machinery
@eestaashottentotti22428 ай бұрын
Probably energy expenditure flying those is not a significant cost all expenses accounted. But the crane system would be simpler, faster and less prone to failures. Drones would be maybe better for hard to reach places and fine details.
@VTnumb8 ай бұрын
@@cython5086 No it doesn't. Cranes are still more energy efficient.
@ryanisber23538 ай бұрын
@@cython5086 if we're gonna set up a solar array for the drones then you have to consider doing that for the cranes as well. Either way the cranes would be cheaper and more energy efficient. this is definitely not efficient or enviromentaly more friendly but it does have use cases for MaRs BuIlDiNgS :-/
@realist48598 ай бұрын
That would require extra solar panel production which is also energy intensive. But a solution in the long run for sure. But won't help much short term.
@DeathSugar8 ай бұрын
> even more precise >makes hexagonal cell of 5 sides
@JoeyBlogs0078 ай бұрын
LOL
@arbitraryostrich7 ай бұрын
savage
@pcka127 ай бұрын
Doesn't Hexagon mean '6 sides'? The bees seem better at the job at present.
@DeathSugar7 ай бұрын
@@pcka12 that was exactly the joke part
@pcka127 ай бұрын
@@DeathSugar so 'a pentagon'.
@970357ers8 ай бұрын
Idea: adapt one of those sports stadium cable-suspended cameras as a 3D printer. Would remove the flight/battery issue and have similar benefits plus more stability. Like a giant delta 3D printer.
@Ucceah8 ай бұрын
brilliant! i'm all down for that one. huge delts 3D printer have been dome before, and (unlike this bogus) it's a really promising technology.
@codetech55988 ай бұрын
But drones are cool and trendy.
@mrwayneright8 ай бұрын
Already I thought of several ideas that SOMETHING anchored to something else that would supply SOME rigidity to allow the same drone to work and not interfere. LOTS of different ways this could be attempted like the one you say. AND you could have a persistent electric power line compared to small limited batteries. That is a must-have for construction. Just think how many recharge cycles you might run in a day at say 20 min per run, and maintain cases of batteries.
@KristovMars8 ай бұрын
@@mrwayneright Yep, and the lines running power to the unit can also supply feed-stock. Definitely way more real-world potential than a swarm of inefficient flying blender-bombs. Using tethers and/or suspension cabling might at least allow for cranes that aren't so heavy-duty, reducing some of the wastage mentioned.
@TrentTationnaiseXization8 ай бұрын
Yes
@LuImElPr8 ай бұрын
That sounds like a good Idea. But I'd be rather pessimistic about that. First: a drone can't carry much filiment. Keeping a heavy load in the air is a energy expensive. And only taking small loads but many refill tripps, doesn't really lower the energy consumption. A crane that can hold a load in the air without further energy-input is cheaper then to have to keep putting in energy to remain in the air. Second: you have to upscale the drone quite a bit for large constructions. However larger drones need sturdier heavier materials further adding to energy consumption. Third: weather conditions. Holding a large drone still enough against wind and weather will be rather difficult. So you can only operate at still weather.
@bforbiggy8 ай бұрын
Was thinking the same thing but I thought construction stopped during weather conditions because holding anything against wind is difficult no? Like, I can't imagine swinging steel bars suspended by a crane wire with higher up winds is business as usual
@conorstewart22148 ай бұрын
@@bforbiggy chances are the crane can continue to work on higher wind than a drone can.
@conorstewart22148 ай бұрын
Yeah drones are just inefficient, even if tethered with a pipe for the concrete it is still inefficient. What they currently have for 3D printing building works much better but if they want to go down the route of collaborative robots then ground based robots are best. Something with either legs or wheels that can go round and build up the walls would be better and wouldn't need stabilisation or to worry about the wind.
@marioprawirosudiro73018 ай бұрын
@@conorstewart2214 This might sound unintuitive, but OP's 3rd point about wind is actually the easiest one to manage than his other two points - there aren't that many ways we can get around weight and energy consumption after all. Wind, however, is easier. Now, I'm no civil or robotics engineer, but I'd imagine having an independent wind sensor, something you can put around the site, at some distance away, to "forewarn" the drones, would be rather easy. The sensors can then wirelessly communicate with the drones, after which the drones can prepare - adjust their positions, how much to "lean" in a certain direction, and for how long. Like I said, I'm not an expert in these fields, but if even a layman like me can think of something like what I just described, then I'm sure these engineers can figure it out. The weight and power issues are the bigger problems.
@BoB-Dobbs_leaning-left7 ай бұрын
Classic KZbin comment... "You're wrong.""
@wickedcabinboy8 ай бұрын
Well, those are some rather dramatic predictions. I'll believe it when I see it happening.
@jvon38858 ай бұрын
You won't because it's dumb.
@wickedcabinboy8 ай бұрын
@@jvon3885 - Not the word I'd have used, but I wouldn't argue against it. KZbin influencers have always loved to make big dramatic predictions about new technologies. They rarely come true.
@tantilist14498 ай бұрын
Wind: I'm about to end this mans whole career
@andan22938 ай бұрын
99% of work at height is less risky than driving a car. Minimal chance of some idiot hitting you, redundant safety measures etc.. So not much risking of a life. But interesting technology, I'm surprised how effective it might be.
@martinkrauser40298 ай бұрын
Bullshit. Falls while working at height are the leading cause of workplace fatalities. Everybody and their mother drive a car to work. More people die in traffic accident? Wow. Mind-blowing. This is not in defense of concrete printing, drones or otherwise. It's a terrible way to construct anything. Printed concrete has simply not been proven to remain stable at any scale, let alone high-rise construction.
@retmia8 ай бұрын
Carrying material in the air before depositing it on the structure costs a lot more energy than a crane or a giant printer no ?
@ZirothTech8 ай бұрын
Yea for large construction projects the cranes would probably be worth the hassle for this reason, but for smaller jobs or emergency applications I could imagine these having their uses
@jackinthebox3018 ай бұрын
Sure, but more energy for something that's more flexible and 2 or 3 times faster than the gantry style 3d printing, which is already significantly faster than regular building, is worth the efficiency cost. Electricity is cheap and only going to get cheaper.
@teardowndan53648 ай бұрын
@@ZirothTech What is a "large" project? For a house-sized project, you could likely design a gantry printer that breaks down in about six major components for transport and can be deployed in less than two hours. Once the gantry is up, it can operate for however long you need it to, no charging or reloading breaks. Though printing speed is ultimately limited by how fast previous layers set hard enough to safely support the next layer.
@slozenger90008 ай бұрын
I could see a combination of the two. A Crane lifts the material close to the use point, then the drones zip about applying it over a short distance. You're still making savings as there is a reduction in labour@@ZirothTech
@boomers_pb8 ай бұрын
If the efficiency of the drones and solar cells reaches a certain point, they wouldn't even need to charge, just pick up material and get to work. The efficiency comparison breaks down once we get past energy scarcity.
@artdehls91008 ай бұрын
Somewhere around here I've got a video clip of this guy running alongside a hurdler, filming him. He is holding out in front of him, a chicken wearing a helmet with a small camera on top (the guy, not the runner). The result? Absolutely rock solid footage. Why are we trying to reinvent the wh.. the gimbal when nature has spent millions of years developing the chicken?
@dustinbrueggemann18758 ай бұрын
Because you don't have to feed, water, and wash a plastic robot. A camera gimbal can't feel pain when the operator drops it, nor does it get anxious when strapped to the side of an aircraft.
@Royalti208 ай бұрын
i think he's saying they need to be studying chicken necks with ai algos lol......right?
@mrwayneright8 ай бұрын
it didn't take God a million years to make a chicken. 🙂
@luisostasuc81358 ай бұрын
No, it took roughly 800 million years of animal evolution to get us with a modern chicken, with a tiny chunk of that being human guided evolution
@3DWolfEngineering8 ай бұрын
wow, as a 3dprinting and engineering "enthusiast" i have to say that is absolutely insane and i would love to experiment with that idea myself, thanks for the great insight mate All thought i don't see large use in them due to more energy consumption as some have stated already... i love the concept and already because of how cool and how much of a challenge it is i am absolutely up for testing it once i am able to 😅
@JoeyBlogs0078 ай бұрын
I think it would make more sense for drones to carry pre-fabricated parts that were 3D printed. Thus you make the part large enough for the drone to lift and transport the required distance. I could see that working. Even use the drones to build a structure, using drop in place pre-fabricated parts. However using drones to actually 3D print structures, I think would be too costly. Technically however clearly possible.
@slozenger90008 ай бұрын
May as well use a crane if all you're doing is lifting panels.
@CommentaryTeam18 ай бұрын
In places where cranes can't be cost effectively located, drones might be another option. In the end it comes down to cost and practicality of course.
@conorstewart22148 ай бұрын
@@CommentaryTeam1 in places where you can't get cranes you likely aren't building anything large and chances are you can fit a small crane or forklift in rather than drones.
@CommentaryTeam18 ай бұрын
@@conorstewart2214 Is see it more about process automation and where it's heading. In the future once this drone assisted construction concept evolves sufficiently, I have little doubt it could find a niche in rapid modular construction. Something I'm not sure a crane would be well adapted to. It would hinge on the design structure being modular and optimised for construction via drones, using pre-fabricated components, simply lifted into place by drones at a fairly rapid pace. In the end, it could just come down to cost effectiveness. Modular construction would be easier for drones to adapt to. One off designs less so.
@Spikeba118 ай бұрын
You are overselling the precision; you are comparing to drones when you need to compare to 3D printers. They got a proof of concept and little else.
@redherringoffshoot23417 ай бұрын
both aspects should be covered equally
@comfortablynumb93427 ай бұрын
There's a whole neighborhood going up in Texas that is being 3D printed. Call it what you want, it's more than a concept.
@electrikhan7190Ай бұрын
He mentioned the building code tolerances in the video. 9:23 Just missing scale and purpose really. They could just make crawler bots on the surface of that kind of material and save the propeller. Bring in our new hive mindset.
@justluke.27188 ай бұрын
Bro I’m sorry but the reason 3d printers are so accurate is bc they are grounded and bolted. Yeah this method could maybe be used in some very specific situations like remote areas, but there is so much that goes into this. Just look the accuracy of the model that they built in a lab, now imagine that with wind and possibly rain
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n8 ай бұрын
Using foam to construct buildings has been done for decades. Using a stiff Styrofoam-type (closed-cell extruded polystyrene foam) shell covered in moisture barrier, expanding foam is sprayed or flowed into the center like an ice cream sandwich with common siding and drywall for surface treatment. Inflatable molds can be filled with a dense expanding foam to build non-orthogonal structures. Concrete foam has been used to line tunnels and high volume foam can be used to replace a large portion of a thick (up to 8') non-load bearing slab.
@slozenger90008 ай бұрын
Structurally Insulated Panels or SIPs.
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n8 ай бұрын
@@slozenger9000Pre-fab?
@RTopes8 ай бұрын
Would love to learn more about the systems that would need to be designed to refill these drones as they'll be limited by their payload capacity. In addition, it might be interesting to dive into the orchestration tactics surrounding swapping out batteries or swapping in/out additional drones as ones need to go offline to charge, which I imagine is something that's already prevalent in some factory automation. Also, how the materials might be processed on-site, especially if it involves locally sourced raw materials, could be an interesting to expand upon further. You've peaked my interest! Obviously there's a lot of problems still to solve surrounding a solution like this but it does look promising for specific applications.
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n8 ай бұрын
piqued your interest. stirred or aroused, not maxed out. it got your attention. common mistake but you use the word correctly. and you make a lot of good points, I agree, these are pretty interesting problems to sort out
@TheHDreality7 ай бұрын
I think what I find weird about it is that it requires you build everything out of a setting material, when if you want "houses [built] with incredible speed" we've been able to do that with prefab housing for a century, and if you want "simple shelters within hours" you can ship a pallet of wood and a nail gun and it wouldn't even need to set.
@xl0008 ай бұрын
I like how "Ziroth" totally ignore the filament part of the 3d printing process..... It's the small details like that that set apart a real viable project from something designed by ChaptGPT
@spamuel988 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure 3d printing habitats on mars would work better if the drones just traveled on wheels and used jacks to prop themselves in place to use a robotic arm.
@antonf.92788 ай бұрын
The ingenuity helicopter is absolutely impressive, but there will probably never be much atmospheric flight on Mars.
@squeezyDUB8 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to do a rough calculation of the number of refill needed based on the mass of concrete or even foam used for an average house and the payload of those drones . I think It would quickly moderate those industry transformation claims haha
@azzar.8 ай бұрын
So now the drone just mimicking the hornet building their nest
@hillarious23938 ай бұрын
Dude that is really cool!
@Ucceah8 ай бұрын
it just ain't gonna work. lol
@nicholaidajuan8658 ай бұрын
Modern concrete structures are reinforced with steel as concrete cannot resist tension forces, and consequently these drones will not transform the construction industry. You need to research your topics more thoroughly and talk to real engineers to avoid being called out for producing garbage
@AerialTheShamen8 ай бұрын
Steel is obsolete. Use a spool of carbon fibers.
@user-qr4jf4tv2x8 ай бұрын
bees and wasp are protesting about AI advancement
@freenando757 ай бұрын
a parallel but important discussion is not only the technical way of doing stuff, but the social. so all this makes any sense.. cooperatives and open source software is the thing to promote along side this amazing new technologies
@kathybirkett79868 ай бұрын
fascinating! It has so many applications once they overcome those pesky outside hurdles... regulations and such. 🙂 I only found you recently, but am really enjoying your videos.
@colinfielder66958 ай бұрын
OMG, 2 of my favourite things, now combined ! My mind is blown!
@TenBuckCanuck8 ай бұрын
One thing not mentioned is everything they built looks like a combination of dog poop and a termite mound. Neither of which would appeal as a home...emergecy shelter, of course, but not a home.
@y_us_128 ай бұрын
What's the point of having flying drones. Climbing drones can use an already printed part of the object for orientation in space and as a route for material delivery. Like ants.
@Unmannedair8 ай бұрын
Exactly. The climbing drone makes infinitely more sense. And I would imagine that's why nature preferred that design also.
@AerialTheShamen8 ай бұрын
They should be like wasps with legs to stabilize, move around and smear the concrete if glitches happen.
@Cybertruck10008 ай бұрын
How do you get rigidity into these structures. Are there 3d printing rebar drones. Or..girder drones?
@conorstewart22148 ай бұрын
They don't. These drones and most 3D printed houses are nothing but concrete, no metal reinforcement and all electrical or plumbing work needs done after the structure of the house is built. They also likely need to put extra walls up inside or you will have a bumpy, plain concrete wall with all the wiring and plumbing exposed.
@geemy96757 ай бұрын
I was actually surprised but the trump international hotel in chicago is 1389 ft of concrete, no rebar. but definitely not built with flimsy drones
@Vshamann3367 ай бұрын
This will be amazing for exploration. I could just imagine taking them out to dump batteries to get them very far out in remote areas. And you could get shelters all over the place to be able to access places that other words were ever accessible. I'm thinking some tweaks and you could have them in water and caves as well. Pretty cool. And if you could get the drones made cheap enough, I'm sure you could think of some really cool designs. If you're not worried about losing the drone in the process. Maybe the drone becomes part of the structure.
@11regnartseht7 ай бұрын
As a carpenter, I'm pretty confident I can't be replaced by a robot any time soon. Maybe in 50 or 100 years it would be possible. If you're building out of cinder block or brick maybe 3D printing would be an alternative. Trying to do precise finish work over that extruded mess would be challenging though.
@michaelhiggins91888 ай бұрын
You always find the most fascinating new technologies.
@fergalcoulter8 ай бұрын
I recognise the printed structure featured on the video thumbnail. That was a ceramic vase designed by the Belgian artist Unfold and printed on his gantry printer (a modified BFB 3000 if I recall) in about 2010.
@mas13ish18 ай бұрын
Pretty cool stuff. Would be awesome to see how this gets deployed in the future.
@NirvanaFan50008 ай бұрын
I wonder if it makes sense for the drones to be corded, and cement pumped up to them. This would allow for stronger and continuous drones running, and not needing to land to acquire more material. also wouldn't require drones to carry all the material themselves (though maybe that's less of an issue if the drones are corded). Though coordination of the drones through space would become more important to avoid 'crossing streams'.
@AerialTheShamen8 ай бұрын
I.e. steering a swarm of 3D-printing string puppet robots!
The drone still needs to lift the weight of the cord or pipe and a pipe filled with concrete is heavy. A robot that crawls or walks along the top of the wall would be better.
@NirvanaFan50008 ай бұрын
@@conorstewart2214 good call
@Neuralatrophy8 ай бұрын
Considering for larger projects, a single pass with a single small drone will have an absolutely tiny impact on the final product. Any errors on that drones part are going to be negligible especially if the swarm is able to detect errors and take action to correct them like a drone with a clogged nozzle or kinematic errors popping off for maintenance etc and another taking its place.
@sebtessier50238 ай бұрын
The hammer is still in use because ''the less moving parts, the less issues there can be'' i'm pretty sure this would be a nightmare operation to deal with. The number of failed print possible is huge and we are talking structural integrity.
@Neuralatrophy8 ай бұрын
@@sebtessier5023 Unless you leverage AI to manage the drones, detect and correct issues in real time. You can drive a single nail into the wrong location and still build a perfectly fine house.
@sebtessier50238 ай бұрын
@@Neuralatrophy wouldn't it be absolue atrocious tu try an manually control a swarm of hundreds of drone manually? I am pretty sure we would need an AI. Still have to clean hundreds of nuzzle after, find replace batteries frequently, tiny repairs for every thing and that is without mentionning the noise for the Neighbors. I am pretty sure it would get banned in large city
@JoeyBlogs0078 ай бұрын
Impressive, however cant see them having a major impact. Drones can only lift so much weight.
@jonp80157 ай бұрын
I'm more interested in learning more about the printer at 0:43. I had theorized that a printer with an angled head could be interesting, but this is making some *massive* bridging lines look easy. I'm most curious what material it's using, because I don't think concrete works that way.
@ThisIsToolman8 ай бұрын
I was hoping for a detailed review of the delta-gimbal construction. I remember seeing one of the first delta robots 30 years ago. I knew then that there would be future applications. This one is extraordinary.
@KaletheQuick8 ай бұрын
ITT automated assembly, so like premade wall sections and other modular sections, combined with in-situ 3D printing, will be the real game changer.
@luisostasuc81358 ай бұрын
Yeah, this could definitely be part of a solid toolkit. I wouldn't bank on it as an all-in-one thing for large projects anytime soon. This and small robots for tight electrical work.
@luisostasuc81358 ай бұрын
A great thing to try and combine this with is wireless power transmission. It would have a lot of kinks to work out between the lab and the real world of course, but it would increase the size and carry capacity of the drones.
@xander94608 ай бұрын
How about ant like drones. That can work together to from different shapes/constructions/machines. Just like a group of ants can form a bridge. How about a group of walking drones that form a crane that holds a hose that prints. Far more stable, stronger, flexible, exact. Flying drones are at the mercy of wind. And wind can't really be controlled. And building needs millimeter exact control. Especially with modern Ai it will be easy to control a swarm of builder ants.
@AerialTheShamen8 ай бұрын
The flying drones would need additional legs(robot arms) like wasps to stabilize for precise work and knead the applied concrete into shape.
@dannymac6538 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see where this goes over the next decade.
@marcfruchtman94738 ай бұрын
Wow... I think this an amazing technology. I think it is a bit early to jump to the idea that this will replace cranes since drone carry capacities are low, but for some things where there aren't a lot of viable options except to fly and 3D print on site, yea... this make sense.
@AuntJemimaGames8 ай бұрын
I think this will prove more useful for aesthetic repairs in hard-to-reach places. I'm not sure the strength or layer adhesion of material deposited like this will meet the regulations required for any kind of load-bearing structural elements.
@conorstewart22148 ай бұрын
Yeah this will be better used for other things than building the walls. The walls are built on the ground so why not use ground based robots? Drones may be good for spraying insulation or paint though.
@petereriksson71667 ай бұрын
I hope to see this being developed by big and strong companies in my country also.
@jaimeortega49408 ай бұрын
Drones probably at least in the States couldn't get any city code approval. They would have to conduct their building experiments out in the countryside first say West Texas, where no such building codes exist. In Europe I would imagine it would even be more difficult. Now I hear there is a 3D house printing company in Austin TX that is a hybrid system using giant Vulcan 3D house printers that does meet code. This because it is also using humans and typical building processes, but it would be interesting to know which codes the 3D house printers are passing what they actually allowed to print. I would guestimate - not much.
@0005yuki8 ай бұрын
do they sting and hunt me down like normal wasps?
@ABC-rh7zc8 ай бұрын
that could be arranged
@MediaCreators8 ай бұрын
Hahaha... and here I thought the hyperloop was already the most ridiculous idea.
@jessebergeron5786 ай бұрын
i think that if they would interlock it would create redundancy and make them way most stable. adding an adjustable refill station that could postion itself along the flight path would allow then to refill on route.
@hmt09397 ай бұрын
Hi, The wasps and bees do not build their hives while flying, they use thir legs for stability. What about just mounting necessary structures by drones? Pre-planned small structure parts brought together, and self-mounted by a plan?
@vaakdemandante87728 ай бұрын
This will NOT replace any current technologies used for building the usual stuff. We do it much more efficient than some flying drones. What this CAN be used for is for building stuff we did not even know we could build up until now - some small remote structures that would require way too much effort to haul a big crane up on a mountain or something like that. This is NEW technology for completely NOVEL kind of builds.
@handlaidtracksand3dprinted9227 ай бұрын
3D printing is still an emerging and amazing technology. My home printer clearly has 0.05mm or less accuracy when making test pieces. With a 2mm part being too tight, make it just 1.95mm and it fits great! SpaceX and many other rockets use various metal printers now too.
@Raptorman09098 ай бұрын
Sorry, drones will NOT be a major player in construction -- the power and energy required to keep them aloft and the cost for doing so makes ZERO sense. Also, the positioning accuracy will be dreadful so unless you want a home that looks like it was constructed by ants on acid you are going to look elsewhere. Gantry cranes with external positioning using lasers will be vastly more precise and much cheaper and faster. Seriously, how in he!! do these ideas crop up and how are we to take seriously the people that push it?
@Unmannedair8 ай бұрын
Gantries are out. You're going to see 3D printers that climb the structure they're printing... Like a termite.
@Raptorman09098 ай бұрын
@@Unmannedair If the structure is tall a self climbing printer makes sense, but since most structures being bult using printers are one or two stories tall a gantry style is just fine. The real point is that drones are NOT practical and will be of limited use.
@jonphaz8 ай бұрын
You know that doesn’t mean it’s impossible
@Raptorman09098 ай бұрын
@@jonphaz Please, I've owned and operated drones since 2015, I know a thing or two about them. I've worked in the USAF and know a thing or two about what is and what is not viable. The drone would either need a large hopper to hold the material and that will be heavy, a drone required to lift that kind of mass will be HUGE, and NOISY. And even then the hopper will not be large enough to last very long. So, you would need to have a hose or other means to constantly feed material to it and if you're going to do that you might as well use a superior ground based system like a gantry crane mentioned before. And, as I've also mentioned before the positioning accuracy of a drone is dreadful and any wall constructed would look like an any colony on acid made it. My guess is a grifter is looking for money from a VC operation and will milk it until they can't.
@boxlessthinker19738 ай бұрын
Very well explained. Sounds like it needs to be proven feasible next at scale.
@RobertA-hq3vz8 ай бұрын
You can't build large structures without steel or wood reinforcement. Drones only carry a small amount of material at a time, are way too slow for building construction (even with a thousand of them), and once the battery is flat will take a long time to recharge, and they'll be flat in 10 minutes.. You're wasting your time here. It seems like a cool idea but its totally impractical.
@randyschoenbeck36308 ай бұрын
They are using drones to spray crops already they just land the drone and swap battery pack and re fill it ( you would need a support staff to maintain the drone as it builds )
@Unmannedair8 ай бұрын
@@randyschoenbeck3630 yeah, that's true, and I've seen tether drones that can stay in the air indefinitely. It's still incredibly inefficient and imprecise. Not to mention the construction materials are... Well let's just be nice and say there's a lot to be desired. 😂
@RobertA-hq3vz8 ай бұрын
@@randyschoenbeck3630 There's a big difference between spraying trees and making a building. Buildings need iron re-enforced concrete and a strong structure to build on. The drones aren't going to be weaving in and out of meshed metal frame to deposit concrete at the right spot. And concrete is damn heavy, so you're not going to be able to deposit more than a bricks worth at any one time before needing to refill its reservoir., and most likely recharge. Spraying involves depositing small amounts of liquid in the general vicinity of the target location. Its not the same at all. This entire notion that you could build a structure with flying drones, efficiently, is ridiculous and anyone with a practical mind will see that. The problem with youtubers that report this nonsense is that they lack a critical mind and don't see the pitfalls that make a particular idea worthless.
@RobertA-hq3vz8 ай бұрын
@@just_saw_dust Sorry, I misunderstood your previous point. I thought you meant that because there were spraying drones then concreter drones are also possible. Which is not what you meant at all. My mistake.
@gerryjamesedwards12278 ай бұрын
It will be interesting in conjunction with the advances in synthetic spider-silk.
@kal90018 ай бұрын
Drones hovering seems to be a limiting factor. What about a drone 'printer' that works like a Delta printer, where the print head can extend below any of the supports. Doing that the drone can land on the structure, build up a section, take off and refill material and recharge. If the construction done was quite large, it could even have smaller drones delivering materials. I like the idea of smaller drones being able to replace a battery on a large drone, or dock and transfer power?
@LaughingGravy.018 ай бұрын
I think printing buildings is unquestionably the most environmentally benign method of building, especially if a proportion of the matirial used comes directly from the construction site. It will become ubiquitous soon enough. Using drones to do this, however will remain a niche option simply by dint of the weight of the materials used. Scaled up, the drones illustating the principle would be helicopters! Brilliant channel...thanks!
@wannahit93578 ай бұрын
Really cool idea. And I have drones and 3D printers and love them both. Problem here it's going to be power to weight ratio. Construction materials are very heavy, drones have limited carrying capacity. Anything that can build buildings or lift girders or eye beams is going to be massive, and cost way more then Caterpillar or a simple crane. We'll have to see where the future takes us. But i don't see drones doing this for a long long time..
@conorstewart22148 ай бұрын
Yeah drones aren't suitable for this really. Ground based robots or gantries would work much more efficiently. Maybe even something that crawls along the wall and poops out concrete behind itself would work. Also it is "I beams" not "eye beams", they are named because of their shape, it is the shape of a capital i, similarly they can also be called "H beams" again because of the shape.
@xfreshmeat8 ай бұрын
Many problems with drones have aleady been pointed out: precision under wind gust, weight load, fuel efficiency. In addition, drones would be most helpful for high-rise building construction, but the 3D printed materials would likely not have the required tensile strength where steel beams are normally used.
@Unmannedair8 ай бұрын
Yeah, this night be nice for some weird niche items, but this is totally nuts and not going to happen. 😅 Also, the BS about it being green is complete hogwash. You scale any of that stuff up to the size of a building and you've got an absolutely staggering energy consumption. And you're going to be burning through lithium batteries like you wouldn't believe. Each of those batteries has so many power cycles before it has to be recycled... If it gets recycled. And the power to charge those batteries has to come from somewhere, and the rate of discharge on the batteries means you're only getting 50% of that out as actual flight ready work. Now you could eliminate some of these issues by using a tethered system, and I've seen that work. But the idea of flight stabilized 3D printing supplanting a 3D printer that can climb the structure that it's printing... Some things are just a bad idea. If 3D printers are going to do what you would like to do in terms of mass scale manufacturing, then those printers will have more in common with a termite then with a mud dauber wasp.
@mrwayneright8 ай бұрын
Part of me wants to keyboard-jockey about all the unsolved problems we have here, or propose my own solutions. But I AM NOT the one programing the drones and doing the research. THEY are. There are other reasonable posts here. So I wish them well and to accomplish actionable solutions before they run out of research money. Thanks for the story, Ziroth.
@erikviens91368 ай бұрын
Would love your thoughts on ocean wave/kinetic energy capture... Exciting field no one's ever really gone after BIG.... Cheers- love your work!
@BrokenOpalVideos8 ай бұрын
“astonishing speed and precision!” *show what looks like a playdoh creation from a 6 year old*
@mbs75672 ай бұрын
I’m a drone guy, but why not apply the materials by integrating the control arms to a concrete pump type truck. Drive the truck up, set up, start bringing materials to the “truck” and get it done.
@startrekstarfleetlcars447798 ай бұрын
this was a really interesting & beautiful vide. - T.Y.V.M. - Thank You Very Much
@JoseTorres-ry9qe5 ай бұрын
can these gymbals be used to be accurate with sniper rifles? asking for Anduril.
@emjizone8 ай бұрын
The genius of this is it let build big prints.
@donald17928 ай бұрын
this is such a bad idea I didn't even want to finish watching the video but I did
@jfkastner8 ай бұрын
We still need Cranes - Buildings weigh hundreds of tons, lifting all that via Drone will be taking more Time than with a single Crane. Awesome Video.
@SixTough8 ай бұрын
This is so dumb that it's double jeopardy: I love it ❤
@alsojuja7 ай бұрын
Some lines of the video made me think "what could go wrong?"... "...when, not if, drone swarms venture outdoors into real life..." "...working on replenishment systems for materials and batteries..." "...autonomous drones 3d-printing a house doesn't seem all that far-fetched..." I'm picturing drone swarms venturing outdoors under the control of autonomous scandrones, occasionally replenishing themselves so they can build... more drones.
@lucbloom8 ай бұрын
Factorio becoming real
@loiskimberleyplayer8 ай бұрын
Love how useful this could be in crisis situations!
@DozenDeuce7 ай бұрын
I, for one, definitely want to live in a house that looks like a pile of bird droppings.
@Zenocided8 ай бұрын
Let's check the number of problems with the idea: Likely needs a fleet of drones to practically make anything of usable size. Drones need reload time. Recharge time. Near zero windspeeds for 3d printing to be remotely accurate. So this construction method is. Slower, more expensive and would only be useful in building structures unreachable or in impractical places. Biomimicry is a great idea when used practically, not when you randomly apply it to drones.
@rooftecbainbridge7 ай бұрын
We're a roofing company that also builds drones and robots via 3D printing. What @Islandhermit said is correct. The energy it takes to lift material is far more significant than the existing methods. 3D printing is still exceptionally unreliable. Clogged nozzles, faulty temperature sensors, maintenance of tensioner belts, humidity control of filaments... Printing on a stable platform in a controlled environment is still hard. Adding drones and integrating all of that into electrical, plumbing, all within code, in all weather..... guys..... guys.... if there's one company that would be all for it its us and we're probably a couple centuries away from doing it this way. Tech likes to think they can solve everything but just remember... Elon Musk succeeded at space travel before he succeeded in roofing.
@lucbloom8 ай бұрын
How about a crane-hoisted platform with material, and then have hoses running down to supply a fleet of drones? They would have limited maneuverability, but that would outweigh the time & energy spent picking up stuff.
@rassabossa45548 ай бұрын
It seems to me that a single arm concrete printer would be preferable in the areas where a gantry system is not feasible. If produced on the tens of 1000s, maybe the cost of this construction would be economically doable. Personally, I like the smooth curved lines of these buildings. Would it be more feasible if the system extruded foam and then coated it in some sort of reinforced shotcrete?
@conorstewart22148 ай бұрын
I think I have seen printers like that already. The term for robots like that is "cylindrical robot", which is named quite obviously because its range of motion is a cylinder (well really a hollow cylinder like a tube, where the robot itself goes).
@PrivateForPersonalReasons8 ай бұрын
everyone gangsta until the wind comes in
@loiskimberleyplayer8 ай бұрын
This is awesome!! Worker wasps 🐝
@simoncaron64247 ай бұрын
I could imagine hundred of these working like bees.
@chrislong39388 ай бұрын
I can see this stuff happening in less than 10 years easily. I can also see it going far beyond what is predicted here. I don't think skyscrapers will be 3D printed with drones, but with large gantries and other types of cranes, who knows though! Really large tethered drones with constant power might be easy enough to make work, especially if they start using those toroidal propellers that provide more lift and are far less noisy.
@guillaumemartin88643 ай бұрын
Je ne crois pas du tout que des drônes puissent imprimer en 3d un bâtiment car cela représente des centaines de tonnes de béton ( mortier), cependant imprimer des bâtiments avec des murs ( voiles) avec une structure en nid d abeilles est une bonne idée pour rendre les murs plus résistants à la compression, cependant il faudra toujours avoir une épaisseur d alvéoles suffisantes: les voiles ( murs ) conventionnels font en général 16 cm d épaisseur, mais en imprimant en 3d ( avec une imprimante 3d ) font environ 5 à 6 cm d épaisseur ( avec 2 ou 3 murs parallèles, donc faire un mur avec plusieurs alvéoles hexagonales d environ 4 à 5 cm d épaisseur pourrait être pertinent pour augmenter la résistance des murs ( comme cela a fait pour des bâtiments imprimés en 3d avec de la terre argileuse : construits avec des formes sinusoïdale se chevauchant). Donc d après moi les nids d abeilles sont une bonne idée, mais cela demandera sûrement plusieurs essais pour avoir une technique au point.
@hamishbiggs7 ай бұрын
Why not use a tethered drone with a power cable and material feed pipe/tube. The extra weight of these would be offset by not having to carry batteries and product. There would be no refilling and battery swaps, so it could run indefinitely. You could also have an autonomous ground robot/tanker vehicle for larger construction jobs and to minimise cable/tube lengths.
@alphahurricane79578 ай бұрын
Aerial AM or AAM * aggressive E̸̯͠E̶̡͗E̷̯͊E̷͋ͅĔ̷̺Ę̶̒E̵̛͚Ë̶̥́Ȇ̸̝Ĕ̵̥E̷͔̊ seeker noises
@Ucceah8 ай бұрын
as cool and futuristic as this looks in theory, physics really gets in the way of things. this is yet another hyperloop or solar roadways kind of a really idiotic idea, fluffed up to sound like the ultimate game changer. building materials are HEAVY, and quadcopters are agonsingly inefficient at suspending loads, compared to something as simple as a crane, that uses zero energy to hold up a weight in place. and at the point of 3D printing habitats on mars, it entirely slid off into runny bullshit. mars' athmosphere is about 100 times less dense, than ours. making flight incredibly inefficient.
@hackfleisch74248 ай бұрын
You don't even have to run the numbers to get how idiotic this idea is. The consumption of lithium batteries with a short lifespan (due to the very high performance requirements) alone would be a disaster. There are good reasons why construction from prefabricated structural elements elements already has a large market share while 3D printed buildings failed to gain significant traction.
@isaacmurray84908 ай бұрын
Hold on- hold on… hear me out… what if… “3D printed drones that 3D print”?
@intellectualcat40008 ай бұрын
The delivery of construction materials by air using drones or airships is interesting. But it's ridiculous to build without relying on a building.
@npsit18 ай бұрын
There may be potential applications, but they're going to be severely limited in usefulness. Mostly because of payload capacity and environmental conditions. You also still need someone to control what they're building. We don't randomly build stuff without engineering it first - mostly because we need a structure that has a purpose and it useful to us. We can't live in a wasp nest or a beehive.
@Creepyslandofdreams8 ай бұрын
Gantrys are definitely a more doable method for now, they are definitely more emervu efficient, but this has alot of applications in emergency situations and spafe travel
@conorstewart22148 ай бұрын
There is no reason gantries can't be used in emergencies or in space travel too. Drones aren't very efficient. One thing you will likely lack in space travel or in emergencies on Earth is power so you want an efficient solution.
@Creepyslandofdreams8 ай бұрын
@conorstewart2214 I agree, but the biggest issue with gantrys for emergencies is that you dont know the situation you're going into. In unideal conditions, you're gonna need a huge gantry. For space travel, the energy efficiency of gantrys makes them a more permanent solution, but you want to reduce weight as much as possible when you launch a rocket, so in some situations drones might be a good idea. I could see drones being designed to prepare (or repair) hard to reach infrastructure, like the equipment that produces filament for a gantry, the gantry itself, or the higher points on lander craft. Though on low atmosphere bodies though drones are basically usless, same for overly windy ones.
@TheSateef8 ай бұрын
looks like the biggest thing you could print with this is a hamster cage
@maxthehuman0048 ай бұрын
Yeah, very efficient, very genius
@bartspeet9308 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the cute robot-aliens of 'Batteries Not Included'. Build, build, build.
@lucasdeaver91928 ай бұрын
3-D printed houses only print the walls. The foundation, roof, windows, doors, insulation, wiring, plumbing etc are all still done manually.
@codetech55988 ай бұрын
Exactly. And putting up the walls and roof of a truss-based metal building can be done quickly by a small crew.
@playframe62318 ай бұрын
as this tech advances, the drones will probably have smaller extra rotors for stabilizing
@duffgaryduff8 ай бұрын
To be really efficient, and to more closely follow nature, the drones need to land, thus not wasting fliying energy, and then deposit a part of the structure before flying off and collecting more material, or moving to another area on the structure. This is the way.
@willcabamba82628 ай бұрын
Have two drones stacked ( sort of ) the top drone could hold the material the lower drone printing.